vava

Agreed on Massive Attack's uniqueness - from album to album, you witness evolution and a desire to develop... there's very little filler material on Massive Attacks albums (on the most part, that is). That brings me to a point I made in another thread a while ago - the album (or CD/DVD now) has gone the way of the dodo. It's extinct. The music industry has allowed itself to degenrate to 'track-based' artists and revenues. Entire CDs are sold by the millions on the popularity of one track. Some of the fault could of course, be attributed to video, but in any case... If this is the new paradigm, then the industry has to establish a new way of merchandising and marketing music/artists. It's become clear that the music buying public are simply not interested in an entire CD full of trash for one tune. Initiatives like Apple's Music store - where individual tunes sell for 99c are a welcome change. Let's hope that the industry will wake up - and instead of concentrating on pushing us the same old cookie-cutter ClearChannel garbage, and spending loads on anti-piracy, they should look into giving the public what they crave: good quality music, through convenient channels at accessible prices.

Yes. but first days of school really suck when your name's different.

My sympathies again, for the loss of your mom - but recollections like this honour the memory of their lives. Truly interesting about the books/library. I'm sure you have some fascinating reading material at your place...

touché I guess I have a problem with my short term memory....I even commented (quite pessimistcally i might add) on the previous thread.

Well, no one told me!?!

DOH! Sorry - i just realised you meant the oriental stuff.... (yes, i,m a knuckle head)

Chilies, plenty of lemon, and veggie broth?

I just received this, and although I haven't any mention of it anywhere else apart from this press release, I think it's great news. No more ambiguous terms like 'alleged', 'contorversial' etc. No more, 'tragedy', or 'atrocity' but Genocide. It's about time... One may wonder why some place so much importance on a word. It's only a word, after all. But in this case, using the appropriate term, I think, it's a step forwards in the struggle to achieve worldwide, unanimous recognition of an horrific event that has marked us and in many ways defined our cultural identity...

OK, I merged the new topic with the old one... sorry for the double posting! - vava ---------------------- Original Post International Association of Genocide Scholars Robert Melson, President Department of Political Science, Purdue University West Lafayette, IN 47907 NEW YORK TIMES CHANGES POLICY ON ARMENIAN GENOCIDE The New York Times has recently revised its guidelines for editors regarding the Armenian genocide. The new policy notes, `After careful study of scholarly definitions of `genocide,' we have decided to accept the term in references to the Turks' mass destruction of Armenians in and around 1915.' The guidelines continue, `The expression `Armenian genocide' may be used freely and should not be qualified with phrasing like `what Armenians call,' etc.' The Times' new guidelines state that: `By most historical accounts, the Ottoman empire killed more than one million Armenians in a campaign of death and mass deportation aimed at eliminating the Armenian population throughout what is now Turkey.' The memo notes, `While we may of course report Turkish denials on those occasions when they are relevant, we should not couple them with the historians' findings, as if they had equal weight.' - end - For more information contact: Peter Balakian Robert Melson or Samantha Power ------------------------------------------------------------- The New York Times Company: The New York Times Company is a leading media company with 2003 revenues of $3.2 billion, publishes The New York Times, The International Herald Tribune, The Boston Globe and 16 other newspapers; owns eight network-affiliated television stations and two New York radio stations; and has more than 40 Web sites, including NYTimes.com and Boston.com . In 2004 the Company was ranked No. 1 in the publishing industry in Fortune's list of "America's Most Admired Companies," for the fourth consecutive year. Over the years, The Times Company's properties have been awarded many journalism awards, including a total of 111 Pulitzer Prizes, more than any other news organization. The Company's core purpose is to enhance society by creating, collecting and distributing high-quality news, information and entertainment. The New York Times Company is listed on the New York Stock Exchange under the symbol NYT. Source: The New York Times Company Website

yes yes yes.... reggae got soul, my friend.

Dub is great! It's a type of 're-mixed' reggae with lots of bass and reverb essentially. It dates from the 70's, but has seen over the past few years a sort of short lived re-birth. although I hardly think it's 'hip' anymore. I like it though. Look for artists like the Mad Professor, Prince Jammy, Scientist, etc. Often they'll take an old reggae mainstays like Yellowmanor Gregory Isaacs, and re-mix/master his tunes in a dub style. Artists like Lee 'Scratch' Perry, and King Tubby are some of my favourites as well...

SomaFM is great. I've been a listener for years now (except when the RIAA took them off the air ) They also have a good mix of Indie music amongst their channels. Expat, I agree that just about any form of noise can qualify as music. If you've spent any time going to places like the Knitting Factory, listening to the likes of John Zorn, Fred Frithe, etc. any collection of noises/sounds can be considered music. The difference, I think, is that house music ha become very standard - there's not much innovation in house, and there hasn't been in a long while. There are many sub-genres, yes, and that provides a certain variety, but on the whole, house tends to sound well, pretty much the same... I'm still open to it, and I do listen to some house/electronic music in general... but less and less.

I used to listen to a lot more electronic music... it seems I've had my fill (not that I don't listen anymore, it's just that it's become a little bit stagnant) With breakbeats I preferred the slightly slower tempos with a clear Raggae influence. Jungle, I think, they used to call it here. (?) I was never really up to date on all th terms and sub-genres. Personally I'd rather listen to dub, and as far as dancing goes, I hardly ever go to dance clubs anymore... and as far as Hi-NRG, well I just can't stand it.

If by 'chill out' you mean 'drug insduced stupour' than you're right. But I'd point out that almost any downtempo music would suffice...

So what's a WU?

Thanks Domino - will install this evening.

Welcome Emil, that's quite the avatar. I hope you enjoy your stay...

House is already very mainstream. I always found it a form of 'non-music' in the sense that the actual musical content (apart from the rhythms) is quite sparse. Nevertheless...

Oh of course, I know that. I was just reminiscing a wee bit. My chasing days have been long gone...

Azeris, despite years of trying to do the same, have not been credible in their efforts - at least not from a world perspective. Unless they've changed their tactics, I suspect they won't get very far at PACE either. Nevertheless the situation bears the need for the ROA to further develop and continue an appropriate information campaign with the aim of dispelling the mistruths that result.

There's a wealth of knowledge here. If it exists, I'm pretty confident that someone here knows about it. We'll see....

I'm not a big fan of the Sony models. You're stuck using their proprietary memory, and the menu interface/usability isn't nearly as ergonomic as the Canons. I love the digital Rebel BTW, I've been using one from work and it works witha my EOS lenses.

Interesting idea Domino! I found this info on the site - as we discussed in the SETI thread, it's a collective computing initiative. I wonder how effective collective computing is? Sip?

Sorry, this is the first I hear of it - welcome BTW.

Wow Eve! You dance too? Is there anything you don't do? Salsa's a great way for people to meet up BTW. I hope that the now forgotten art of dance will one day soon experience some sort of renaissance. I'm referring to the kind where two people dance together as a couple... it's quite romantic, challenging (you have at least try to look graceful) and it's really fun! Of course with dances like Salsa, the friendly women here must get over the 'chauvanistic' nature of the dance. (The male leads, you see.) The chase, the chase! Of course it's the chase! A stable (and fruitful) relationship is very nice, but there's nothing more exciting than the unpredictability and passion during the chase. IMHO. I think you're right.