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Thank for the post. Very interesting. Artusian

Arpa, I am sorry you are right. I did not mean bad, I see what you mean. The doctor is a joke. A real joke Sorry, my last post on the thread here

The whole idea was to reveal the character of the individual doctor. I thought that would be interest to people, I am surprised to see the reactions . Why is there a fight shouldn't we talk about this

NO comment I am sure you write perfect Swedish. So is it a problem for you

NO comment, I do not understand. I am French speaker and I write in French, is this a problem. I do not understand. Again why do you defend that doctor and his statement, I do not understand, please explain why

Please do not hide the thread. The thread is meant to reveal the nature of the individual, the doctor. Important to know. If you wish we discuss other topics in other area but please not hide.

Thanks Ashot jan for continuing here

Ashot jan, please continue your talk here, as I can learn and then all we can find out the way of mind of the man like that doctor. It is very important. Please continue here do not separate it. I like your arguments on this topic and thread. Thanks Artusian

Dear Anahid, thank a lot. My only intention was to bring out the problems of this man, who has lots hate in his post. I only want to say that his behavior is really dangerous, for all Armenians, the way he talks is terrible It is surprising that he even dares to say openly with his name That is arrogance. I want to show the problem the man cause Artusian

Ashot Very interesting. Thanks for shwoing us Artusian

Avo, you are right. The problem and question is that we need to be aware of the people like him.

There are radicals from hsi side who are like that. You are right

I post what Ariel Barkan said again: Read his message yourself: (Armenian Tale of Turkish Genocide Simply Untrue I am an Israeli Jew, originally from the former Soviet Union, and have no dog in the Turkish-Armenian fight. Nevertheless, the history of Armenian-Turkish relations is a difficult and complex one, and Jonathan Tobin did it a disservice when he wrote to support the Armenian claim of genocide (A Matter of Opinion: "Choosing Allies Over Principles," April 26). During World War I, the nationalist Armenian movement was egged on by Czarist Russia to revolt against the Turks. This was designed to protect the flank of the Russian Empire from an attack by Germany's ally Turkey. The Armenians obliged and unleashed an unprecedented terrorist campaign against ethnic Turks that resulted in the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians. The Ottoman Turks ordered the Armenians ousted from the affected areas. In the process, many were killed by the Kurdish gangs, many died of infections and starvation -- although it should be stated that Turks were dying like flies as well, and from the same causes. But there was no genocide, because of the lack of intent or organized action on the part of the Turkish government to exterminate Armenians as such. The "ethnic cleansing" was limited to Eastern Anatolia. No Armenian in Istanbul was expelled or harmed. The Armenians want to preserve the status of victims, not unlike the Palestinians. For years, Armenian terrorists killed Turks all over Europe, sent letter bombs, and set explosives in Turkish cultural centers. Ariel Barkan, M.D. Ann Arbor, Mich. ) from this site http://www.jewishexponent.com/article/13003/ THis is outrageous and cannot be ignore. THis is the problem. IMagine if an Armenian posts like this about Jews, he has many problems. How does he dare

Thanks Ashot for sharing

The link about him: http://www2.med.umich.edu/departments/endo...rnal%20Medicine http://www.appointmentnet.com/view_doctor/...rkan/index.html http://www.med.umich.edu/intmed/annualrepo...honorarysoc.htm

That was not my purpose. I only want to point out the bad behaviour of this individual, that is nothing with his religion and background. This can not be tolearted

The problem is if you say you have problems. Sure both happened, but one can not say only they suffer, Armenians suffered even more. You have a very good point here. My statement was not to refer to his background but only to point the problem of his individual opionion

You have a very good point, but what if he connected to thos people? It could well be

Ashot , Thanks for your reply. My only concern was that his hate message was too much to be ignore. I am happy that you have your medic friends who will be informed. Artusian

Arpa You are absolutely correct. I dont know him. We need to stop him and his danegrous thoughts. That is why I post his crazy and hate post here. Such a hate post by him is really crazy Artusian

Arpa, Well said. The problem if ignoring man is that he is in a powerful position, he is a medical doctor. Let put it this way, if he was nobody, we could ignored him, but he can influence people, and that is very dangerous. Second he signs that outrageous post by his real name and his MD title!!! That is evident that he feels secure and power. Such a thing he says is discrimination, racism and defaming. We need to make an officila complaint . Contactring him does not make sense, if someone posts such a contempting message, he has a racist. Help to inform as many Armenians as possible. Help to spread the word on different forums. Someone need to stop his racism. Imagine if someone writes some thing about his people in the America he will be punished Contacting him does not make sense, but complaining yes, first many need informed about this statement artusian

Ashot He is an Israeli Jew as he says himself. His name is real so his medical information and job. The question is what this man is doing. This is very dangerous that a man in that position spreads such hate. As a medical doctor/medic he should love people and respect them. One wonder what he does to his Armenian patients. It is outrageous. He has a dog in the fight. The question is why and what? Read his hateful message, this is unbearavle. Artusian

Excellent source. Thank you for sharing. Artusian

Happy new year to all members. I am going to share a very important news with the members here as well as I think that is very important to know. This is troubling to read that Armenian genocide is denied by some people. It is very disturbing to read that it is denied by some high profile people like doctors! This cannot be accepted. I came across a site where a medical doctor named Ariel Barkan, denies it in a very harsh way. This was so disturbing that I chose to share this with members of this forum. Read his message yourself: (Armenian Tale of Turkish Genocide Simply Untrue I am an Israeli Jew, originally from the former Soviet Union, and have no dog in the Turkish-Armenian fight. Nevertheless, the history of Armenian-Turkish relations is a difficult and complex one, and Jonathan Tobin did it a disservice when he wrote to support the Armenian claim of genocide (A Matter of Opinion: "Choosing Allies Over Principles," April 26). During World War I, the nationalist Armenian movement was egged on by Czarist Russia to revolt against the Turks. This was designed to protect the flank of the Russian Empire from an attack by Germany's ally Turkey. The Armenians obliged and unleashed an unprecedented terrorist campaign against ethnic Turks that resulted in the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians. The Ottoman Turks ordered the Armenians ousted from the affected areas. In the process, many were killed by the Kurdish gangs, many died of infections and starvation -- although it should be stated that Turks were dying like flies as well, and from the same causes. But there was no genocide, because of the lack of intent or organized action on the part of the Turkish government to exterminate Armenians as such. The "ethnic cleansing" was limited to Eastern Anatolia. No Armenian in Istanbul was expelled or harmed. The Armenians want to preserve the status of victims, not unlike the Palestinians. For years, Armenian terrorists killed Turks all over Europe, sent letter bombs, and set explosives in Turkish cultural centers. Ariel Barkan, M.D. Ann Arbor, Mich. ) from this site http://www.jewishexponent.com/article/13003/ After googling his name, I found that this man is a highly profiled doctor and this makes it even more disturbing: http://www2.med.umich.edu/department...nal%20Medicine How can an educated man deny the Armenian genocide? Read his message and you will find more about him. We need to find more people like this man who as highly-profiled people can do lot of damage to the Armenian cause. This is very outrageous. His speech on medical issue, obviously an educated man. http://endocrinefellows.org/new_medi...deo_frame.html Artusian