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I ask you to consider or reconsider this appeal More and more actions against the armenian are taken in Europe with a new aspect, citizens with turkish background are taking places into democratics institutions to spread the denial of the genocide The same day (29 jan 2008) when the memorial in Cardiff was destroy an anti armenian campaign began after an article in a french newspaper. The mayor Jean Paul Bret of Villeurbanne running for municipal elections did ask an elected member Sirman Oran with turkish background (who want to run in his own list) about her position concerning the genocide of the armenians, he wanted a clear answer.. She was offended by this so called racistic attitud of the mayor, mayor who by the way is deeply engage in the armenian issue, pretending that she did recognize genocide What the article didn´t say, and what the detractors didn´t want afterward to consider, is that she was the 18 of mars 2006 marching in an anti-armenian demonstration in Lyon against the edification of an armenian memorial. the 18 mars 2006 in the town Lyon http://www.armenews.com/IMG/IMG_3478_640x480_-480x321.jpg "genocide did never exist" http://77.img.v4.skyrock.com/775/nors2decines/pics/399945968_small.jpg http://77.img.v4.skyrock.com/775/nors2decines/pics/399952349_small.jpg http://www.collectifvan.org/images/news/Jan_20080131_07_37_27.jpg "our ancestor are victims not murderers" All was done to dirty the armenians presented as extremist and refusing reconciliation, and what about Genocide, well for the ones who defend hardly this woman in the name of democraty and against racism, first we should speak about the turkish victims and then if their´s really proof... it´s just a beginning of the new way to stop the movement of recognition, after Germany (Hakki Keskin), the Nederlands (Nebahat Albayrak, Ayhan Tonca, Osman Elmaci, Erdinc Sacan), Belgium (Emir Kir, Saït Köse, Murat Denizli), Austria (Mustafa Iscel), it´s the turn of France, she did resign but what next sources: (french language) http://www.armenews.com/article.php3?id_ar..._recherche=bret http://www.collectifvan.org/article.php?r=0&id=15455 http://www.collectifvan.org/article.php?r=0&id=15421 the articles http://libelyon.blogs.liberation.fr/info/2...-le-gnocid.html http://libelyon.blogs.liberation.fr/info/2...-le-gnoc-1.html http://libelyon.blogs.liberation.fr/info/2...-le-gnoc-2.html

absolutely not Ashot, I did missunderstood you as the meaning of "mock", sorry they are just comedians and I do love their presentation as their performance

sorry to be such a fool, you´re may be right, this isn´t entertainment but a politic act against the armenians I did indeed recognize some world famous armenian melodies as they were using traditionnal armenians instrument to perform this anti-revolutionary and anti-anti-armenian propaganda is unacceptable, may the Anca sue them in an international court just relax and have a little drink

I don´t know if they are here to make or remake history flattering the ottomans and making funs of armenians, but critics present them as 3 funny armenians well known in half of europe playing a brand new and original concert ... I found this link in an armenian blogg, and the one who manage the blogg still truly believe that they are armenians... I don´t know so many armenians artists who are producing themselves abroad and who are presenting themselves as armenian in front of a non armenian public only for entertainment Hopping that those who gonna watch the show will really enjoy it

when 3 italians are becoming 3 armenians brothers http://www.jashgawronsky.com http://www.jashgawronsky.com/images/trio.jpg http://www.jashgawronsky.com/images/music.jpg http://www.jashgawronsky.com/come_uk.htm

http://www.thelocal.se/9699/20080118/

the suspect admit to be the one who stabbed Fuat Deniz

the suspect is a relative to Fuat Deniz they don´t know yet if he is the one who was captured on the security camera with some blody clothes http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=5...78&rss=1399

a suspect has been arrested yesterday in the afternoon http://www.thelocal.se/9674/20080116/ he did know Fuat Deniz and was on the crime scene when FD was stabbed Police doesn´t want to reveal the motif of the crime neither his identity due to all the speculations around this murder http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=1...78&rss=1399

yeah right Anahid the respons of this denialism was to denial the Shoah by using racistic terms as to qualify ALL the J community the BIG problem here is that only one did react to this crap (Vava), and I wonder why they didn´´t delete this thread You are just giving a reason 1) to the J community not to support the resolution 2) to the J community who support this resolution to think about it twice and you are indeed helping the furkish people to present us as racist, antisemit and extremist Just keep doing this As Artusian did, in the opposit, others can use this thread to show how we are, even if a simple topic doesn´t representant nothing as this so called doctor In Europe, in France especially, some journalists and some politicians did use ”topics" and "arguments” (which were absolutely non representativ) from the Internet to developp their point of vue during the debate around the law condemning the denialism of the armenian genocide, and this dear lady against us

Arpa, I did not expect something that´s why I went surprised watching this video, it was the first time I did personaly see and hear a muslim speaking and defending the "case" of the armenians in public Everything is done with and by interest, that what bothers me the most, specially when in the name of some christians values, figthing for justice which we want universal, fighting for the memories of our Martyrs we succeed to developp unacceptable behaviours between us (division) and we are competing against others I did afterwards understand the reason of the use of the f word, I didn´t know that even here this may have an incidence ... I did use at the begining this simalar way of mentionning this people in an another forum (armenews) in order to avoid furkish advertisers as the google advertising system is activated ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TNEjnF-r40&eurl= (l find it on the netarmenie.com, sorry if this link is already on the Hyeforum as it was added on youtube in november 23, 2007 -> delete it if it´s the case )

by the way Artusian, I didn´t know that you can perfectly express yourself in french as you did post the same topic today in a french-armenian forum http://www.netarmenie.com/forum/viewtopic....highlight=#8275 that make me wondering artusian who you really are and why you keep doing this well done dud I do understand why you want that Arpa gonna keep this thread my furkish friend keep trying

http://video2.armenews.com/IMG/08Vehapar1.wmv

very sad to see that you can see a symbol of "unity" between you and denialist, between armenians who still are believers and cary out values (by the way Shenoravor Sourp Zenount) and those armenian with furkish values (hate and denial) when Arpa come with an article by James R.Russell, he did specified "Please ignore what he says about Dashnak-Mashnak". you should Arpa djan specified the opposite, when so called dashnak supporters in this forum developp openly antisemitisism view without any clue of the damage they are causing to this party and to the armenians. Yes the disgusting behaviour of the jewish community by not all supporting us is to be hardly blame, but absolutely, absolutely not by this kind of arguments Be united and sympathetic to all the victims of genocide -> "Solidarity for the Befallen"

Vava, one more thing Bernard-Henri Levy announce in the french-armenian magazine "Les Nouvelles d´Arménie" (nr 136, december 2007) in an interview with Ara Toranian that he is invited this spring to take part in a conference at the "92th Y" in New-York. He gonna lead a speech, and due to all what happen around the resolution 106 and at his request, the issue of the armenian gonna take a major place in this conference the same link to those who miss it previously

I don´t know about BourjHamoud (even if a part of my family did grew up in Lebanon) but he may certainly need some advice to launch a video on the internet, why not to contact him By the way, I do notice that the number of anti-armenian videos in the net is increasing in a very huge scale ...

Ava, this meeting took place January 17th 2007 in the "Palais de la Mutualité" Ashot, I totally agree with you, except that this kind of arguments developped by our own people can only damage our struggle (when they signed with our name ....), 10 years ago it was only neo-nazist who came with such revisionism and the skills of caricaturing people of a defined group. Anahit, as Arturian you miss once again the point, by the way, in the meeting with my jewish doctor in philosophy (you know the ones with this "jewish face and eyes" as you quoted) the dashnag parti of Europe was highly represented Pari Chapatavertch Polorit

yeah, I see the level of some in this forum, do you want to know what my jewish doctor in philosophy says about the armenian genocide, watch please and read carefuly if you only can before you return to your antisemitism may Jesus forgive you, may our Martyrs forgive this crap coming from this f.. new generation of young armenian people baring a christian cross,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6vsuYsEwZ8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGIjChcFEfk

Artusian, once again you miss the point you said and I quote I don´t have to imagine, I just have to read here som topics, as Gamavor´s and sorry, I don´t buy this crap from a so called doctor or the so called Gamavor, thanks God they are both NOTHING and doesn´t represant us have a nice day bro

Artusian, your links only confirm that he is a doctor, absolutely nothing else sorry and thank you Gamavor, your video is suck, the conspiracy theory doesn´t work you may forgot that 2 centuries before the genocide jews were evicted from the ottoman empire whereas rich armenians (the amiras) where ruling turkey behind the sultans (+ the mother of Abdullah Hamid was armenian) + dashnag party help the Young Turks to take power ..... does it make us responsible ??? There´s a major difference between the denial of the thruth and not supporting it. The disgusting behavior of the jews is to condemn, as our disguting behavior (not supporting in a larger scale the other christians who also were exterminated during the genocide... )

I don´t really think that it is a such god idea to take any consideration on what this so called "high profile" doctor have to say, by the way this 2 links are not working all the ones who were voting for the 106 resolution recognize the genocide, even those who vote against it, now if a so called doctor want to try to do some history by using the same arguments as the turks do, can he really be an intellectual representing the jewish community with the importance that Artusian try to advance, I don´t think so shall we do the same, trying to respond to this argument in order to give an importance to this so called doctor the line between being furious against a group and hating it is very thin, be carefull

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