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AZERITURKS Email: eminhasanov@hotmail.com posted January 23, 2002 05:28 PT -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- hello everybody. we r from azerbaijan. we want to say that all the things that armenians nave done to us will be punished. we will take revenge of our brothers and sisters that u killed in Qarabag and through all our history. we declare "CIHAD" to u....

"ARMENIAN-ARAB" RELATIONS" AND "Artsax CONFLICT" MONOGRAPHS TO BE PUBLISHED IN UAE IN ARABIC JANUARY 21. The UAE-based "Jaed" Coordination and Research Center intends to publish two monographs, "The Armenian-Arab relations" and "The Artsax Conflict", in Arabic, the press service of the Armenian Foreign Office told ARMINFO. During the meeting Armenian Ambassador to the UAE Arshak Poladian held with Vice-Chairman of the UAE government, Chairman of the "Jaed" center, Sheik Sultan ben Jaed Naghayan, the sides discussed prospects of developing cooperation between Armenian research, political and cultural centers and the "Jaed" center. Sultan Naghayan also said that the "Jaed" center is preparing for publication a number of works on Armenian studies.

Bravo !!!

SAS jan de PAndxtutyan mej enq el ur gnam. Njdeh - yes ur njdeh@ ur , che chi lini.

i need help of finding the ARmenian word for shoe horn - Rajok best one was - K@r@nkaqash MOvses

Harout jan Shnorhakal em, patahakan gutse sakayn sa im Amenits shat sirats yergerits mekn e... Hampere Koqis Hampere

Harout jan ba yes indz et tesak baner tuyl k2tam, restoran, meqena, inqnatir. iy vor kosmosits het gam, girq grem, da urish harts. Tv yeluytner unenam, hamalsaranum hartsazruytsner, Andrasyanits papulyar klinem, en Sirunik styuardessaner@ kasen Ya Kasmanafta Movsesa Vidila. ba! nayi te 40 jares du el karas gas, jishta mi qich nerrvatsq klini, bayst te el um het em xorovats anelu, de gites eli Xashn el menak menak chi utvum. Bayts te mi payman, vor im girq@ qo grqits shuta helnelu, yev du nuyn bani masin ches grelu inch vor yes, mi tarber temma @entry, ham el Tv vra menak Horizon Tv karas aytseles, mnatsats@ imnna, yev qani chem moratsel, yete Azat@ 6pac piva arats ga arbanyak tesutyan mezi, indz 3 hata hasnum, mnatsats @de gites dzez yev muys 7 kosmanaftnerin. yes ho j@lat chem. dzer hamar em mtatsum, ba vor etanq Saturn u enter sirun mirun axchkerk erni, inch enq pativ talu... ehhhh tesnes yerb mi hat Hye Kosmos kerta, etqan kabrim or ha ??? Yertam pid PAndxtutyun enem ora kosmos yertanq...MOvses -

du j@ptum es, isk irakanutyan mej latselu bana, miyan yev miyayn 20 milyon dollar, kanach, tandzi koriz, yev menq HAyer@s nuynpes kunenanq Kasmanaft Astragnats, yev iyd djvar gorts@ yes im userin karnem... xostanum em ardaratsnel dzer bolori spasumner. Harout jan te mi ban avelana achqis vra, qonna ap. yev giteq che verevits mi 2 yerkir ka drants vra inch em anelu... BA lusni vra mi hat HAykakan Hamov Hotov Xorovats chenenq ? ashxarh @tesni te inch azg enq ? kam asum en te Lusni vra tsurta shat , iy xash utelu mtnolort em asel... marsi vra mi hat el tondir dnenq, tor kam arachin Mard@ Hye@ lini... kam Jupiteri kam Saturni vra inch Gogly klini sarkel ??? Isk du j@ptum es... Lalu ban e ap ... espes eq anum eli vor azg@ arach chi gnum... Movses / yete 20milyon taq / Astraganats Movses Ba!!!

the Persian name for rose is gul the Persian name for Varduhi is = Gyulnara ? so the name of the city Gyulistan in Shahumyan rg' is persian. nice to knwo this - Thanks Arpa Movses [ January 22, 2002: Message edited by: MosJan ]

inch xosk Vard/Ward bar@/Anvanum@ mez HAyeris mot shat varuts e ogtagotsvum, chgitem te mer barn e te voch sakayn mer azgayin sovorutyunerits mek@ vor@ galis der minj qristonya jamanaknerits, da Vardevorn e - yev yete chem sxalvum iys sovorutyan anun@ / anvanum@ anpopox e mnatsel minch iysor. Yes Kaseyi Vard@ da HAykakan e 100% Qani vor mer N@vard@ HAyuhi e yev mer Yerevan@ VArdaguyn amenalav vardi osharak@ mer HAyuhinern en Patrastum (irents Hampyuri pes) isk VArtuhin / VArtuk ?= Isk Vardan@? = isk VArdananq@? = isk VArdapet@? = ? te vardapet@ T ov e grvum ??

isk ka ardyoq kap k@runk trchuni yev Votqi k@runki mej ???

NATIONAL ONLINE DATA BASE OF ARMENIAN BOOKS TO BE ESTABLISHED YEREVAN, JANUARY 21, ARMENPRESS The Open Society Fund (SOROS) has released a grant of $263,000 to support the libraries of Armenia. This money will go for creation of the Armenian automated united library network, as well as the establishment of the national online data base of the Armenian books. The program will be realized by the employees of the Yerevan State University, Academy of Sciences and scientific libraries. According to the head of the culture ministry libraries department Fatma Khachatrian, the program is supposed to be implemented within two years. The tender for installment of technical means, namely servers, to support the program, was realized in 2001. A Jewish library organization having technical capabilities corresponding with international standards, has won the tender and will realize all these works. Its working staff will arrive in Yerevan in February in order to hold training courses for the local library workers.

ATHLETIC CENTER TO BE INAUGURATED IN GYUMRI YEREVAN, JANUARY 21, ARMENPRESS: Kenneth Hill, the head of the USAID Europe and Eurasia Division and Kith Simmons, the head of USAID Armenia office, will travel tomorrow to Armenia's second largest town of Gyumri to attend inauguration of a completely restored Athletic Center. The restoration of the Center was accomplished by the Save the Children organization on USAID funds within the framework of another $3.3 million worth USAID-funded program of Public Works. The main goal of the USAID Public Works program is to help ease social tension in several Armenian provinces through creation of short-term public works in urban and rural areas. It involves five Armenian provinces of Lori, Shirak, Gegharkunik, Syunik, Tavoush, Vayots Dzor and the capital city Yerevan.

GERMAN SCIENTIST TO LECTURE AFGHAN WAR INFLUENCE ON SOUTH CAUCASUS Reiner Freitag-Wirminghause, German philosophy doctor, will deliver a lecture on ‘South Caucasus and Turkey’s Caucasian policy after September 11 and Afghan War’ at Berlin’s Hessen representation today, January 22 at 7.30 PM. The event is organized by German-Armenian Association. Reiner Freitag-Wirminghause is representing the Oriental Studies Institute of Germany based in Hamburg, and has been working there since 1989. Before that he worked at the Oriental Studies Institute of Beirut. He is a specialist in Turkish and Muslim studies and is also an ethnologist. Turkey, Caucasus and Central Asia are the territories which the German philosophy doctor specialized in. Reiner Freitag-Wirminghause’s interesting works are ‘Geopolitics in Caspian Sea: fight for new energy sources’ (1997) and ‘Azerbaijan and Turkey: Brotherly ties’ (1998). Doctor Wirminghause had been the guest of the events organized by the German-Armenian Association in the previous years. The lecture of Dr. Wirminghause will refer to the following: The Afghan war creates new situation not only in Central Asia, but also in South Caucasus. In this respect Russian-American cooperation against terrorism is going to target not only Chechnya but also Nagorno -Karabagh, which will be represented as terrorist-separatist region by the Azeri side. As long as Azerbaijan has importance for USA Russia’s pressure on Georgia will continue, and the speculations on expansion of Turkey-Georgia-Azerbaijan military cooperation will continue. The event will be presided by Berlin-Armenian lawyer Stepan Tashchian. By Anahit Hovsepian, Germany

PRESENTATION OF ARMENIAN HISTORY BOOK HELD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The presentation of three-volume book ‘History of Nation’ written by the ex-patriarch of Istanbul’s Armenian Apostolic Church, Archbishop Makaghia Ormanian took place at the Mother See St. Etchmiadzin January 21. This is the third edition of the book, but it is published in Armenia for the first time. The book is dedicated to the 1700-th anniversary of Christianity adoption in Armenia. The book tells the history of Armenian nation from very beginning to the present days. It is a thorough and detailed work and gives exact information about Armenian history. The publication of the book was initiated by the dean of Yerevan State University’s Theology faculty, Archbishop Shahe Achemian. Armenian entrepreneur Tigran Karapetian financed the publication. All Armenian Catholicos Karekin II presided the presentation of the book and praised the successful undertaking of the edition’s initiators. © Copyright AZG

MODERN EYE-CENTER IN STEPANAKERT FAR’s (Fund for Armenian Relief) ‘Sirun Optic’ optical center successfully functions in Stepanakert for already some time. The founder of the center is American-Armenian Varuzhan Kyureghian from Los Angeles. The center is furnished with modern equipment, with the help of which doctors give the diagnosis of patients’ eye-decease. The center possesses big number of eyeglasses and plastic lenses. As Karabagh’s foreign ministry’s press office informed to Noyan Tapan, the center monthly prepares and delivers 30 eyeglasses to socially insecure people for free

«FIRST DYNASTY MINES» TO ACQUIRE ARARAT GOLD-MINING COMPANY 22.01.2002 /PanARMENIAN.Net/ «First Dynasty Mines» intends to get Arart gold-mining company shares belonging to the state. This bargain will cost $2250000 for the investor. It is planned to sign the corresponding contract by the end of this week. After that, in fact «First Dynasty Mines» will become the only owner of Ararat gold-mining company. One of the terms of the contract is the obligation of the investor to develop Sod field, the development of which needs $10-14mln. «First Dynasty Mines» has already invested about $30 mln in the field development. Reproduction in full or in part is prohibited without reference to "PanARMENIAN.Net"

DANES SELL «FALSE» ARMENIAN CHEESE AND CHILEANS SELL «FALSE» ARMENIAN WINE IN CALIFORNIA 22.01.2002 /PanARMENIAN.Net/ According to «Nezavisimaya gazeta» information, in Los Angeles and in a number of other Californian cities unscrupulous businessmen are engaged in the realization of fake Armenian wine «Areni» and cheese. Reality is that the wine is an inferior product from Chile and Danes sell «Armenian» cheese of unknown origin. The clear demand for Armenian products and beneficial state of market helps unscrupulous businessmen. In this connection, the Center of agriculture development of the agriculture ministry of the Republic suggests making a contract with the California government on the direct supplies of the popular products from Armenia. Reproduction in full or in part is prohibited without reference to "PanARMENIAN.Net"

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Bavakanin informativ yev x@raxosakan post er. yes mi tsnot unem uo Pap@ Hayastan galsi 1946-7 tvakanerin poxel er ir azganun@ turqakan Bakhalyan-its --- N@paravacharyan- Hayerenov-, hima im tsanot@s USA qaraqatsy darnalun pes poxets ir azganun@ ir hin Turkakanov drets het Bakhalyan, asum em inchu asuam Hayerenov yerkara. hetaqrqir mardik en. tekuz yerkar, ayst te Hayerena, kam vstah em ir papakan azganun@ bakhalyan el chi yerevi, eli gaxti jamanak trvats atsakan@ darstel e azganun, chunes jisht azganun @entry paperit t@sn@ndavayr@, kam anun@ mets papit. hima el ho hnarvorutyun ka shateris hamar.

Jorovurd mi 20 milyoni kariq unem , shat arag. Azganver gortsy hamar.

my great-grandfathers name was Movses - Moses - he was born in Waqef - (Village in MusaLer) - just like any Musalertsy my great-grandfather also had a Nick name, most of the time nick name was used in the Village instead of the name, like Ftuzents Fsoo, Yabanjui Manuk, my great-grandfathers Nick name was Chlder Musa ( Crazy Musa-Movses ), when giving surnames, for some crazy reason the person who was documenting the names, have used my great-grandfathers Nick name us our new surnames, Chlderyan ( Like G@joyan in ARmenian ) , we have changed our surname in Armenia, To Movsisyan, just like many other Armenians who did not need a turkish element in their surnames.

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ARMENIAN PRODUCTS’ SHIPMENT PRICES GONE UP Yesterday, January 18, ‘Apaven’ Armenian forwarding company informed daily Azg that staring January 1 new order is in effect for Armenian products’ shipment via Black Sea, which is carried out by Ukrainian Ukrferry shipping company. As our readers already know, the Ukrainian Ukrferry company informed the Armenian side that the prices of shipment of Armenian products via Black Sea are going to go up starting January 2002. The Ukrainian company said it was going to remove the 20% discount fixed for Armenian goods’ transfer and is going to ship Armenian products via Batumi port instead of Poti, Georgia. Bearing in mind all these factors, the chairman of Union of Armenian Businessmen and Industrialists (UABI) Arsen Ghazarian, who is also the head of ‘Apaven’ forwarding company, noted earlier that the prices of shipment for one tone of products will rise by 5-6 USD. Daily Azg earlier informed that for helping the Armenian forwarders Armenian trade and industry and transport and communication ministers contacted their Ukrainian counterparts and asked to deal with the issue. Also the issue was discussed at the Business Support Council, which is headed by the Armenian prime minister Andranik Margarian. Armenian Business Competition Protection Council also tried to influence the decision of ‘Ukrferry’ contacting its Ukrainian colleagues. But all the efforts were in vain. Pointing out that the Ukrferry is a private company, state officials were noting that the mediation of Ukrainian corresponding bodies may only have a symbolic character and will not affect Ukrferry’s decision. Pitifully these doubts became justified. The chairman of UABI said that the decision of Ukrainian shipping company is natural, as far as Armenian forwarders do not have any other route to ship their products through. © Copyright AZG

KARABAGH WILL NEVER BE PART OF AZERBAIJAN -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Speaking on Friday to reporters at the National Press Club the foreign minister of Nagorno Artsax Naira Melkumian indicated that the position of Stepanakert on how the decade-long conflict with Azerbaijan should be resolved, has not changed. Melkumian said that the population and the leadership of Artsax had long ago decided, through a 1991 referendum, to live independently from Azerbaijan. “The population of Nagorno Karabagh will never agree to be part of Azerbaijan,” she stressed. She reiterated that any talks over the ways of resolving the ongoing opposition, held without Artsax participation, are viewed only as preliminary. She said that the talks might translate into full negotiations provided that Artsax representatives also took part in them. According to her, any peace deal over Artsax would be deemed unacceptable unless supported its leadership and people. In a reference to the OSCE Minks group US co-chairman Rudolph Perina's announcement that Nagorno Artsax conflict was the "hotbed of instability in the region" and if the current chances were not utilized to solve it, the world would lose its interest towards it, Melkumian said: "If all the sides to the conflict, as well as the peace brokers would agree that a just solution to the conflict is a solution that would, in the first place, satisfy the victim of the conflict-the people of Artsax, this would really eliminate the "hotbed of instability." Melkumian claimed that the announcement was a clear message, addressed to Azerbaijani side. "As regards the chances for resolving the conflict, this year will most probably provide new ones for making a breakthrough in the talks, having in mind the aftereffects of the September 11 attacks on the USA," she said, and added that Artsax was willing to do everything possible to step up the process of final resolution of the conflict, "but we cannot go to steps that would endanger Artsax security." Moving ahead to the bellicose announcements coming from Baku, the minister said that resumption of hostilities in Nagorno Karabagh cannot be ruled out, “if the country is ready for it.” “The Azeri army would not think twice to attack Karabagh if it were ready for it,” she said. According to Mrs. Melkumian, this kind of announcements are for domestic use in Azerbaijan, as “its internal situation does not promote resolution of the conflict, as a country in which the human rights of its population are violated, cannot give autonomy to national minorities.” Speaking about the so-called Paris principles, on the basis of which the Armenian side wants to regulate the conflict, Melkumian said she was aware of them, but could not provide their details. "Azerbaijan's flat rejection of these principles does not mean that they were forgotten and that the process should start from a zero position," she said. According to her, neither Artsax nor Armenia will ever go to a level lesser than the Paris principles. She went on to say that the differences in the positions of Armenia and Artsax regarding the conflict resolution are slight and have no importance. She said that the conflict should be resolved basing on the principle of people's right to self-determination. Another important factor, according to her, is that the people of Nagorno Artsax have self-determined themselves on a territory that had been accepted as disputed back in 1919-1920 by the international community. In response to a question what are possible consequences if the conflict becomes a subject of discussions in the Council of Europe Mrs. Melkumian said there are “petrified” approaches towards conflict resolution models. “We need to get into the process to present our vision of the conflict settlement,” she said, adding that the OSCE , when it was tasked to help handle the problem, was demanding that Karabagh should withdraw its troops from the occupied territories, “but in the course of nine years we have managed, to a certain degree, to change that approach.” Melkumian also said that the OSCE Minks group should continue its efforts as its co-chairman have gained experience and are well aware of the conflict's details, that is why “involvement of new mediators would hardly help to move ahead.” “The OSCE Minsk group co-chairs are representing the three super-powers and attempts to place pressure on them is meaningless,” she said, adding that she could not agree with those assertions claiming that Karabagh was ousted from the negotiation process, as it practically does not participate in any talks. She said no full negotiations have so far been held and “besides, the co-chairs always visit Stepanakert.” In a reference to the plight of refugees, she said that Azeri refugees could return to Nagorno Karabagh, but this should be a two-way process and Armenian refugees must also be given guarantees to return to their previous settlement within Azerbaijan proper. By Narine Mkrtchian © Copyright AZG