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  1. MosJan

    Phobia Armeniaca

    hmmm - lets not get personal !!!
  2. GM RRRRRRRRRRRRRR el yerbeq GM chem arni Yerbeq!!! Toyota ONLY !!!
  3. Yes MJ you have / mi shish Noyak qo hashvin / vorpes tuganq / [ December 10, 2002, 05:29 PM: Message edited by: MosJan ]
  4. MosJan

    Light-bulb

    ogtagortsum enq LAMP - shat mets gortsatsutyun uni nayev LUYS - luys@ miyatsra - kam luys@ anjati - iynpes vor LAMP - yete mer MetsaHargo Arpan mi ban chgtni mez hamar.
  5. MosJan

    Light-bulb

    Lamp - yete ch3em sxalvum - qanzi Yerevanum ka Yerevani Lamperi Gortsaran - iyspes er anvanum@ - hmmm havatal@s chi galis vor chunenq Hayeren bar@ - lamp -? lapter? che sa che spaseq grqers p@rptem mi qich
  6. MosJan

    Light-bulb

    17: We can give the bulb to Robo – he will start yelling – he will tell us - if use this light bulb, we will start supporting the Jews, since 90% of the nuclear power plants are manage by Jews in USA. or teh box was made in izrael. 18: We can give the bulb to Agmug – Gayane – Alpha – DL – Berj - Sulemita - raffiaharonian, Sulamita, - you will never get a answer – or Alpha will stop by after a year and blame me for it.
  7. MOTION TO RECOGNIZE THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE MEETS SIGNIFICANT SETBACK Sarkis Assadourian M.P. Brampton Centre, (Lib), Chairman of the Canada Armenia Parliamentary Friendship Group, and senior member of the Foreign Affairs Committee said a press release that the Standing Committee of the House of Commons on Foreign Affairs and International Trade defeated (6/5) a motion introduced successfully by him on November 27, 2002 that: "That the committee invite the House of Commons to recognize the genocide of the Armenians, which began at the turn of the last century, by the Ottoman Turks, during the First World War." Commenting on the defeat of the motion Assadourian said: "It is regrettable that the Committee refused to grant me unanimous consent to refer the motion for future debate and consequently a vote had to occur. It was obvious that the above motion did not have enough support to pass on that day and subsequently the Motion died in Committee. In an effort to undue this procedural setback Assadourian called on the Committee to rescind the decision of December 4th. © Copyright AZG
  8. Nightmares and Making Peace: A mother looks back at 14 years of loss Editor's note: Tomorrow (December 7) makes 14 years since the Spitak earthquake killed 25,000. Children who weren't even born then are teenagers now, many born to parents as replacements for children who died. Laura Atanesyan is such a parent and this is a glimpse of her experience... By Vahan Ishkhanyan ArmeniaNow reporter After a few years' break Laura again started cooking dolma, when one day her son said: "Mom, would you make that meal with green leaf?" After the earthquake she wasn't cooking dolma for a long time, as it had been the favorite meal of her 10-year old and 12-year old sons who died under ruins. Artyom was born a year later... The word "earthquake" for Laura is the widely opened eyes of her son and his question: "Mom, what is that?" "I was going to send him to school, I had already taken his coat to put it on my Artush and then I heard a thunder-like sound and the building shook. I understood it was an earthquake. My Artushik was round-eyed with fear. I told him not to be afraid, it was an earthquake and that I would quickly lead them to the elevator. The elevator was in our floor, my neighbor had just gone up. I opened the door to go out when the building collapsed." For the past 14 years and till now Laura feels there is something she could still do to rescue her children. And what she would have done, had there been another earthquake. Whether she would have managed to help her sons get into the elevator. Especially at nights, when she goes to bed free from everyday life, she again and again goes through the whole scene of the earthquake. "I opened the door for us to go out and the building fell. I tried to wrap my sons with my arms in order to hold them at least with my back, but the ground slipped away. And when I came around everything had disappeared." Prior to the earthquake Laura saw a dream - pigeons and horses in the sky, no fire, but white pigeons were burning and falling down black. Her neighbor explained the dream: the horse was a desire, pigeons meant youth that would be broken in Artsax. The earthquake coincided with the movement in Artsax, to which they were connecting their dreams. Four days later the earthquake took place. "We had an iron door. The door had fallen on something and a triangle had been formed, I was stuck under the door. There was space in front, there was no roof, only the sky. And I saw my younger boy in front of me, I did not know what had happened to my Grisha and knowing he was safe I started looking for my Artush. I heard the voice of Artush for some five minutes, then it disappeared and the last thing I heard was: 'Mom, I can't bear this anymore'." Laura would not imagine that her children had gone. She would participate in the secondary school end of year party of her deceased son. When her sons would reach the conscript age, she would go to the commissariat, "I would think that my children were among those. What a self-torture it was." Laura Atanesyan teaches art history in Gyumri's Pedagogical Institute and Merkurov Art School. Many years ago she exempted two students from the lectures, as she thought that if her two sons were not dead they would have been like them. "I was not able to look at them, I told them not to come to my lectures if they wanted, that I would not put absent and that they would get their grade at the end." But later when she got to know that one of the boys was born in the same year and month with her elder son, the opposite reaction arouse. "Unwillingly I wanted to see him, I thought he was my child, and thanks to him I began accepting children of that age." But her husband Vanya, who was a trainer of track and field athletics at the Pedagogical Institute and Sports School, left both places, as he couldn't communicate with the children. He was not able to recover from the shock and to return to his previous work. Five years ago he left to work construction in Moscow. Laura thinks that he chose that work with an express purpose - to isolate himself and not have any contact with children. Husbands of her four friends also left for Russia to work, as there were no jobs in Gyumri and they did not find other ways to support their families. (According to an official from the mayor's office, seven out of 10 families in Gyumri are split - that is, one or more members of the family is working outside the country). Laura thought that everyone was to blame for the earthquake. She was angry with all. She blamed even her husband for him not being at home to rescue the children. Her husband was at school at that time taking pupils out of the ruins. And Laura blamed him for being able to rescue strange children, but not his own. She blamed even Mount Aragats. "One day Aragats was in a fog. My Grishik called me and said, 'Mama, come and look, Turks took away Aragats.' 'Grishik jan, nobody took away Aragats, there is just fog.' Later I would look at it and say, 'I loved you so much, my children loved you, too, why did you do so?'" Of course, she managed to hide her anger that others expressed more acutely, but the anger and envy did not leave her. Why did the misfortune happen to her? The anger has now passed, she has conformed to that, and knows that nobody is to blame. It was just a natural calamity. But the question 'why' still arises. Every year as December 7 approached she became tense waiting for that day to come. She did not want to see people's faces. She got angry even when her son born after the earthquake wanted something. How could the child understand that his mother suffered? Now December does not arouse such acute feelings anymore. Laura knows that tomorrow she, calm and conformed with the past, must go to her sons' grave to do her duty. A few years after the earthquake Laura saw her deceased son in her dream, "He told me, 'Mom, my legs are cold, there is water.' A few days passed and I saw him again, then I told my husband that we had to dig the grave and if it is wet we should change the place." The husband and father dug into the grave and found it half filled with water. He dug a new grave, and when Laura saw that the new grave was dry they reburied their sons. "Now I ask myself why I made my husband dig that pit. What I did was something inhuman." When Laura's son Artyom was about to reach her deceased children's age, she despaired and worried that this son did not deserve the same fate. Now that anxiety has gone, as Artyom is older than her other sons when they died. "I've lived whatever I should have lived: everything dies when you lose children. If I hadn't Artyom, my living would have had no sense." Though they still live in a temporary small house and nobody knows when they will get an apartment, Laura's only care is her son. "Now I want to manage to quickly do everything that I haven't done for them. I am afraid I won't have time to. I would think: is it useful for my Artyom. If it is not I won't do that. I am not interested in whatever doesn't relate to my son in my life." The earthquake is always present in Laura's dreams, where she always tries to rescue her sons. "I would wake up because of uneasiness and would feel suffocating and with the sweat on my forehead would understand that it wasn't an earthquake, but just a dream. I would look and see that Artyom is next to me, everything is in its place, nothing is ruined and would slowly calm down." Inside Fair Pay?: Salaries for civil servants and government officials set for dramatic increase Full story -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Frequency Fight: Top Independent TV Station Still Off The Air Full story -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Repeated Tragedy: Another animal dies at Yerevan zoo Full story Write us at: info@armenianow.com Copyright ArmeniaNow 2002. All rights reserved. Articles may be reproduced, provided ArmeniaNow is cited as the source.
  9. MosJan

    MAC help needed

    Mj Jan take your MAC to your local Pawn Shop - see if you can get a 286 or a 386 IBM for a trade if not just donate the MAC to you local goodwill or thrift shop / you might pay some thing like a $50 for disposal yes el asum em MJ incha patahel - ehhh el du mi asa MAC dzerqna @nkel - Trrrerrq mi jar areq / haseq - prgeq - mer MJ mer dzerqits gnuma ~~~~
  10. MosJan

    Srika!!

    qani chem moratsel gnam - Aram asatryanin harstnem te ir Kostyum@ vor territs e vertsnum / de petqa che /
  11. MosJan

    Srika!!

    lava hishetsretsir et axchikneri moment@ moratsel eyi Qyamancha ??? hmm ha inchu che - Electronic Qyamancha mi hat ar / dzeri het el duduk nvagel sovori - shabat kiraki k@gnanq Forest Lown - dzeri het gerezmani gorts anenq - Aper kpav
  12. MosJan

    Srika!!

    Azat Hangstatsy !!! voroshel em yete es .com gorts@ lav chlini mot apagayum yes el @sksem yergel / de gites Barsegyan kam Akhtamar teri vra vertsnor en enpes vro manavand Hndkakan yergornerin ban chases / yerav ???
  13. ok ok hesa es dzer asatsner@ lriv dnelu em internety vra www.Zoqanch.com Azat es angam dzerqits@s prtsum chunes /
  14. ohh god it hurts me to see all this about the cameras F1 good old F1 - I have used this camera for something like 4 years - in 98 I have got old of a F3 - that I have now - but soon I have lost my interest in 35mm cameras - for the last 4 years I have been using a Hasselblad 501CM it has 80mm and extra 28mm CZ lens's - and a PME 90 Prism viewfinder ohm it was good - I was happy happy happy - and for my Panoramic staff I was using - Hasselblad XPan Rangefinder 45 mm - ohh GOD just wan I was thinking that I have the best camera the Digital cameras came in - so my large and mid format cameras have been collecting dust for some time now. Digital camera - smilies/mad.gif HMMMMMMMM smilies/mad.gif I have used so many of them - but the best one for me is a SONY MAVICA MVC-FD83 - it's nice to have a M-focus at your fingertips - since I need to do so much of the close up's and I do need a fool control on a focusing - now I’m using my new Nikon D1X, SLR Digital Camera / 5.47 Megapixel.- and for this I had to sell my Hasselblad cameras ohhh god - just in last 5 years I have wasted a small fortune on cameras and time on learning haw to use SLR cameras - Movses [ December 05, 2002, 12:59 PM: Message edited by: MosJan ]
  15. quote:Originally posted by Azat: quote:Originally posted by MosJan:Azat chem tesnum Movses, sorry, did not mean to confuse you. I was just kidding by putting the link to Srika. By the way, how come the only time you ever get confused is when we talk about "Zoqanch"? Azat jan / CONFUSED chem barekam jan hla du amusnatsy tenenq inch k@lines " Tes te zoqanchit incher em aselu / vor zoqanch em hartsnum / isk du urrarkum es SRIKAYI bajin@ indz du der chgites te incher karror en anel Mer ZoNQajner@ /
  16. Shnorhakal em Arpajan sirts hovatsav / mitq@s el hangstatsav
  17. Azat jan konkret ter@ asa - shat shtap petqa !!!!
  18. ohhhh Yesss !!! Boys are boys and we do need our toys
  19. Mer Hye Tramardkants AmenaSireli Eyak@ Anpoxarineli Zoqanch@ - Zoqanchner@ - " Marmin@s push push yerav dzo " Ardyoq Hayeren e Zoqanch - anvanum@ ??? yete voch uremn inchpes/inch e iyn ???? Arpa jan - Naxapes shnorhakal em / ognetseqqqqqqqq shat shtap petq e
  20. Accel- menq bolors el Profesyonalner enq Azat es incha ausm e es yerevuam mez mi achqov es nayum Azat mi parzabani iren iys hashiv@ Accel - mi hat jamanak unenas qo PM STUGI !!! Shnorhakal Naxapes
  21. 1. You must have a ring when proposing. 2. You must get down on one knee. 3. You shouldn't do it in a public place where the proposal is the "main event." JISHTA ASUM etpes petqa lini yes arden psakvats em He HA Qashvaq trrerq
  22. Azat jan hajord April - mayis gnum em Hayastan - iys angam portselu em aveli lav n@karner het berel. husov em minj iyd sovorem inchpes liovin ogtvem / gortsatsem iys cameran isk EOS@ iskapes hoyakap E / tranerits mek@ Recycler'its 3.500 ov er vertsrel / hoyakap arjeq - [ December 05, 2002, 01:45 PM: Message edited by: MosJan ]
  23. quote:Originally posted by Azat:Movses, will you adopt me? I always wanted rich parents. I have seen the F3 in magazines and it get super ratings. But cameras like Hasselblad and Mamiya and Leica are things that I have dreamed about. How do you like the Nikon D1X? It is suppose to be one of the best in the market these days. NO AZAT JAN NOi liek my toys yev chem sirum vro urishnern en xarum im "xaraliqnerov" bayts vro du eos-1ds arnes k@tas mek mek n@karem che aper ap nikon@ shat lava - jishtn asats der sovorum em ogtagortsel@ - lovin der chem ogtagortsel - sakayn amenorya gortsy mej shat hangista yev n@karner@ Zullal - vat@ gites inchna mi amis araj mi hat Nikon lens uneyi - NIkon AF-S Nikkor 17-35mm 1:2.8D Silent Wave Motor ED IF 77 - vajaretsy - hima el kariq@ unem dzerqs chi gnum etqanb tsaxsem norits arnem [ December 05, 2002, 01:10 PM: Message edited by: MosJan ]
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