TurkeyGuilty

System of a Down's second album, Toxicity, will be released on August 4th. There is a demo CD available, featuring "Prison Song," and "X" (aka, Multiply). You can also request "Chop Suey" on your local radio stations.

I may know them (my friends would be aghast right now that there could possibly be one Armenian that I don't know). Unfortunately, your cousin is unfamiliar, as well. So, what do you do?

I've been writing, editorially and creatively, since I was thirteen. I'm going to focus on Print Journalism, but I'm not sure where I would like to work in the future. I have a lot of different interests--music, politics, culture. I think I may end up working at a paper like New Times or LA Weekly? Armenian activities, prepare yourself: Armenian National Committee; AYF; Managing Editor for Usanogh, the Periodical of Armenian Students; Homenetmen, athlete and coach, former advisor of Western Region PR Committee; ASA wherein I was advisor and PR chair at GCC, Social Director and Genocide Committee member at UCLA, and now the Chair of the Genocide and Cultural Committee at USC; News Editor/March Coordinator of the United Armenian Students, who organized the demonstration in Little Armenia; I was the Associate Editor of Asbarez for a few months, and have been a correspondent for almost six years; I sing at the Ferrahian church. I can't think of anything else off-hand I try my best to make it to the conferences, but there's always a conflict. Who is your cousin? Harout Semerjian? Brady Bunch is a cool show, and has always made me laugh. I always related to Jan the most...Go figure. JENNY

I'll be starting graduate school at USC Annenberg School of Journalism (emphasis in Print) in August. I work for the City of Los Angeles, at the Commission for Children, Youth, and their Families in the Journalism and PR department. I'm also very active (read: too active ) in the Armenian community. Brady That's a very unique name. How did you come up with it. JENNY

I wish I could know what that one solution was. My mom was recounting how there were 7 priests at her wedding (from the two Sees and even "poghokagan" I believe). Tashkhala! Working for their management was an experience. It was being with them on the first leg of their Slayer/Clutch tour that was "cool," to say the least. That was one of the most memorable times of my life, and very inspirational. Their music is innovative and unique, and each song has a singular guitar riff that makes it very "catchy" and hypnotic. You're right about Slayer shows, they are very scary. Thank God that I was either on stage or very close to the security guards for those shows, because I wasn't the pro-mosher then, that I am now. I'm really looking forward to them playing with Slipknot!! There's not enough of those smily-faces to express my excitement. You have a 5 year old? How adorable! I absolutely love kids, and I can't wait to have some of my own. What is his/her name? JENNY

That is quite a coincidence If you don't mind my asking: had the relationship worked out, what would you have done? What kind of concessions would you or your bride have made for each other, or for the sake of the families involved? I think this show has to be indoors, and I foresee it to be at the Palladium. I used to work for their management company, and I know the boyz; I'll find out and post the info on the board. Slipknot is a very interesting band. I absolutely love their drums, especially the double-bass. The one thing that would make this show complete is if Linkin Park was support. I went to Ozzfest in '99 when System was there. Tashkhala, sunburn, dehydration. But, the line-up made up for it. 36? Dad of a 16 year old? Did you really want to have kids at 20? Well, dzerouni, will I be seeing you in the mosh pit? Because I, for one, cannot stand still at a System concert. JENNY [ June 22, 2001: Message edited by: TurkeyGuilty ]

Hi Aghmug, Not just that, but also where the couple would be married (Ferrahian vs. St. Peters for example), who would perform the ceremony, etc. Moreover, the two churches are divided between political lines, wherein people commonly call the Cilicia See the "Tashnag Church." These sort of 'factions' are bound to tear apart a couple. And, I'm still hoping someone can shed light on the Church's official position on these sort of relationships. PS. Are you going to System/Slipknot? [ June 21, 2001: Message edited by: TurkeyGuilty ]

I think you misunderstood my question (or I did not explicity say what I intended). I didn't express a personal bias, I hope you didn't infer one. But, these things (especially in Los Angeles) are not of the distant past and are very divisive. They cause tension within the "happy family" one is trying to establish, because the parents and extended families are displeased. They divide two people who are supposed to be "one." It might sound very Shakesperean, a la Romeo and Juliet, but I still think it is a valid issue. The reason I posted the question under this category was to find out whether the Armenian Church had any rules about this sort of marriage. There are other rules, and I was merely concerned that this could be one of them.

I have seen that a person can choose who they like, fall in love with, and grow to love. If a person concludes that dating and eventually marrying an Armenian is the best route for them (which I have), every other nationality will be "just a friend." Granted, two people can feel physically attracted to each other, regardless of nationality/ethnicity/race. How they choose to deal with that is up to them. As for me, I am waiting for the right Armenian guy, because someone as "Hye" as I am can only be with another Hye.

Hi Kazza My name is Jenny, and Sadanna means 'devil.' LOL. You may agree with the Rambo comparison. I am very proud that they caricatured me that way, because I made every effort to educate them about the Armenian culture. It was difficult being one of maybe 20 Armenians, who themselves were "underground." So, Rambo was a good image.

Hi Thorny Rose, I have another nickname that I am "infamous" for, that being Sadanna. It's my email address and the name that I use on the other bulletin board I subscribe to. I figured, "new board so why not new name?" I was in Turkey as part of a long summer vacation during high school. I went to Jordan to visit family for a few weeks, then I spent a month in Venice for "Hayakeedagan," after which I spent time in Turkey. My father is one of the handful of Armenians still involved in the oriental rug and antique trade, and he does business in Turkey and the old Armenian villages (among others). I was staying with his business associates. It was a very interesting trip, and each place that I visited was a different culture shock. I am a very Hayaser person, I am "Hye" in all senses of the word, right down to the accent I manufactured for when I speak English My classmates in high school once drew a caricature of me as "Rambo" complete with a mooshtag over my shoulders and an Armenian flag behind me. This same person was immersed in the Turkish culture, and I appreciated it as such. I've seen other posts on this subject about dating or marrying a Turk. For me, dating or marrying anybody other than an Armenian is out of the question. But, the choice between befriending or antagonizing someone based on their ethnicity...I'm not going to hate someone because they're a Turk.

As my username clearly reads "TurkeyGuilty," one can see what my beliefs are about their government. GOVERNMENT, not their people. I lived in Turkey for almost a month, with a Turkish family, who apologized to me for what their country did in 1915 and still continues to do until today. I am often taken aback by the hatred that some Armenians disseminate about modern-day Turks. For example, after the earthquake in Istanbul, I heard many of my peers saying "Okh yeghav, they deserve it, I hope all the Turks die," etc. I, on the other hand, thought of my friends who could have died in that earthquake and was overwhelmingly sad. The Turks have a culture--music, food, religion--just as all people of this world. It is unfair to dismiss them or hate them as a people because of their government (one which imprisons journalists and activists, whose constituents by virtue of their citizenship are the prisoners of).

Hello Everyone! First, let me say what an honor it is to be part of such an illustrious group of Armenians. I have been reading the discussions on this forum for a few months, and I hope to contribute now. ~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~* There are so many distinctions between Armenians, and each person has his or her own list of priorities or things he or she considers to be "fundamental," be it dialect, politics, etc. I originally wanted to post this question in the romance category, but then I realized the issue does not stem from the "relationship," rather the implications made upon it by the Armenian Church. Is it possible, ethical, or logical for two people whose families are 'divided' between the two Sees of the Church to date, get married, have children, baptize children.... Help??