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I don't mean to cause a nuisance, but our program is aimed at helping the Armenian youth. The event is tomorrow. The other postings could have stayed up until after the event. Since I notice that many meaningful discussions about our problems as a community take place on these boards, I wanted to offer some of the members an opportunity to do something about these problems. I was trying to reach as many readers as possible. Not everyone goes into every folder.

Mingle with Mentors at Minx Join us for some fun and mingle with the GenNext mentors AGBU Generation Next matches volunteer mentors with Armenian teenagers in the community. With a minimal commitment of time, mentors significantly impact a teenager's life. Find out why mentoring can be a fulfilling and life changing experience. We'll mingle, get to know each other and you can find out exactly what it takes to become a Generation Next mentor. You'll find that Generation Next is a family that you'll want to be a part of! MENTOR MIXER @ MINX February 1, 2007 Thursday 7:00 PM - 10:00 PM Admission: FREE Appetizers will be served Age 19 and over Minx Restaurant & Lounge 300 Harvey Dr., Glendale, 91206 (818) 242 - 9191 www.agbugennext.org (626) 794 - 7942

Yeah, I have to agree with you guys on that. But the text is correct, whether the corresponding images are related--that's a matter for debate. But it is the only thing I've found online. I may have to go to a real library to do some research.

Dear Friend, Barev, Our Armenian youth need YOUR direct involvement in their lives. Kids in their early teens face a perilous journey on their way to young adulthood. Many of our Armenian youth must deal with the pressures of gangs, drugs, crime, sexual promiscuity, family dysfunction, and other ills plaguing the Los Angeles community. Here at Generation Next, our focus is prevention. By pairing kids with adult volunteers who devote just a little quality time, Generation Next reaches teens BEFORE THEY GET INVOLVED in any of these serious problems. We are looking for mentors, adult volunteers above the age of 19, who can spend a couple of hours a week to positively impact the life of young Armenians today. Please join us for an INFORMATIVE SESSION at the AGBU Pasadena Alex Manoogian Center and find out how you can make a lasting impact on your community and forever change a young Armenian’s life as well as your own! INFORMATIVE SESSION Thursday, December 14, 2006 7:00PM Opening Reception (refreshments) 7:30PM Orientation begins promptly AGBU Alex Manoogian Pasadena Center, Boyajian Hall 2495 E. Mountain St. Pasadena, CA 91104 Mentors and mentees alike commend the effectiveness of Generation Next: “The mentors really help a lot. And they teach me how their experiences were when they were a teenager…to me, it’s her being a guidance to me and helping me through this teenage path that I’m going through.” -Generation Next Mentee “I got into this program feeling that it’s going to be an obligation and burden…but you actually feel drawn and compelled to go. You create this synergy with your mentee and I have learned just as much from my mentee as he has from me. -Generation Next Mentor I’M BUSY! How much time does this take, you ask? As much as you wish to give, but a couple of hours a month can change an Armenian teen’s world. You’ll have fun doing it too; we go on hikes, rock climbing, comedy improv theatre, football tailgate parties, art exhibits, plays and much much more. Come with your friends, have some refreshments and find out about the exceptional family of men and women who are making a real difference in the world today! Just RSVP so that we may make arrangements: info@agbugennext.org or (626) 794 – 7942. Ara Arzumanian Director Armenian General Benevolent Union Generation Next Mentorship Program 626.794.7942 office 818.395.2252 cell p.s. Check us out online: www.agbugennext.org

Hello all, I wonder if anyone can help. I am looking for any flags, coat of arms, or other symbology of the five Armenian Meliks who ruled Artsakh during the 16th and 17th centuries, or as they are otherwise known, the Meliks of Khamsa. I found this quote from the "Eagles Nest of Freedom" page in the "History of Artsakh" section of www.armenianhighlands.com which reads: "In the sixteenth century in Artsakh a number of original administrative-political entities known as melikdoms or principalities were formed and ruled by the Armenian meliks. They were united in 5 melik states -- Varanda, Khachen, Dizak, Djraberd, Gullistan." Above this text is a small graphic which looks like it might represent some sort of symbol / flag / or coat of arms representing the Meliks. But I am not sure if that is what it is. Does anyone have this information or a lead on where I might find such info. Any assistance in this matter is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

I tried to go to your survey. But the link said that the survey is closed. In any case, I've been working with Armenian Youth in the LA area for the past 6 years, so if you want to get in touch with me I might be able to help. Let me know.

Dear Friend, Barev, Our Armenian youth need YOUR direct involvement in their lives. Kids in their early teens face a perilous journey on their way to young adulthood. Many of our Armenian youth must deal with the pressures of gangs, drugs, crime, sexual promiscuity, family dysfunction, and other ills plaguing the Los Angeles community. Here at Generation Next, our focus is prevention. By pairing kids with adult volunteers who devote just a little quality time, Generation Next reaches teens BEFORE THEY GET INVOLVED in any of these serious problems. We are looking for mentors, adult volunteers above the age of 19, who can spend a couple of hours a week to positively impact the life of young Armenians today. Please join us for an INFORMATIVE SESSION at the AGBU Pasadena Alex Manoogian Center and find out how you can make a lasting impact on your community and forever change a young Armenian’s life as well as your own! INFORMATIVE SESSION Thursday, December 14, 2006 7:00PM Opening Reception (refreshments) 7:30PM Orientation begins promptly AGBU Alex Manoogian Pasadena Center, Boyajian Hall 2495 E. Mountain St. Pasadena, CA 91104 Mentors and mentees alike commend the effectiveness of Generation Next: “The mentors really help a lot. And they teach me how their experiences were when they were a teenager…to me, it’s her being a guidance to me and helping me through this teenage path that I’m going through.” -Generation Next Mentee “I got into this program feeling that it’s going to be an obligation and burden…but you actually feel drawn and compelled to go. You create this synergy with your mentee and I have learned just as much from my mentee as he has from me. -Generation Next Mentor I’M BUSY! How much time does this take, you ask? As much as you wish to give, but a couple of hours a month can change an Armenian teen’s world. You’ll have fun doing it too; we go on hikes, rock climbing, comedy improv theatre, football tailgate parties, art exhibits, plays and much much more. Come with your friends, have some refreshments and find out about the exceptional family of men and women who are making a real difference in the world today! Just RSVP so that we may make arrangements: info@agbugennext.org or (626) 794 – 7942. Ara Arzumanian Director Armenian General Benevolent Union Generation Next Mentorship Program 626.794.7942 office 818.395.2252 cell p.s. Check us out online: www.agbugennext.org

Dear Friends, Barev, Our Armenian youth need YOUR direct involvement in their lives. Kids in their early teens face a perilous journey on their way to young adulthood. Many of our Armenian youth must deal with the pressures of gangs, drugs, crime, sexual promiscuity, family dysfunction, and other ills plaguing the Los Angeles community. Here at Generation Next, our focus is prevention. By pairing kids with adult volunteers who devote just a little quality time, Generation Next reaches teens BEFORE THEY GET INVOLVED in any of these serious problems. We are looking for mentors, adult volunteers above the age of 19, who can spend a couple of hours a week to positively impact the life of young Armenians today. Please join us for an INFORMATIVE SESSION at the AGBU Pasadena Alex Manoogian Center and find out how you can make a lasting impact on your community and forever change a young Armenian’s life as well as your own! INFORMATIVE SESSION Thursday, December 14, 2006 7:00PM Opening Reception (refreshments) 7:30PM Orientation begins promptly AGBU Alex Manoogian Pasadena Center, Boyajian Hall 2495 E. Mountain St. Pasadena, CA 91104 Mentors and mentees alike commend the effectiveness of Generation Next: “The mentors really help a lot. And they teach me how their experiences were when they were a teenager…to me, it’s her being a guidance to me and helping me through this teenage path that I’m going through.” -Generation Next Mentee “I got into this program feeling that it’s going to be an obligation and burden…but you actually feel drawn and compelled to go. You create this synergy with your mentee and I have learned just as much from my mentee as he has from me. -Generation Next Mentor I’M BUSY! How much time does this take, you ask? As much as you wish to give, but a couple of hours a month can change an Armenian teen’s world. You’ll have fun doing it too; we go on hikes, rock climbing, comedy improv theatre, football tailgate parties, art exhibits, plays and much much more. Come with your friends, have some refreshments and find out about the exceptional family of men and women who are making a real difference in the world today! Just RSVP so that we may make arrangements: info@agbugennext.org or (626) 794 – 7942. Ara Arzumanian Director Armenian General Benevolent Union Generation Next Mentorship Program 626.794.7942 office 818.395.2252 cell p.s. Check us out online: www.agbugennext.org

Hey thanks for the good info...anyone else got any other links on this subject?

I totally agree with your evaluation of the situation...but i would also like to add that there are definitely some sort of lucrative opportunities here to take advantage of this waste. Some locals need to step in and instead of waiting for job creation, create a job for themselves. All it would really take is: two guys, a truck, a cheap track of land on the outskirts of the city and you have a scrap metal business, which I'm sure can be marketed to the multitude of construction companies currently operating in Armenia. But the question still remains in my mind....how does this comment of yours fit into this conversation??? Oh and Shaunt, I'm still waiting for an answer on the looting business. And Mos Jan, you beat me to it, I was just about to post the same article

hehehehe ...good point accelerated I don't know where you get your information from ASALA Van Operation...when you say things like "He Probably was in Karabagh" I don't know if you are just making gramatical errors or if you really have no idea what you're talking about. If you check any reputable Armenian sources that reported on the Artsakh Liberation War you will see that Monte had an immense impact on the succesful outcome of that war. It cannot be debated. He has been recognized by the Armenian nation as a national Hero in the same pantheon as Andranik Zoravar. So please tell us how he was a traitor.

I don't know how many of you have heard of this. But an excellent new Encyclopedia on the Artsakh Liberation War has come out. Well, I suppose the most accurate English translation of its title would be: Encyclopedic History of the Artsakh Liberation War. This is an excellent resource on our recent history. I would suggest that everyone who can get a hold of it buy a copy. I believe that only 500 were printed. Before it arrived in stores, I went to the bookstore and asked for them to hold a copy for me once it arrived. When I went back two weeks later, the only copy he had left was the one he was holding for me. I haven't had a chance to read much of it, I've only read a couple of entries, but it is an exhaustive work with a multitude of information, much of which would be difficult if at all possible to find through conventional means. We owe a great expression of grattitude to those scholars that worked on this monumental tome.

The Armenian courts are busy prosecuting looters? Where'd you get that info? Do you mean the American courts? as in a reference to New Orleans?

Mos Jan, thanks for keeping us up to date on this issue...here's the latest from Hetq: ------------ Najarians are now forced to take drastic actions [June 15, 2005] Last week Armenian-American businessmen and philanthropists Carolann and George Najarian were in Yerevan . They discovered that regarding their court case no progress has been made. They sent a letter to General Prosecutor Aghvan Hovsepyan expressing their surprise that nothing had changed regarding their case (See also: The Court of Cassation Will Hear the Najarians' Case). The Najarians have decided to appeal to the US Court System to defend their rights. In this case, the Republic of Armenia would be accused of wrongdoings. June 6, 2005 His Excellency Aghvan Hovsepyan General Prosecutor of the Republic of Armenia Dear Mr. Hovsepyan: After investigating our case regarding the fraudulent misappropriation of our property for many months, and after interrogating witnesses, including us, for scores of hours, the gathering of hundreds of documents and, after the humiliation of having to confront the criminal during the course of this investigation, your subordinates made an illegal decision to dismiss the case, and claimed that there was no crime committed against us, and suggested we go to civil court. The courts' ruling terminating your subordinates' illegal decision was appealed by your subordinates twice. The public court hearings on the case made it obvious that your subordinates have acted as the representative of the criminal through the whole process. The court hearings showed, as well, that the decision your subordinates made to dismiss the case was based on falsified evidence aimed at supporting the criminal while all key evidence and proof confirming that a crime was committed against us, was ignored. Specifically, one of the arguments used in court by your subordinates for defending the criminal was the fact that we offered him a settlement, a settlement which you personally led Carolann Najarian to believe was the only way to regain our properties during your last meeting with her. As a result of actions by your subordinates, and almost a two year long process over an obvious crime committed against us, our property has been expropriated and remains expropriated, while your subordinates continue helping the criminal to escape from justice. Three levels of Armenian courts confirmed through public hearings that our property was misappropriated and expropriated; your subordinates violated the law, deprived us from our lawful rights, impeded the fair investigation of the case and wrongly dismissed the case. However, instead of obeying court decisions after coming into force more than a month ago, your subordinates continue to violate the law, ignore the court decisions, and summon witnesses who previously gave accusing testimonies against the criminal, with the express purpose of exerting pressure on them to change their affidavits. They have also denied lawful petitions from our representatives to be part of the course of the case, have refused to name the criminal and now, even are trying to interrogate our lawyers in response to their lawful appeals – which is, as you know, illegal under Armenian and international law. We are also aware of your subordinates' attempts to illegally influence persons involved in the decision making on the case. The practice of protecting the criminal, keeping our property expropriated, violating the law and Armenia 's international treaty obligations and intimidating witnesses and lawyers thus destroying Armenia 's reputation by your subordinates must stop immediately. We demand the lawful and public hearing of this case. The continued denial of this, our lawful right, is forcing us to submit this case for resolution to international courts, a process which we have, up to now, patiently sought to avoid. K. George and Carolann Najarian

Barev Everyone, Phantom, What do you mean by "a career similar to Monte's"? Does that mean US Military service? I am in general agreement with Aaron. I feel this book is a powerful document and can be used as a powerful tool to inspire youth to take more ownership of their homeland. This is a very inspirational book and that's because Monte's life and actions were very inpsirational. As far as waiting for a certain type of leadership to emerge...that really doesn't make much sense to me...I feel my connection is more to the land and people and culture than to the political system. Which is why I plan on moving there. If it has problems, I need to work to make them better--not wait for other people to do it for me. You're right Aaoron, Monte didn't wait for others, he acted himself...I aspire to always be like that. Now here is the part of what I'm going to say that is going to be really unpopular: I don't feel that we suffer due to poor leadership. We have bad characteristics that are common to a great number of our people, that is to say we have a lot of bad traits, and our leadership simply reflect us. We have all sorts of leaders, good ones, bad ones, mediocre ones...they are reflections of us. If the bad ones are really bad, its because we are a people of extremes. Our immoral, "bad" individuals are horrible, and a lot of times our good individuals are excellent. We have people like Monte, Vazgen Sargsyan, Victor Hambartsumyan etc. and then we have people like the many traitors that contributed to thousands of deaths during the genocide, villagers that gave away the locations of fedayees, people like the killers of Oct. 27. Perhaps I haven't been succesful in fully expressing my ideas on this, but to sum it up: We don't suffer due to poor leadership, our leaders are a reflection of us. If they are selfish and incompetent its because we are selfish and incompetent. If they are hardworking and altruistic, it is because we are hardworking and altruistic. When we speak of our community and we throw in the word they...we begin to go off on a track that can not lead to improvement (read as self-improvement). We--not they. Finally, I disagree with most of Dr. Tchalian's review of the book. I think his main flaw is that he looks at it from literary critics point of view. This can be argued also. However, I think the book's real importance is in the real world application of it. Use this book to inspire the next generation as well as the current one (if there is such a thing as a current generation). And as far as his critical review goes, I'd argue against his position in that respect also. I don't mean to offend anyone, this is just how I speak/write.

When you say something like "Hero aside" it leads me to believe that you have little understanding of the impact of the Artsakh war and Monte's impact on the Artsakh War. We refer to it as the war for Artsakh, but this title is misleading since it was really a war for national survival. The Azeri plan was to press clear across Artsakh, into Zangezour and unify with Nakhichevan (which is also Historic Armenian land, but has effectively been depopulated of its Armenians). The impact Monte had in this war, was immeasurable. There are instances that his brother could not recount in the book, where Monte's prior experience in Lebanon was of paramount importance to the Armenian forces. Yes, as anyone, Monte made mistakes...and that incident with the young girl was tragic and weighed heavily on him; however, the father was a legitimate target. If you look at Monte's treatment of prisoners of war and civilians in the warzone, you will see that this one incident was not indicative of his personality / character / ethics. The incident with the diplomat and his daughters was one of his greatest failures in fact. However, one life taken in errant haste can not outweigh thousands of lives saved in calculated and passionate struggle against seemingly insurmountable odds.

Make sure you check out the news show Democracy Now, that carried an extended section on this huge scandal. www.democracynow.org When you get to the website, you can find a link at the top center of the page, below the header that says *Wednesday, August 10th, 2005: Listen/Watch entire show. If you don't see this article today, you can look in the archives and see the show for 08/10/05. This is a huge scandal for the Turks, we need to get the word out. Also, please check out this bit of an article from the Gibrahyer News Letter. The main article appears in Vanity Fair Magazine, which I haven't gotten yet, but am definitely going to pick up. The title of the Article is "An Inconvenient Patriot" bribe.jpgUNITED STATES HOUSE SPEAKER ACCUSED FOR TAKING BRIBES FOR STOPPING GENOCIDE RESOLUTION Friday, August 05, 2005. Vanity Fair has an interview with FBI whistle blower Sibel Edmonds, who was fired "after she accused a colleague of covering up illicit activity involving Turkish nationals". Among others, Edmonds says wiretaps of the Turkish Consulate reveal remarks by a Turkish official who claims the price for the Speaker of the House of Representatives Dennis Hastert to withdraw the Armenian Genocide Resolution in the fall of 2000 "would have been at least $500,000". Here's an excerpt from the Vanity Fair article: Thanks to Hastert, the resolution vehemently opposed by the Turks, passed the International Relations Committee by a large majority. Then, on October 19, minutes before the full House vote, Hastert withdrew it. At the time, he explained his decision by saying that he had received a letter from President Clinton arguing that the genocide resolution, if passed, would harm U.S. interests. Again, the reported content of the Chicago wiretaps may well have been sheer bravado, and there is no evidence that any payment was ever made to Hastert or his campaign. Nevertheless, a senior official at the Turkish Consulate is said to have claimed in one recording the price for Hastert to withdraw the resolution would have been at least $500,000. Hastert's spokesman says the congressman withdrew the genocide resolution issue only because of the approach from Clinton, "and to insinuate anything else just doesn't make any sense." He adds that Hastert has no affiliation with the A.T.C. [American Turkish Council] or other groups reportedly mentioned in the wiretaps: "He does not know these organizations." Hastert is "unaware of Turkish interests making donations," the spokesman says, and his staff has "not seen any pattern of donors with foreign names." more at: http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/08/04/200318.php

I don't know about the rest of you guys, but this is the book I had been waiting for since I was about 14 years old. If you look into this genre of literature there are a lot of exciting texts about the national heroes / literature of oppression / stories of struggle of other groups available in English, but this is the first really explosive, inspirational and powerful thing like this to appear in English for Armenians. I'm trying to get every Armenian youth I know to read it. Arvestaked, have you read the book? Or, should I say, what have you read on him?

No I can't see the Arm text in your quote...and I couldn't see it on the website you linked to either. I'm using Mozilla Firefox and I clicked the preset Armenian character encoding that it has, which works most of the time...but no dice. Any suggestions? what browser are you using? If not I'll email the webmaster of that site.

Hehehehe I love it...Thanks Arvestaked. I thought that would be a good source too. Unfortunately the guy who gave me this info had moved away some time ago...however, the situation being what it is, Arpa quoted text from that same guy's website. Fortunately he cited the source--and I'll be checking that book out. Oh, and thanks for the info and the link Arpa...lav kpav hehehehe And Kakachik, I think there has to be some link there...you know there always is...none of it is happenstance. But anyone else out there, I'm still lookin' for more resources. So if you know anything...join in.

Hello everyone. I'm looking for a resource to help identify the roots and ancient meanings of Armenian names. For example: The root "Ar" is one of the ancient names of the Armenian Sun God. Which is why it is such a prevalent root in Armenian words and particularly Armenian names. The name Ara, for example, means Child or Children of the Sun God. So you see I'm looking for these types of explanations. If anyone has a resource (i.e. Books, websites etc.) whether in English or Armenian please let me know.

Gamavor, where do you get that number? 2,000,000?

No problem Zartonk, as for the Armenians of Artsakh, it would be very interesting to find out where they fall in those numbers...I'll try to look it up when I have some more time. As far as the City of Angels goes, there is a problem. Many times, actually most often, people confuse the City of Los Angeles and the County of Los Angeles. Most Armenian sources that I have seen fail to make this important distinction, as the County of Los Angeles includes the City of Glendale. So that 1,000,000 number in the USAARMENIANLIFE list almost definitely is meant to represent Los Angeles County not Los Angeles City. (I forgot to mention that) The rest of LA county put together, most definitely has more Armenians than Glendale, but it is HIGHLY doubtful that LA City can have numbers rivaling Glendale.

I found the following text at: http://cacianalyst.org/view_article.php?articleid=36 which of course will have its own agenda. But this 3 year old article makes a lot of good points. I bolded what I thought was significant BACKGROUND: On February 15, 2002, the National Statistics Service of Armenia held a press conference announcing that there were 3,020,768 people in Armenia. The preliminary census data, collected from October 10-19, 2001, indicated that 950,000 Armenians have emigrated since the Soviet collapse in 1991. According to the United Nation's International Organization for Migration (IOM), Armenia has the highest rate of population outflow in the former Soviet Union. Nonetheless, the fact that the official population remained over 3 million came as a relief to many, considering the speculation that the number might have fallen below 2 million. Emigration has been a way of life for Armenians who have left their ancestral homeland in the Southern Caucasus and Eastern Anatolia for locations around the world for centuries. The Diaspora grew dramatically after World War I. Those that survived the massacres and deportations in Eastern Anatolia created communities throughout the world that still serve as population magnets. However, the biggest incentive for leaving Armenia in the past decade has been the economy. When the Soviet Union collapsed, so did Armenia's command economy and its people's living standards. Armenians took advantage of the most tangible new freedom in their lives - the right to emigrate. Most went to Russia, where there was no need for a visa or learning a new language. Many went west, to Europe or North America. Emigrating Armenians were soon followed by family members who sold their apartments at fire sale prices, leading to a collapse in the local real estate market. The Armenian government was not eager to undertake a census, which it delayed for years citing budgetary reasons. Privately, however, there were also fears that foreign governments would be less likely to provide aid to a country with a small population. There were also intangible psychological implications. Armenia is still in an unresolved state of conflict with Azerbaijan. While Azerbaijan has its own emigration problems, its population stands at a far more robust 8 million. Perhaps most importantly, Armenia's falling population stood as an indicator of the lack of faith its citizens placed in its government. Rather than stay and work toward improving their homeland, Armenians were giving up on it. Emigration stood as a terrible signal to adversaries as well as potential foreign investors. Ultimately, the international community pressured the Armenian government into holding the census and agreed to cover most of the costs. I think that last statement which I bolded, italicized and underlined is the most telling of our people throughout history, unfortunately. I also found some cool older data at http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/amtoc.html Population Characteristics The origins of the Armenian people are obscure. According to ancient Armenian writers, their people descend from Noah's son Japheth. A branch of the Indo-Europeans, the Armenians are linked ethnically to the Phrygians, who migrated from Thrace in southeastern Europe into Asia Minor late in the second millennium B.C., and to the residents of the kingdom of Urartu, with whom the Armenians came into contact around 800 B.C. after arriving in Asia Minor from the West. Although ethnologists disagree about the precise timing and elements of this ethnic combination (and even about the origin of the term Armenian), it is generally agreed that the modern Armenians have been a distinct ethnic group centered in eastern Anatolia since at least 600 B.C. In the nineteenth century, the Armenians were the most urban of the Transcaucasian peoples, but they were also the most dispersed. A merchant middle class was the most powerful social group among the Armenians, although the church and secular intellectuals also provided leadership. Armenians pioneered exploitation of the oil deposits in and around Baku, and the economic growth of the ancient Georgian capital, Tbilisi, was largely an enterprise of Armenian merchants and small industrialists. The massacres and displacements that occurred between 1895 and 1915 removed nearly all the Armenian population in the Turkish part of historical Armenia. In 1965 the Soviet Union estimated that 3.2 million Armenians lived in all its republics. The Turkish census the same year showed only 33,000 Armenians in Turkey, most of them concentrated in the far west in Istanbul. In 1988 Armenia's population declined by 176,000, reversing a trend over the previous decade of average population growth of 1.5 percent per year. According to the 1989 census, the population of Armenia was about 3,288,000, an increase of 8 percent from the 1979 census figure. An official estimate in 1991 put the population at 3,354,000, an increase of 2 percent since 1989. In 1989 Armenians were the eighth largest nationality in the former Soviet Union, totaling 4,627,000. At that time, only about twothirds of the Armenians in the Soviet Union lived in Armenia. Some 11.5 percent lived in Russia, 9.4 percent in Georgia, 8.4 percent in Azerbaijan, and the remaining 4 percent in the other republics. In recent years, Armenian refugees from Azerbaijan, Georgia, Russia, and the Central Asian republics have settled in Armenia, compounding an already severe housing shortage. The number of Armenians living in other countries, primarily France, Iran, Lebanon, Syria, and the United States, has been estimated at between 3 million and 9 million. In 1991 Armenia's population density, 112.6 persons per square kilometer, was second only to that of Moldavia (now Moldova) among the Soviet republics. About 68 percent of the population lives in urban areas and 32 percent in rural areas. In 1990 Armenia's capital, Erevan, had a population of 1.2 million, or about 37 percent of the population of the republic; the second largest city, Gyumri, had 123,000 residents. The twelfth largest city in the former Soviet Union, Erevan is the second largest in the Caucasus region, after Tbilisi. In 1979 Armenian families residing in Armenia averaged 4.5 persons, including an average of 4.3 for urban families and 4.8 average for rural families. This average was larger than those of the Baltic, Georgian, Moldavian, and predominantly Slavic republics of the Soviet Union but less than the family averages of the Soviet Muslim republics. In 1989 average life expectancy was 71.9 years (69.0 years for males and 74.7 years for females). The birth rate was 21.6 live births per 1,000 population; the death rate was 6.0 per 1,000. Data as of March 1994

Well Rostom, I have a list from "USA Armenian LIFE" Magazine. The list is entitled "Armenian Worldwide Population Today" But keep reading cause there's other info too. For the US USA Armenian LIFE has the following: US 1,400,000 Chicago ? Colorado* 1,000 Detroit* 60,000 Florida (state)* 25,000 Boca-Raton, FL* 2,400 Orlando, FL* 850 Tampa, FL* 1200 Fresno* (county) 50,000 Hawaii ? Kansas* 480 LA* 1,000,000 Massachussetts* 120,000 Boston* 60,000 Miami* 1,000 New-York 100,000 Philadelphia, PA* 10,000 Phoenix, AZ* 2,500 Raleigh, NC 500 Richmond, VA 1,200 San Francisco* 40,000 Sacramento ? Seattle* 2,000 Washington DC* 10,000 Watertown, MA* 10,000 US Virgin Islands ? *numbers based on visitors information Wow, that list took longer to type than I thought. Okay, I'm not sure exactly what the asterisk means--the explanation is not very good. Also, I don't know how much stock I'd put in this list for a few reasons. 1. It adds up to almost 1.5 million although it states overall number at 1.4 million. 2. It has numbers for Boca Raton Florida but not Glendale California 3. Elsewhere in the same list it has Turkey's Armenian population at 2,080,000 with the same asterisk and the addition of "(note)". I suppose the note appeared somewhere else in the paper that I don't have. Well, other than this list: I know that the Armenian population of Las Vegas is steadily growing. In fact the Glendale Youth Chapter of the Armenian Church had an article on it in one of their recent newsletters. So you might be able to contact them and get some info. Also, a lot of up and coming communities (read, business opportunities, trying desparately to be the next big and booming city) are marketting to Armenians in the LA area. This includes places with names like Silver Saddle, some are outside of CA and some are in state but all are pretty far from LA. The City of Glendale, however, in their 2002 Quality of Life Report states the following: "The largest portion of the community (63.3%) is categorized as "White" (this includes people of Middle-Eastern descent). The Latino/Hispanic population comprises the second-largest group with (19.7%). The third-largest group (16.2%) is comprised of Asian/Pacific Islanders." As you can see the various departments of the City of Glendale are not known for their academic prowess and general competence. Since we are neither "White", nor Middle-Eastern (which is of course a geographical term, which doesn't even apply to us in its proper usage). Also, "Latino" is a non-sensical term and "Hispanic" has no real value to anyone interested in real study of culture, nationality, ethnicity, genetics etc. Basically, they're morons. But the most accurate figures I've heard are between 50,000 - 80,000. Oh, and another thing, official numbers should be adjusted--I'm not sure by how much, but I'd say +/- 1% to 15%--due to unreported residents, and multiple families living in a single unit. Also, just to be really particular, La Crescenta is actually part of Glendale, Sip. Whoa, that was a lot more than I expected to write. Anyway, because of a lot of Armenians moving around within America, a phenomenon many observers are noticing more and more, I doubt that you'll be able to get any terribly accurate numbers right now. You know, we're always hard to pin down.