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Moscow Top News has a sister site now. It's Russian Sentry. http://www.russiansentry.com Seems most Armenian forums are rather quiet these days, yes. Cannot even find anyone that wants to give input about Javakhk.

What happened to this place? seens the trafficc is way, way down

I understand there will be a write up about Javakhk there soon. Good one on the Armenian artic explorer.

Well the news is the idea, but yes the comments are the best part.

And these guys are very pro-Armenian too! http://www.moscowtopnews.com/

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 "Internal" coup d'etat under preparation in Venezuela to remove President Hugo Rafael Chavez Frias from office "within the next days" VHeadline intelligence sources: Persistent 'chatter' monitored by intelligence services claim that an "internal" coup d'etat is under preparation in Venezuela seeking to remove President Hugo Rafael Chavez Frias from office "within the next days" or by the end of June at the very latest. Confidential and thoroughly credible sources say that what is initially projected as a 'bloodless' coup may inded turn extremely nasty with US mercenaries infiltrated cross-border from Colombia who are said to be aligned with traitors inside Chavez Frias' own administration. How, when and where the coup will take place remains a closely guarded secret and sources within the loyal security services in Venezuela are hoping that a greater public awareness of the plot will help to defuse a situation where the blue touch-paper has already been ignited aimed at the physical removal of the President. It is understood that in the event of a successful coup, vice president Ramon Carrizales would immediately become the titular head of government but it is not yet known who or how many of the current government line-up would be axed or otherwise eliminated. Security tactitians say the coup is seen as "necessary" by elements within the Chavez administration to defuse the threat of military invasion of all or part of Venezuela by United States forces in their relentless quest to secure oil supplies to North America. Venezuela's economic cabinet has been in a state of alert over the last couple of weeks following credible claims that separationists are prepared to surrender to the United States allowing major US oil corporations access to Venezuelan crude reserves in Lake Maracaibo and elsewhere in western Venezuela. http://vheadlinevenezuelanews.blogsp...tat-under.html

USA launches new campaign against Cuba 22.05.2008 Source: URL: http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnist...6-usacampcuba-0 Another intrusive and hypocritical campaign by Washington, a fine example of the arrogance, belligerance and chauvinism which constitute the ABC of its international relations. Under a cloak of “solidarity”, Washington tries to plant the tentacles of its imperialistic domination. The campaign “Solidarity with Cuba”, launched yesterday by Washington, is an example of the cynicism and interference which have been the basis of this murderous regime for decades. The campaign “Solidarity” includes, as it is to be expected, references to the “democratization” of the Isle. By “democratization”, read “demonization”. The “democratization” of the United States of America, we have already seen in Iraq, where Freedom and Democracy took the lives of hundreds of thousands of innocent people, where in the name of Freedom and Democracy, they dropped cluster bombs on residential areas, where Freedom and Democracy saw the contents of Baghdad’s museums written on inventories in Washington, before the “war” began, by the supporters of the White House who wished to go shopping without paying. Baghdad, where Freedom and Democracy destroyed so many homes, burning families alive, making laughing children orphans, leaving healthy children para- or tetraplegic, choosing as military targets civilian structures. Freedom and Democracy, distributing billionaire contracts without tender. Freedom and Democracy, buzz words vomited forth for easy digestion by a population deliberately kept ignorant and uneducated by the clique of corporative elitists who gravitate around the White House, dictating its internal and external policy, at the cost of the noble precepts of the Founding Fathers. While their leaders grow fatter. While the prices of basic necessities spiral out of the reach of more and more of the country’s citizens. While growing millions in the world outside die of starvation, in the year 2008. But Havana does not need this Freedom and Democracy; the Cubans have their own democratic institutions. The current political system was not imposed from above, but rather, chosen freely in a public referendum in 1976. Every two years, the delegates to the Municipal Assemblies are chosen by a free and fair open democratic vote. Every five years, the delegates to the Provincial Assemblies and the National Assembly of People’s Power (Parliament) are chosen in the same way. The voting process is secret, direct, respects the majority will and the Communist Party neither proposes candidates, nor does it support any candidate, nor does it intervene directly in the process. Has Washington’s free and democratic media ever informed anyone of these details? Has it ever informed its public, who live in a regime so free and democratic that they cannot even travel freely and democratically to Cuba to spend some paradisiacal holidays, of the humanitarian aid that the Republic of Cuba renders around the world in developing countries, in the areas of medicine and healthcare and education, without any economic interest in return? So let the leaders of the United States of America, when they deliver their puerile, hollow and empty speeches and launch their Day of Solidarity with Cuba, remember the great ethical and moral stain on this Isle, the enormous outrage against human rights in the Antilles and the only blow against Freedom and Democracy in Cuba – the Guantanamo Bay concentration camp, property of the United States of America, the stage for scenes of torture and illegal incarceration without due legal process on a scale unseen since the Inquisition. If this is the Freedom and Democracy that the United States of America wishes to instal in Cuba, then thanks – but no thanks. The naked truth is that the Cuban Revolution is the fruit of the sovereign will of the Cuban People; Cuba protects and does not violate human rights, it is an example of resistence and international solidarity and the victim of the cruellest and most aggressive imperialist policies of the USA. Timothy BANCROFT-HINCHEY PRAVDA.Ru

What we're talking about is HISTORICAL AND PROVABLE FACTS, NOT CONSPIRACY THEORIES. We are pointing fingers at ANYONE RESPONSIBLE.........why the sensitivity to ONLY ONE PARTICULAR GROUP?????????????? Try attacking the message......not the messenger, but of course you can't do that, can you? You never were able to do that and you still can't. You must have listened to the interview or read the book. Try to attack one of facts that he states..like the Amalekites for example. Tell us it's a conspiracy theory and I will provide you the facts and you try and counter it with FACTS and not just "Because I say bla bla bla.:" Bring FACTS or articles. NO "Because I say so" BS. We are naming all...turks, kurds, germans, english whoever. Hey, Ann Frankenstein still wants to meet you. I was just talking to him and he said he would love to meet you unless you are still afraid of course. Aratta-Kingdom. My contacts are in Montreal not Los Angeles.

US Jewish group retracts stance on Armenian 'genocide' AFP August 24, 2007 ANKARA -- A prominent US Jewish advocacy group has retracted its decision to call the mass killings of Armenians under the Ottoman Empire a genocide, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said Friday. "The ADL [Anti-Defamation League] has sent us a statement sharing our sensitivity on this issue," Erdogan was quoted by the Anatolia news agency as saying. "With this statement, they have retracted their previous erroneous step." The ADL unleashed anger in Turkey when it said in a written statement Tuesday that it had changed its position on the Armenian massacres after consultations with experts. But in a separate statement on Thursday the group was more circumspect on the World War I events. "Although independent scholars may have reached a consensus about the genocide, in an effort to help accomplish the reconciliation [between Turkey and Armenia], there is room for further dispassionate scholarly examination of the details of those dark and terrible days," the second statement read. The ADL move sparked concerns, here, that Ankara may be losing the support of the powerful Jewish lobby in the United States, against efforts, there, to have the killings recognized as genocide, and pass a resolution to that effect from the Congress. Israel, Turkey's main regional ally, was quick to respond to prevent a fallout in bilateral ties. Israeli President Shimon Peres phoned Erdogan Thursday to assure him of Israel's desire to maintain close bilateral ties. On Wednesday, the Israeli embassy, here, said the Jewish state acknowledges the "horrible events" and the "terrible suffering" the Armenians endured, but urged Jews not to take sides. The Turkish press said Turkey had asked Israel to convince the Jewish lobby in the United States to support Turkey in its efforts to block congressional moves to recognize the killings as genocide. Turkey categorically rejects Armenian claims that 1.5 million of their kinsmen died in systematic deportations and killings during 1915 to 1918, as the Ottoman Empire was breaking up. http://www.metimes.com/storyview.php?Story...24-070315-9538r

I am sorry denialchuks, liars, mimimizers, the zarehs and winstons and all apologists for the jews......... But the OFFICIAL position of Hai Tad will soon be coming out endorsing this information about the jewish involvement in the Armenian Genocide. --------- A Notice to Armenian Forums The Head of the Montreal Hai Tad has recently stated that the since the Christopher Bjerkines book and video that we have all seen, the lid is now off and the doors are wide open to investigate further the jewish invovlement in the Armenian Genocide without people being labeled Nazis, racists, antisemites or whatever. In regards to the lid being off...you know it, I know it and everyone knows it and everyone who has been defending the jews and denying the jewish invovement and trying to suppress any and all information in those regards, such as 1.5, are in a major panic now that they know the lid is off and they are scrambling to discredit this Christopher Bjerkines with no scholarly or credible argument to counter the man's claims. Only the usual insults, slander and defamation are being used to discredit the man. The Head of the Montreal Chapter of the Hai Tad has said that the next book to come out on the subject will be entitled "the jewish responsibility in the Armenian Genocide." So who are you going to trust, Hai Tad or some monkey with a Germanic sounding last name pretending to be Armenian??

Sorry, but I agree 100% with Shahan Araradian about who is brainwashed around here. You have nothing but an extremely one dimensional "opinion" as opposed to the facts you have been presented with, which are more than mere opinions.

That is absolutely hilarious coming from you of all people.

You only keep them around for pets. This place doesn't get pet turks too often.

Why are they lumping that filthy, dirty chechen terrorist lover with Hrant Dink? What an insult to him to be lumped with that TRASH. A protest should have been organized against that. I hope that Armenians did not participate. After all, chechens fought against Armenians in Nagorno Karabakh.

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Don't believe anything Litvinenko says. He was working for Berezovsky and the Chechens as well as israel.

Urgent action required On March 29, 2007 the University of Toronto is hosting a lecture entitled "Why did the Ottomans Relocate the Armenians?" organized by the Anatolian Turkish Association featuring Dr. Justin McCarthy, a notorious denier of the Armenian Genocide. On March 22, 2007 members of the Armenian Student's Association and Armen Karo will be meeting with Student Affairs at U of T to request that the University not provide a platform for Genocide deniers. The Armenian National Committee of Toronto is requesting that you show your support and complete the ANC T action alert condemning attempts to propagate hatred and urge the University of Toronto to refrain from providing a forum for Genocide deniers. Click on this link to complete the action alert www.armenian.ca : http://www.armenian.ca Published by the Armenian National Committee of Toronto 45 Hallcrown Place, Toronto, Ontario M2J 4Y4 Tel: (416) 491-2900, Fax: (416) 491-2211, E-mail: anct@armenian.ca : > Web: www.armenian.ca : http://www.armenian.ca/ WARNING : The information in this e-mail and in any attachments is intended for the above-mentioned addressees only. It may contain privileged or confidential information the review, dissemination or disclosure of which is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail by error, please destroy it. In this case, you are not authorized to disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message or any part of it. Thank you. Don't use their two standards letters, the language is inappropriate and screwed up send the one below that also includes the demand to put him in jail: Dear Sir: I am writing to express my profound dismay over a lecture organized by the Anatolian Turkish Association at the University of Toronto scheduled for March 29th 2007 by Dr. Justin McCarthy entitled "Why did the Ottomans Relocate the Armenians?" (http://ata.sa.utoronto.ca/). McCarthy is a well-known denier of the Armenian Genocide. Allowing such a denier on campus would be similar to providing a platform for a Holocaust denier to voice their “opinions” at a reputable university. The incontestable historical truth of the Armenian Genocide is by no means subject to debate. By providing a forum for genocide deniers, you are legitimizing the Turkish government's shameful campaign of denial and encouraging a culture of hate to permeate throughout campus. Additionally, his writings also violate Canadian law against publishing and distributing hate propaganda. The man should immediately be placed under arrest. A precedent for such action already exists in the case of Ernst Zundel. Hate speech must not find protection in the academic communities of this country. A person's right to speak must be balanced against another person's right not to be the target of hateful speech. I want to ensure that the University of Toronto will not provide an academic platform to anyone who would peddle in hate and denial. The Armenian Students Association (ASA) will be meeting with Students Affairs to discuss this issue. I am requesting that you support the ASA and cancel this attempt to propagate hatred and condone genocide denial. Genocide denial is a vicious obscenity and the leading edge of fostering hate and racism. The Armenian Genocide has been officially identified in Canada as ‘an historically recognized act of genocide’ and your action in this case will send a critical message that Genocide denial is unacceptable in Canada. I appreciate your consideration of my views and would welcome a response addressing my concerns at the earliest convenience. If you would like to discuss this further, a member of the Armenian National Committee of Toronto can be reached at ANCT@Armenian.ca.

Yeah, right. Discussion of the Armenian Genocide bill in US Congress may be postponed till 2008 10.03.2007 14:05 Marlena Hovsepyan "Radiolur" It is possible that the Armenian Genocide bill will not be included in the agenda of the US House of Representatives by April 24. Moreover, editor of the California Courier Harut Sasounsin told `Radiolur' that the discussions may be postponed by 2008. Why? Currently the Armenian Genocide bill is being discussed in the House Foreign Relations Committee, after which it will be submitted to the vote of the members of the House of Representatives. However, Chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee Tom Lantos may prevent the vote on the Armenian resolution. Ethnic Jew Tom Lantos, who escaped the Holocaust, had to be very sensitive to a genocide perpetrated against another people. However, he is known for his pro-Turkish position and has always been voting against the Armenian bill. The vote two years ago was not an exception, either. Then member of the Committee Lantos voted for the pro-Armenian documentl only in order to punish Turkey. He said that Turkey rejected the attack of the American Army on Iraq from the Turkish side. `To teach a good lesson to Turkey I must say `yes' to the Armenian bill,' Harut Sasounian quotes Lantos as saying. But now the situation is different: during his visit to Washington in February Turkish Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul met with Tom Lantos and threatening to jeopardize the interests of Israel, made him promise to prevent the adoption of the resolution. It's worth mentioning that only the Chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee is eligible to decide the terms of discussion of this or that bill. Harut Sasounian says only late March it will become clear whether this information reported by Turkish sources is true or not. Despite everything, it is obvious that the Turkish side is taking every effort to prevent the voting on the bill. The editor-in-chief of the California Courier is worried that the discussion of the resolution may be delayed until next year. The reason is the presidential and parliamentary elections expected in Turkey in 2007, and the objective of the Turkish authorities is to refrain from disappointing the electorate preceding the elections. `That is why they are taking extreme steps by threatening to both Israel and the United States,' says Harut Sasounian. It is logical that the Turkish passions towards the Armenian Genocide bill will calm down after the elections. The importance of this bill should not be exaggerated, Harut Sasounian says. According to him, in reality its importance is not that big, since the Congress has already adopted two similar resolutions. `It should not be perceived as a question of life and death. In case the resolution is adopted, the Genocide will be recognized. The Genocide has been recognized long ago, it will just be another mark,' Mr. Sasounian told ` Radiolur.' http://groong.usc.edu/news/msg180995.html So whose interests is Lantos looking out for? Obviously it's israel's and no one else's.

The ANC says that Lantos is a pro-turkish AG denier and you deny it/try to hide it. So who is lying? Better question, WHY???

ANC Confronts Rep. Lantos on Denial of The Armenian Genocide May 21, 2002 Northern California Congressman—a Holocaust survivor—has taken a leading role in denying the first Genocide of the 20th century LOS ANGELES—Representatives of the Armenian National Committee of America, during meetings in Washington and in his northern California District Office, have challenged Congressman Tom Lantos (D-Calif.) to abandon his policy of Armenian Genocide denial. "Congressman's Senior Policy Advisor Dr. Kay King explained that Rep. Lantos' opposition to Congressional recognition of the Armenian Genocide was based on national security grounds." "Lantos took a leading role in the 106th Congress in attempting to block passage of legislation recognizing the Armenian Genocide. As a senior member of the House International Relations Committee, which had jurisdiction over the Armenian Genocide Resolution (H.R. 596), Lantos worked feverishly to strike all mention of the word genocide from the legislation. Despite his best efforts, Lantos failed to secure passage of an amendment that would have struck the word genocide from the bill." "We are particularly concerned that you inferred that the Armenian Genocide resolution should be defeated for fear that America's ally, the Republic of Turkey, would be offended. Specifically, during committee consideration of the bill you remarked, "This legislation at this moment in US-Turkish relations is singularly counterproductive to our national interest." Is this your litmus test for acknowledging crimes against humanity?" "We are also concerned that there may be other reasons - which you did not state - for your opposition to US recognition of the Armenian Genocide. Some have suggested that your newfound denial of the Armenian Genocide may be unrelated to our country, but of concern to a third party." http://www.asbarez.com/aol/2002/020521.htm#n1 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lantos proposal Second Markup of H.Res.398 Thursday, September 28 2000 Opponents of H.Res.398 Force a Delay of Committee's Vote on the Measure "The Chairman ruled out of order an amendment by Rep. Lantos, who is a holocaust survivor, to strike any mention of the Armenian Genocide and substitute general language on "man's inhumanity to man." http://groong.usc.edu/hres398/#thirdmarkup

Lantos, until lately, has always been one of turkey's strongest jewish supporters. But they pissed him off when they refused to allow US troops to use turkey for the Iraq war so the last time he voted against them which was seen as a real turn-around for him. Whether or not his pro-turkish sentiments are gone remains to be seen, but I rather doubt it.

Hate, hate, hate bla bla bla. How ridiculous you sound. Anyway, it was a mistake for Armenians to try to mimick the jews, who quite the opposite, have something to hide.

You have a URL for this?

No, ru?? No, not A LOT, but a FEW and they have not done EVERYTHING in their power either, as I stated many times, I don't see them making their lobbies stop or the state of israel stop what they're doing, so NO they have not done everything in their power. BTW, since when is the truth FILTH??? Ad hominems and name calling don't make your case at all. I now the names, I know the cirucmstances entirely. I am quite informed, unlike you. So where have you been the last ten years other than hiding your head in the sand and chasing after meaningless bones they throw your way? I have...and I have also figured YOU out too.

Personally, I think it's very rare for a woman to do well in a leadership/politcal role. If you have ever worked for a woman boss/supervisor, you know what I mean. God save us from women bosses and supervisors. Sorry ladies.