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This is really out there but take a look ... "Billy" Eduard Albert Meier According to him Armenians were one of 3 ancient allien civilizations here on earth, They are still around "Pleiadeans/Plejarens" Check it out ! Atleast you might get a laugh or two !!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Meier http://en.allexperts.com/e/b/bi/billy_meier.htm http://en.allexperts.com/e/h/hi/history_of_armenia.htm

Wow ! This is very good info indeed...

I wonder which is the official version our historians claim to be valid, What was the orgins of Armens? Is it possible Krikor Losavoritch erased any solid evidence to our past? I hope it's not the case... Christianty was cultural suicide in my opinion not to say I'm not a beliver ! We claim to be desedents of Noah and Armenia was rebirth of modern civilization but how much of it is crediable, History is revised from different points of view to enhance or dispute one's existence... Armenians need to clear the fog once in for all and vigoursley hold on to ancestrial legacy which we embrace without hesitation.

Shnor agal em... I applaud your efforts to share your knoweldge with us . I agree our forfathers should have done better records keeping and maped Armenia's borders with deligence. History is very crucial in my opinion and to let it unchalleged to lies or revisionism is not justified. For example and you might not agree Palisitian historians challenge the Jews and funny thing is they have archives to claim validity, Offcourse Israel being stronger and media outlets to help their cause squashed Palistinian idendity. They claim other tribes where their ancient enemies and Arabs never validated their version... Farce ! So, Let's protect Armenian History and never let others to be the experts when it comes to Armenia.

Thanks, Ararat Arev the info you provided was outstanding !

Thanks, I appreaciate Armenian history very much so... I came back to these forums to brush up on my Armenian roots & our rich culture, I sure am glad to do so. Please carry on, I'm taking notes... Armenians answer the call !

Ok ... I assumed Armenians were supportive of Alexanders conquests ? He left Armenia alone because we caused him no alarm unlike the Persian empire which he felt as a threat. Where the Armenians in the Persian army came to play ? And is there proof of it ? I honestly don't recall that chapter...

LoL, Indeed... Where did I mention Alexander set foot in Armenia ? I said he passed by or went around it... I mentioned him because there was a episode some time ago about him and showed A map of the area which this discussion is evolving about. I don't disagree with historical facts or proof, However I get erked when I see clear misrepresentations of it. Hope this clears things up for you ...

I'm in concert offcourse... We have other sources to validate all . What we need is exposure in the media outlets not to discredit any link to us... Calling on others to validate our history is redundent if I may say it with sarcasm. We are Armenian, We are not imaginary nor require historians to reject any reference to Urartu - Nairi ... We changed, evolved, adapted, assimilated others in to our cultures and exchange treaties with other kingdoms or empires. We don't lack proof only because evidence still remains Armenians were unique to Sevan and Ararat. Old Hollywood movies for example are a good start to look for this revisionsim thats going on, They show Armenia as Asia Minor . Today it's Turkey or present day Turkey. Do you realise the ramifications to a simple atlas in a time period purged of vital crucial information? If Alexander passed by Armenia... How come they show it as Anatolia ? that's bad information and if it continues people will buy it as such, It's an uphill battle to correct the damage that's being done . We can't stand idle to it, Stand firm and demand recognition of Armenian no matter how it's being utilized, I guarantee people in parts of the US still don't have a clue about us. They watch television to see some schmuck with the name of goldstein producing a documentry show claiming ancient ruins of Ani as Turkish !!

I disagree... To disconnect from parts of history is dangerous, We should own it ... Proof is valid we evolved from other cultures around us as well, We were stronger at the times hence we remain today they don't ! Hitties are a perfect example I suppose. Turks use propaganda to claim Armenians were roaming around the area so we have no valid claims on historical Armenia... What's really wrong with that assult on historical facts is that Armenian kingdoms were landlords of easten Anatolia during those periods. History channel or any other network shows Asia Minor as Anatolia during the time Armenia had Kingdoms ! Should we not focus on it instead ? We must correct any denial of old Armenia on all documenteries to show it as Armenia... Not erasing the name. Let's challenge them on facts alone and prove Armenia was the name at times . Expose misrepresantations of history and demand corrections to be made without further delay.

Ok, So your ready for ridicule... History is my proof, Your arguments are not worthy of sarcasm from me. They are just not valid to require such effort. Listen every bit of recorded history gets examined to fight revisionisary arguments and must be validated by international tribunals. This has been established allready and the majority says Turks lack burden of proof to deny all attrocities. Guilty as charged ! Now, Diaspora Armenians are the same indeed, Why would you ask a silly question in the first place? Diaspora will live indefinitely hope this does not disapoint too much

Armenians integrate !? What planet are you really from? We have for centuries PAL ! Are you in denial of our historical existance as well ? Since your goverment purges information from your schools & text books. Here is reality for you to digest we were on the map long before your nomadic tribes attacked... As for Armenians from the diaspora we are all the same offcourse, All children & grandchildren of survivors from genocide perpetrated by your Ottoman forfathers, Assimilation rate is less what your goverment wishes for and that really erks them I suppose. We are few, We are united and proud to be your pain in the ARSE ! Any more questions?

As if yours have any validity... Listen your on a spiral loop in a fact finding mission. Your pefectly aware of your forefathers dastartdly deeds, I think your ready to get further sucked in to the truth VORTEX ! Armenians answer the call !

Yes, does it have feathers like you? We have fun plucking your feathers time after time ! Your on check, It's open season for turkeys... Boys put the vodka on ice, It's time for a feast.

Wow ! I know the effects of smoking hasish what it does to the brain... Ulan esek Zurderer can you understand the meaning of war by proxy? Your out of touch with reality, It's not a numbers game anymore. It's global now and your not invited to the party. We are not idle, We are not the same Armenians your forfathers duped into devastation, further more your feeble threats are futile. Why do I even consider to respond to a essek is strange... I guess it's cheap entertainment eh ?

It's very possible to repatriate and follow the Jewish example, they had great success don't you agree? We were dispersed across against our will, Forced to migrate !

Indeed, very true and that can change offcourse with solid leadership. It's always true how empires rise only to fall hard... Turks on the other hand are amazing, They evolve like lab rats! Turokomen, Mangol, Seljuck all same ka-ka ... let's hope they get eradicated sooner then later !

We should counter any response as slander to our fallen martyrs, We must collectively supply facts & bombart them with truths, let them choke on their own venom. In retaliation, Exploit them at the source and publicly expose all their dirty deeds, Humilatiation is well deserved. We are cabable to trace and deny their servers to accomplish such acts of barbarism... Let's show them what we can do collectivley !

What about the jerusalem Armenians? They were Armenians before the Genocide in the Armenian quarter since the time of crusades? If I were to guess western right ? My fathers side dates back several centuries back... He left to Jordan then to Lebanon and finally to US. One thing about Armenians we always seek prosperity and can't seem to settle down anywhere, I guess sooner or later there is going to be a gathering

Very well done... Merci encore! Viva le France ! I can honestly say the true allies of our Armenia.

As it stands Azeri oil is allready sold... And money can't buy security or assurance from the west, Big brother Putin has the west at a check mate, And for the Turkish Air Force they have antique f-15's which are in disrepair and no support from the US to provide replacment parts. Even Israel will not supply replacment parts because of the fanatical muslims gaining momentem with political uproars. US dictates policy and no such green light will be given, Turks are closet muslims and have distrust for Jews, That's the general perception anyway. The Greek Air Force always toys with Turkish air space and sends them scattering for the nearset landing zone without any worries. Just emagine the superior Mig's over your Turkish air space taking out your cummunications and lifelines to start. We are Warriors & allways been, You don't have the heart or christian conscripts to fight your wars any more... That was then ... This is for keeps ! Enough of your barbaric nonsense better dig a hole and crawl in it. Armenians learned a valueable lesson which was costly and turbulant but they evolved against all the odds, What is best for Turkey is to never provoke a sleeping Lion. Your numbers are easy to divide & subtract ! Just ask your politicians to keep kissing ARSE ! they are so good at it... Perhaps it's time to kiss some Armenian one's too, Or we let the Kurds loose on you then Greeks will march to Istanbul ! So, If that's not enough to worry your paranoid sorry Arse can you spell Nuclear !? You see it's all or nothing don't under estimate Armenians or their desire for liberty , freedom & selfreliance.

I've been duped by all microsoft revisions since Win 95 ... I'll rather be in the dark ages ! If IBM only pursued Warped 7.0 back in the day OS platforms could have evolved sooner & cheaper. I can't comment on Vista yet but someone here wrote buying a new PC with prebundled version sounds cost effective to me.

Ok, If it's the only option, Let's move on and lock & load highlanders ! Element of suprise should be considered and remove all air superemacy. Attack Turkey & their Azeri puppets show the World Armenia won't back down from threats of hostility or verbal harrasments, The Western Powers regret not finishing the job in WWI and it's time we gave them a reason to make good on their blunder. If Turkey lacks reality of justice It's our divine duty to render punishment & we must leave our foot imprints on their ARSE ! It can be done... We have the power to cause mass hysteria amongs them, They forget the few Armenians who fought them only shamed them into retreat, We all know of the common cowards amongs us, Them Turks ! The brave Turk only attacks the weak, elderly, young & rapes women and their young girls. Our vengence is just, Denials of amends brings us to this critical juction. They pursue War instead of peace, They can extend an olive branch but choose barbarism instead I guess they never change, go figure ... Even a jackass can be more civilized then a common Turko ! It's time... Stop dreaming ...

Armenia will survive but will it sacrifice freedom? In my opinion unity is void... We fight a good battle but somehow fail to win a war. We have many advantages we can exercise and play dirty politics as well, This will bring us some respect and serious change about Armenian policy from non supportive nations who dangle a carrot only to dissapoint us later. No more excuses ! We can eradicate the Turkish propaganda machine once in for all and redicule their allies at will IE: State of Israel ! Here is a riddle for begginers they are a key to our success, " If you can't beat them ... Then join them ... " Use your talents Armenians ! The facts are overwhelming ... They slander us without mercy and publicly spat on our cross ! It's called a media blitz and that's how you let other nations fight wars in your defence. My fellow Armenians we must learn to agree to disagree, No matter what the outcome it's all or nothing ! Protect eachother at any cost because we are poetic warriors and true patriots of Armenia. Perhaps this my help. Let's implement a standerd protocol to rebuff these blood thirsty genocidal , fanatical , subhumans from causing any more damage to our divine existence. Start challenging them head on, Use the American court system to punish their filty lies, Use any & all historical archives without fear even challenge the entire nation of Turkey to make Amends at United Nations for Genocide, File lawsuits at whomever questions the plight of Armenians, Cover the Globe... I'll bet it yield some fruitful results just ask Geragosian, Mark & others who vigerously fought every legal challenge, I can go on ... But only one or few can't stand firm to tyranny risen from a nations devastation... Unity or Assimilation whats your choice ??

Yeah your so right. Thank God , WoW ! The performance was entertaining indeed... I laughed for an hour atleast thanks to DVR's It's archived for good. This character was funny & twisted , Or just out there ... I honestly think suffering from chemical inbalance ...