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Arpa this discussion is not about us taking care of our problems. IT's about an individual on this post who believes that Armenians have no connection with the rest of civilization, who thinks we are such a UNIQUE "race", (and I laugh when he uses this word), that perhaps Armenians just fell out of the air and came to be. Its about someone who completely dismisses humanity out of his self serving natioanlism; Someone who has the nerve to say how Armenian one is and is not, who has the ABSOLUTE nerve to dictate to others that they have lost the "privelage", (i laugh again at his word usage) to be Armenian. The reason the topic seems diverted is due to this individuals inability to accept that we as Armenians have ties to other parts of the world, that our culture is attributed to the development of others and vica versa. and YES, this includes parts of the world where so called 'sevs' are populated, hence the opening topic of this dicussion... Remeber?

okay... okay Vigil, just calm down. I think there's more to life than the silly stuff you say.... Excuse me, I need y to enjoy the rest of my Sunday

First of all, I WAS TALKING TO KOKO , regarding the opening of your comment, not you. WHen did I say 'there is only one human race. And, you keep proving your ignorance over and over.... have you heard of the holocaust, what happen in the former Yugoslavia, in Rwanda, ... I mean the list goes on. YOu think the Jews are controlling the world do you... And that's why people should think the Armenians are the only one's to have suffered genocide You sound like a paranoid soul

Are you kidding Vigil. You have the nerve (you are on the hollier than thou horse by the way) to tell people how Armenian they are or not, you think you have the right to justify other peoples existence, including other Arme nians,and then YOU ASK THE QUESTION WHO HAVE I OFFENDED?? What a nerve ....

Vigil I am insulting you. You do a good job of that yourself. Can you hear yourself talk??? The ideologies that come from the distorted mind you have, of the world are absurd. To use words like 'mongrelesque' shows your ignorance... To call 'Americans' a race, shows you are not that you are not that learned and inteligent after all.

KOKO, I VERY WELL KNOW OUR HISTORY, I AM AFTER ALL FULL-BLOODED ARMENIAN (FOR VIGIL'S INFORMATION)

Vigil, you are not only ridiculous, the almost propaganda you spew is offensive and disgusting. YOu are self serving and self-righteous... If you do not understand the concept that the word 'race' is a man-made word and has absolutely no scientific backing... you are incredibly misguided and ignorant. Your near propoganda found here is not because you are so intelligent, it derives from you ignorance, lack of education, narrow-mindedness and self righteousness.

Um Vigil, I believe you had a comment about ' nobody has dared faced what Armenians have faced' YOu think WE are the only group of peoples who have encountered Genocide.... YOu are ridiculous. And for all of you who talk about 'race' you should do some research on that topic.

Vigil, I'm surprised your head hasnt exploded yet

Wow Vigil, you are not very Religious you say. .. And you call yourself an Armenian?

15levels here are some sites you can read up on the subject. How do you ask the question,'how did Christianity get from Armenian to Ethiopia?" ... And dont tell me because we were the first nation to adopt Christianity... http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/acet/hd_acet.htm http://www.meridianmagazine.com/ideas/040126ethiopia.html http://philtar.ucsm.ac.uk/encyclopedia/chr...ly/ethorth.html

Vigil, Have you ever heard about the Holocaust. Did those people dare to face what happened then?????????????????????? you are ridiculous. DO you live in North America??????????????????

Right Vigil.... Armenians just fell out the air. YOU are RIDICULOUS

Mx5, FYI, Being a nationalist by definition says that you think your own kind are better over others, giving them preference over others in any case. When you were 15 yrs old, you didnt fall in love with every beautifyl girl you met, that was your hormones. And your father telling you dont confuse between love and marriage, exactly proves my point of Armenian marrying Armenian for the sake of it. You are truly LUCKY to have met someone and marry them in months time, and fall in love. That is NOT the norm. And Vigil, to say that 'there is a concequence to every decision made in life' doesnt make sense. And for you to say that one has nothing to preserve because their kids are part Armenian (or whatever) and part something else is a horrific comment. Preserving LIFE is what the Armenian gentlemen who married non-Armenian will be doing. Are you telling him that his children's life will be of no value. You do you think you are? Further, marrying non-Armenian does not prove that you love yourself as an Armenian any less. If you let other people justify who YOU are as an individual, you have some issues. One can teach there part Armenian kids about history, to speak Armenian, Read Armenian, eat Armenian and YES baptize them Armenian Orthodox. THATS how one can preserve the "Armenianess" of his or her child. And that child can take those things with them in life and using your word 'maintain' their Armenian heritage. and just because you dont marry into your culture DOES not mean that you are not proud of who you are. .. you are ridiculous. and how do you think our 4000 years of history came about. Through pure Armenians. Get Real. Maybe YOU would lose your identity if you were to marry a non-Armenian, sounds like a phobia to me from all your comments. And yes, it takes two to procreate, but you dont lose 50% of your identity, how is that possible. What happens is a childs life is enriched by having an opportunity to grow up in a loving hope, with two well-rounded parents, who know who they , where they came from, who have common values and ideals, and will pass this on to their kids. If one marries a non-Armenian, why wouldn't they try to perserve their culture through there kids, even being part Armenian. THe child WOULD BE BORN with Armenian blood. Just because its only half , are you saying the child has no right to learn about Armenian culture, when in they ARE Armenian. Again, who gives you the right to dictate who is Armenian and who is not. And I do not live in the phobia stricken bubble you live in

Vigil, I completely disagree with your ideology. I AM proud to be an Armenian, but not nationalistic. Armenians are not better or superior to any other group of people on this earth. Armenians see themselves so much that they end up dividing amongst themselves. Its ridiculous. Taking steps to preserve nationality is not the only thing that defines a nationalist. You are ludicrous to say that if an Armenian marrys outside that they are no longer Armenian. I am not sure yet where you get the justification to dictate such a statement. In your post you made A LOT of generalizations, even though I admit myself that it's hard not to do so. Nothing I or any other Armenian out there does can take away their Identity... Not marrying outside, not experiencing, enjoying and respecting other cultures along with their own, not anything. Sorry you live in such a bubble.

I am an Armenian, and proud, but in no way a nationalist. I believe people are free to choose who they want to be with, and yes that includes Armenians. If you marry an Odar, your culture maybe lost through your kids and their kids. Its inevitable, however I've notice this forum does a really good job of deciphering who may be 1/16 the Armenian . To say that the assimilation of Armenians as a whole is inevitable because of Armenians marrying odars, I think is a huge stretch of the imagination. It depends on the individual, with what ideals he/she was brought up, to what environment he/she was exposed to, and how they shaped as a free-thinking individual. THere are Armenians out there, esp women, who marry just for the sake of getting married (to an Armenian). Some of them havnt even been a relationship before in order to learn and understand what being in a relationship entails. I know of girls who have been married under the age of 20 for God knows what reason. Having things in common with your partner is number one. BUT that doesnt mean that two Armenians belong with eachother because they're Armenian. I think all Armenians are free to chose whom ever they want to be with. Love and understanding are based on Trust and communication. Hey, if you live, eat and breath for the Armenian cause, find an Armenian and have lots of kids, to make up for the ones we lost. But if you find love else where, so be it.

.... because sex sells Sip. C'mon, everybody know that

Gamavor, Nefertiti was a beautiful Queen, and they say powerful too. Too the point that she was maybe even hated. Discovery put out a recent documentary on Nefertiti, and one Egyptologist who thinks she may have found her tomb, with her inside. Her face was around the mouth area was completely smashed in, signifying her inability to reach the afterlife, the whole point of their belief system.

As far as I've read and seen from documentaries, Nefertiti's origins are a mystery. Egyptologists have said that they are not sure where she was from, and they actually dont know much about her at all. The only reference to her origins I've heard about is that she may have been from the area which is now Syria.

Hey guys, is there something wrong with you? Does eveybody in this world have to be Armenian?? Where do you get proof that Ron Jeremy is Armenian, or half? And what difference would it make anyway .... strange