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Donmes like you were very cruel to Armenians and betrayed them to their chosen masters (Turks in the past, treasonous Americans now). I thought this forum was for ARMENIANS; not UNCLE TOMs like you. Are you capable of saying something intelligent for once instead of spewing forth ad hominems like there's no tomorrow?

Snippet: "Bloomberg found that “reverse diversification” boosted global demand for long-term U.S. financial assets to a record as the European fiscal crisis may be beginning to translate into increased demand for dollar assets. Purchases of equities, notes and bonds totaled $140.5 billion in March, more than double economists’ projections, after net buying of $47.1 billion in February, the Treasury Department said today. Treasury purchases rose by the most since June as China, the largest lender to the U.S., added to its holdings for the first time since September.” Yes, that’s the same China that “stopped buying such assets and started ‘dumping’ them” that you read about recently in some…publications. Furthermore: 1) the rise in demand for Treasuries came even as yields rose across the yield curve in March. 2) Demand at Treasury auctions from indirect bidders rose in April. 3) Treasury holdings by China rose 2 percent in March to $895.2 billion, the biggest increase since July. 4) Japan, the second-largest holder, increased its holdings by $16.4 billion to $784.9 billion in March. Holdings in the U.K. gained $45.5 billion to $279 billion, the fifth straight monthly increase. The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (you know, the people who were supposed to adopt the gold ‘dinar’ and settle everything in anything but dollars) increased its position by $10.7 billion to $229.5 billion. What do these supposedly soured-on-the-US buyers know that we do not? Nothing more special than what the US market really is, and is already known by many. Namely, the deepest, most liquid one in existence, enhanced by a stable democracy infused with the rule of law. As such, the trend is set to continue." COMMENT: In case you needed proof that the world has really gone insane or that we're all really Americans now! Let's see...both the Chinese and the Arabs are "investing" in the debt(!) of a bankrupt nation whose government taxes its people so that it can transfer their wealth to the bankers who'd already stolen it from them! Welcome to the brave new world!

I see a so-called Armenian like this every few seconds in Glendale...and I have been living in and around Glendale for about 10 years. Yeah...that's a LOT of so-called Armenians just like this one.

Yet Americans keep voting for Democrats and Republicans knowing that they represent USA INC. and NOT the people of the United States of America. (Inescapable) conclusion: the majority of Americans are a problem for themselves and for the rest of the human race -- which includes a few Armenians who have not been "Americanized" and thus lost their humanity.

When the wolves start attacking each other you know that the game is over. The chickens are coming home to roost.

Arpa, I sincerely believe that most Armenians are like you and think like you. That's why we are where we are. That's why even the grandchildren of slaves who are in bed with the Turks can lie to us and betray us and all we'll do is kiss their behind for the privilege. As for the rest; have a nice trip on the U.S.A. Titanic all the way down to the bottom of the ocean since that's what you want.

This week the world has seen that the emperor has no clothes. Both in Europe and the US, the Establishment (the bankers and their governments which we are granted the privilege of voting for) or the System has been exposed as a gigantic fraud. When the problem is debt itself, you cannot fix it with further issuance of debt (in our name and our children's name to boot!). You can't cure the disease with the disease itself. That is clearly what the Europeans attempted to do last week and it didn't work. They pledged to create one trillion of their currency the Euro in order to protect their financial system, and the world (including the European citizens themselves) didn't buy it even for one day! Their currency is rapidly losing value. The dollar and our paper assets are next in line. The greatest financial and political calamity that we'll have known will be the result. Before year's end. Within weeks I'd say.

No, you're wrong about that. It was President Woodrow Wilson. Below is a quote from Answers.com (wiki.answers.com) explaining what Wilson did: He began bankrupting America by signing the Federal Reserve Act. This also introduced the IRS, which would tax the income of citizens to pay off the interest on US government loans. The constitutionality of the IRS has been in question based on the fact that it was never properly ratified, and that it may be seen as a violation of the 4th and 5th amendments. Here is what Wilson said shortly after signing the Federal Reserve Act: "I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world - no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."

Friend, I'll start by answering your last question first. Armenia today is not standing on its own feet by itself. We are not a self-sustaining and viable nation on our own. There would be no Armenia were it not for the Russians and to a lesser extent the Iranians. The flip side is, the US government cannot exert any real influence on our Russian and Iranian friends and force them to act contrary to their national interest even if it chose to do so. So whatever courageous steps Armenians may take which may piss off the current American regime and make them want to retaliate against us, the American government cannot hurt us internationally that way. Most of Armenia's business is conducted regionally and hypothetical US-backed sanctions would be meaningless anyway. I might have a chuckle or two if American politicians tried to sway European opinion against us as well. Even cynical and pragmatic old Europe doesn't buy American trash anymore. Now in disagreement with you, the following to me spells anti-Armenian US foreign policy, no doubt about it: 1)The US praises Turkey as the model of democracy, liberty and enlightenment to the Moslem world and asks them to emulate the Turks when in fact they are an immoral abomination who built their nation on the genocide they committed against us. US foreign policy is anti-Armenian because by praising and bolstering Turkey it weakens us; by imbuing the Turks with international credibility, the American policy de facto undermines the legitimate Armenian demand for justice and reparation from the Turk. 2)The US government is a staunch military ally of the Turks. They supply them billions worth of tanks, jets and warships. Much of this material was given basically for free to the Turks throughout the cold war. To give guns to the Turk with which they can attack and kill Armenians whom the Americans know are the eternal enemies of the Turks is anti-Armenian. 3)American ex-Army men and assorted mercenaries are already training the Azeri military to the best of my knowledge which couldn't have happened without tacit approval and sanctioning of the American government. (I'm not sure but I think that the Americans are selling arms to the Azeris as well nowadays?) To help the Azeris militarily or even economically is part and parcel of an anti-Armenian policy knowing there's nothing those monsters would like to do more than exterminating us. Thank you for voicing your opinions which I respect.

The Federal Reserve is not a part nor a branch of the American government. Its legal status is that of a private corporation under American law. Furthermore, to the best of my recollection, some Supreme Court rulings even attributed sovereign powers to the the Fed, which means it's above the law of the land in the view of these supreme court judges (traitors is more like it)! Some of its officials or board members are nominally selected by the US president but they are always members of the banking community or economists recommended by the bankers to the president. As for the IRS; the law that was required to ratify this institution was never passed to the best of my knowledge. A majority of State legislatures had to ratify the law that legalized the IRS but this never materialized as far as I know. So the IRS has no legal foundation either; either as governmental institution or a private corporation. There was no income tax in the United States until 1913 if I'm not mistaken. It is stupid isn't it that the American government must borrow the very US dollars that the Constitution gives it the right to issue, from a private banking monopoly that issues illegal (paper) money! It is purported that the real reason Kennedy was assassinated was because he intended to take this right to issue money back from the Fed by having the US Treasury issue silver certificates (silver-backed Treasury notes or dollars) again.

Friend, Fact: we gave millions to American politicians to no avail. Fact: we NEVER spent a cent saying what I said about American politicians and American foreign policy. Fact: American foreign policy is anti-Armenian. Fact: you and I, we are Armenian and I don't accept the condoning, and indirect support, of the torture, rape and murder of Armenians like myself, which is what the Americans are doing. Fact: You say it's OK to commit genocide on me by tacitly approving it by refusing to call it a genocide? Then you're declaring yourself to be my enemy; you have nothing but contempt for me. YOU'RE EITHER WITH ME OR AGAINST ME. (What's good for the goose is good for the gander.) Fact: Only those Armenians who are stupid would give a cent to American politicians. WHAT'S SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND? I'M SAYING KEEP YOUR MONEY AND DON'T GIVE IT TO THE BASTARDS. If you want to spend it, then know that if you used one-tenth of what you give to the American politicians to advertise what I've been saying around here, you would get better results as far as the Armenian cause is concerned. But unfortunately Armenians are conformist cowards and traitors for the most part. Only morons would feed the enemy. American politicians are our enemies. (They often play good cop bad cop to lure us into supporting them, like Gephardt who now heads a pro-Turkish lobbying company if I recall correctly, and that holocaust survivor (shameful animal!) Jewish congressman who was extremely pro-Turkish for most of his career. What matters is, when the final votes are tallied, it's always a pro-Turkish decision that comes out.) ARE YOU DEAF OR COVERT LOBBYISTS? STOP FEEDING THE ENEMY! All you have to do is NOT give them money! Now explain to me what's NAIVE about that, you insidious, disingenuous types who have nothing intelligent to say. I'm talking about the idiot who is proud of himself for repeatedly saying "lol" like the stupidest Amerigatsi esh.

With so-called Armenians like you laughing at the truth of the Armenian genocide, why should anyone expect the Americans or anybody else to recognize the truth that it happened? Tip: when somebody writes "lol" because he has nothing intelligent to say, you know that he's a moron. This is not a personal attack, it's a statistical fact.

Nor can US relations with Armenians simply be based on morality; that's why Armenians must shout as loudly as they can that the emperor has no clothes in order to diminish the international standing of the the United States (as is largely deserved) so as to motivate the American ruling classes to change their tune regarding the genocide, Armenians and Turkey. When did I ever say I expect filth to become lovers of truth and justice overnight? My game plan is a very pragmatic one and I don't care anymore what they think or feel at this point as they've proven themselves conclusively less than human beings. Armenians must use the only real weapon we have. In our case it's the truth that the so-called Christian America is in bed with the Moslem Turks that committed the cruelest genocide against the first Christian nation of the world. I repeated this to you guys at least ten times. If Armenians repeat this same sentence ten times in the international public arena, the international standing of America will diminish, no doubt about it. That's what we must strive for; a politically tarnished America will have less meddling power and less of a need for allies like the Turks, for its capacity to commit mischief in that part of the world will be constrained. If you know that no one's going to want to be on your team because you look like s--t in the eyes of the world, then you'll be less inclined to look for a fight. It's like killing two birds with one stone: No more horrible useless wars where millions of civilians are murdered by American mercenaries because American bankers and corporations want their oil or other natural resources, or simply enjoy killing human beings for the sake of justifying the existence and funding of their military-industrial complex; and no free ride for the abominable Turks to boot. I know that you understand what I'm saying, like the rest of them. Why do you pretend otherwise? Why do you rationalize the deviant ways of the West? Why do you defend the indefensible American foreign policy regarding Armenians, the genocide and Turkey? Life is not just writing computer programs to make money to buy a house with a wife in it. Why is there no passion in any of you for what it means to be a human being?

This is what we must do. Forget about being nice with American politicians. Run ads daily in major American newspapers exposing the fact that this so-called Christian nation of Americans is the staunchest military and political ally of the abominable Moslem Turks who exterminated Armenians where they could exclusively by rape, torture and the most horrible means of murder available, like impaling, mutilation, hacking to death and burning alive. Millions of human beings like you and me! Rub their ugly faces in their hypocrisy and FORFEIT the Americans' moral authority internationally. This we definitely can with the means we have available. Only, our rich must seek justice instead of money, and our men and women, honor instead of just a job. This is the only way to make the American establishment stop collaborating with the Turks and thereby legitimizing a country and a nation built on the sadistic mass murder of the Armenians. The Americans, at least their corrupt and sick leadership, are not on our side. Since they and Europe are the main props of Turkey, we must hurt them this way to force them to do what is right. I used to love America. I used to defend it and criticize Europe and others. I gave so much of myself to America, I learned to speak their language better than they do. What did America give me in return? Betrayal after betrayal and the tacit approval of MY rape, torture and murder. To hell with such.

Isn't it clear that the "church" or the system you want to work from within is against us? We've been doing it for 95 years and we're standing still. That's the problem or dilemma that Armenians have. This is very important so don't forget. Armenians are an extremely conformist and mediocre lot. They hate making waves, always dying to be part and parcel of the mainstream. The problem is, the mainstream or the System, is AGAINST us and our interests. The System has nothing but contempt for truth and justice which is what we need to promote if we want to right the wrong that's been done to us. We have no other choice; not unlike Nietzsche's famous Jews, our only tools to achieve justice is reason and truth for we don't have tanks and guns or enough money and power that'll do the job. The System will assimilate you; it will not help you as your own experience has proven to you. How many American presidents lied to us promising they'll recognize the genocide then turned around after the election was over and spat on our faces for the world to see? Enough is enough. Stop being so spineless. If you want to live, Armenian, you will have to fight well and with the right tools the bastards who are pinning you down.

Here's a good start. 1)Use a fraction of the monies that we give to American politicians (Democrats and Republicans) and place a half a page ad a couple of times a week in major American newspapers like the New York Times and Wall Street Journal repeating the gist of what I said in my posts here minus the words that would be censored by mainstream media. No holds barred, call a spade a spade. PUBLICLY HOLD AMERICA AND AMERICANS RESPONSIBLE FOR BEING ALLIES OF THE TURKS for the U.S. is a democracy and its politicians and its government represent the will of the people. 2)Withdraw ALL support from, and cease collaborating with, establishment politicians and make them understand that they have proven themselves to be the Turks' friend and thereby our enemies. Weaken the bastards instead of succoring them. They'll get no money from us and the Turks will pay them less as well, knowing there's no competition. The American people are about to turn against the American ruling classes because they screwed them royally with the bailouts of the bankers accompanied by home foreclosures inflicted on the American middle-classes along with job losses caused by the jobs that were exported to China by the aforementioned scum bags. TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE TIDAL WAVE OF DISCONTENT THAT IS ABOUT TO HIT AMERICA and be in its vanguard, take advantage of its energy instead of trying to ingratiate yourselves to the evil dogs in hopes that they'll throw you a bone. It's simple to do, I'd do it if I were a rich man. But I've yet to meet an Armenian of means who's more interested in the Armenian cause than in business relations with the American and even the Turkish establishments. You have enough money to do anything you want; yet you are so disgustingly abhorrent that you conduct policies that compel our young women to go prostitute themselves in the brothels of Istanbul to be used and abused by the Turks voluntarily. Shame on all of us! As for your suggestion above, let me remind you that he who screws nuns later joins the church. You're not being honest with yourself and you know it.

Dear Yervant1, I will call a spade a spade and we Armenians will make progress only if we all do so as well. These people ARE scum, Yervant1. They proclaim themselves champions of democracy, freedom and liberty; they say that they are a Christian nation and swear on the Bible when they take their oath of office, yet they are military and political allies with the Moslem Turks who raped, mutilated and impaled on their swords and other instruments of torture, our young virgins in our Christian churches which they converted to stables later if they couldn't destroy them. These people are our enemies; they will never be our friends because they are evil. No one condones and supports evil unless they are evil. Do not seek their help; neutralize the bastards, disable them by showcasing their corruption and taking away any moral authority they still possess. We must hurt them, not work with them. Why don't you understand that? Otherwise we're never going back to our lands and are condemned to rot in the degenerate West and go down with them as they are doing now, economically, politically and morally.

My dear Armenians, you've been "pulling" for 95 years with no significant results. Give it a good "shove" for a change and see what happens. Remember the definition of madness (by Einstein if I recall correctly): Keep doing the same thing while expecting that a different result will come out of it (I'm paraphrasing). Assuming that the people and society at large are degenerate like you said Shaunt, we don't want want any of their tainted goods, we don't want them period. But we want them to stop aiding and abetting our eternal enemies the Turks. In other words, we don't want, nor should expect, help from degenerate scum. But if we rub their ugly degenerate faces in their hypocrisy hard enough and expose their criminality internationally, then we can use that as a bargaining chip to negotiate an eventual end to their alliance with the unabashedly evil Turk by making said alliance unpalatable for them. Anybody who expects true friendship from immoral greedy scum is a moron. What we can reasonably expect to achieve is to have them stop succoring the abominable Turks. And that we will not accomplish with bribing (Turks have stolen most of our money and property) nor sweet-talking wooden, soulless pieces of kaka mascarading as human beings. You all live in the good old US of A so you know what I'm talking about. A SIGNIFICANT ACCOMPLISHMENT ON OUR PART WOULD BE TO MAKE THE U.S. ESTABLISHMENT (DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS) STOP GIVING BILLIONS IN MILITARY AID TO TURKEY, INCLUDING FIGHTER JETS, TANKS AND WARSHIPS, AND TO FORCE THEM TO ABSTAIN FROM SUPPORTING FINANCIALLY THE FILTHY TURK VIA THE INTERNATIONAL MONETARY FUND (IMF) AND THROUGH INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMACY. THIS THEY WILL NOT DO UNLESS WE MAKE THEM AN OFFER THEY CANNOT REFUSE. Wake up, there's nothing to lose! You want to wait another 95 years? That's what THEY want. For the Armenian Question will have disappeared by then. Do you want to die or do you want to live and maybe die fighting for your life?

We don't have power and money so we must employ the only effective weapon that the weak possesses: truth and justice. Allies, we have none. In a world that worships power and money, for an Armenian to assume that we can have allies amounts to defeat right off the bat. No, we only have enemies because we are not powerful. THE ONLY WAY THE ARMENIAN WILL ADVANCE IS BY MAKING OUR ENEMIES AN OFFER THEY CANNOT REFUSE OR BY MAKING LIFE UNPLEASANT ENOUGH FOR THEM IF THEY COOPERATE WITH OUR ETERNAL ENEMIES LIKE THE TURKS. To think otherwise is AT BEST delusional. And a waste of time and money. How many Democrats and Republicans we gave money to, to no avail? Enough is enough. Shun the scum. And keep the money. Spend it on Armenian orphans or the army of NKR.

That's a typical contemporary American and Turkish response. Attempt to discredit everything by feigned confusion about one thing. You'r no good.

1)The Constitution was not changed as you're suggesting, so you're lying. Article I, Section 10 stands as it was originally. It was not changed to allow Americans to use something other than silver and gold as the basis of their monetary system. If America wants to change the Constitution, they can do it. But it wasn't done; therefore today's government consists of traitors because they have destroyed the United States' sovereignty; for the right to issue one's lawful money pertains to a nation's sovereignty at the most basic level. (Not only our present-day monetary system is illegal, but even the currency we use is not issued or managed by the Congress, as the Constitution stipulates, but by the Federal Reserve which is a private monopoly owned and controlled by the same private banking institutions that stole trillions from the American people via the recent financial debacles.) Any attempt at America's sovereignty by the government that's supposed to uphold and protect it, is treason. 2)You're saying that it's OK for legislators to break the very laws that they themselves pass! The consequence is total lack of accountability and the world we live in today where anything goes if you are from the ruling classes. WHAT AN INSANE IDEOLOGY FOR AN ARMENIAN whose sole recourse to remedy and justice is through law and reason. In the world you promote and condone, the Turk will torture rape and kill you with impunity. You are revolting. 3)This is not about deficits, my deluded friends. They can print all the currency they want and pay for trillions of trillions of deficits without breaking a sweat, as things stand. The deficits are a red herring for idiots. The real issue is this: In a system of unbacked paper currency, the bankers and their cronies can print as much money as they want and buy and pay for anything they want, whereas YOU have to work for that intrinsically-worthless money! Get it? In the world we live in today, we have basically two classes: the bankers and their retinue who are parasites for they consume without producing anything, and the rest of us whose real goods and services are denominated in and traded for worthless pieces of paper issued by the bankers! What the bankers care about is the ILLUSION that their money is really valuable; not the deficits or non-performing assets and what not. At any moment, someone can shout 'The emperor has no clothes' and all that money you've been saving for retirement could disappear like a whiff of smoke. The problem is, everybody's playing this stupid game, including the Chinese, the Muslims (their very religion prohibits paper money), the Europeans and the Russians of course. THE WORLD WE LIVE IN TODAY IS CONTINGENT ON DELUSION AND STUPIDITY. That's no foundation to rely on; it is at best the sword of Damocles on the edge of which we're dancing a suicidal dance like the Turks had our virgins dance before raping, torturing and impaling them on their swords.

You stated for the record that you're graduating from law school. Therefore you're a lawyer who doesn't care about the law! Since you're by your own admission not interested in upholding the law of the land (the US Constitution); and you don't care that it's been broken by successive governments since 1933 (when Roosevelt first broke the law by declaring illegal the ownership and use of gold as money); you obviously don't give two hoots about justice and right and wrong. Like another lawyer told me in an involuntary moment of candor, Justice is getting what you want, for you, isn't it my friend? In the world that you and your kind are creating, might makes right. And Turks can literally get away with (mass) murder. What a nice Armenian young man! You make me proud to be an Armenian once again! What an honor...

Ask yourself: What did the Jews do after the holocaust? Did they beg the Americans for Holocaust recognition or did they organize, pull their resources together and take over land that hadn't been their own for almost two thousand years? Why did the West help them acquire Israel? But did not help us to even get our own lands back? Why does the non-Muslim West prefer to do business with the Moslem and intractable Turks instead of us?

Cannon fodder.

Furthermore, why do you call me a hater because I accuse the guilty of their crime, old timer? Why is an Armenian a "hater" for recognizing ALL, and not only some, of the perpetrators of the Armenian genocide? You're not being honest.