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gamavor-you completelymiss the point. Inever said he was any authority (funny- the Turks use this same argument). but it is through this very eloquent statement - "who after all remembers the extermination of the Armenians" and because of what followed - that the statement has great power...make any sense now? And don't we strive for recognition of our forgotten Genocide? And don't we sometimes say - so histlry will not repeat etc (not that this is meant literlay - as the events are unique....it is the concept of mans inhumanity to man etc that we are refering to here - and perhaps we can even see other lessons - abuse of State power etc ....and so on)... And I dispute your factors as causation for the Genocide - they are not entirely accurate - at best they are part of the story - and very simplified at that...

Exactly. Of course it is no forgery...and of course it was said (and not once - but at least twice....) And the quote is very relevant...again - it is the whole concept of learning from history..and why crimes must be acknowledged and the perpetrators not let off nor the terrible deeds forgotton. I mean why do we wish for recognition of the Genocide? Why do we care? It is exactly for these reasons IMO.

This is so rediculous!!! I'm sorry but I don't understand what is the significance of Hitler's statement if it existed at all???? What? If he uttered that words, that means that there was a Genocide, if not then there was no Genocide! Hello!? What the hell Hitler has to do with Armenian Genocide?????

Yes Hitler burned it....he was obsessed with preventing any propaganda that might in any way help the Armenian cause!

In 1942 I think not. It wold be like people of today clearly remembering the Berlin airlift or some other event that occured in a previous generation. Sure some remember it - but as for most - particualrly in 1942 - well there were plenty of other thigs on their mind...and don't forget the great depression was the most recent news of all etc...anyway - so you are trying to make a case that this is just all propoganda are you now..well i find this fact alone to be most interesting. And i stll do not at all buy the fact that any mentioning of Armenians - in 1942 would have any real value. Besides - once again - the document (translation) was entered into evidence at Nuremburg- and accepted as factual - this is documented. I fail to see its propoganda value at this time....

has it ever accured to you it could have been distroyed in a last days of Nazi germany?

THOTH, I envy you patient’s man, really

No Steve you don't understand - what value would it be to mention the Armenians? Other then this - what would be considered a minor and incosequential point to most of those taking notes at the time (and likely wjy they didn't include it) - the various (3) versions of the speech are nearly identical. Now are you trying to claim that Lochner made it all up for propaganda? Seems that the vast majority can be clearly seen to be factual...so what is the value added - propaganda wise against Germany - for the added bit concerning Armenians - a people that most Americans and whoever else - have never heard of..I mean why didn't he put somethign about - and next - after Poland and the rest of Europe - i will go after America and take all of their resources for the German people - etc etc....so you see Steve - no one can give any plausable reeason for this particular bit to be a forgery at all - tand the evidence clearly indicates that it is an accurate translation...etc etc

You got enough leads to fallow to the original, by the way what kind of documentation you are looking for? Audio tape, what I gave you was a transcript which was an exhibit at Nuremberg trials as a document of a statement; I don’t know what else you’re looking for. I think you missed the last portion of my previos post, read again!

Steve you want a document references? here Statements on Record Adolf Hitler Chancellor of Nazi Germany (1933-45) "Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My decision to attack Poland was arrived at last spring. Originally, I feared that the political constellation would compel me to strike simultaneously at England, Russia, France, and Poland. Even this risk would have had to be taken. Ever since the autumn of 1938, and because I realized that Japan would not join us unconditionally and that Mussolini is threatened by that nit-wit of a king and the treasonable scoundrel of a crown prince, I decided to go with Stalin. In the last analysis, there are only three great statesmen in the world, Stalin, I, and Mussolini. Mussolini is the weakest, for he has been unable to break the power of either the crown or the church. Stalin and I are the only ones who envisage the future and nothing but the future. Accordingly, I shall in a few weeks stretch out my hand to Stalin at the common German-Russian frontier and undertake the redistribution of the world with him. Our strength consists in our speed and in our brutality. Genghis Khan led millions of women and children to slaughter — with premeditation and a happy heart. History sees in him solely the founder of a state. It's a matter of indifference to me what a weak western European civilization will say about me. I have issued the command — and I'll have anybody who utters but one word of criticism executed by a firing squad — that our war aim does not consist in reaching certain lines, but in the physical destruction of the enemy. Accordingly, I have placed my death-head formations in readiness — for the present only in the East — with orders to them to send to death mercilessly and without compassion , men, women, and children of Polish derivation and language. Only thus shall we gain the living space (Lebensraum) which we need. Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians? Kevork B. Bardakjian, Hitler and the Armenian Genocide (Cambridge, Massachusetts: The Zoryan Institute, 1985). The text above is the English version of the German document handed to Louis P. Lochner in Berlin. It first appeared in Lochner's What About Germany? (New York: Dodd, Mead & Co., 1942), pp. 1-4. The Nuremberg Tribunal later identified the document as L-3 or Exhibit USA-28. Two other versions of the same document appear in Appendices II and III. For the German original cf. Akten zur Deutschen Auswartigen Politik 1918-1945, Serie D, Band VII, (Baden-Baden, 1956), pp. 171-172.