hytga Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 ok. i'm trying to put a system together, and i need some help. i'm leaning towards ati graphic cards, except i'm not sure which one will serve my purpose and what propram will i need. what i'm trying to do is find a graphics card that has 1 video in and 2 audio ( or with combination with a sound card) (digital of course), like any vcr. after the output from the vcr is recieved by the graphics card, i need it to capture the video with sound. i heard one of the sony systems has this and it can record from the vcr at a fast rate. so like a an hour of video will be captured in say 10-20 minutes. the playback of the vcr is controlled from the computer automatically (haven't seen this myself so i'm not sure it's possible, but nontheles i heard this sony system has this option, but can't rememberthe model of the system.) anyway i'm assuming a special program is needed for this, so if you know the name of the program that can enable you to capture at a fast rate, lemme know plz. after the capturing is done the program allows you to crate a dvd with titles etc. oh. and as i said i'm leaning towards ati cards. and preferebly creative sound cards. thanks in advance to anyone who has some experience in this field and can give me some feedback. also if you guys know the model of the sony system post it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 One of my PCs is a Sony at home and it has the input for any video(both A/V cables and S-Video) It also has firewire(ieee 1394) input. I can record videos from all 3 formats. However I do not know of a vcr that is digital, thus I do not think the VCR can be controlled from the PC. However a miniDV camcorder that has Firewire or USB2 output can be controlled via the PC and you can record at a faster rate(not recommended) You need LOTS of disk space and good amount of RAM(ram part if you plan to do any editing). Premier is a great tool for this but is a bit complicated. Sony comes with a video editing tool that is okay as well, but the best one that I have found for a novice user like is is the Windows MovieMaker. it is great and very easy to use. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloa...oviemaker2.mspx good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hytga Posted September 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 (edited) i'm kinda confused isn't the red yellow and white output from any vcr digital? i thought they are btw movimaker is way to simple for that. does "Premier" allow you to record at a fast rate? i'm curious has anyone used ati's TV WONDER, what options does this thing have in regards to capturing video. any other opinions about it is also appriciated one more question. has anyone used Pinnacle Studio? ps. any advices in regards using specific hardware (graphic cards) and software for quality video capture is appreciated btw thanks azat. Edited September 29, 2004 by hytga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 i'm kinda confused isn't the red yellow and white output from any vcr digital? i thought they are btw movimaker is way to simple for that. does "Premier" allow you to record at a fast rate? i'm curious has anyone used ati's TV WONDER, what options does this thing have in regards to capturing video. any other opinions about it is also appriciated one more question. has anyone used Pinnacle Studio? ps. any advices in regards using specific hardware (graphic cards) and software for quality video capture is appreciated btw thanks azat. style_images/master/snapback.png The red yellow and white A/V cables are analog. So is s-Video. Firewire and USB2 are digital for videos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 (edited) i'm kinda confused isn't the red yellow and white output from any vcr digital? i thought they are btw movimaker is way to simple for that. does "Premier" allow you to record at a fast rate? i'm curious has anyone used ati's TV WONDER, what options does this thing have in regards to capturing video. any other opinions about it is also appriciated one more question. has anyone used Pinnacle Studio? ps. any advices in regards using specific hardware (graphic cards) and software for quality video capture is appreciated btw thanks azat. style_images/master/snapback.png I have used Pinnacle Studio, crappy movie maker, Premiere and others... I like Premiere the best, there are opensource and freewares equivalents as well(of course they don't offer all the plog-ins and options one can have on premiere)... everything is better than movie maker... the stupid thing is slow, it load every key frames independently and takes a lot of time for nothing(just opening the film take ages). BTW, if you want to go with the ATI, get yourself the 9800 series All-in-Wonders retail... it is really cheap now compared with what it worthed, you can have it for a real bargain prize. I don't like SoundBlaster soundcards, I had really bad experiences with them, recent motherboards that have on-board sound chip have acceptable performance, some have even 24 bit reproduction. If you want absolutly a SoundBlaster, jump directly for the Audigy II series, the previous Audigys have some hardware issues. Lastly, I discourage you to get the TV Wonder, I already tried it, and it isn't really serious, it produces unwanted noises, and it seems that color reproductions are crap, and for the full S-Video and A/V cables, you can't have anything less than 9800 All-in-Wonders if you want some serious work to be done. Oh, if you want to use Premiere etc... Premiere is not really good to finish the work, it is to work with it, and export it, and then for compression etc... using other softwares will be good... virtualdub is a freeware and it works cool, don't forget to install the interesting codecs. BTW Azat, I disagree when you say that Premiere is not very easy... I find it one of the most intuitive software ever, bunch of ressources are available for it. Edited September 29, 2004 by Fadix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 BTW, the A/V connection is NOT digital... even if you could have a digital output from your VCR, you won't have a better quality picture because the tape is recorded analog and it is converted to digital... so it is the same thing as having the analog output connected on your videocard which will digitize it... and you can even have a better result with good videocards that would convert it better than a VCR that has a digital output.(If that exist) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 As far as hardware, I'd recommend an Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe motherboard and an ASUS Radon 9600XT (or similar) video card. The Asuses have video in and unlike most other cards can run dual monitor with DVI and VGA at the same time (running different desktops and not simply cloned). Other cards either don't have video in, only do DVI or analog VGA at a time, or do 2 analog VGAs or some other stupid combination. Haven't used ATI wonder .. I find most software that comes bundled with hardware to be completely crap. I use my card to watch TV on my second LCD monitor all the time ... I haven't spent much time recording anything but pretty much all of them seem to come down to the codec used ... the actual software itself is only good for editing and the other fancy features. The codec is what does the actual encoding and recording (that's where the quality will come in). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hytga Posted September 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 (edited) IIRC mpg/2 is the best right? btw did anyone notice the flaw in the title of this topic? "Video Captiure" it's french Edited September 29, 2004 by hytga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 Not sure what's "best" but I usually use mpeg4 these days ... either divx or microsoft mpeg4. But if you are going to make a dvd, then you may want to just stick with mpeg2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellthecat Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 Oh, if you want to use Premiere etc... Premiere is not really good to finish the work, it is to work with it, and export it, and then for compression etc... using other softwares will be good... virtualdub is a freeware and it works cool, don't forget to install the interesting codecs. BTW Azat, I disagree when you say that Premiere is not very easy... I find it one of the most intuitive software ever, bunch of ressources are available for it. style_images/master/snapback.png Which version is this? One of the reasons I am still on version 5.5 is that I had read that Premiere Pro has completely changed its editing interface. (The other reasons being that it only runs on XP and supposedly eats up memory like there were gigabytes of it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 (edited) Which version is this? One of the reasons I am still on version 5.5 is that I had read that Premiere Pro has completely changed its editing interface. (The other reasons being that it only runs on XP and supposedly eats up memory like there were gigabytes of it). style_images/master/snapback.png I use 7, the earlier version that I really used was 6, so I can't tell. Do you know the most recent version? It is Premiere Pro 1.5... What a stupid way of naming their product? 1.5 following the 7? Edited September 30, 2004 by Fadix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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