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Like I reported previously, the theories of World Jewish conspirations and NAZI ideologies concerning the Jews, and later the denial of the Holocaust had as orgine, a work titled in its English translation, The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion a proven forgery from a manipulation of a previously existing work.

 

I have a copy of the work in question somewhere, in its German version, the same translation used by the NAZI chief ideologue non other then Rosenberg... I as well have an English translation of that same work, but found that I should not post any quotations from it.

 

Here a start for those that want to know what is the work in question, and how it was discovered that it was a compleat forgery.

 

 

The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion

 

by J.H. Hunting

 

(Reprinted from the Vineyard, March, 1978)

 

This timely article is reprinted to expose the upsurge of anti-Semitism caused by this infamous forgery.

 

I have on my desk unsavoury anti-Semitic literature which is currently being foisted upon the public, and the clergy in particular.

 

Because this literature expresses such ugly Jew-hate and is so blatantly untrue I feel it my duty to unmask the lies set forth.

 

Included in the literature which is being circulated through the post is a broadsheet carrying the following advertisement:

 

"THE PROTOCOLS OF THE ELDERS OF ZION. Originally translated by Victor Marsden, great British journalist. Believed by many to be the original minutes of the Zionist plot for world power."

 

"THE INTERNATIONAL JEW". Originally published by Henry Ford, Snr. Reproduced in compact form.

 

Henry Ford Publicly Retracted His Views.

 

Regretfully, Mr. Henry Ford Snr. initiated a campaign of Jew-hate in 1920. His Book, "THE INTERNATIONAL JEW" WAS BASED MAINLY ON "THE PROTOCOLS'. However, what the publishers of this current edition of 'THE INTERNATIONAL JEW' do not state is that Mr. Ford completely retracted his views expressed in his book. It is only fair that his retraction be quoted herewith.

 

"To my great regret I learn that in the Dearborn Independent and in reprint pamphlets entitled, 'THE INTERNATIONAL JEW', there have appeared articles which induce the Jews to regard me as their enemy, promoting anti-Semitism.

 

"As a result of this survey I am deeply mortified that this journal, which is intended to be constructive and not destructive, has been made the medium for resurrecting exploded fictions, for giving currency to the so-called Protocols of the Wise Men of Zion, which have been demonstrated, as I learn, to be gross forgeries, and for contending that the Jews have been engaged in a conspiracy to control the capital and the industries of the world, besides laying at their door many offences against decency, public order and good morals...I deem it to be my duty as an honourable man to make amends for the wrong done to the Jews as fellow men and brothers, by asking their forgiveness for the harm which I have unintentionally committed, by retracting, as far as lies within my power the offensive charges laid at their door by these publications, and by giving them the unqualified assurance that henceforth they may look to me for friendship and good will...

 

"Had I appreciated even the general nature to say nothing of the details of these utterances, I would have forbidden their circulation without a moment's hesitation...This statement is made on my own initiative and wholly in the interest of right and justice, and is in accordance with what I regard as my solemn duty as a man and as a citizen."

 

What are the Protocols?

 

As many of our readers may not be familiar with this infamous forgery the following is a brief summary of its evil ingredients. The "Protocols" are set forth as the minutes of twenty-four secret sessions of "the innermost circle of the rulers of Zion". These fictitious minutes are thus laid down as twenty-four "Protocols" or master plan to enslave the world by the most dastardly and unscrupulous methods imaginable. here are a few examples:

 

"Our right lies in force. The word "right" is an abstract thought and proved by nothing. The word means no more than: Give me what I want in order that thereby I may have a proof that I am stronger than you." - Protocol 1. Article 12.

 

"The administrators, whom we shall choose from among the public, with strict regard to their capacities for servile obedience, will not be persons trained in the arts of government, and will therefore easily become pawns in our game in the hands of men of learning and genius who will be their advisors, specially bred and reared from early childhood to rule the affairs of the whole world."- Protocol 2. Article 2.

 

"In order to put public opinion into our hands we must bring it into a state of bewilderment by giving expression from all sides to so many contradictory opinions and for such length of time as will suffice to make the gym (Gentiles) lose their heads in the labyrinth and come to see that the best thing is to have no opinion of any kind in matters political, which is not given to the public to understand, because they are understood only by him who guides the public. This is the first secret."- Protocol 5. Article 10.

 

"The Press, which with a few exceptions that may be disregarded, is already entirely in our hands."- Protocol 7. Article 5.

 

How Did the Protocols Originate?

 

In 1901 a Russian official in the Chancery of the Synod of Moscow named Serge A. Niles published a strange work entitled, "The Great in the Little and the AntiChrist as a Proximate Political Possibility". Nilus expressed the view that only the Holy Russian Empire could save the world from the rule of Antichrist. The idea behind the book was to bolster the absolute authority of the Czarist regime. In 1905 a second edition of the book appeared with one significant addition - the Protocols! Thus was born one of the most infamous documents ever published. And only Nilus himself ever claimed to have seen the original.

 

The "Protocols" Exposed as an Infamous Forgery

 

In August 1921 Mr. Phillip Graves, correspondent of the London "Times" in Constantinople came into the possession of a small book in a tattered condition. Such an insignificant incident may well have passed unnoticed and been swallowed into oblivion had not Mr. Graves recognized a sentence as being identical with one of the "Protocols". Yet, THIS BOOK HAD THE NAME "JOLI" AS THE AUTHOR!

 

Mr. Graves compared the book written by Monsieur Joli with a copy of the "Protocols" and in it he found repeated word for word, paragraph for paragraph and page for page the text of the earlier book written by Joli. The only alteration was that instead of the word "Zion" Joli had written "France", and instead of "We the Jews" the original book had "The Emperor"!

 

The book written by Joli was a satire directed against Napoleon III and was entitled "Dialogue in Hell between Machiavelli and Montesquieu". IT HAD NOTHING WHATEVER TO DO WITH THE JEWS!

 

In three consecutive issues dated 16th, 17th and 18th August, 1921 the London "Times" printed long extracts from the "Protocols" side by side with Joli's "Dialogue in Hell". Thus was the infamous forgery exposed as ONE OF THE MOST INSOLENT FORGERIES OF ALL TIME.

 

Count Heinrich Coudenhove-Kalergi in his book "ANTI-SEMITISM THROUGHOUT THE AGES" (English translation, Hutchinson, 1935) writes: "This plagiarism is an anti-Semitic forgery from the beginning to the end without any connection whatever with Jewish personalities, groups, organizations or conferences. The publication is in no wise, whether directly or indirectly, a product of the Jewish spirit, or Jewish tradition, or of Jewish sentiments and opinions.

 

"In the entire fraud committed against humanity which the "Protocols" represents, the Jews are merely innocent objects, while the anti-Semites were the guilty agents. Thousands of Jews have been massacred, maltreated, plundered and imprisoned in the Ukraine and in Germany on account of this forgery. At the same time many millions of non-Jews have been deceived by the "Protocols", they have been induced to commit deeds and to utter words which they would most deeply regret were the facts of the forgery known to them. No book and no event in the history of modern anti-Semitism has played such an important part as this plagiarism; it constitutes the piece de resistance, the choice morsel of after-war anti-Semitism.

 

"It is, therefore, they duty of all decent men in the world, be they non-Jews or Jews, Anti-Semites or Philo-Semites, to work with all their might and see to it that this shameless lie, forgery and calumny disappears from the world.

 

"It ought to be made clear to all those who know the "Protocols" that the publication is a plagiarism of fatal world importance. The work of enlightenment is not only a duty to the calumniated Jews, but also to truth, for it is no exaggeration to say that the so called "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" are both one of the most insolent forgeries of all time and one of the meanest calumnies which has existed in human history."

 

Hitler knew only too well how to manipulate the masses with lies of great magnitude and he exploited the "Protocols" to the fullest extent. Four years after the publication of the warning contained in Count Kalergi's book the harvest of hatred against the Jews began in Europe, and the flames of the holocaust were not extinguished until six million innocent Jewish victims had perished.

 

The Law Steps In

 

Dr. A. Zander, editor of a Swiss Nazi organ, published a series of articles on the acceptability of the "Protocols". But Swiss law offered redress and community leaders in that country determined to expose the fraudulent basis of the iniquitous document before a well-respected court of justice.

 

Trial began in Berne on October 29, 1934, the plaintiffs being Dr. J. Dreyfus-Brodsky, Dr. Marcus Cohen, and Dr. Marcus Ehrenpreis.

 

On May 19, 1935, the Cantonal Court of Berne, after full investigation declared the "Protocols" to be forgeries, plagiarisms, and obscene literature and gave judgment in favour of the Cantonal Bernese Act. The Nazi, Dr. Zander, was fined.

 

At Grahamstown, South Africa, in August, 1934, the Court imposed fines totalling 1.775 ($4,500) on three men for concocting a modern version of the "Protocols".

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Actually, nothing directly, I just posted about a work I refered in another thread, a work that is the origine of the theories of world Jewish conspirations and the denial of the Holocaust. Every time we talk about the denial of a genocide, we indirectly imply the Armenian genocide.

 

We have very similair works, one in mind is those produced by Sadik a leading Ottoman forger, and we have as well the famous Uras files that are the basis of the Turkish denialist machine.

 

In will soon post here one of Sadik forgeries (an essay of Dadrian) that was published in Armenian studies.

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Dear Domino,

 

0) I agree with gamavor

 

1) one should not identify Jews with their leaders. This identification is one of the catalysts of antisemitism.

2) antisemitism/persecution has always been perceived by jewish leaders as a way of unifying their people behind their political goals. antisemitism serves the purpose of zionism.

3) one should aim for mutual understanding and mutual respect but this understanding may only be based on the TRUTH and the relationship should be one of equals. I tend to share Solzhenitsyn's view on the subject. He recently wrote a book untitled "Two hundreds years together" about the relationship between Jews and Russians during the nineteenth and twentieth century.

4) I had already heard of the text you are refering to (ie the protocols) so I was intrigued by the proofs your article seems to bring especially the following assertion:

Mr. Graves compared the book written by Monsieur Joli with a copy of the "Protocols" and in it he found repeated word for word, paragraph for paragraph and page for page the text of the earlier book written by Joli

I checked the original text by Maurice Joly which can be found on the web (see Dialogue aux enfers entre Machiavel et Montesquieu ou La politique de Machiavel, Bruxelles, 1869) and looked up the other one (I will not give the link). Both texts are, at the very best, remotely related. I believe the text to be a forgery but the unbased arguments outlined in your text do not help support the case, they actually do more harm than good. So I encourage you to check your sources before posting.

 

5) Could we leave this topic? Focusing on Jews seems quite counterproductive to me.

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Dear Axel, I do not understand the point you are trying to make. Where exactly your answer has to do with my post ? As for the protocole, I know the site you have given. But I think you should verify a second time those two works... here you could find a comparaison in French between those two, remark how the difference are mainly based on the fact that it is a retranslation to French from the many Russian versions and those from German(The protocol was Russian made in nature). You will see by yourself that some of the differences are apparantly an interpretation of the reinterpretation of some words in French.

 

http://membres.lycos.fr/nephtali/dialogue.html

 

the 25 dialogues gave birth to the 24 protocols, the irony in that is that Joly himself was a Jew, and the work was a satire against Napoleon and his plan of conspiring to control the world... The Russian secret services took a Jewish work against Napoleon megalomanic plan and reverted it against the Jews.

 

I verify always my sources before posting them... and there is no mistake in what I posted, there is many other works concerning this, and the history of the protocole and the different versions and translations, but I am sure that no one here will be interested to read long essays about that, so I have posted the shortest possible article that I have found.

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