Coming of Antichrist to Make peace

[Arpa]

Now his church is pastured by his son, give it a try!

pastured? Not only you should learn the Armenian language, but also English.

pastUred means put to pasture, banished or worse/murdered. The word is pastOred

Arpa: Are you pretending to be a clown? or you are really in such darkness; anyway this address may enlighten you somehow :

Yes I am a clown, only an idiotic clown will take your gobbledygook seriously.

[man]

Arpa: in my dictionary 'lowlife" means clueless when it comes to spiritual matter and one who used to discredit Jesus (although as a child I was a church goer and wearing 'shabic' during Armenian Apostolic church mass, but when I grow up I parted way from Jesus. But He came later and took be back.

 

Samuel Doctorian is the ONE here below mentioned as "Paul of 9 years old during the Genocide" and taken as slave by Turks and most-likly called him "ahmad".

 

He had four or five children like Paul Doctorian, Naomi Doctorian. And David Doctorian the state senator IS ONE OF THEM. THERE IS NO FRAUD HERE, take your lousy words back. Changing name from Paul Hekimnian to Samuel Doctorian (I think the American missionaries did it) is NOT a fraud. I have to go now, come back later

 

"David was born to Armenian parents who became orphans when they were young. His grandparents refused to convert to the Islamic religion and were executed for their faith during the Armenian Genocide. David's father, Paul, 9 years old, was rounded up with other women and children of the village and forced to walk through the Syrian Desert. A Turkish soldier recognized him as the son of a doctor who had cared for his own family and he was pulled from the group, taken to a Turkish family to be a slave. He was beaten and left for dead when he attempted to run away. Found by American Missionaries he was taken to an orphanage in Beirut, Lebanon. David's mother, Mary, 5 years old, experienced a similar story, also being rescued by a Turkish soldier and taken to the same orphanage as his father. There is where they met [David's mother & father Samuel Doctorian/Paul Hekimian], grew up together and later married and lived in Beirut."

Edited August 8, 2013 by man

[man]

Arpa: in my dictionary 'lowlife" means clueless when it comes to spiritual matter and one who used to discredit Jesus (although as a child I was a church goer and wearing 'shabic' during Armenian Apostolic church mass, but when I grow up I parted way from Jesus. But He came later and took be back.

 

Samuel Doctorian is the ONE here below mentioned as "Paul of 9 years old during the Genocide" and taken as slave by Turks and most-likly called him "ahmad".

 

He had four or five children like Paul Doctorian, Naomi Doctorian. And David Doctorian the state senator IS ONE OF THEM. THERE IS NO FRAUD HERE, take your lousy words back. Changing name from Paul Hekimnian to Samuel Doctorian (I think the American missionaries did it) is NOT a fraud. I have to go now, come back later

 

"David was born to Armenian parents who became orphans when they were young. His grandparents refused to convert to the Islamic religion and were executed for their faith during the Armenian Genocide. David's father, Paul, 9 years old, was rounded up with other women and children of the village and forced to walk through the Syrian Desert. A Turkish soldier recognized him as the son of a doctor who had cared for his own family and he was pulled from the group, taken to a Turkish family to be a slave. He was beaten and left for dead when he attempted to run away. Found by American Missionaries he was taken to an orphanage in Beirut, Lebanon. David's mother, Mary, 5 years old, experienced a similar story, also being rescued by a Turkish soldier and taken to the same orphanage as his father. There is where they met [David's mother & father Samuel Doctorian/Paul Hekimian], grew up together and later married and lived in Beirut."

[man]

I have read his autobiography “The Life Story of Samuel Doctorian begins at Calvary” years ago and so I forgot the details.

 

From http://www.biblelandmission.org/
we learn that: Samuel Doctorian is an Armenian. Like all other Armenian families, his parents suffered in the massacres by the Turks in 1915. His father was Paul Hakemian/Doctorian and at age nine during the Genocide he was captured by the Turks and made a Turkish household slave, he latter escaped by help of missionaries while the parents of the boy Paul (medic by profession) were killed by the Turks at Genocide because they would not deny Christ and convert to Islam. So Paul is first generation genocide survivor, and Samuel his son a second generation of survivor. His younger brother David also a second generation of survivors.

Paul got married and gave birth to Samuel Doctorian in 1930 in the city of Beirut. He also gave birth to David Doctorian, the brother of Samuel. Then Samuel had some 4 (or was it 5 children) and many grandchildren. 2 daughters & 2 or 3 sons. His eldest son Paul [Paul Samuel Doctorian] is now the Pastor of the Pasadena Armenian Church of the Nazarene.
The state senator David Doctorian is the brother of Samuel Doctorian. Here is a picture showing the whole family with their wives and children:
http://www.biblelandmission.org/images2/familyreunion.jpg
(sitting is Samuel and his wife Naomi with one of their grandchildren, at left on front is his eldest son Paul with his wife)

Here is what David the senator says: "David was born to Armenian parents [to Paul Doctorian like Samuel] who became orphans when they were young. His grandparents [the parents of Paul Doctorian] refused to convert to the Islamic religion and were executed for their faith during the Armenian Genocide. David's [and Samuel's] father, Paul Doctorian, 9 years old, was rounded up with other women and children of the village and forced to walk through the Syrian Desert. A Turkish soldier recognized him as the son of a doctor who had cared for his own family and he was pulled from the group, taken to a Turkish family to be a slave. He was beaten and left for dead when he attempted to run away. Found by American Missionaries he was taken to an orphanage in Beirut, Lebanon. David's mother, Mary, 5 years old, experienced a similar story, also being rescued by a Turkish soldier and taken to the same orphanage as his father. There is where they met, grew up together and later married and lived in Beirut."

See you at church (Pasadena Armenian Church of Nazarene, 2355 E. Washington Blvd., Pasadena, CA 9110) this Sunday Dear Arpa, don't forget to bring with you dark eyeglasses since Jesus suddently may appear with His light and you may turn blind like Saul/Paul was blinded when he met Jesus at the road to Damascus.
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THE WORLD IS MY CHURCH says Samuel Doctorian

Armenia, a totally independent country now.
After five hundred years under the
Turks, and seventy-two years under the Russian
communist government, the country of Armenia is
now independent. We have great freedom to preach
the Gospel.

I arrived in Armenia with my dear son, Paul,
who is now as an ordained minister also pastoring
the Pasadena Armenian Church of the Nazarene,
in California. Paul and I were very excited to be
back in Armenia. Our first station was to go to the
military zone in Mountainous Karabagh. They
have had severe battles with Azerbaijan for three
years. They were able to recapture that great piece
of land with villages and cities that belonged to
Armenia. Armenian loss of life was six thousand
five hundred in a span of three years. Our first stop
was to go to the capital city of that region,
Stepanakert. The precious brother who arranged
and led those meetings for us had been a general
commander in that area. Five years ago God
visited him gloriously and he started a fellowship
of Christians in that city.

It was marvelous to preach in the hall that was
packed. The next day it was overcrowded. The third
day there was no place for people to even stand.
The Holy Spirit moved mightily and every night
souls cried to the Lord for Salvation. Every night
we prayed for the sick. And one night the mighty
Holy Spirit came down and filled many of them. I
believe revival has started in that part of the
country.

I want to thank the Lord and all His children
from all over the world, the wonderful Bible Land
Mission family who did help us financially. You
sent us monetary help so we could go to Armenia
and minister the Word of God boldly and with
freedom.

Armenia presently is a poor country. In order to
visit there and evangelize, we had to pay our own
tickets, our own hotel expenses and many other
expenses in the country including renting buses
that brought the people to the meeting places. We
were able to help many of the pastors and the
preachers financially. God gave us our daily bread
and helped us to minister with total freedom with
no financial burden because many of God's
children helped us so we could come and minister
in this needy country of Armenia.

While I am dictating this report, I'm in Yerevan,
the capital city. In Artashat, a neighboring town,
few days ago we had overcrowded meetings in the
church building that the Lord helped us buy and
give it to the church body there. The church
building seats three hundred fifty. It's a beautiful
building with nice gardens all around it. All the
seats were full, air conditioning units were working
full blast, a loud speaking system was operational,
and I was able to preach the gospel everyday. To
God be the glory many new souls were added to
the Kingdom.

One night I shared the message on the blood of
Jesus. The Holy Spirit touched many lives. To my
amazement many stood to be saved. They cried out
he prayer, repeating words after me,

“Lord, I'm a sinner. Lord, I believe in you. Lord, thank you for
dying in my place. Thank you for shedding your
blood for my salvation. Save me Lord.”

I believe the Lord did it. For the Word of the Lord says,
“As many as call the name of the Lord, shall be saved.”

Now I am busy preaching in another church, in
a town called Norapatz, where the Lord helped us
also send financial help. They were able to buy a
wonderful piece of land. They renovated the
building and the Lord really blessed in this new
church in a wonderful way. Lord willing, on
Saturday and Sunday of this week I will preach in
a big hall in Yerevan on the third floor of a
building. I know the Lord will bless abundantly.
As I leave Armenia on September 15, I will be on
my way to South Africa preaching in different
churches near Johannesburg, South African
churches and also one big meeting on Sunday
with the Chinese churches together in
Johannesburg.

From South Africa, I will visit Singapore for one
week. I will be preaching every day, and twice on
Sundays. On Saturday 27th of September we shall
be having a great get together with the Bible Land
Mission committee in Singapore. I know the place
will be full and the Lord will give us a great meeting.

From Singapore I shall be flying to Delhi and
then on to Bihar. Bihar is located in the North of
India near Tibet, with Nepal right on the border.
Twelve thousand are coming together for a great
convention. The people mostly are Hindus and I
shall be preaching Christ in that great convention.

From Bihar, India, I will be on my way to
Holland. There I'll be preaching for three weeks
every day. The first Sunday, I start with the
Maranatha Church, the largest Pentecostal church
in Amsterdam. Two meetings on Sunday morning
and then daily services all over Holland. I need
your prayers.

I rejoice to give such report of what the Lord has
done, what He is doing, and what He is going to do.
Remember dear reader, I am now seventy-three
years old but by the grace of God still going on
preaching the glorious gospel.

Yours for the extension of God's Kingdom everywhere,
The world is my church,
Samuel Doctorian
(Date of report not given, publication date is 2004 but it happened years before.)

[man]

Here it indicates that they have 5 children and 4 grandchildren, this is an early post and by now there are more grandchildren

Samuel Doctorian is an Armenian. Like all other Armenian families, his family suffered in the massacres by the Turks in 1915. His father and mother were young children at this time, and they both lost both parents, barbarously slaughtered because they would not deny Christ. Samuel’s parents escaped the massacre, and were later brought up in a Mission Orphanage.

Samuel was born in 1930 in the city of Beirut. When he was six years old, his parents moved to Jerusalem, where they lived until the war in 1948, when for the second time they lost everything and became refugees. When he was nine years old, Samuel became a committed Christian as he stood at the place where Jesus died. It was there he resolved that his whole life would be lived for Christ.

Coming from a poor family, at the age of fourteen, he could not continue his schooling, and began to work in a shoe-maker’s shop. It was while working in the shop in Old Jerusalem that the Lord called him to the ministry - he was sixteen years old. A year later he began his theological studies at Hurlet Nazarene College near Glasgow, in Scotland. After graduation, he was ordained in 1951. Later that year he returned to the Middle East and began his ministry in Jerusalem, later moving to Amman, Jordan. He was married in April, 1952 to Naomi Pashgian. Samuel and Naomi have five children and four grandchildren.

In the month of October 1952, Samuel Doctorian was called by the Lord to start evangelistic work throughout the Middle East - living by faith as he was not sponsored by any denomination. He was used by the Holy Spirit to bring Revival to Aleppo, Beirut, Cyprus and Damascus, and when he went to Egypt he had a revival ministry all over the land that brought tens of thousands to Christ. As a result of a vision, he began the Bible Land Mission in 1959. The Lord has used him in many countries all over the Middle East, Europe, North and South America and other parts of the world to bring a breath of revival. He has led people of all walks of life to the Lord, from Eastern refugees to a European princess. He has been to over 125 countries of the world in all seven Continents.

From Beirut and Jerusalem, Samuel Doctorian seeks to spread the Gospel over the Bible Lands by every possible means, and extend his revival ministry around the world. He has preached for every one of the larger Protestant denominations, and in many Catholic and Orthodox churches too. On two occasions he has preached to Members of Parliament in the House of Commons in London. He is undoubtedly a preacher anointed by the Holy Spirit, and as he preaches with such fervor and power there is always a ready response in his hearers to the Word of God. His messages are colored with vivid illustrations from his personal experiences in many parts of the world. In addition to the unction of the Holy Spirit, Samuel Doctorian exercises a ministry of healing that has brought positive help to many thousands.

This autobiography, “The Life Story of Samuel Doctorian begins at Calvary” has sold in the thousands, in many languages around the world. Many people have expressed their appreciation of Samuel DoctorianÂ’s ministry. A pastor has said, after a week of meetings in his church, “We shall never be the same again after having him with us.” This has been said innumerable times. To God be the Glory.

Edited August 8, 2013 by man

[Arpa]

You are not only blind, you are also deaf.

Didn't I say that I knew the family when it was named Hekimian/Hakimian. No missionaries were involved in the name change. We also had heard rumors that his father was in fact an Asori/Assyrian, i.e not ethnic Armenian.

No harm done. Rev Doghramji's father was Assori, mother and wife Armenian.

Edited August 8, 2013 by Arpa

[man]

"hakim" is a Turkish word which mean a doctor of medicine. Kudos for changing his name to a non-Turkish one: Doctorian. In USA its easy to change your name, just give a couple of dollars to a judge and you can get a new name. I wish all Armenians would do like Samuel Doctorian in America then those strange sounding "Armenian" surnames that originated in Central Asia will be a thing of the past. Speaking of emancipation of the Armenians from under Turkish control.

[Arpa]

"hakim" is a Turkish word which mean a doctor of medicine. Kudos for changing his name to a non-Turkish one: Doctorian. In USA its easy to change your name, just give a couple of dollars to a judge and you can get a new name. I wish all Armenians would do like Samuel Doctorian in America then those strange sounding "Armenian" surnames that originated in Central Asia will be a thing of the past. Speaking of emancipation of the Armenians from under Turkish control.

Wash your mouth with detergent and Clorox.

Hakim is not furkish. It is Arabic to mean wise man/physician.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakim

Edited August 8, 2013 by Arpa

[man]

I do not know Arabic, in Arabic "hakim" may mean wise guy but I heard in Turkish it means a doctor of medicine. Did the Turks took that word from Arabs and referred by it to doctors of medicine? It would not make too much different, let Armenians emancipate from Arabs also by changing their Arabic sounding names to Armenian ones. No wonder in Armenia the ones like you are called in your back as Turks and Arabs and not as Armenian, though we will abstain from calling you by that name in the upon on your face.

[man]

..and certainly your are immature person Arpa. You keep finding and pointing to mistakes in my writings, and then telling me to do this to do that; any mature person would not do that: will not go after mistakes and point them and will not tell to do things. I do not want to waste my time with an immature like you.

I know I have been among Armenians and those character traits of finding faults and telling to do thing in hygiene or otherwise is like a plague among the Armenians from Turkey and Arab lands. Originally they were not like that but learned and absorbed it from Arabs & Turks.

Edited August 8, 2013 by man

[Sip]

You keep finding and pointing to mistakes in my writings, and then telling me to do this to do that; any mature person would not do that:

 

Yes, how dare you Arpa? I'm with man on this

[Yervant1]

Yervant1: There was an Armenian pastor in Pasadena, CA, pasturing the Nazarene church there, Samuel Doctorian, his father a survivor of Genocide 1915. I read his biography and he tells Jesus spoke to him, and very few time appeared to him. So Jesus is ALIVE and He speaks and acts. Now his church is pastured by his son, give it a try!

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Isn't it funny that you believe everyone that claims that Jesus spoke with them as long they say things that are in line with your line of thought, but when I say that Jesus spoke with me you dispute it. As for trying it, I did more than fifteen years and it led me to my present thinking because of charlatans and hypocrites that have taken over in any denomination church. I think I said enough already.

Edited August 9, 2013 by Yervant1

[Harut]

Unfortunately Armenia and Armenians haven't been immune to the cancer of Christianity so it is entirely understandable that such bull crap keeps popping up from time to time. If nothing else, it makes for some fun times (at the expense of the poster of such information .

 

I still believe the real God of fire, the Sun God (not the God Son), is coming back to save us all. You want to think of it as "Hell" but the fact is we worshiped Hell and the fire it brings long before Jesus showed up to screw things up.

 

Doesn't that happen every morning? And where I live, it does create hell alright...

[man]

Yervant1: This is in reply to your statement

 

"Isn't it funny that you believe everyone that claims that Jesus spoke with them as long they say things that are in line with your line of thought, but when I say that Jesus spoke with me you dispute it. As for trying it, I did more than fifteen years and it led me to my present thinking because of charlatans and hypocrites that have taken over in any denomination church. I think I said enough already."

 

The importance is the veneration of Jesus, bowing your knees before Him and venerate Him, or falling on your face before Him. I started as a child venerating Jesus then growing up I departed from the cross and I did suffer. Then came back to venerating and acknowledging Him as my Lord and Savior and reading the Bible. Jesus establishes a personal relationship with a believer on this basis of veneration and not on someone's church membership or doing works for someone's own salvation in place of looking at Jesus and focusing on Jesus.

 

For veneration Jesus you do not have to go to church regularly, IT IS A MATTER OF YOUR HEART or in your heart. There are many church building when Jesus comes knocking on their doors to let Him in, He is refused entry. We have to use our discernment.

[Sip]

This is what completely fascinates me about religion ... it's stories like yours, man! You take this complete and utter garbage, and let it into your heart and mind .. and it starts making you feel good! It's like a bad drug that once it cripples you with its highly potent and addictive nature, you just can never let go of it. It will make you feel great ...you will start craving more and more of it ... you will make any and all excuses to justify why it is soooo good.

 

But to what end? Then one day, you discover you lived your whole life fooling yourself in a fantasy ... so what did you do? Did you really live?

[Yervant1]

Just like before, whenever we go into the discussion of Religion, we always end up going in circles without getting any answers to the questions asked. It's not any different this time around.

[man]

The ANTICHRIST WILL CLAIM TO BE THE REAL JESUS CHRIST and SAY JESUS CHRIST WHO CAME SOME 2000 YEARS AGO IS THE REAL ANTICHRIST. Jesus will not come a second time in flesh

 

 

They will convince My followers to adapt the Laws of My Church by holding a referendum

Wednesday, July 31st, 2013

My dearly beloved daughter, always remember how the devil works. He is very careful not to reveal himself. He, therefore, mixes truths and lies together, in order to confuse. This is his favourite way to deceive souls. He would never tell the truth, by allowing others to see how he really is, but because he is proud, his arrogance and his hatred for Me will always seep out. Those whose eyes are open will immediately recognize the insults, which are thrown in My Face and before My altars.

Satan, remember, is proud, arrogant, boastful and very, very cunning. When he is present in souls, he has a confidence, which is borne out of pride and arrogance and a belief that he is above God. He will always give signs, which insult God, but only those who know what to look for will see them. Those who honour Satan, and who spend much of their time in groups which organize rituals to pay homage to him, will be delighted to see these signs. All who have sold their souls to Satan will communicate, through such signs, as an arrogant and defiant gesture against Me, Jesus Christ.

Those who deceive you, in My Name, will convince My followers to adapt the Laws of My Church, by holding a referendum. All will be asked to condone new practices, which amount to two things. The first is to wipe out My Presence in the Holy Eucharist. The second is to condone sin, by encouraging people to show sympathy for the human rights of those who do not believe in Jesus Christ.

This referendum will be falsified and lies will be presented as the Truth. When the new one world religion is introduced, My Church on Earth – the True Church – will go into hiding, in order to pay homage to Me.

I Am the target of the beast. I Am Who he wants to hurt. He knows he cannot destroy Me, so he will instead try to destroy the human race, who he curses every second. His servant will not stop by just insulting My Presence in the Tabernacles of the world. They will not be happy to destroy only the Sacraments, so that they can blaspheme against Me. They will only be happy when they steal souls by creating the greatest blasphemy of all. This is when they will recreate My First Coming by giving the impression that John the Baptist has been sent. The man who will say he is the Lord’s prophet will lie and cause such wonder when he declares that the antichrist is Me, Jesus Christ.

The antichrist will, through the power of Satan, claim to be Me, Jesus Christ. Woe to those souls who welcome him into their arms, for they will be powerless against him. Allow these two to suck you into their vacuum of lies and you will be so far removed from Me that only by the Intervention of My Father can you be brought into My Great Mercy.

When anyone who comes in the future, and claims to be Me, Jesus Christ, know that he is a liar. I will not come in the flesh a second time. Satan cannot utter these words:

“Jesus Christ, Who came in the flesh.”

What he will say, through the mouth of the beast, the antichrist, will be the following:

“I am Jesus Christ, I have now come in the flesh, to bring you salvation.”

When this happens My Divine Intervention will be swift, but by then the false prophet and the antichrist will have stolen many souls.

Pray, pray, pray that all those who say they are Mine remain Mine.

Pray that you will all have the strength and courage to carry My Cross during the greatest persecution of My Body – My Mystical Body – My Church on Earth at this time.

Your Jesus
http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com/they-will-convince-my-followers-to-adapt-the-laws-of-my-church-by-holding-a-referendum/

 

 

 

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"The hatred, which ensues as the Word of God devours souls, is at its worst. When these Messages attract such hatred and wicked actions, by those who call themselves true disciples of my Son, know then that it is the evil one who causes this. My poor souls, my poor confused children, you must never turn your back when you are unsure of my Son’s Words. You must keep an open mind and remain true to what He taught you. Do not judge anyone in His Name. Love one another. If you do not believe that God has sent His final prophet, then it does not matter. Please remember though, your obligation – by carrying out your duties to my Son, by adhering strictly to His Teachings."

More in link:

http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com/mother-of-salvation-just-as-the-holy-word-of-god-can-unite-souls-so-too-can-it-cause-great-division/

[man]

This is what completely fascinates me about religion ... it's stories like yours, man! You take this complete and utter garbage, and let it into your heart and mind .. and it starts making you feel good! It's like a bad drug that once it cripples you with its highly potent and addictive nature, you just can never let go of it. It will make you feel great ...you will start craving more and more of it ... you will make any and all excuses to justify why it is soooo good.

 

But to what end? Then one day, you discover you lived your whole life fooling yourself in a fantasy ... so what did you do? Did you really live?

Acts 2: 12,13 "And they all continued in amazement and great perplexity, saying to one another, 'what does this mean?'But others were mocking [like you Sip] and saying, 'They are full of sweet wine.'”

 

Did I really live? This life is like a vapor, one minute hunging in the air and then in another minute the vapor is not there. We must first seek Jesus Christ where the fulness of life is; not only the current life we are living in but the life coming after that --the eternal life that Jesus gives.

 

Is it soooo good? Well, it is not easy life, there are obastacles to overcome like in a race. One has to be up to the challenge, but knowing Jesus is besides and in you --makes it worthwhile.

 

And knowing Jesus is there at your death-bed waiting for you...

This physical body of our is like a coat, a peace of cloth, we put it on OUR REAL SELF known as spirit or soul. So life is more than you and more than you experienced here. God Bless you and the others.

[man]

A recent article is showing which way Francis' Vatican is going

http://www.pressherald.com/life/pope-francis-revolution-draws-criticism_2013-08-03.html?pagenum=full

Some line from it which confirm the messages given here by Jesus

 

Pope Francis revolution draws criticism The new pontiff has charmed millions, but the enthusiasm isn't shared across the board.

Aug 3. 2013

 

The Francis Revolution is under way. Not everyone is pleased.

Four months into his papacy, Francis has called on young Catholics to shake up a dusty, doctrinaire church that is losing faithful and relevance..

And he has turned the Vatican upside down, quite possibly knocking the wind out of a poisonously homophobic culture by merely uttering the word "gay" and saying: So what?

 

Francis' predecessor, Benedict XVI, had coddled traditionalist Catholics attached to the old Latin Mass and opposed to the modernizing reforms of the Second Vatican Council. That group greeted Francis' election with concern -- and now is watching its worst fears come true.

Francis has spoken out publicly and privately against such "restoratist groups," which he accuses of being navel-gazing retrogrades...

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Pope Francis is unsettling and dividing the Catholic right

Aug 8, 2013

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith/pope-francis-is-unsettling-_-and-dividing-_-the-catholic-right/2013/08/07/0f0e503c-ff72-11e2-8294-0ee5075b840d_story.html

 

in a few short months, Pope Francis has upended that dynamic, alienating many on the Catholic right by refusing to play favorites and ignoring their preferred agenda items even as he stressed the kind of social justice issues that are near and dear to progressives.

 

“How can I love a Pope who doesn’t even want to be Pope?” Katrina Fernandez, a popular conservative blogger, wrote in a column about her disillusionment.

[man]

By the "false prophet" is meant pope Francis here

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Mother of Salvation: Do not accept tolerance for pagans, to take over the churches of God

Tuesday, August 6th, 2013

My child, you must never listen to those who attack these Messages from the Blessed Trinity, for they will distract you from this Work. Remember, this Mission will be attacked more than any other, because of the seriousness of it. The mockery, the ridicule and the criticism, will continue right up to the last day when you receive the Final Message.

The plan to discredit these Messages will intensify and hatred will mount, so please be prepared. These Messages cannot be ignored by believers, or unbelievers, for the Word of God will never go unnoticed. The hatred against God in the world right now is everywhere and those who proclaim His Word in these times will suffer.

The Truth has always been rejected since God sent His prophets in the beginning to warn His children of the dangers of paganism. Paganism is the antithesis of the Truth – the Word of God. Those poor souls, who honour false Gods, anger My Father, greatly. He is a jealous God, for it was through Him that all things began. He is Almighty. He is a loving God, but His Wrath is to be feared when pagans infest those who love Him.

When God’s children – those who believe in Him, and who adore Him, through His beloved Son, Jesus Christ, try to unite with all souls, all religions, they must be very careful. God wants all of His children to love one another, irrespective of race, creed or nation. What He will not permit is that Christians embrace pagans, within their church. When this happens, the heathen will wipe out all traces of Christianity. It is insulting to God, to take the Truth – the Word of God – and leave room for lies to contaminate it.

God’s prophets warned humanity of the dangers of embracing paganism, as it leads to complete destruction. When this happens, the nations who allow this abomination into their churches will be wiped out, with little Mercy shown.

Do not accept tolerance for pagans to take over the churches of God. You must never forget the great Sacrifice made by God when He sent His only Son to bring you salvation. The day that you accept the practices of other churches, not of God, or when you show respect for pagans, is the day when you will turn your back on the Truth.

Keep your eyes open and pray that your churches will not force you to forgo your allegiance to Jesus Christ.

Your beloved Mother

Mother of Salvation

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Mother of Salvation: This war, to uphold the Word of God, will mean that those priests, who do remain true to Him, will have to seek refuge

Monday, August 5th, 2013

My dear children, this is going to be a time of great trials in your faith. The Catholic Church will be the Church in which the great division will commence. It will be in this Church that My Son’s priests will suffer the most, during the great apostasy, which it will, very soon, have to endure from within.

To those of my Son’s faithful priests, who will be torn in two by indecision, you must be aware of the need to remain in union with the Merciful Christ. You must never feel tempted to desert His Church, by accepting falsities from those amongst you who have fallen into grave error. You must revere my Son at all costs and lead His people on the path to holiness, no matter how difficult this will be for you.

Those of you who will continue to perform the traditional Mass will be tormented until you agree to abandon it entirely. Many amongst your religious orders will betray you to the enemy behind your back. You will, just like my Son before you, be taken before those who claim to be your peers and be accused of heresy, for insisting on continuing to show respect for the most Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.

The new words, which will amount to the most vile desecration of my Son’s Body, will be forced down upon those sacred servants who dare to object.

It will be within the Catholic Church that brother will fight brother, sister against sister, father against son, children against parent, until there are two sides.

This war, to uphold the Word of God, will mean that those priests, who do remain true to Him, will have to seek refuge. To do this you must start preparing and find such places where you will be able to offer the Holy Mass and provide the Sacraments to God’s children.

I, the Mother of Salvation, will protect such refuges and by the placement of the Seal of the Living God, given to the world by My Father, on the inside walls, they will remain invisible to the enemies of God.

Do not be afraid of these things, because if you prepare well, you will lead God’s children to salvation. Should you not heed this warning, you will be taken captive in mind, body and soul, by the enemies of my Son and salvation will not be yours.

Those who do the bidding of the false prophet will need much prayer, for some of them are blind to the Truth. Others, who will know the Truth, but who will side with those who will deny my Son’s death on the Cross, are to be feared. They will inflict terrible harm on the innocent followers of Christ.

By remaining loyal to the Truth, you will lead my Son’s Remnant Army, so that it becomes a formidable force, against the evil one and those he directs in his fight against my Son’s true servants on Earth.

You must, when the time comes, refuse to accept direction from those who will desecrate the Word of God and through their lies and new obscene doctrines, will mislead many. Those who accept any distortion of the Mass or the Holy Sacraments, will be answerable to my Son. For you will have become, unwitting, servants to the evil one and many, many, souls will be lost, for they will be drawn into rituals, which will pay homage to Satan. These rituals will honour the false prophet and the antichrist, who are enemies of God.

Pray, pray, pray that the Truth will be seen and that lies will be exposed for what they are – an affront to my Son’s agonizing Crucifixion.

Your beloved Mother, Mother of Salvation

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When you defend My Word, you will be deemed to be cruel, unkind and lacking in sympathy to those who do not believe in God

Monday, August 5th, 2013

My dearly beloved daughter, how I weep with sadness when I see the terrible division which looms within My Church on Earth. The bitterness of My Agony is eased though, by those who truly love Me and who already feel concern for the way in which My Body is being treated.

You must never feel the need to accept any deed, action or words which are against Me. If you feel uncomfortable with what you witness, within my Church, by those who swear that they are in union with Me, when they desecrate My Body, you must follow your heart. I Am with you every second of this great apostasy and for those who will continue to call out to Me, I will open your eyes to the Truth, so that you will remain true to Me.

The time is almost upon you now. The doors of My Church will soon be closed to those who will insist on remaining loyal to the traditional practices of Christianity. These doors will be slammed in your faces when you bear witness to Me. Your faith will be ridiculed, in the most cunning way, so that when you defend My Word, you will be deemed to be cruel, unkind and lacking in sympathy to those who do not believe in God.

You will be scolded if you are a sacred servant of Mine and you will be made to answer for your allegiance to Me. Gather now, all of you. I demand that you do not deny Me. I will protect you, so that you can serve Me. I will help you by lifting your burden. All the Graces of Heaven will be poured down upon you.

Warning to Priests:

I will cut down all those of you who follow the false church – the church of the beast – when it is presented to you. Follow this new church and you will be selling your souls to the beast. Instead of saving souls, in My Name, you will be responsible for handing them over to eternal Hell.

I Am telling you the Truth now, so that you are given ample time to prepare for this day, as it is not far away.

Your Jesus

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When they change the Sacrament of Baptism, they will remove all promises to renounce Satan for they will declare these references to be old-fashioned

Monday, August 5th, 2013

My dearly beloved daughter, let no man believe during the persecution, which My beloved sacred servants – who remain loyal to Me – will have to endure, that My Church can ever die. For this is impossible. My Church – My Mystical Body – has Eternal Life.

When My enemies change the Sacraments and introduce new relics, new crosses and new practices – and then say that My Church remains as it has always been – they are lying. My Church can never change.

So many arguments will be made, in every nation, in order to defile the Sacrament of Marriage. They, the enemies of God, want Christians to accept marriage between couples of the same sex, but they must never accept this, as it offends My Father. It is not acceptable in His Eyes. When they change the Sacrament of Baptism, they will remove all promises to renounce Satan, for they will declare these references to be old-fashioned and too frightening. They will say it is irrelevant.

Then they will, bit by bit, introduce new versions of My Teachings. You, all of you who believe in My Church, must never betray Me. You must never accept any substitute for the Sacraments as I gave them to you. I Am the Truth. My Church represents the Truth. But you can only claim to be part of My Church if you retain all of My Teachings, My Sacraments and accept that My death on the Cross was the greatest Sacrifice to secure your salvation.

Anything, which deviates from the Truth, for fear of insulting pagans, is very dangerous. When you deny the Teachings of God and follow a new, alternative Church, you will no longer remain part of My Church on Earth. If you object to the new pagan practices, which will be introduced by the false prophet, you will be deemed a heretic. Then they will try to excommunicate you, in My Name. If you remain loyal to Me and refuse to take part in this wicked deceit, you will remain part of My Church.

The choice may be painful, when all these things come about, but it is very simple. You are either for Me or against Me.

Your Jesus
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God the Father: The names of those in the Book of the Living are the primary target of the beast

Saturday, August 3rd, 2013

My dearest daughter, I Call on humanity from the Highest and Most Holy Realm.

My poor little children, how you suffer for the sin of Lucifer, but you must know that, by My Almighty Power, I will wipe him and all the fallen angels off the face of the Earth. That time is close, so you must prepare.

Know that the fallen angels and demons are unknown and invisible to most of you, but they walk amongst you, tempting you every day so that you will fall. When you are taken into this web of deceit, soon you will find that you will be unable to rest or find true peace in your souls.

I declare that those who are led astray by the false prophet will find themselves lost and confused as they accept the great deceit, in which they will become willing victims. When you turn on Me and My beloved Son, Jesus Christ, it will not appear to you that this is the case. You will believe that the Sacraments are the same, although they will be presented to you differently. They will become empty vessels and will no longer be acceptable by Me.

The world is Mine, yet My children do not want Me, their beloved Father, their Creator. Their minds have been blocked and the evil one has used My Gift of intelligence to tempt them into believing that I could not possibly Exist. Those who do not believe in Me will have no real love, joy or peace in their lives. Nor will they accept Eternal Life. Instead, they will seek out only pleasures of the flesh, although they know that their lives on Earth are short.

I will, as a Father Who loves each of them, pull them to Me through the Great Mercy of My Son. My Power is all-encompassing and Satan, My Lucifer, who cut himself away from My Hip, because of his pride, will never defeat Me. Those who follow him, therefore, have driven the same wedge between themselves and Me. They will know by the signs I now reveal that there is only One God, One Creator, one Paradise. All the paradises they are told about, by the false prophets in the world, who lead My children away from Me, do not, nor can they ever exist. I Am all there is. I created all. I will end all. All must be according to My Holy Will. Fight My Will and you will become nothing. Accept My Will and you remain My child.

To those who do believe in Me, you must never reject My Son, Jesus Christ. I came into the world through My Son to bring you back into My Mercy, but you rejected Him. You killed Him, but still you never killed My Love for you. This is why I allowed His Crucifixion to bring you salvation. This, My Son’s death on the Cross, became your way to salvation. His death was not what it seemed – a failure in the eyes of the evil one. It was through this act of great suffering, endured with the greatest humility, which defeated Satan. And it was because of My Son’s death on the Cross, that Satan’s power over humanity failed. Even though he cannot take all of My children with him into the abyss, many will still be seduced by his lies. This is why you must fight, children, not just for your own souls. If you love Me, you will love My Son. If you love My Son, then you must help Him to save all sinners.

I Call on you to tell you that when I Call on souls, especially those who do not know Me, as well as those who do know Me, but who refuse to accept My Commandments, that they have only so much time to save themselves from eternal torture.

The names of those in the Book of the Living are the primary target of the beast. Many of these souls are followers of My Son and are loyal to the Church. They will turn on My Son by accepting new laws, not of My Son, which they will be forced to swallow as a new religion. This new religion has been carefully planned for many years. It follows Satanic rituals, but many will not understand this. When you embrace these rituals, you will give power to Satan. When you give him this power, you will need much prayer, for he will devour you in body as well as in soul.

My children, I intervene now through punishments on the Earth. The poor souls who lose their lives through these chastisements are helping to save those of you who are lost to Me.

When you feel frightened by the wickedness of Satan and his influence in your lives, remember that I will destroy his representatives on Earth. I will cut short your suffering, because I wish to save souls. If I allowed this evil to continue, I would not be able to salvage all those souls whose names are in the Book of the Living.

Your beloved Father

God the Most High

[man]

God the Father: The antichrist is now ready to reveal himself

Wednesday, August 7th, 2013

 

My dearest daughter,

the world must prepare for the arrival of the greatest enemy of humanity since My children were placed on this Earth.

 

The antichrist is now ready to reveal himself and his plan is this. He will wait until wars rage everywhere. Then he will step in and create a false peace in the state of Israel by joining them with Palestine in an unlikely alliance. Everyone will lavish praise on him. He will not stop there, for he will move at a pace which will astonish many and he will negotiate peace agreements in many war-torn nations. Again, he will be praised and then be admired, with an extraordinary devotion by billions all over the world.

 

Then all will seem well. Very soon he will become involved with philanthropy and he will link up with the main world banks to create a new, powerful, financial institution. Many businesses and political leaders will become embroiled with his many plans. Soon a new monstrosity will be created, in the name of kick-starting the world’s economy. This will be the new Babylon, the centre of all power, from which the world’s elite and rich will trade. It will be seen to be the source of great news, so that people will benefit in every way from jobs, to the homes they live in and to the food they feed their families with.

 

All glory will surround the antichrist. Then he will, along with the false prophet, create a global partnership, which will be presented as the greatest humanitarian initiative. The world will applaud this new Babylon and everyone will clamour to try and gain even just a tiny foothold within its centre.

 

The new Babylon, all will be told, is to glorify the great one, to promote the environment, to embrace mother earth and to rid the world of poverty from the riches, which will pour from its vile mouth.

When this takes place, the Hand of My intervention will turn the world on its axis. I Am not going to stand by without warning My children of the consequences of embracing this abomination, created in the depths of Hell and inflicted upon humanity. My great signs will be given to show all those who embrace and accept this insult in My Holy Name.

 

I will shake the world and it will tilt. No man will be able to ignore My intervention. Then I will throw fire upon one third of the Earth. Soon, famine will be seen, but not by My Hand – it will be by the deliberate contamination of the Earth by the antichrist. As he and his cohorts inflict wickedness upon unsuspecting people in many nations, I will strike back.

 

While this suffering will be hard to endure, have no fear, children, for it will be short. My Love is great for all of you, but My Justice is swift and My punishment great.

 

You must not accept what is brought before you. When you see the man of peace, the antichrist, receive accolades and awards for his great works in war-torn countries, know that My Intervention is close.

 

You must remain in union with My Son, Jesus Christ, at all times and pray that the Sacraments will be made available to you by loyal priests and clergy during the times of trials which lie before you.

My Will, will be done.

 

Nothing can, nor will, stop the Final Covenant where My Son will Reign in Peace from being fulfilled.

Your beloved Father

God the Most High

 

[man]

NOTE: in the name of justice=in the name of social justice

false prophet=currant pope

 

They will be asked to pledge their allegiance, through a new oath, to remain faithful to the Church

Sunday, August 18th, 2013

 

My dearly beloved daughter,

the plan by the false prophet to deceive the world’s clergy has begun.

 

Under the guise of a renewal and regeneration of the Catholic Church, all the clergy, within this Church, will be sent on retreats to encourage them to accept the new apostolate. These will become widespread and many will be told that the objective is to unite everyone in the world, in the name of justice. This new mission will, they will be told, embrace the world’s poor and strive to bring about unity. They will be asked to pledge their allegiance, through a new oath, to remain faithful to the Church. They will not be asked to place their faith in Me or My Holy Word. Instead, they will swear allegiance to the new self-proclaimed leaders who have taken over the Chair of Peter.

 

Make no mistake that those who have been bestowed with the Gift of Holy Orders will be asked to participate in a falsity, where I, Jesus Christ, will not be at the forefront, though it will appear to be the case. Money will be a driving force and a new financial organization will be set up to control the seeking of funds to ensure that the world’s poor will benefit.

 

When you amend your Holy Orders, in any way, and then pledge your life to someone who breaks all ties with Me, you will no longer be fit to serve Me. Everything will be seen to be made simple in the Eyes of God. The plan will be to convince those sacred servants of Mine to take part, willingly, in the abomination, which will link society and a secular world with the Church, which was set up by Me, Jesus Christ.

 

This is how I will be insulted. Every effort to embrace secularism will be applauded by non-believers and this will be seen to be a good thing, for the new, so-called modern society of today.

 

It will soon seem strange to Christians when they see members of the secular world embrace the Catholic Church, so enthusiastically. But many will brush off their doubts and dismiss their concerns, as they will fall for the great deceit. At the kernel of this plan to revolutionize the Church lies a hatred for Me and everything that I gave My Church. You must question everything in the days ahead. Demand answers when they change My Teachings and twist them to suit pagans. No disciple, appointed by Me, would ever be given the authority to do this, for it amounts to blasphemy.

 

Woe to those who allow My Holy Word to be tampered with and allow room to be set aside to show respect for those who deny Me.

Your Jesus

 

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[man]

1 Corinthians 2:14

"a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness

to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised"

[man]

 

Mother of Salvation: The antichrist, upon his announcement, will declare that he is a devout Christian

Friday, August 23rd, 2013

 

My child, how Christians will suffer as the disease of sin engulfs the world everywhere in many guises.

 

There is an organized attempt being made to wipe out Christianity and this takes many forms. You will know that when Christians are denied the right to publicly declare their allegiance to God, that every other creed, not of God, will be permitted to do so. These other creeds will be given great support when they plead for justice, in the name of their rights as citizens. What this will do is to spread further the sins which are abhorrent to my Father.

 

People will be forced to accept sin in their countries and it will become an offense for Christians to object to these laws. Christians will be viewed as being uncharitable, right wing and out of touch with the human rights of others. Every trait, desirable in souls, as laid down by my Father, will be used as a front in their efforts to justify such wickedness in your nations.

 

When disease of the flesh grips a community, it kills many. But, after a time of great sorrow and many deaths, the remaining community becomes immune to the disease. Sin will cause disease of the flesh in many nations, as the judgements of the Seals are declared by the Saviour of humanity and poured down by the angels of the Lord. Many will be killed in atonement for the wickedness of man. This purification will continue until there will remain only those who are immune to death because of their love for God.

 

Christians will suffer greatly in a number of ways. Their faith will be taken away from them and in its place an abomination will be witnessed. Their pain, which has already begun, is the same as that experienced by my Son, at this time. Then, they will have to witness an astonishing sight, as the antichrist, upon his announcement, will declare that he is a devout Christian.

 

He will use many extracts from the Bible in his speeches to the world. Weary Christians, who suffered up to this, will suddenly be relieved. At last, they will think, here is a man sent from Heaven in answer to their prayers. Out of his mouth will spill many sweet and comforting words and he will appear to be a godsend, in that he will be seen to amend the wrongs against Christians. He will carefully construct how he is perceived by Christians and especially Roman Catholics, for these will be his main target.

 

All will admire the antichrist and his so-called christian acts, gestures and his perceived love of Holy Scripture will make him instantly acceptable by many. He will draw all nations together and set about holding ceremonies for other religions and, in particular, pagan organizations, so that they can work together to bring about world peace. He will succeed in uniting countries, which had been enemies up till then. Silence will be heard in war torn countries and his image will appear everywhere. His final, great achievement will be when he brings all those nations he unites, into the domain of the Catholic Church and all other Christian denominations. This unification will form the new, one world religion. From that day forth, Hell will break loose on Earth and the influence of demons will be at its greatest level since before the great flood. People will be seen to adore God in the new, one world order church and appear to be devout in every way. Then outside of the churches they will indulge in sin openly, for no sin will shame them. Under the hypnotic direction of the false trinity – the trinity created by Satan – they will crave every kind of sin as a means to sustain their newfound appetite.

 

This wickedness will include sins of the flesh, where nakedness will be acceptable, as man will become involved in obscene sins of the flesh in public places. Murders will be common and committed by many, including children.

 

Satanic worship and black masses will take place in many Catholic Churches. Abortion will be seen as a solution for every kind of problem and will be permitted right up to the day of birth.

 

It will soon become a criminal offence to show any kind of allegiance to Jesus Christ. If you are seen with a true Cross you will find that you have committed an offense, because you will be breaking the law. The law in your lands will become a dual law – where politics and religion will be entwined in the new world order.

 

This persecution will mean that many, unknowingly, will adore the beast and become infested. So infested will they become that they will betray brother, sister, mother and father, to the authorities, if they should remain loyal to Christianity. Your only hope, children, is prayer to sustain you through this period.

 

I urge you to keep all holy objects, rosary beads, blessed candles, holy water, a copy of the Bible and the holy daily Missal along with the Crusade of Prayer book. You must keep the Seal of the Living God in your home and on you if possible. My Medal of Salvation will convert those who wear it and they will be shown Mercy by my Son. I now request you, child, to have the Medal of Salvation produced now and a Scapular of the Seal of the Living God made.

 

This Message is a warning from Heaven of things to come. You must listen to me, the Mother of Salvation, as I must guide you to the Truth, so that you will remain truly faithful to my Son at all times.

 

Go in peace, children, and be calm as this trial will, because of the Mercy of God, be short. Trust in me, your Mother, as I will be with you always during your trials. You will never be alone.

Your Mother

Mother of Salvation