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Vorqan hishum em sa arajin banasteghtsutyunnerits er (Sevaki grchin patkanogh) vor indz matutsvets aveli manuk hasakum. Yes ayn petq e asmunqei mer dprotsi bemits ... Ayd jamanak gaghapar angam chuni vor karogh e ays hrashali banasteghtsutyun@ nayev unenal havasarachap hrashali yev zarmanali patmutyun ... vor@ aha nerkayatsnum em dzez ...

 

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Nax banasteghtsutyun@ ...

 

Namak

 

Na e grum inds?

Te yes em grum im harazatin?

Inqs el chgitem.

"Ardyoq qez yerb em, yerb em tesnelu...?

Dzmer u amar, ashun u garun...

Isk ur e tarva me~r yeghanak@?

Ayn hingerord@..."

 

Na e grum inds?

Te yes em grum im harazatin?

Inqs el chgitem.

"Du nkatel es? dzmer zhamanak

Anhnarin e antsnel antari ayn tsanot teghov,

Vorov antsel es amran orerin,

Qani vor tsrtits sastik kuch galov,

U dzyan beran tak jkvelov x@ghjuk`

Vost u jyugher@ pakum en jampad,

Isk mtnshaghin kam aghjamughjin`

Jankrum en demqd,

Achqid sparnum:

Yes qaylum ey aghjamughji mej,

U qaylum ei nayev mtatsir:

Mtatsir ardyoq, mtampop ardyoq?

Mite nuyn@ che?

U yes haskatsa,

Vor yerb huzvats enq`

Menq taqtsnum enq mer xeghj dzerqer@,

Yerb anvstah enq`

Menq taqtsnum enq mer xeghj votqer@.

Isk yerb en mardik taqtsnum demq@?

Gutse amotits?

(Yes che~m amachum im siro hamar)

Gutse karotits?

(Yes uzum em qez tesnel ba~ts achqov):

Gutse jankrtogh jyugherits ays char?

Gutse ays tsrtits? vor jkum e inds

Yev stipum e kuch gal xeghjoren

(Kuch gal em uzum qo~ teveri tak)" ...

 

Na e avartum, te yes nra tegh@?

Inqs el chgitem.

"Im ays hartserin mi~ patasxanir,

Bayts patasxanir lok im me~k hartsin:

Garun@ antsav` yes qez chtesa,

Amar@ antsav` yes qez chtesa,

Ashun@ antsav` chtesa yes qez,

Dzmern el kantsni` chem tesni yes qez...

Isk ur e tarva me~r yeghanak@,?

Ayn hingerord@ ... mite chi galu?" ...

 

P. Sevak

11/1963

Yerevan

 

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Isk hima ...

 

Sulamita Fridberg-i namak@ Sevakin

Vertsvats "Ghoghanj Hishataki" grqits (Hodvatsner, Husher yev Banasteghtsutyunner Sevaki masin)

 

Tankagin Im Satani Jut

 

Bolorn ashxatanqits gnatsel en, yev lur grum em qez, jisht e, t@kt@kum e grameqenas, bayts yev aynpes` mi poqr, vorpes dzayn ... Aysor mer moskovyan bolor tsrteri tsurtn e: Sarchum e amen inch` yev mushtaki drsin@, yev nersin@: Mushtakn im eli nuynn e ... Votnaman-bernatarners` nuynpes ...

 

Ardyoq yerb em yes qez tesnelu? Dzmer yev amar, garun yev ashun ... Isk vortegh e tarva hingerord yeghanak@? Shat karevor@, mer yeghanak@ ...

 

Nkatel es du? ardyoq, vor ayntes, ur amran@ du hangist antsnum eir tsareri jyugheri takov, hima grete anantsaneli e. nranq tsrtits sarchelov kuch en galis, kranum shat aveli nerqev, yev yete m@t@nshaghin antsnes, jankrotum en demqd: Isk yete mtasuyz es, da klini hants Astso patizh ...

 

Menq huzmunqits taqtsnum enq dzerqners, anharmarutyunits` votners, inchu mardiq yerbeq chen taqtsnum demqer@? ... miayn huzmunqits` yev ayn el mi ropeov ...

 

Shat tsavali e ... Tsavali e, vor qez nerkayatsrel en mrtsanaki ... Nranq, ovqer kkardan girq@, kasen` vochinch, ba~yts ... Isk ovqer kkaroghanan kardal yev haskanal "qezavari", nrants mrtsanakner chen shnorhum: Yev krkin du` aporini tsnund, ov giti? ...

 

Girqd chem karoghanum dzerq berel, mez mot xanutnerum ayn chi yeghel, isk bazayi mi qani orinakner@ trtsrel en, aynes vor spasum en qo "havatarmutyan":

 

Shutov qez skselu en mez mot tpagrel, aynpes for hatuk @ntrir mi voch mets sharq yev ugharkir ... ktargmanen kam Mezhelaytis@, kam, bolor depqerum, voreve mek@ lavaguynnerits: Da kkochvi "Zhoghovurdneri Barekamutyun" ... Yev da klini qo arajin yert@ im janaparhnerov depi indz:

 

Yes misht sirum en qez, isk verjers qich mnats xelqs trtsnei ... Da, yerb du indz het xosum eir studiayits, qo bolorin anhaskanali lezvov, ayn hazaravor aravotnerits mekn er, yerb yes miatsnum em radion yev, aynuamenayniv, linum en heqiatner ... Isk yes lsum u lalis ei, yeto im ashxatakitsnern asatsin` banasteghtsutyunits chen lalis ... Ov giti, inchits en lalis? Lats en linum artsunqnerits. aha ayn, aha~ ayn dzayn@, isk radion grkel@ ? inch e?

 

Qo yevs mi nor tarin shnorhavor, im arajin u verjin:

Im namakner@ batsahayts korchum en, nor hastse ugharkir:

 

Qo` S

12/20/1962

 

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Isk hima uzum em nerkayatsnel mi hatvats Nina Hovsepyani "Paruyr Sevak@ Im Husherum" grquykits ... vor aveli lav tsanotanaq ays banasteghtsutyan kensagrutyan@

 

"Tvetsi 'Mard@ Api Mej' -@ yev xndretsi kardal ir amenasirats banasteghtsutyun@:

--Aydpes chi lini, aydpes chem karogh, kkardam sirats banasteghtsutyunneris mek@:

Na e grum inds?

Te yes em grum im harazatin?

Inqs el chgitem.

Kardum er taxtsot, huzvats: Inch er patahel: Girq@ pakets u txu~r - txu~r hayatsqov krknets verjin togher@.

Isk ur e tarva me~r yeghanak@,?

Ayn hingerord@ ... mite chi galu?" ...

Asats, vor inq@ shat e sirum ays banasteghtsutyun@, teyev da karogh e ir steghtsagortsutyun@ ch@hamarel, qani vor banasteghtsutyan mitq@, angam patkernern u togher@ Sulamitayin en patkerum, yerevi banasteghtsi amenamets sirun, vorin na nvirel e ir "Yerg Yergots" poem@ yev mi qani banasteghtsutyunner: Sevak@ lok banastegtsutyan e veratsel Sulamitayi namak@, vor grel e iren` huzvats mi pahi:

--Aynpes vor ays banasteghtsutyan mej voch te yes, ayl na e xosum: Da nra karotn e, nra taxits@, spasum@,-- asum er Paruyr@: Na asats nayev, vor inq@ Sulamitayi het tsanotatsel u mtermatsel e Moskvayum: Yev ayd mtermutyan naxnakan azdak@ yeghel e aghjka anun@` Sulamita:

--Tvats, te dareri xorqits kendanutyun e arel Soghomon imastuni sirelin, partizpani sevaher dustr@ yev kangnel e im dimats: Im Sulamitan el hrea er: Siretsi nran yev ayd orerin, datark grpanov, yes indz arqa ei kartsum, --- huzvats xosq@ yezrapakets Sevak@:

 

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I have also "attempted" to translate the poem to English for those HyeForum members who do not read Armenian. I appologize but I could not translate the other texts also. This translation does not do justice ... but it will give you an overall understanding of the work. Enjoy ...

 

She's writing to me?

Or am I the one writing to my beloved?

I, myself, don't know ...

"I wonder when, when will I see you?

Winter and summer, autumn and spring ...

But where is our season of the year?

The fifth ...

 

She's writing to me?

Or am I the one writing to my beloved?

I, myself, don't know ...

"Have you noticed? during winter times

Its impossible to pass through those familiar places in the forest,

Through which you have passed during summer days,

Because as they contract from the harsh cold

And bend down miserably under the burdensome snow

The branches and twigs block your way,

And at sunset or twilight -

They scratch your face,

Threaten your eyes:

I was walking in the twilight,

And I was walking absent-mindedly:

Absent-mindedly ... maybe thoughtfully ...

Is it not the same?

And I realized,

When we are nervous -

We hide our poor hands,

When we are unsure -

We hide our poor feet -

And when do people hide their face?

Maybe out of shame?

(I am not ashamed because of my love)

Maybe from longing?

(I want to see you with open eyes):

Maybe from these mischievous, scratching branches?

Maybe from this cold that bends me

And forces me to crouch miserably

(I want to crouch under your arms)" ...

 

She's the one ending, or is it me in her place?

I, myself, don't know.

"Don't answer these questions,

But answer just one:

Spring passed - I did not see you,

Summer passed - I did not see you,

Autumn passed - I did not see you,

Winter will pass also - I will not see you ...

But where is our season of the year?

The fifth ...will it never come? ...

 

P. Sevak

11/1963

Yerevan

 

[ March 11, 2001: Message edited by: Sulamita ]

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Thanks Sul for these articles. I have finished reading Sevag ''Ter e~n kulkhen'' (housam vor ays tartsvadzkin imasdu gumpernes).

 

Why are you posting only others work and not trying to write something by your own... Just asking ...

 

Do you know why Sevag wrote his ''Yerk Yerkots''? His other works? Can you post more information about him and his works? Although I know a lot, but there is no harm

to refresh my memory one more time.

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O, Sulamita, I'm afraid you couldn't understand my point. You're write, every artist has to do his job (if he is a real talent, he has no other choice), payts te inchou arvesdaked mu AYTBES gu kre gam gu kdze ir (dvyal) jamanagin mech, ayt e garevoru.

 

Voreve arvesdi kordz (panasdeghdzoutiun, ngar, yerajushdoutiun, kantag, tadron sharjabadger gam ayl) vor oushatroutiunus gu krave, anor arjevoroumu yes gu gadarem hedevyal 3 hartsoumneroun badaskhanelov.-

 

1- Inch ga?

2- Inchou ga?

3- Inchbes ga?

 

Asonts badaskhanu kudnelov nayev kdadz gullam irav arjeku kordzin` arvesdakedin hokegan brismagen ou ir abradz jamanagin poven antsunelov kordzu.

 

Yete oushatir hedevis Sevagi krarman jamanagi hartseroun ou ir kirkeroun untmechen tavanadz arjekneroun, bidi ngades, vor anor POLOR kordzeru nbadagatrvadz yeghadz en yev voch te abroumi mu gam houzoumi mu sosgagan artiunkn en. Sevag vorkan al inknapoukh ou anmichagan, nouynkan al mdadzogh-kidnagan panasdeghdz e. Nouynu bedk e usel nayev ir ''Yerk Yerkots''in masin, vor miayn Hreyouhi Sulamita-i mu siraharvadz ullaloun badmoutiunu che (teyev mageresu ayt e), ayl ampoghch dzrakir mu` azad siro kaghaparin untmechen untertsoghu hghelou tebi Sourp Krayin ''Yerk Yerkots''u, ayt al aynbisi jamanagi mu mech, our voch te martu, ayl mekenan er vor bedaganoren (communism) garjevorver.

 

Sevag Azad Siro yerkichn er, ayo, pavaganin kravich dghamart er (ugly but sexi), ayo, miajamanag gu sirer kani mu gin, ayo, payts an aynkan GENTLEMAN er ir haraperoutiunneroun mech, vor ir siradz ginern al hachoghetsav paregamouhinerou veradzel. Pavaganin tujvar harts` ginerou goghme untounvelou hamar, payts ink hachoghetsav ador mech, badiv iren!

 

Sevagi hamar SERn ou MARTu arantskayin garevoroutiun ouneyin. Yev ink irabes gurtsav louysin perel polor yeresneru anonts` badmagan te Sp Krayin dibarneru gyanki gochelov, inchbes Mesrob Mashdots, Gomidas Vartabed, Sayat Nova...te kezi dzanot kaghtsranoun Sulamitan.

 

Dragon

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quote:
Originally posted by dragon:
Why are you posting only others work and not trying to write something by your own... Just asking ...


Actually I HAVE posted some of my own works. Look for "Poems by A" and "Gisherayin Hyur" under this same link.

quote:
Originally posted by dragon:
Do you know why Sevag wrote his ''Yerk Yerkots''? His other works? Can you post more information about him and his works? Although I know a lot, but there is no harm
to refresh my memory one more time.


What do you mean WHY? Did he have a choice? Why does an artist paint? Why does a composer create music? Because they could not "not to" ...

If you are asking for the story behind each work ... I really can't help you there. It's the poet's own little secret ...

I have posted an FYI on Sevak under this same link. There is also a topic "Paruyr Sevak" that presents some of his poems. I will post more with time.
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Sulamik jan,

Tsadz ari Sevagi shalagitsu...arants kez el na garogh a eli abrel tar ou tarer...

 

Sevagu pilisopa

Sevagu medz martaser

Sevagu kudarar

Sevagu ir jamanagits arach

 

Payts Sevagu nayev degh degh SHADAKHOS keghakidagan aroumov. Hadgabes nra boemnerits gareli a (bedk a) zeghchel hadvadzner, vor purgvi ampoghchoutiunu...Ta inkn el kiter, himi el tou imatsir!

 

Dragon

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Originally posted by dragon:
... payts te inchou arvesdaked mu AYTBES gu kre gam gu kdze ir (dvyal) jamanagin mech, ayt e garevoru.


Qezi het hamamit em vor shat arvestagetnerun hamar jamanak@ karevor e ... bayts yerb xosq@ kverapere Sevakin - jamanak@ arden kditve vorpes xoch@ndot (obsticle) ... Sevak@ ir jamanaken araj tsnats er. Yete kartatsats es "Varq Metsats" tsanot piti @llas as togherun -

Ush ush en galis, bayts voch ushatsats.
Tsnvum en nranq jisht jamanakin:
Yev jamanakits araj en @nknum,
Dra hamar el chen nerum nrants:

Sevak@ angitaktsabar (ardyoq?) as togher@ grats e ir masin (nuynpes). Ayo jamanak@ karevor er bayts voch eakan.

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Originally posted by dragon:

1- Inch ga?
2- Inchou ga?
3- Inchbes ga?


Shat angamner as hartser@ avelord kdarnan (nuynisk anhetet). Sevak hasknalu hamar hark che hartser tal ... qanzi Sevakn inq@ hartser araj kpere vorun patasxan@ kportses pntrel (gutse minchev kyanqid verj).

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Originally posted by dragon:
Yete oushatir hedevis Sevagi krarman jamanagi hartseroun ou ir kirkeroun untmechen tavanadz arjekneroun, bidi ngades, vor anor POLOR kordzeru nbadagatrvadz yeghadz en yev voch te abroumi mu gam houzoumi mu sosgagan artiunkn en. Sevag vorkan al inknapoukh ou anmichagan, nouynkan al mdadzogh-kidnagan panasdeghdz e.


Asor het hamamit chem. Sevaki voch polor gortsern en "nbadagatrvadz" (yete as @selov nkati unis @mbostatsum ishxanutyunnerun dem). Sevak@ "inknapoukh ou anmichagan ... mdadzogh-kidnagan panasdeghdz" @llalen batsi nayev mets PILISOPA er. (Yete mdadzogh-kidnagan @selov pilisopa i nkati uneis kneres). Kkartsem vor grakanagetner@ shat aveli qaghaqakan ughvatsutyun ktesnen Sevaki poeziayin mej qan irakanum ka. "Du Mi Hartsru" banasteghtsutyun@ shaterun koghme kditvi vorpes "@ndvzum Sovetakan kargerun dem" ... bayts yes nman pan chem nkatats (gutse chem papagats nkatil?) Sevaki poezayi mej amenen araj MARD-n e ... "Sevakyan mard@" ... MARD@ API MEJ ...

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Nouynu bedk e usel nayev ir ''Yerk Yerkots''in masin, vor miayn Hreyouhi Sulamita-i mu siraharvadz ullaloun badmoutiunu che (teyev mageresu ayt e), ayl ampoghch dzrakir mu` azad siro kaghaparin untmechen untertsoghu hghelou tebi Sourp Krayin ''Yerk Yerkots''u, ayt al aynbisi jamanagi mu mech, our voch te martu, ayl mekenan er vor bedaganoren (communism) garjevorver. .


Kkartsem vor azat siro kaghapar@ aveli parzoren kshoshapvi "Ushatsats Im Ser" poemin mej (vori hamar shat qnnadatuyan yentarkvats e Sevak@ hay yev otar "grakanagetneru" koghme). Isk "Yerg Yergots@" voch ayl er qan marmnavorum@ yev anmahatsum@ Sevaki amenamets siro` Sulamita Fridbergi.

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Sevag Azad Siro yerkichn er


Sevak@ LIARZHEQ SIRO yerkichn er ...
Sevak@ tarberum er SIROGHIN ser-xaghatsoghits.

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Sevagi hamar SERn ou MARTu arantskayin garevoroutiun ouneyin. Yev ink irabes gurtsav louysin perel polor yeresneru anonts` badmagan te Sp Krayin dibarneru gyanki gochelov, inchbes Mesrob Mashdots, Gomidas Vartabed, Sayat Nova...te kezi dzanot kaghtsranoun Sulamitan.



Sevaki hamar nax yev araj karevor er AZNIV yev JSHMARIT MARD@ - mard@ ir terutyunnerov ... bayts ansahman mets sirov, LIARZHEQ yev AZNIV sirov ... mard@ ir ANANDZNAKAN sirov (Sevaki poeziayi mej egoism goyutyun chuni - shat em portsel pntrel) Yev verji verjo Sevakyan mi mets pilisopayutyun ka ... LIARZHEQ APREL ... ch@linel teri ... ch@xnayel... aprel, yergel, txrel, sirel, nuynisk ATEL i SRTE !!! Chapsosal charatsi yev chasatsi hamar ...

Dzhvar e Sevaki poeziayi masin grel "mi qani togh" yev amboghjoren artahaytel ayn inch zgum es kam mtatsum (aveli shat zgum). Yes shat yerkar tariner chei el portsum gri arnel mtqers Sevaki poezayi veraberyal qani vor zgatsumnqner@ vor *****rum einq hogis shat aveli mets ein qan grelu shnorqs yev mtqers artahaytelu karoghutyuns. Vaxenum ei "viravorel" kam "anardaratsi" linel NRA handep. Hamalsaranum nor indz tuyl tvetsi portsel grel Sevaki masin - "Hay Poeziayi Nor Shrjan@ Yev Paruyr Sevaki Der@ Nra Dzevavorman Mej." Arzhananalov dasaxosis bartsr gnahatakanin qajutyun dzerq beretsi grel mi poqrik "usumnasirutyun" - "Paruyr Sevaki Poezian" (vor@ arden nshel em).

Sevakin kardaluts batsi ... nayev kareli e aprel "Sevakyan" ... mtatsel "Sevakyan" (voch Sevaki pes iharke) ... arajnordvel "Sevakyan pilisopayutyamb" ...
Shat angamner em portsel haskanal te vorqanov yes klinei tarber yete ch@liner Sevaki poezian ... yerevi bavakanin.


PS. Nor nkatetsi vor inch vor mi masum arevmtahayerenits antsel em arevelahayereni Kartsum em khaskanas gratsners ...

[ March 13, 2001: Message edited by: Sulamita ]
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Sulamik jan,
Tsadz ari Sevagi shalagitsu...arants kez el na garogh a eli abrel tar ou tarer...



He he he he he ... Yete aysqan tsitsagheli ch@liner yerevi latselu liner Hamenayn deps shat grehik er (namanavand KNOJ koghmits) ...

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Originally posted by dragon:
Payts Sevagu nayev degh degh SHADAKHOS keghakidagan aroumov. Hadgabes nra boemnerits gareli a (bedk a) zeghchel hadvadzner, vor purgvi ampoghchoutiunu...Ta inkn el kiter, himi el tou imatsir!

Dragon


Yes miayn mi yezrakatsutyan karogh em gal ... qez hamar yerevi djvar e kentronanal (hatkapes yete nyut@ bard e) ... yev nman depqerum heghinak@ "@ntertsoghi" koghmits ditvum e vorpes SHATAXOS. Iharke tsavum em qez hamar. Bayts Sevaki poeziayits vochinch chi pakasi dranov ... "Da inqn el giter, himi el yes imanam" Bavakanin hamardzak xosqer en ... miamtoren hamardzak Du yerevi aveli mets es qan yes kartsum ei ...
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Ints touyzn chapov el chi hedakurkri ko gardziku Sulamit jan, payts yerevi im gardziku kez shad e hedakurkroum, vor moug taradz gakhvadz es Dragoni bochitsu...

 

Ba ourish inch ban garogh e anel mi mart, vor sunvoum a ourishneri gardzikits...

 

Yes ounem im desoutiunu Sevagi boyeziayi masin, payts sa deghu chi et masin khosalou. Tra orn el gu ka yev kez anbayman imats gu dam, arkhayin mna, Sulamit jan, hents tranov el gimanas te vorkan kheghj en ko midkeru` yev Sevagi yev im masin...

 

Vochinch, sa el gantsni...

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Thank you for the engliish translation. This is my own stupid fault. I need to learn armenian. The peom sounmded like the perfect descrition of a poor old fool in love! It makes me feel sorry for him /or her Old or young we've all been there...

 

 

I notice it was in the sixties. Mabe he could have accompanied it with "yeah yeah yeah" "i wanna hold your hand"

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Ints touyzn chapov el chi hedakurkri ko gardziku Sulamit jan, payts yerevi im gardziku kez shad e hedakurkroum, vor moug taradz gakhvadz es Dragoni bochitsu...



Ha ha ha ha ... Iskapes hivandagin yerevakayutyun unes. Estegh en asel "Xozi glux@ dretsin xalu vra glorvets @nkav tsex@." Yete urishneri kartsiqner@ qez chen hetaqrqrum ... xusapir INQD kartsiq haytneluts. Ays "posting"-i npatak@ zut teghekutyun taln er, voch te Sevaki qnnadatum@ Du INQD xosaktsutyun@ tarar ayd ughutyamb. Mi sksir mi ban yete ches karogh "mardavari" avarti hastsnel.

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Originally posted by dragon:
Ba ourish inch ban garogh e anel mi mart, vor sunvoum a ourishneri gardzikits...



Kneres iharke - du yerevi xotov es snvum, ha?

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Yes ounem im desoutiunu Sevagi boyeziayi masin, payts sa deghu chi et masin khosalou. Tra orn el gu ka yev kez anbayman imats gu dam, arkhayin mna, Sulamit jan, hents tranov el gimanas te vorkan kheghj en ko midkeru` yev Sevagi yev im masin...

Vochinch, sa el gantsni...



Yes qo tesutyun@ arden kardatsi Sevaki poeziayi veraberyal (i.e. "Paruyr Sevaki 70 amyakin nvirvats") Avel lselu kariq ch@ka, havata ... (voch el tsankutyun). Im mtqer@ Sevaki masin du ches karogh @mbrnel (vochinch)... isk qo masin mite karevor e? Che vor sa el kantsni? He he he ...

PS. Be careful not to brake your keaboard. It has no fault
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Tou yerevi shad es porpokvel hents imanalov, vor Sevagu ourish gineri hed a yeghel, sirapanvel keznits patsi nayev ourish ganants hed.


Haydnvoum a, vor na iravounk ouner...

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Dragon


Man/Woman you are really losing it Come out of your fantasy world and be real. Iskapes vor "hivandagin yerevakayutyun unes."
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