Yervant1 Posted March 2, 2013 Report Share Posted March 2, 2013 (edited) Old Allies are at it again and the appearance of Armenian Genocide on the stage when needed as a tool to punish. Erdoghan you better listen or else they will recognise AG, maybe NOT! From the mixed-up files of Obama's trusted friend Power Line Posted on March 1, 2013by Scott Johnson In his most recent verbal assault against Israel, Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan has characterized Zionism as a crime against humanity along with anti-Semitism, fascism, and, of course, Islamophobia. Isn't leaving homophobia off such a list itself a crime against humanity? Prime Minister Netanyahu has issued this concise response: `This is a dark and mendacious statement the likes of which we thought had passed from the world.' Netanyahu is constrained by the conventions of diplomacy. Almost as concise but more to my taste is the less constrained response of the head of the Conference of European Rabbis, Pinchas Goldschmidt, in an email to Reuters: `The irony of these comments will not be lost on the families of those slaughtered during the Armenian genocide, a crime still not recognized by the Turkish government.' Andrew McCarthy's new book devotes substantial attention to the deep thoughts of Erdogan. Andy puts Erdogan's noxious emission in context here, though not the kind of context that excuses the offense. Let's give Andy the last word for the moment at somewhat greater length: "I think `crime against humanity' has become a verbal tic for Turkey's Islamic-supremacist Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan. In Vienna, at one of the UN's nauseating =80=9Cdialogues' between Islam and the West (you know, those conferences where Western leaders explain how much they admire Islam and Islamic leaders reciprocate by explaining how much they, too, admire Islam), Erdogan pronounced Zionism a `crime against humanity,' which he placed on a par with anti-Semitism. The latter is a subject Erdogan knows a thing or two about. As I recount in Spring Fever: The Illusion of Islamic Democracy (just released in paperback this week), Erdogan first burst on the scene almost 40 years ago as the 20-year-old writer-director-star of a theatrical production called Maskomya. As Andy Bostom edifies us, Mas-Kom-Ya is short for Masons, Communists, and, yes, Yahudi - Jews. In Erdogan's telling, these were evil subversive groups whose common denominator was - all together now! - Judaism. Spring Fever documents Erdogan's application of `crime against humanity' label to calls for Muslims in Europe and America to assimilate in the Western societies where they've chosen to live. He also said it was a `crime against humanity' for Israel to defend itself in 2008's `Operation Cast Lead' after over 3000 rockets and mortar shells were fired into Israeli territory by Hamas - the international terrorist organization that Erdogan's Turkey lavishly funds and whose leaders he receives as dignitaries. In this week's Vienna speech, Erdogan reached unprecedented epistemological buffoonery when he explained that not only Zionism but Islamophobia is a `crime against humanity.' Either he does not know what a crime is or he does not know what a phobia is, but since a rational mental state is required for the former the latter doesn't qualify. Or maybe Erdogan knows exactly what crimes and phobias are, but as an Islamo-fascist he figures such niceties should never get in the way of a good smear. Oh, almost forgot, Erdogan also said fascism was a `crime against humanity.' Between his invocation of anti-Semitism and fascism, we see that Erdogan at least knows how to project. In 1975, a year after Maskomya had its run, Erdogan's fellow Islamic-supremacists engineered the passage of U.N. General Assembly Resolution 3379, declaring that Zionism was a form of racism. The condemnation by the United States of this blatant act of anti-Semitism was unequivocal. The late Daniel Patrick Moynihan, then the U.S. Ambassador to the U.N., asserted, `The United States ... does not acknowledge, it will never abide by, it will never acquiesce in this infamous act.' Even the fraudulent enterprise that is the U.N. eventually felt compelled to buckle under forceful American leadership (much of it provided in the Bush 41 State Department by a young assistant secretary named John Bolton). The noxious `Zionism equals racism' resolution was finally repealed in 1991. Now, Erdogan has seen racism and raised it to a crime against humanity, but we've thus far heard no Moynihan-like condemnation from the Obama administration. Notwithstanding that the prime minister's claim to fame is imprisoning uncooperative journalists and political opponents on trumped up charges, President Obama has described Erdogan as one of his most `trusted friends' among world leaders. Although Erdogan is a top provider of material support to Hamas, a serious felony in the United States, Obama recently said of him: `The bottom line is that we find ourselves in frequent agreement upon a wide range of issues.' And, indeed, it is Erdogan who has been prodding Obama to repeat the administration's Libya debacle by overtly supporting the Syrian `rebels' - the jihadist-rife, Muslim Brotherhood-dominated opposition seeking to topple the Iran-backed regime of Bashar al-Assad. It appears Obama and his second-term foreign policy team are poised to give Erdogan his way. Sigh. Maybe for just a few minutes, Obama could pretend that Erdogan was a Republican and that anti-Zionism was the sequester..." Via Jennifer Rubin/Right Turn Edited March 2, 2013 by Yervant1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted March 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2013 Erdogan's hypocrisy Erdogan? `Zionism, anti-Semitism and fascism are crimes againsthumanity.' Oom Shmum? `We're keeping shtum' The Jerusalem Post02/28/2013 By DEBORAH DANAN If it didn't pose the threat of malediction, I'd say that thefollowing absurdity uttered by Turkey's Prime Minister Recep TayyipErdogan might just be the most hilarious thing I've read this year:`Just like Zionism, anti-Semitism and fascism, it becomes unavoidablethat Islamophobia must be regarded as a crime against humanity.' So said the Turkish premier in a UN conference in Vienna on Wednesday. Tellingly, but hardly surprising, UN Secretary-General Ban Ki Moon-whoshared the stage with Erdogan-chose to keep shtum. Once again, the UNhas proved itself to be the world's premier forum for champions ofhate and hypocrisy. As UN Watch rightly pointed out in the wake ofErdogan's latest pronouncement, Ban should be reminded that hispredecessor, Kofi Annan, repealed the UN's 1975 Zionism-is-racismresolution because it was an expression of anti-Semitism. And let'snot forget the Israel hate-fest at the UN-sponsored World Conferenceagainst Racism in Durban, South Africa, a decade ago. But never mind the UN, let's return for a moment to Erdogan, hypocriteextraordinaire. Someone should probably let our old pal Erdogan know that lumpingZionism together with anti-Semitism is in and of itselfanti-Semitic. And while he's abroad preaching against hatred, back athome one of his country's largest papers, The Hurriyet, published itsfindings that the Jews-no surprises there-are the number one targetfor hate speech in Turkish media. The report examined all 1000 localand national newspapers published between September and December 2012and found that out of a total of 21 minority groups, the Jews receivea whopping 25 percent of all hate-speech content. Even moreinteresting is the fact that Israel is actually listed as a separatetarget group, so that lays to rest any claims that hatred against theJews is actually about Israel. So Erdogan proves himself as a warrior for combating anti-Semitism(and its evil cousin Zionism) yet he can't even control the media inhis own backyard? It's worth noting that before Erdogan's AKP party came to power,anti-Semitism was very much a fringe issue within Turkish society. Waybefore the Mavi Marmara misadventure, when Erdogan still served asIstanbul's mayor, he made the following harrowing statement: `Today,the image of the Jews is no different than that of the Nazis.' Priorto his coming to power, the group that took the main brunt of Turkey'shate speech was the Armenians, now number 2 on Hurriyet's list ofmedia's most targeted. Ah, the Armenians, the eternal thorn inErdogan's side. The group that have the chutzpah to claim genocide of1.5 million of its people at the hands of the Ottomans during WorldWar I. No recognition of genocide-let alone anything akin to anapology-and a 16 year blockade of Armenia are all the long-sufferingArmenians have gotten in response to their claims against theTurks. Erdogan's rebuke of Israel's war crimes flies in the face ofhis country's Armenian population, not to mention other victims ofTurkish tyranny including Greek Cypriots and Kurds. So who's going to take Erdogan on and expose him for the bullyinghumbug that he is? Certainly not Ban Ki Moon and the other insidiousofficials at the UN. Perhaps US Secretary of State John Kerry mightslip him a hushed scolding on his upcoming visit to Turkey? I, for one, am not holding my breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted March 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2013 Turkish PM Sparks Israeli Fury With UN Comments Criticism of Zionism in Passing Dubbed 'Anti-Semitic' by Israeli Leadership AntiWar.comFebruary 28, 2013 by Jason Ditz The comments weren't even supposed to be directed at Israel. In a speech at the UN Alliance of Civilizations meeting, Turkish PrimeMinister Recep Tayyip Erdogan urged the international community tospeak out against Islamophobia, terming it a `crime against humanity'and likening it to `Zionism, anti-Semitism and fascism.' The mention is Zionism in passing was enough to spark a livid reactionfrom Israeli officials, with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahucondemning it as a `libelous' comment, and other Likud officialsdubbing it `anti-semitic.' Demands for apology were quick to follow, with Israeli officials andEuropean Jewish leaders suggested the comments had something to dowith the Armenian genocide, seemingly brought up only to get a riseout of Turkey. All of this falderal over a single comment reflects the ongoingtension in what was once Israel's strongest regional alliance, whichhas remained in ruins since the 2010 attack on the Mavi Marmara, withIsrael's government still split years later on whether or not toapologize for killing Turkish aid workers on board the aid ship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted March 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2013 Similar to Holocaust!!!!!!!!! am I seeing this right? Israel outraged by Erdogan's statement Vestnik Kavkaza1 March 2013 Prominent Israeli journalists, lawmakers and public figures areoutraged by Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan's recentstatement, according to which Zionism is similar to fascism and Israelis responsible for 'crimes against humanity'. It's still not clearwhether Israel will respond to these remarks or not. The remarks were made by Prime Minister Erdogan at a UN forum onWednesday. Talking about Islamophobia, the Turkish leader said thatZionism is a violent ideology similar to fascism. In Israel many people note that UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon waspresent at the meeting and did nothing to stop Erdogan's speech. The Israeli Foreign Ministry has not responded yet, maybe because ofthe political tensions continuing in the country. No official hasagreed to comment on the incident, however one representative of theministry said that Erdogan could have been mistaken. He could havethought that UN Resolution No. 3379, which was adopted in 1975 underpressure from the Soviet Union and Arab states and condemned Zionism,had not been repealed, the official believes. In fact the resolutionwas repealed in 1991. Nowadays, many Israeli officials believe that it's high time toreconsider the 1915 Armenian genocide and announce it a tragedysimilar to the Holocaust. It's also possible to discuss the violencecommitted by the Turkish authorities against Kurds, the official says. Pyotr Lyukimson reporting fromIsrael. Exclusively to Vestnik Kavkaza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted March 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 Erdogan's Double Standards Al-Monitor Israel PulseMarch 3, 2013 By: Shlomi Eldar `Turkey and Israel are both vital allies of the United States. We wantto see them work together in order to be able to go beyond therhetoric and begin to take concrete steps to change this relationship,'said new U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry at a news conference inAnkara on Friday [March 1]. Kerry also condemned Turkish PrimeMinister Recep Tayyip Erdogan for his verbal attack two days earlier,when he compared Zionism to fascism and called it a `crime againsthumanity.' These two sentences by Kerry express the vast distancebetween hope for rehabilitating the relations with Ankara - andreality. In the past, I had thought that it would be possible for Israel andTurkey to consider their joint interests and restore theirrelationship in the near future. The leaders of the two countries, Ihad reckoned, would be forced to swallow their pride, if only out ofMiddle Eastern logic. After all, friends are friends, all hell brokeloose in the Middle East and this is the time to make up and bury thehatchet. But then along came Erdogan's statement this week in the UnitedNations -- which was uttered, by the way, at a U.N. forum, establishedto `improve understanding and cooperative relations among nations andpeoples across cultures and religions.' This statement certainlyproved how far off the mark I had been.Erdogan is a serial troublemaker. Two-and-a-half years ago hequarreled with Israel over the Marmara episode; a year ago hequarreled with France; and over the past year he quarreled withDamascus, almost to threat of war. If we can rely on commentaries andevaluations of the situation, Erdogan's crass verbal exchanges withhis old friend Syria is meant to help ingratiate him with Cairo,Tehran, Baghdad, Qatar and in effect the entire Arab world, in orderto actualize his megalomaniac aspirations to become the Mukhtar of theMuslim world. I believed that one day, Erdogan would understand that he could fillthe tremendous void left by the leaders of the Arab world that weredeposed or weakened - and diplomatic wisdom would dictate to him tosoften his position vis-a-vis Israel. This `path of wisdom' seemed tangible, attainable, logical and evenself-evident to me. True, no one believes that a new friendshipbetween the two countries could reemerge; a relationship as close andcourageous as in the past. But even a cold friendship could beuseful. These hopes/assessments were strengthened when I'doccasionally hear leaks about secret contacts between Israeli andTurkish representatives regarding an end to the crisis. We evenreceived news recently in the Turkish press that Israel suppliedTurkey with advanced electronic warfare systems for aircraft systems,that significantly upgrade the Turkish Air Force's Airborne Warningand Control System (AWACS). This happened last month. So, I asked myself, if that's not a sign portending well for thefuture, if that doesn't bode well, how else can we explain it? Twocountries that were friends and became enemies are now takingconfident steps toward reconciliation. But then Erdogan rose to the speaker's rostrum at the U.N. Alliance ofCivilizations in Vienna, leaving his listeners in shock and causing meto feel baffled with myself over my naiveté. `The internationalcommunity should consider Islamophobia a crime against humanity likeZionism or anti-Semitism or fascism,' said Erdogan at the stand of thestartled U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon. `Crime against humanity,' he said. That is the moment when the penny dropped. Erdogan's conduct vis-Ã-vis Israel is not a reaction or a result of anything. It has noconnection to diplomatic mishaps or to the failures connected to thetragic takeover of the Mavi Marmara ship. It is not connected to thevarious operations of the IDF in the Gaza Strip; it's not even aboutErdogan's megalomaniac aspirations to lead the Muslim world, for whichhe is willing to sacrifice the long-standing friendship between Turkeyand Israel. It's not about the impasse in negotiations between Israeland [Palestinian Chairman] Abu Mazen and not even connected to theridiculous conduct of former Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon, whosubjected Turkey's ambassador to Israel to the humiliating ceremony ofplacing him on a low seat. It is hatred. Erdogan simply hates Israel. If we listen carefully to his words atthe Vienna convention, we realize that he doesn't even try to hideit. He simply hates the Israelis and everything they represent withsuch deep, built-in, dark hatred that nothing will help. We shouldhave understood this a long time ago, but better late than never. `Obviously, we not only disagree with it. We found itobjectionable. We denounce Erdogan's statement,' Kerry said at thatsame press conference in Ankara during the weekend [March 1], and itwas good that he said what he did. Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu, who also recently expressedopinions similar to those of the prime minister, fixed his gaze onKerry without batting an eyelash. And since Erdogan started all this, since he was the one to hurl the`crime against humanity' hot potato, the time has come for us to turnthe history-book pages and consider an item that all Turkish leadersin the past attempted to hush up, and even forced those surroundingthem to deny. Again, I raise the subject here with the requisitecaution, only because Erdogan himself felt free to run off at themouth. I am referring to something that can only be labeled a `crimeagainst humanity,' meaning genocide, that Turkey was connectedto. Does this sound familiar to anyone? A few months ago, I visited Armenia. I went on a tour of the genocidemuseum in Yerevan, the capital city. A million and a half Armenianswere murdered in what is called the =80=9CArmenian Genocide' that wascarried out during World War I in the Ottoman Empire period, beforethe founding of the modern Turkish state. The museum is located in theheart of the capital city, longingly overlooking the Ararat Mountainthat is holy to the Armenians but located in Turkish territory. Themuseum is full of appalling testimonies and photographs that clearlyanswer to the description of `crime against humanity.' Despite the tremendous efforts invested by Turkey in the last hundredyears to prevent this, dozens of democratic countries in the worldhave acknowledged the Armenian genocide. Dozens of countries - bur notIsrael, which has avoided recognizing the genocide for years, whenrelations with Turkey were close and even after the crisis with Turkeyerupted. It seems that some small spark of hope for repairing therelations between the countries, prevented Israel from officiallyacknowledging the genocide of the Armenian nation. I have no intentions of settling accounts with the Turkish nation, orpouring more oil on the fire of the ongoing conflict. But to throw outinto the air that `Zionism is a crime against humanity' and continueto deny the Armenian genocide =80' that's impossible. So Erdogan, with your permission, one friendly piece of advice: Theone who searches for justice must come with his hands clean. Otherwise,his search might wake up undesirable ghosts from the past - ghoststhat you have tried to keep dormant. Shlomi Eldar is a contributing writer for Al-Monitor's IsraelPulse. For the past two decades, he has covered the PalestinianAuthority and especially the Gaza Strip for Israel's Channels 1 and10, and has reported on the emergence of Hamas. In 2007, he wasawarded the Sokolov Prize, Israel's most important media award, forthis work. He has published two books: Eyeless in Gaza (2005), whichanticipated the Hamas victory in the subsequent Palestinian elections,and Getting to Know Hamas (2012). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted March 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 US LAWMAKERS URGE ERDOGAN TO RETRACT ZIONISM SLURS TERT.AM11:07 ~U 14.03.13 Eighty-nine members of the US Congress signed a letter calling onTurkey's prime minister to retract his comments blasting Zionism,JTA reported. The lawmakers, representing both houses of Congress and both politicalparties, sent the one-page letter to Tayyip Erdogan on Tuesday toexpress "our grave disappointment with the statement you made at theUnited Nations-sponsored conference in Vienna last month equatingZionism - the foundation of the Jewish state and the movement forJewish self-determination -with fascism and anti-Semitism, and labelingit a 'crime against humanity.' " Rep. Steve Israel (D-N.Y.), who signed the letter, in a statementsent to JTA said Erdogan's "outlandish comment is simply unacceptable"and "further threatens unrest in an already perilous region." Another signer, Sen. Mark Kirk (R-Ill.), said, "Rather than pursuingcloser ties with the United States, Europe and Israel, Erdogancontinues to pursue a policy of distance and isolation from the West." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted March 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 TURKEY IN NO POSITION TO SCHOOL ISRAEL ON HUMAN RIGHTS Protestors chant slogans against Israel and Syrian President Basharal-Assad as they carry a mock coffin with the mention "In Hule,50 children massacred by knives" during a rally on May 31, 2012 onTaksim Square in Istanbul, marking the first anniversary of the MaviMarmara incident. (photo by BULENT KILIC/AFP/GettyImages) http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2013/03/turkey-accuses-israel-faces-own-human-rights-violations.htmlBy: Orhan Kemal Cengiz for Al-Monitor Turkey Pulse. Posted on March 19. Who can take Turkey seriously when it accuses Israel of crimesagainst humanity and then lays out a red-carpet state reception forSudanese President Omar al-Bashir, who has an arrest warrant fromthe International Criminal Court? Or let's put it another way: Can the Turkey that couldn't settle theaccounts of its massive human rights violations against the Kurds inthe past and couldn't even apologize for what happened to the Armeniansin 1915, place Israel's crimes against humanity on the world's agenda? Turkey's problematic past not only impedes its efforts to callattention to Israel's inhuman practices against the Palestinians,but also prevents it from holding violators of the rights of Turkishcitizens accountable. For example, look at what transpired after theIsraeli military attack on the Mavi Marmara flotilla in 2010. Nine Turkish nationals lost their lives in the Israeli attack againstthe flotilla. The Israeli operation against the ship, from beginning toend, was an array of violations of international law. For an accountof the terrifying actions of Israeli soldiers in that operation,one need only look at the report of the UN Human Rights Council datedSept. 22, 2010 [A/HRC/15/21]. The UN report clearly says that contraryto Israeli allegations, nobody had fired on the Israeli soldiers. TheIsraeli soldiers had fired on civilians on board from close range,and even after the wounded civilians had fallen to the ground. Theconclusions of the UN report clearly explain the human tragedy onMavi Marmara that day: "The conduct of the Israeli military and other personnel towards theflotilla passengers was not only disproportionate to the occasion butdemonstrated levels of totally unnecessary and incredible violence. Itbetrayed an unacceptable level of brutality." The Human Rights Council also provided a legal assessment of theIsraeli operation: "It constituted grave violations of human rightslaw and international humanitarian law." So what did Turkey do against these "grave human rights violations"that killed nine of the citizens? It launched a born-dead legal caseat Istanbul's High Criminal Court. The Istanbul public prosecutor asksfor nine life sentences for the then-Israeli chief of staff, commandersof its navy and air force and the head of military intelligence fortheir responsibility in the deaths. In Turkish jurisprudence, it isnot possible to try and sentence defendants in absentia. That meansthat unless these former Israeli officials agree to come to Turkeyfor trial by a high criminal court, they can't be penalized. Istanbul's 7th High Criminal Court held four sessions starting inNovember 2012 and heard depositions of hundreds of plaintiffs. Thecourt is likely to hear even more plaintiffs in its next sessions,but since it cannot hear the depositions by defendants, it willat some point decide to suspend the trial. If the defendants evercome to Turkey, they will risk detention to compel appearance beforethe court. The court can also call on Interpol for the arrest of thedefendants, should they show up in any European country, to bring thembefore the Turkish court. However, no such request has been sent toInterpol at the moment. If Turkey had been a country unworried about accounting for its ownhuman rights violations, what choice did it have in the Mavi Marmaracase? For example, if Turkey had been a party to the InternationalCriminal Court, it could have asked for the Israeli soldiers to betried there, as the operation was carried out on board a Turkish ship. The prosecutor in Istanbul said the Mavi Marmara, althoughComoros-flagged, was registered in Turkey. The Israeli attack would beconsidered to have been committed on Turkish soil. Turkey then would beable to claim that this attack, along with the blockade against Gaza,was a war crime. And as there were crimes against humanity committedagainst those on board, the ICC would be qualified to try the case. Why doesn't Turkey become a signatory to the ICC, long demanded by theEU it hopes to join one day? Turkey is afraid of its past human rightsviolations being brought to the court one way or the other. Some ofthese fears pertain to the Kurdish issue and others to the Cyprusquestion. Turkey is afraid of being accused of ongoing violationsarising from the inability of Kurdish villagers to return to thevillages which were set ablaze in 1990s. Turkey also fears its 1974military intervention in Cyprus could be classified as aggression asper the Rome Statute. Although the ICC had declared its intention toinvestigate crimes of aggression only after 2017, Turkey is not sureof settling the Cyprus issue until then, and still fears of beingaccused. Turkey, although a candidate for EU membership, is the onlycountry among all EU members and membership candidates that doesn'tdoes recognize the ICC's jurisdiction. A country that cannot effectively cope with its own human rightsand other issues in its past cannot give lessons in human rights toanother country. Sadly, Turkey is so fearful of its own past thatit cannot leave the corner it has backed itself into, not even toprosecute crimes against humanity committed against its own citizens. Instead, it must be content with filing legal complaints that willnot produce any meaningful outcomes and serve only to appease itsown public. Orhan Kemal Cengiz is a Turkish lawyer, journalist and human rightsactivist. A former president of the Human Rights Agenda Association,a respected Turkish NGO that works on human rights issues, he has beenthe lawyer of the Alliance of Turkish Protestant Churches since 2002. He writes for Today's Zaman and Radikal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted March 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 13:16 21/03/2013 » Analysis Steven Simpson: If there has ever been a country in the Middle East guilty of committing crimes against humanity, it is Turkey Below is an article by Steven Simpson, published in The American Thinker, in which he presents the crimes committed by Turkey. Turkey's Islamist prime minister, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, is once again engaging in his favorite political pastime - Israel-bashing.Late last month at a U.N. convention held ironically to promote religious tolerance, Erdoğan lambasted Israel by calling Zionism "a crime against humanity." Indeed, Erdoğan even outdid the biggest anti-Israel institution in the world - the United Nations - which in 1975 passed its infamous "Zionism is Racism" resolution.But Erdoğan's continuous contempt for Israel shows the arrogance and hypocrisy of Turkey. For if there has ever been a country in the Middle East guilty of committing crimes against humanity, it is Turkey. Indeed, next to Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia, 20th-century Turkey ranks right up there when it comes to massacres, rapes, expulsions, and rapine perpetrated against ethnic and religious minorities - namely Armenians, Greeks, and Kurds.Before documenting Turkey's crimes against other people, it should first be noted that today's Turkey has for all intents and purposes become an Islamic republic in everything but name only. The so-called "Turkish-Israeli" alliance has been in tatters since Erdoğan came to power in 2003. Aside from veering Turkey on an Islamist course - and cause - the Turks (even with Obama's "apology tour" that began in Turkey back in 2009) remain extremely anti-American. This writer back in 2010 documented Erdoğan's democratic ascent to power, his ideology and goals, and what an Islamist Turkey means to America, Israel, and the West in general.Regrettably, Israel allowed herself to once again be verbally slapped down by the vitriolic and sanctimonious Erdoğan. With Erdoğan's latest diatribe, all Israel could weakly say was "that it was a sinister and mendacious comment." America, fearful of losing its only Muslim NATO "ally," also was quite quiet when it came to Erdoğan's latest bombastic tirade.Ironically, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry was on his way to Turkey to meet with officials when Erdoğan had his latest verbal apoplectic attack against Israel. Though the mainstream media made it out that the U.S. was furious with Erdoğan, Kerry simply called the comments "objectionable." Indeed, Erdoğan upbraided Kerry when Kerry had apologized for being late to a dinner with the Turkish prime minister after holding talks with Turkey's foreign minister, Ahmet Davutoglu. Mr. Kerry had commented to the prime minister that he had held lengthy discussions with Mr. Davutoglu. An irritated Erdoğan then acerbically stated to Kerry that they "must have spoken about everything so there is nothing left for us to talk about." Kerry meekly responded "that there's a lot to talk about." However, it remains unknown what the two actually discussed, and if Kerry raised any objections to Erdoğan's statements on Israel, no one has yet reported on the event.This now leaves us with Erdoğan's hypocrisy in lecturing Israel about supposed "war crimes" and leads us to actual war crimes perpetrated by Turkey during the 20th century - crimes that still go on today against the Kurds. It is a record that not only has caused of blood to be spilled, but still has repercussions felt to this day.Probably the most well-known war crime that Turkey engaged in was the slaughter - if not genocide - perpetrated against the Armenians in the first two decades of the 20th century. In fact, the Turks were already slaughtering Armenians in the late 19th century in what has come to be known as "the Hamidian massacres." Estimates of the slaughter range from hundreds of thousands to millions. In any event, Turkey has consistently and constantly denied that such crimes against the Armenians took place. Turkey is so sensitive to the charge of genocide that when the U.S. Congress in 2010 finally passed a resolution condemning this crime, Turkey threatened "serious consequences" to the "partnership" between America and Turkey. Ironically, Barack Obama, who had the audacity to say back in 2007 that "nobody is suffering more than the Palestinian people," sought to stop the congressional resolution on the Armenian genocide.Continuing with Turkish war crimes, and the hypocrisy of the neo-Ottoman crypto-Sultan Erdoğan, there were the massacres and expulsions of the Greeks from their ancestral homelands. This is another Turkish crime against humanity that is little-known, and even less spoken or written about. "The Pontian Genocide" took place between the years of 1916 and 1922. Again, estimates vary in the casualty rate, but the slaughter could have been as close to 1,000,000 Greeks killed. This doesn't even take into account the surviving 1.5 million Greeks who lived in Asia Minor (Anatolia) for millennia before being expelled by the Turks to European Greece during this era.Finally, there are the Kurds. If there was ever an authentic Middle Eastern minority of Muslims that deserves a nation-state, it is the Kurds. While Islamist governments in Iran and Turkey (as well as the Arab world) talk about "Islamic solidarity" when it comes to the so-called "Palestinians," there is not even a syllable of talk regarding the plight of the Kurds. The Kurds have been killed and suppressed by Arab, Persian, and Turk for centuries, all of whom see the legitimate aim of the Kurds to establish their own state as a threat to the status quo of continuous Arab, Persian, and Turkish imperialism.While the Kurds are spread out over Syria, Iraq, Iran, and Turkey, it has been in the last country that the Kurds have basically been written out of history by the Turks. The Turkish quest to deny any semblance of a Kurdish existence has been so bizarre that Turkey even banned the Kurdish language during the years 1983-1999 and routinely referred to them as "mountain Turks." To this day, Turkey routinely crosses the Syrian and Iraqi borders to fight against "Kurdish terrorists."This background on Turkish war crimes is just a brief sketch of the brutal actions that Turkey has committed over the decades (if not centuries). The next time the arrogant, bellicose, and venomous Erdoğan along with his fellow Islamists lectures Israel about "crimes against humanity," they should look in the mirror and admit to true war crimes.Indeed, Israel - and America, for that matter - would do history a great justice if they reminded Turkey in the strongest language possible, of the Turks' bloody crimes against their own minorities, instead of sitting back and allowing Turkey to pontificate about Israel's nonexistent "crimes against humanity." Continued silence will only strengthen bullies and thugs like Erdoğan, lend credence to his outlandish slander, and allow Turkey to continue to rewrite history in its own image.Source: Panorama.am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted March 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 It seems Lover's quarrel have ended for now! 09:02 23/03/2013 » Society Israel apologizes for deadly flotilla raid Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu apologized Friday to Turkey for a 2009 raid on a Gaza-bound flotilla, both nations said, signaling a potential major thaw after three years of chilly relations between the two key Middle East nations, CNN reported.The Israeli leader phoned his Turkish counterpart, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, while sitting with U.S. President Barack Obama in a trailer on a Tel Aviv airport tarmac. In the call -- which Turkey's foreign minister said lasted for nearly 30 minutes -- Netanyahu acknowledged "operational mistakes" during the raid, which ended with eight Turks and an American of Turkish origin dead."(Netanyahu) made it clear that the tragic results regarding the Mavi Marmara were unintentional and that Israel expresses regret over injuries and loss of life," the Israeli government said.Erdogan accepted the apology, which came shortly after he talked with the leaders of Egypt and Qatar. Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said later on state TV, according to the semiofficial Anadolu news agency, that all Turkey's demands had been met. Source: Panorama.am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted March 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Israeli Former Foreign Minister considered apologies to Turkey to berude mistake 12:57, 23 March, 2013 YEREVAN, MARCH 23, ARMENPRESS: Former Foreign Minister of IsraelAvigdor Lieberman gave negative response to Israeli initiation onapologies to Turkey. As reports Armenpress, referring to `Hyurriet'daily, Avigdor Lieberman considered apologies to Turkey to be a rudemistake. According to Former Foreign Minister of Israel what happened will havea negative impact on the Israeli soldiers' motivation and nationaldignity. On March 22, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel apologized ina personal phone call to Turkey's prime minister for a deadly commandoraid on a Turkish ship in 2010, in a sudden reconciliation between thetwo countries that was partly brokered by President Obama during hisvisit to Israel this week, according to Israeli, Turkish and Americanofficials. Mr. Netanyahu expressed regret for the raid, which took place asIsraeli troops were enforcing an aid embargo on Gaza, and offeredcompensation, Turkish and Israeli officials said. And after years ofholding out for a public apology for the deaths, the Turkish PrimeMinister, Recep Tayyip ErdoÄ?an, accepted Israel's gesture in the phonecall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted March 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Erdogan: Israeli apology signals Turkey's growing regional influence March 23, 2013 - 20:54 AMT PanARMENIAN.Net - Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said on Saturday,March 23 an Israeli apology for the 2010 deaths of nine Turkishpro-Palestinian activists that was brokered by President Barack Obamamet Turkey's conditions and signaled its growing regional influence,Reuters reported."We are entering a new period in both Turkey and the region," saidErdogan, who plans to visit the Palestinian territories, including theGaza Strip, next month."We are at the beginning of a process of elevating Turkey to aposition so that it will again have a say, initiative and power, as itdid in the past."Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, in a phone call on Friday,agreed to meet Turkey's three conditions for normalizing relations,Erdogan said.These were a clear apology, compensation to the victims' families anda relaxation of the blockade against Gaza, Erdogan told a rallybroadcast live from the western town of Eskisehir.Israel bowed to a demand by Ankara to apologize formally for thedeaths nearly three years ago aboard the Mavi Marmara, a Turkishvessel carrying humanitarian aid and challenging Israel's navalblockade of the Palestinian-run Gaza Strip.The men died after Israeli marines stormed the ship. The incidentwrecked diplomatic ties between Turkey and Israel, once strategicpartners.Muslim Turkey expelled Israel's ambassador and froze militarycooperation after a U.N. report into the incident released inSeptember 2011 largely exonerated the Jewish state."I expressed that normalizing (relations), which will facilitateregional peace, would depend on these steps," Erdogan told reporterson the train to Eskisehir, according to CNN Turk.Reviving the relationship is seen as a key source of stability as thetwo countries and their Western allies confront civil war in Syria andthe prospects of a nuclear-armed Iran.Erdogan also told the crowd that Obama, who was in Israel on Fridayfor talks with Netanyahu, had called him before passing the telephoneto the Israeli premier to apologize.The Turkish leader said Netanyahu had told him restrictions onconsumer goods reaching Gaza and the West Bank would also be liftedand pledged to seek Turkish help in improving humanitarian conditionsin the Palestinian territories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted March 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Apology? Extortion The Jewish Journal of Greater Los AngelesMarch 24, 2013 Posted by Ariel Blumenthal On Thursday, as President Obama was getting ready to deliver hisvision of peace to Israeli students, the alternative to that visionwas typically expressed by a rocket attack from Gaza. On Thursdaymorning the contrast between the two visions was clearly illustrated;Just a day later the violent alternative received a tremendous boost. Hamas applauded Turkish PM Erdogan on finally getting his apology,declaring it `A victory' - and so they should: The effort to rescuethe Hamas regime in Gaza, taken by the Turkish Islamist organizationIHH three years ago, ended Friday with their calamitous moralvictory. Since IHH radicals on board of the Mavi Marmara are still toooften related to as `carrying humanitarian aid' and as `peaceactivists', I'm inclined to remind my readers who they were, via this3:35 video I made with my friend Guy Ross( ). No, these were no peace activists attacked by ruthless commandos whileselflessly seeking justice; These were fanatic Islamists confrontedwith paint guns while seeking martyrdom and itching for a holyfight. These `peace activists', die-hard supporters of Hamas and thealternative it offers to the region, were never looking for peace. Andon Thursday morning, back in their homes in Turkey, they were veryhappy to see some rockets flying into Israel. These are the peoplegranted an apology. Beyond the context of intent and ideology, there's also the issue ofaffiliation. Three years ago the Muslim Brotherhood was unknown to theWestern public; Today it's a household name, making the significanceof IHH's ties to the global Brotherhood clear. A report by theJerusalem Center for Public Affairs showed that `The IHH ... was anintegral part of a Turkish Muslim Brotherhood network' and that `Since2006, Turkey has become a new center for the Global MuslimBrotherhood, while the Hamas regime in the Gaza Strip acted as themain axis for this activity.' You can't expect the IHH to care forShiites, or even non-Brotherhood Sunnis (like the PalestinianAuthority). The flotilla was an act of alliance between MuslimBrotherhood affiliates; The thin veneer of `humanitarian aid' thatmiraculously still holds, was intended for those who are foolishenough to still believe in it. Erdogan did not hesitate to throw his weight behind the IHH and keepit there for three years. The PM and his Justice and Developmentparty, (which last year received Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal with astanding ovation and `damn Israel!' chants), are Brotherhoodsympathizers, if not affiliates themselves. The moral ramificationsare to be expected. Erdogan doesn't think Hamas is a terrorist organization, but callsIsrael a `terrorist nation'. He takes no notice of Hamas' violence andaccuses Israel of genocide in Gaza, while ironically facing a verysimilar situation with the Kurdish PKK, a challenge he responds towith lethal ferociousness. Describing Erdogan as a non-objectivemediator is an understatement. In 1998 he said that `the image of theJews is no different than that of the Nazis'; In 2011 he rallied anArab League meeting: `Israel must pay the price for its aggression andcrimes.' He told his Parliament that Israel is engaged in ethniccleansing; He said that `Israel is inexplicably cruel' and `hidingbehind the Nazi Holocaust'. Some classic Antisemitic themes? Here yougo: `The world media is under the control of Israel' and `WhereverJews settle, they make money.' Bizarro roots? By all means: Back in1974 Mr. Erdogan wrote, directed and starred in the play `Maskomya'about a Free-Mason - Communist - Jewish (Mas-Kom-Ya) evil conspiracy. And finally, just three weeks ago he told a press conference in Viennathat Zionism is a crime against humanity. This coming from the PM ofTurkey, whose nationalism cost an enormous number of Armenian, Greekand Kurdish lives - is infuriating. This is the man granted anapology...? The game of apologies in the Middle East is a one-wayaffair: the provocateur demands it, the provocateur is granted it. Commentator Robin Wright was correct to say on Friday's =80=9CLeftRight & Center' that the apology `was the most important thing to comeout of Obama's visit'. The diplomatic necessity for Turkish-Israelicooperation in light of the chaos in Syria is clear; Access to NATOfacilities in Turkey and the dismissal of abusive legal chargesagainst Israeli officers are just two of many immediate benefits. It'sa prospect you can't refuse. This is an artificial apology, a product of extortion. Israelis don'tbelieve in it, their PM had to eat a dish-full of frogs in order tomake the call. The Turkish PM will escalate again very soon - he won'tbe able to help it. It's the ideology, stupid. Did I hearreconciliation? Erdogan was remarkably quick to cool it down onSaturday using confrontational language the world has grown so deaf toidentify. The moral consequences are devastating. If I were an Islamist anywherein the world - I'd be launching a new flotilla tomorrow. For the restof the world, the understanding of good and bad intentions, violentand peaceful ideologies and the very principle of justice, is moreblurry today. As I wrote here yesterday, reality and perception aregrowing further and further removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted March 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Erdogan Ups the Ante The Jewish PressMarch 27th, 2013 Netanyahu's apology to Turkey hasn't been enough to satisfy theappetite of Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Netanyahu'soffer of putting nearly a million dollars into a fund for the nineTurkish activists killed when they attacked IDF soldiers boarding theMavi Marmara who were illegally trying to break the blockade on Gaza,hasn't been sufficient for Erdogan either. Erdogan told the Turkish parliament that he expects a million dollarsfor each activist killed, and a lifting of the naval blockade againstGaza. Not lifting the blockade would be a deal breaker, he claimed. It is unlikely that Netanyahu would lift the blockade on the GazaStrip, which is currently controlled by Hamas terrorists. Minister Naftali Bennett posted on his Facebook page that Erdogan hasdone everything in his power to make Israel regret the apology, as he[Erdogan] runs a personal campaign against Turkish-Israel relations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Yervant1 Posted April 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 ISRAEL: THE POLITICS BEHIND THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE Al-MonitorApril 22 2013 By: Akiva Eldar for Al-Monitor Israel Pulse Posted on April 22. On Wednesday [April 24] the world will mark the 98th anniversary ofthe genocide carried out against the Armenians by the Ottoman Empire. As it does every year, this year, too, Israel will be silent. TheJewish state, which just two weeks ago [April 8] honored the 6 millionJews who perished in the Holocaust, will abstain from marking thegenocide in which 1 million to 1.5 million Armenians perished. President Shimon Peres, who spoke at the central memorial ceremonyat Yad Vashem and pointed a finger at "those who forget and deny theHolocaust," will continue, as he does every year, to ignore the cruelgenocide carried out a quarter of a century before World War II. When Adolf Hitler was asked how the world would respond to his "FinalSolution" plan - the extermination of the Jewish people in Europe -he replied, without compunction: "Who, after all, speaks today ofthe annihilation of the Armenians?" Germany speaks today of the annihilation of the Jews, assumesresponsibility for the Holocaust, memorializes the victims andcompensates the survivors. Turkey not only refuses to recognize theArmenian genocide - its government conducts all-out wars againststates that mention the event and punishes governments that grantit official recognition. Only a year and a half ago, Turkey recalledits ambassador from Paris to protest the French parliament's approvalof legislation that criminalizes the denial of the Armenian genocide(several weeks later, the law was repealed). The 1948 UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Genocidedefines genocide as "acts committed with intent to destroy, in wholeor in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, as such." The man who coined the term genocide and fought for adoption of thetreaty was the Jewish-Polish jurist Raphael Lemkin, whose entirefamily was annihilated in the Holocaust. He himself managed to fleeto the United States. Lemkin referred specifically to the Armenianannihilation as an act of genocide. This position was never adoptedby Israeli governments. The official Israeli position was summed upin 2001 in an interview by then-Foreign Minister Shimon Peres withthe Turkish Daily News: "The Armenians suffered a tragedy," he said,"but not genocide." In advance of the Armenian memorial day someone should point out tothe president a compilation of testimony provided by members of Nili(a Jewish spy ring that operated in Palestine during World War I inan effort to help the British army wrest it from the Turks) aboutwhat befell the Armenians. He might just change his mind. This is the testimony of Eitan Belkind, a Nili man who infiltratedthe Turkish military: "I was amazed to see the river colored red with the blood and bodies ofdecapitated children floating on the water. The sight was horrendous -and we are powerless to help." Belkind later described how Circassiansoldiers ordered the Armenians to gather thorns and thistles and formthem into a large pyramid, tied some 5,000 people to each other handto hand in a ring around the thorn pile and set it on fire. "The firerose to the sky along with the screams of the wretched people charredto death in the bonfire," he wrote. "I fled from the place because Icould not watch that horrible scene. I urged my horse to gallop withall his might and after a wild two-hour ride I could still hear theirmiserable cries until their voices died out. Two days later I went backto the place and saw the charred bodies of thousands of human beings." In a memorandum submitted to the British Ministry of Defense in 1916,Nili leader Aaron Aaronsohn wrote: "The massacre of the Armenians isa well-planned Turkish action and the Germans were partners in thisshameful act." These harsh words were echoed at a seminar held on April 11 ofthis year on the subject of "The Nakba in Israel's National Memory"(by The Walter Lebach Institute for Jewish-Arab Coexistence throughEducation and the Tami Steinmetz Center for Peace Research at TelAviv University). During the discussion, Professor Yair Auron of theOpen University, who for years has been leading a determined strugglefor recognition of the Armenian genocide, was sharply critical ofthe indifference of Israel's political and academic elite to thetragedies of other nations. Later, in an interview with Al-Monitor,Auron contended that through their indifference, "they are defilingthe memory of the Holocaust." And, in fact, other than a handful of right- and left-wing politicians,none of the leaders of mainstream Israeli politics showed up. Forthem, any attempt to hint that other peoples were also persecutedand massacred for racist reasons is considered "disrespect forthe Holocaust" (they themselves, on the other hand, often usethe term "Holocaust," especially to scare the Israeli public withthe Iranian threat). They do not define the Armenian genocide as ahuman-Jewish-ethical issue. Israeli universities make do with teachingthe Jewish Holocaust and evince no interest in the disasters of otherpeoples. Nonetheless, at Auron's instigation, the Open University hasfor several years been teaching a course on the Armenian genocide,which is much in demand by students. The recognition of the Armenian genocide by Israeli decision-makersis a question of politics, of the relationship between Israel,Turkey and the United States. Who cares about relations with littleArmenia (3 million citizens)? In fact, Israel even earned severalmillion dollars recently, benefiting from the Turkish government'sdecision to cancel a weapons deal with France in retaliation for theabove-mentioned legislation against denial of the Armenian genocide. In 2007, the Knesset decided to remove from its daily agenda a proposalby Knesset Member Haim Oron of the Meretz Party to debate the Armeniangenocide in the Education and Culture Committee. The decision resultedfrom orders by then Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Foreign MinisterTzipi Livni, who feared that further discussion of the issue wouldlead to a diplomatic crisis between Israel and Turkey. In a debate that took place in the Knesset five years later (June 12,2012), over the objections of the diplomatic echelon, the government'srepresentative, then Minister of Environmental Protection Gilad Erdan,confessed that "this whole debate is taking place against the backdropof relations between Israel and Turkey." Nothing has changed. At the low point of relations with Turkey, following the failed May2010 Israeli takeover of the flotilla to Gaza which gave birth to the"Marmara Crisis," some right-wing politicians suggested "punishing"the Turks by recognizing the Armenian genocide. And what would we havedone now? Would Prime Minister Netanyahu have repealed the recognitionof the Armenian genocide to complement his apology to Turkey over theMarmara? Hearing of that idea, Auron reacts with anger: "As a humanbeing and as a Jew, I am deeply ashamed that an issue of such basicprinciple and ethics has been turned into a pawn." The office of President Peres did not respond to a query by Al-Monitor,asking whether he had changed his mind regarding the genocide of theArmenian people. Akiva Eldar is a contributing writer for Al-Monitor's Israel Pulse. Hewas formerly a senior columnist and editorial writer for Haaretz andalso served as the Hebrew daily's US bureau chief and diplomaticcorrespondent. His most recent book (with Idith Zertal), Lords ofthe Land, on the Jewish settlements, was on the best-seller list inIsrael and has been translated into English, German and Arabic. http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2013/04/the-politics-behind-the-armenian-genocide.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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