Aryan Aryun

[Arpa]

Let's blow another myth.

Aryan Aryun, Aryan Blood.

What does it really mean?

In another thread Hyebruin wrote; (See Armenian Origin under the topic oh History).

 

"This is for anyone who has studied ancient armenian history... Is it true that we are of Aryan origin? and that the original Armenians were blond haired and blue eyed? I remember reading somewhere that there was an ancestral race that gave birth to the armenian race...forgot the name?"

 

Most serious sources give the subject very little space except to say that it is an almost obsolete term to describe what is at the present known as IndoEuropean. It is suspected that serious sources are reluctant to expand on the subject because a few decades ago some idiots used the term to promote their racist agendas.

There are many internet sites still promoting similar racial hatred. The irony is that those who use the term Aryan Race etc. claim to be of pure Europesan stock, northern European to be exact. No serious refernce source ever alludes that the Aryans (the original ones) had blond hair and blue eyes. It is even more ironic that according the present definition of the Aryan Race had to exclude the very inventor of the nonsense. Hitler was neither blond nor did he have blue eyes, neither did many of his lieutenants. It gets even more ridiculous when these idiots use the term to mean "caucasian", i.e. not negro, not Asian, not Chinese, perhaps not even Armenian. Yet we know that there are very few peoples who can qulify as Cuacasians, i.e. natives of the Caucasus, including Armnenians. Very few of these peoples have blond hair and blue eyes as a rule.

 

I won't go into details as to what general sources say about the Aryan Blood or Aryan Race. These are readily available to the reader. I will only cite what Armenian sources say about it.

"Ariakan Rassa; Keghts gitakan termin. False scietific term. During the middle of the 19th c. some people promoted the theory by which they confused a linguistic group with racial divisions..... This theory was expolited by fascistic Nazis to justify their racial and criminal agendas."

We need not to say more.

 

Another article.

"Ariner; Ariq, Hndiranakan zhoghovourdneri hin anvanoum@. In scientific cirles the term is used to denote speakers of the IndoEuropean languages. In ancient monuments one finds the term as used by the natives of the IranoIndian region to describes themselves. .... Yeghishe goes as far as to call the Persians Aryan....According to Askhrhatsuyts an ancinet region of central Iran has been known as Arya...."

 

There are those who also equate "Aryan" with "Iranian", that one is the corrupted form of the other and visa versa.

 

One must not forget that in the Armenian language there is a bit of confusion and mythification. Some attempt to shw that the Armenian word "ari", to mean brave, courageous is derived from "ariakan" as in Aryan. Source after source this is refuted, even by the Master himself, Ajarian. The "ari" to mean brave is another form of "aru", i.e. man, male person. So, terms like "ariazn" or "ariazgn" simply mean "descendents of a "brave nation".

Are the Aryan Racists brave?

Look up their internet sites and you will see that they are the most cowardly bunch.

 

I found the following site fascinating. I did not read it all, I will, but in the meantime read below. You can learn more about the myth by clicking here;

http://www.gosai.com/chaitanya/saranagati/...n-invasion.html

 

What is an ‘Aryan’?

The Sanskrit word ‘Aryan’ refers to one who is righteous and noble. It is also used in the context of addressing a gentleman (Arya-putra, Aryakanya etc). 6 Nowhere in the Vedic literature is the word used to denote race or language. This was a concoction by Max Mueller who, in 1853, introduced the word ‘Arya’ into the English language as referring a particular race and language. He did this in order to give credibility to his Aryan race theory (see Part 2). However in 1888, when challenged by other eminent scholars and historians, Mueller could see that his reputation was in jeopardy and made the following statement, thus refuting his own theory - "I have declared again and again that if I say Aryas, I mean neither blood nor bones, nor hair, nor skull; I mean simply those who speak an Aryan language...to me an ethnologist who

speaks of Aryan race, Aryan blood, Aryan eyes and hair, is as great a sinner as a linguist who speaks of a dolichocephalic dictionary or a brachycephalic grammar." (Max Mueller, Biographies of Words and the Home of the Aryas, 1888, pg 120) But the dye had already been cast! Political and Nationalist groups in Germany and France exploited this racial phenomenon to propagate the supremacy of an assumed Aryan race of white people. Later, Adolf Hitler used this ideology to the extreme for his political hegemony and his barbaric crusade to terrorize Jews, Slavs and

other racial minorities, culminating in the holocaust of millions of innocent people. According to Mueller’s etymological explanation of ‘Aryan’, the word is derived from ‘ar’ (to plough, to cultivate).

Therefore Arya means ‘a cultivator, or farmer’. This is opposed to the idea that the Aryans were wandering nomads. V.S. Apte's Sanskrit-English Dictionary relates the word Arya to the root ‘r-’ to which the prefix ‘a’ has been added in order to give a negating meaning. Therefore the meaning of Arya is given as ‘excellent, best’, followed by ‘respectable’ and as a noun, ‘master, lord, worthy, honorable, excellent,’ ‘upholder of Arya values, and further: teacher, employer, master, father-in-law, friend.’

[hyebruin]

thanks Arpa ~~~I didn't know the term carried THIS MUCH controversy and history!!! I guess I'll have to look up even more! 'cause I'm still unsure whose version is the most accurate!!??

 

[ February 20, 2003, 06:40 PM: Message edited by: hyebruin ]

[hosank]

hmmm

 

basicslly, it is just a conflict between the term "aryan" and "indo-european". both meaning the same thing. according to what you wrote, "aryan" is in disuse so not to be confused with the white supremacist meaning for the word.

 

were armenians blonder and whiter before? maybe, i never travelled back in time to be sure. but in my opinion it is quite possible. in armenia, most people have darker white complexions, but once in a while, you notice someone (pure armenian) with golden blond hair, white skin and sometimes blue eyes. i know many white blond armenians, such as myself while im at it

 

one way to know how people were in the past is to look at ancient art and so on. many medieval armenian paintings show armenians with light skin and (though not really blond) but say light brown hair. same story with the greeks. alexandre the great is suposed to be blond.

 

but what ever these are all hypotheses and it does'nt really change anything to armenia's situation here.

[Arpa]

The following is from the Armenian version of HETQ, not found in the English version.

In a nutshell. We read that the Armenian Aryans are planning a rally to celebrate Mother Anahit on the day of Easter. The rally is planned to be held in the village of Khndzoresk, a suburb of Goris. That they will among others will have an "egg game", and on April 24 they will proceed to Tsitsernakanberd Memorial.

One commentator replies saying- “Who the **** cares about Anahit, why don’t we speak about the glorious Feast of Resurrection of Jesus”? Who remembers the Paulicisnd and the Thontrakians? Whose main theme was to rid ourselves from that judeo-greek mythology.

In my opinion the “resurrection” is not any different from the so fantastically fabulous legend of Aramazd and Anahit being husband and wife bearing the son Vahagn.

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http://hetq.am/arm/news/553/

 

Հայ Արիները Զատիկ են տոնում՝ փառաբանելով Մայր Անահիտին

15:21, 22 ապրիլի, 2011

Այսօր ՀԱՄ կենտրոնական գրասենյակում կատարվեց Հայ Աստվածների եւ Տիեզերքի Արարչի փառաբանման ծիսական արարողություն: Հայարիական (հեթանոսական) ծիսակարգը կատարել են ՀԱՄ առաջնորդ Արմեն Ավետիսյանը, քուրմ Մանուկը (Սերգեյ Մանուկյան) եւ քրմի թեկնածու Աշոտ Բադալյանը:

Վաղը Հայ Արիական Միաբանության (ՀԱՄ) եւ Հայ Ազգայնականների Համախմբման (ՀԱՀ) անդամները ՀԱՄ հոգեւոր հանձնախմբի առաջադրած քրմի բոլոր թեկնածուների հետ Զատիկի ծիսական ու տոնական արարողություն կանցկացնեն Գորիսից դեպի Ստեփանակերտ ճանապարհահատվածին՝ Խնձորեսկ գյուղի մերձակայքում գտնվող հնավայրաստղադիտարանի տեղում:

Այս տարածքում, ըստ հանրահայտ գիտնական Պարիս Հերունու ուսումնասիրությունների, եղել է Քարահունջի աստղադիտարանի նման մեկ այլ՝ ավելի փոքր աստղադիտարան:

Զատիկը Մայր Անահիտի` Հայոց պտղաբերության եւ մայրության Աստվածուհու տոնն է: Այն արիական-հեթանոսական կարեւոր ու առանցքային տոներից մեկն է:

ՀԱՄ լրատվական կենտրոնից հայտնում են, որ ՀԱՄ եւ ՀԱՀ անդամները կազմակերպել են տոնական եւ համերգային ծրագիր, որը կընթանա բազմագույն ձվերի ավանդական ձվախաղով, ազգային ուտեստների համտեսմամբ:

Իսկ Ապրիլի 24-ին վերջիններս կայցելեն Ծիծեռնակաբերդի հուշահամալիր եւ կհարգեն Հայոց ցեղասպանության միլիոնավոր զոհերի հիշատակը` եւս մեկ անգամ հավաստելով արդար վրեժի ու հայոց պահանջատիրության գաղափարներին նվիրվելու իրենց կամքը:

Edited April 22, 2011 by Arpa