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Jews and Turks - the best of friends and allies at each other throats? Who could imagine this? The world is getting back to normal, I guess:))))

I do not believe they were ever friends, just symbiotic mutualism. Now turkey believes it's better not to be seen as friends.

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ANALYSIS: THE WEST UNHAPPY WITH NEW TRANSFORMATIONS IN TURKEY'S FOREIGN POLICY

Naira Hayrumyan

 

ArmeniaNow

May 31, 2010

 

Politics

 

Dividing lines are emerging between Turkey and the West, marked by

Turkey's nuclear energy deal with Iran and by its efforts this weekend

to use its ships to break Israel sea blockade of Gaza.

 

The process of Turkey's disengagement from pro-Western forces was

clearly manifested when in January 2009 at the World Economic Forum

in Davos Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan accused Israel

of occupying the Palestinian-administered Gaza Strip.

 

Then, just this weekend, Turkish vessels set off from Istanbul to break

the Israeli blockade of Gaza from the sea, ending in intervention by

the Israeli military that left at least 10 dead Monday morning.

 

But the main discontent of the West is connected with the initiative

of Turkey and Brazil on Iran when earlier this month Ankara announced

that it was ready to provide enrichment for Iranian uranium. U.S.

 

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton responded to that development

by saying that there are "very serious disagreements" over Iran's

nuclear program and added that there are very serious differences

with the diplomacies of Brazil and Turkey towards Iran.

 

On Tuesday, June 1, Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu will

leave for Washington where he is expected to hold talks with the U.S.

 

secretary of state "to defuse the Turkish-American tensions."

 

The West is not satisfied with the Turkish policy on Armenia either.

 

In fact, the process of the ratification of the Armenian-Turkish

protocols has come to a standstill, and Western countries have approved

of Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan's decision to suspend the process.

 

The Turkish premier also had to cancel his trip to Argentina as

part of his Latin America tour because of the Armenian factor. The

Turkish Foreign Ministry said that although the Buenos Aires Autonomous

Administration had been granted permission to erect a monument to the

founder of modern Turkey, Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, it was canceled due

to an "unfriendly initiative of the Armenian circles."

 

Western experts think that "Turkey is becoming an immediate concern."

 

In a much-talked about article in The American Thinker, Joel J.

 

Sprayregen writes:

 

"...The transformation of Turkish foreign policy increasingly presents

a clear danger to American interests. The 'zero problems' foreign

policy of AK Foreign Minister Davutoglu advertises friendliness with

proximate neighbors. In practice, this means allying with rogue states

Iran and Syria (whom even President Obama recently saw fit to designate

a state sponsor of terrorism). Worse, Turkey now embraces terrorist

murder squads like Hamas and Hezbollah and fetes their leaders as

honored guests. Turkey hosted Sudanese President Bashir, who is under

indictment for crimes against humanity by the International Court

of Criminal Justice. Turkey's new alliances have left in tatters-but

not yet completely dismembered-its traditional military alliance with

Israel," the article says. "A country with a worldview that demonizes

resistance against terrorism is a problematic member of NATO... Our

officials are hardly aware that -- while Erdogan and Obama have

fulsomely flattered each other -- Erdogan uses his controlled media

to incite populist hatred of the U.S."

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So all these years of warm friendship were just convenience marriage? I don't think so.

The end result however is that Turkey successfully managed to ridicule and morally challenged the Israelis like no one before. Judeo_Anglo_Saxon_Turkish silent triumvirate is put on a test.

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So all these years of warm friendship were just convenience marriage? I don't think so.

The end result however is that Turkey successfully managed to ridicule and morally challenged the Israelis like no one before. Judeo_Anglo_Saxon_Turkish silent triumvirate is put on a test.

Yes I do believe so, that it was a con ;) marriage one needing a muslim friend in the middle east and the other needing a strong lobby in the USA. The word "yahudi" is an insult word used just like the "Ermeni" in turkey.

 

turkey has given up on the west, because they coudn't get the "pants" from the west in order to look western. The west knows turkey looks good in "shalvar" and it will never fit into the western lifestyle. Therefore turkey wants to be the best in the area instead of being a low class westerner.

 

Why you think turkey is getting closer to the Arab world and Iran?

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Yes I do believe so, that it was a con ;) marriage one needing a muslim friend in the middle east and the other needing a strong lobby in the USA. The word "yahudi" is an insult word used just like the "Ermeni" in turkey

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To quote one of the great modern philosophers Kojak (Telly Savalas) - “Who loves you baby!?” The answer- NOBODY.

Let us see what our great prophet Raffi said. At the time they were talking about the murderous furkish police and the kurdish robbers- “ՇՈՒՆԸ ՇՆԻՑ, ԵՐԿՈՒՍՆ ԷԼ ՄԻ ՏՆԻՑ” /“A dog is a dog, they’re both from the same house”.

LET DOG EAT DOG. WE THROW A DOGGYBONE AT THEM.

ՇՈՒՆՇԱՆՈՐԴԻՆԵՐ!!

http://www.virginmedia.com/images/rottweiler-431x300.jpg

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Why you think turkey is getting closer to the Arab world and Iran?

 

Well, I guess Turkey wants to be independent state:)We have to admit that they played their cards brilliantly.

They managed to convince the world that PKK are terrorist, they managed to get away with our "allegations"(their "intellectuals" were morning together with the Armenians on April 24), they agreed to let popular vote decide on Cyprus (through masquerade elections in the occupied part of the island), they brokered a deal with Iran (saving Iran's face), abolished visa regime with the Russians, thus their expectations for revenue from tourism would remain high (unlike the EU who are slow on everything), have signed a nuclear deal with the Russians and agreed on Southern stream pipeline construction.

 

 

Now Americans and Europeans can go to sleep...or better go back to the barn with tails between their legs!

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Well, I guess Turkey wants to be independent state:)We have to admit that they played their cards brilliantly.

They managed to convince the world that PKK are terrorist, they managed to get away with our "allegations"(their "intellectuals" were morning together with the Armenians on April 24), they agreed to let popular vote decide on Cyprus (through masquerade elections in the occupied part of the island), they brokered a deal with Iran (saving Iran's face), abolished visa regime with the Russians, thus their expectations for revenue from tourism would remain high (unlike the EU who are slow on everything), have signed a nuclear deal with the Russians and agreed on Southern stream pipeline construction.

 

 

Now Americans and Europeans can go to sleep...or better go back to the barn with tails between their legs!

Everything you said is true! But I do not believe they convinced anyone, every other country is after their interests just like turkey. As far as I'm concerned it's all politics and who said that politicians don't lie, they will do and say anything in order to get a bebeficial deal.

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How will this “accident?” be covered?

Look at the cover up from 43 years ago.

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http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ussliberty.html

Alleged in Probe of USS Liberty

A former Navy attorney who helped lead the military investigation of the 1967 Israeli attack on the USS Liberty that killed 34 American servicemen says former President Lyndon Johnson and his defense secretary, Robert McNamara, ordered that the inquiry conclude the incident was an accident.

In a signed affidavit released at a Capitol Hill news conference, retired Capt. Ward Boston said Johnson and McNamara told those heading the Navy's inquiry to "conclude that the attack was a case of 'mistaken identity' despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary."

It was "one of the classic all-American cover-ups," said retired Admiral Thomas Moorer, a former Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman who spent a year investigating the attack as part of an independent panel he formed with other former military officials. The panel also included a former US ambassador to Saudi Arabia, James Akins.

Torpedo hole in USS Liberty "Why would our government put Israel's interests ahead of our own?" Moorer asked from his wheelchair at the news conference. He was chief of naval operations at the time of the attack.

 

Moorer, who has long held that the attack was a deliberate act, wants Congress to investigate. [Newsday]

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And now, welcome to "The Best Little Whorehouse" of the Middle East

Also read the following and see the readers’ comments citing the Armenians and the Kurds.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article7141783.ece

From Times Online June 1, 2010

 

Turkey demands Israel be ‘punished’ over Gaza raidPhilippe Naughton 21 Comments

Recommend? (16) Turkey demanded today that Israel be punished for yesterday’s bungled commando raid on a flotilla of ships taking humanitarian aid to the Gaza Strip as international condemnation of the killings reached fever pitch.

 

At least nine activists, four of them identified as Turks and the remaining five thought also to be Turkish, were killed in the pre-dawn raid in international waters, when Israeli commandos rapelled from helicopters onto the fleet of ships.

 

Up to 40 Britons were among those detained and the Foreign and Commonwealth Office said that it was "urgently seeking access" to all of them. Foreign Office sources said, however, that many of those detained had refused to give their names to the Israelis, making it hard to give firm numbers of Britons involved.

 

It was confirmed earlier that one Briton, Ahsan Shamruk, was injured in the attack and had received medical treatment

 

Here are two of many comments;

John Mahon wrote:

Turkey:

Freedom for Kurdistan

Recognition of the Armenian genocide

Leave Cyprus

Then we'll talk.

June 1, 2010 3:11 PM BST on community.timesonline.co.uk

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Rob N wrote:

Erdogan and any other Turk voicing outrage over this episode can damn well shut up. They're just breathing a sigh of relief that the world, at the moment, isn't focused on THEIR vicious treatment of Armenians and Kurds and THEIR disregard for international law.

June 1, 2010 3:09 PM BST on community.timesonline.co.uk

Let’s see that picture again;

http://www.virginmedia.com/images/rottweiler-431x300.jpg

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