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In the state of Lousiana, USA, in the cities of Shreveport and Alexandria, the local governments have passed a law prohibiting young men and women from wearing loose-fitting pants, including low-fitting jeans that sit below the belt line, which can result in the appearing of underclothing covering intimate body parts.

 

As informed by Interfax, civil committee member Alexander Lusin said this has instigated many protests in which citizens don't want to have to view the underclothing of youth.

 

"Dressing in this manner is now impossible," he said.

 

We point out that a similar law may pass in the US state of Georgia, in the city of Atlanta. Conflicting reactions are occurring in the population of one of America's largest cities.

 

Panorama.am received these answers in response to a short survey:

 

 

 

 

a) the population doesn't want to view young men's underclothing

B) they especially don't want to see underclothing in public places

c) concerning girls, it depends on who it is, but in no case one's girlfriend

d) in any event, high-fitting pants aren't to be found in stores

e) women protested that the styles have been changed so as to fit still unformed young girls' waistlines, possibly causing future health problems…

 

 

Source: Panorama.am

 

 

ok lets see what answers we get - sorry if the pictures disturbs any of you / we will take them out / just don't be reporting them to MOD's -

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c3/Whale_Tail.jpg

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/1180623/2/istockphoto_1180623_low_cut_jeans.jpg

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it looks nice on many / but it's not for all ;)

 

 

Low-rise jeans give rise to a lot of bare derriere

By Gina Daugherty

The Cincinnati Enquirer

Plumber's butt. You know, that blindingly pale patch of derriere that peeks out from between a shirt that rides up and pants that slide down. Most commonly seen when a beefy plumber or other worker reaches or squats while on the job. Most common until recently, that is.

 

The Amana Effect is no longer just a boy's club, as women are baring their posteriors - sometimes intentionally, sometimes not - in the name of fashion. Low-rise jeans have booty poppin' out all over the place. Everyone is getting cheeky.

 

Call it the new cleavage.

 

At Bee Clean Car Wash in Mason, Annamarie Minturn and Cassie Thierauf, both 19, are baring their butts (albeit unintentionally) every time they lean over a car, bend down to vacuum or wipe down a tire. Thierauf's rhinestone-studded thong is there for all to see. She doesn't mean to, but when your pants hug your hips, it's bound to happen.

 

"It's not that I have them low so my thong can hang out," explains Thierauf. "It's a product of the pant."

 

Indeed. The space between Thierauf's belly button ring and the top of her jeans is at least three inches. She says the distance is greater on some of her other pants.

 

It's virtually impossible to find jeans to cover your hipbones these days, and finding them to cover your cheeks continues to get harder. When Sisqo rapped, "Let me see that thooooong," he probably didn't have to look very hard.

 

The thong is an absolute must for Latresha Lane. She runs Fast Lane Models in Cincinnati and without the thong, she and her models would be out of business. Visible panty lines (or VPL) are not an option.

 

'They show off your waist'

 

For the rest of us, our low-rise, hip baring jeans are causing all kinds of VPL. Some jeans are so low there isn't enough room for a zipper, as is the case with Levi's Too Superlows, which feature two snap buttons instead.

 

Technically speaking, the "rise" of jeans is the distance between the crotch and waist. The average rise is about 10 inches. But on low-rise pants, it can be as little as 6 inches, depending on the brand.

 

Recent University of Cincinnati graduate Marianne Pusz, 23, loves low-rise jeans. She won't wear anything else and says they are a "godsend to women with big butts."

 

"They show off your waist," Pusz says. "But if you don't have a butt, it's not going to make you look better by having your butt hang out. Older women wear the waist-high jeans, and it doesn't matter if you're the skinniest woman on the planet, they are going to make it look like you have a butt the size of Texas."

 

A dogged advocate of keeping cracks and thongs out of public view, Pusz buys Victoria's Secret low-cut bikini briefs. She tried going "commando" (sans underwear), but says it was "excruciating." The low-rise jeans phenomenon has led to a low-rise panty phenomenon.

 

Pusz is unbreakable in her resolve against panty showing, and she quickly decides only Britney Spears and Gwen Stefani can get away with it.

 

"Don't give me that, 'Oops I did it again, my thong is hanging out,' " says Pusz. "Unless you are Britney Spears, forget about it. If you are wearing low-rise jeans and regular underwear, you should be carted away. Panty lines plus showing your underwear is the cardinal sin of low-rise jeans."

 

Big shocker that Ryan Nesbitt doesn't mind, though. An 18-year-old from Mason, he has nothing against a half-inch to an inch of butt cleavage on a "Tara Reid-type" woman. "Bootylicious," he says.

 

All this butt cleavage has school administrators and some parents reeling. Not everyone wants to see the gluteus maximus in school, not even in anatomy class.

 

The Fairfield City School District last year revised its dress code to specifically address midriffs and low-slung pants.

 

"I think the dress code we had in place was 99 percent adequate," said board member Ann Crone. "But as styles and fads change, it needed to be tweaked to adapt to our student population."

 

Basically, the district agreed it doesn't want to see any midriffs or butt cleavage.

 

Take it from a plumber

 

Still, fashion comes and goes, so enjoy it now, as this butt-baring might be outdated by fall. Don't fret, though. There's still plumber's butt, unless Joe Schlueter has anything to do with it.

 

The owner of Schlueter Plumbing Inc. has been in the business for over 35 years. He has worked hard to shed the plumber's "showy" stigma. His plumbers wear uniforms.

 

"I can't guarantee you won't see a little butt crack," Schlueter says. "Plumbing does involve bending over a lot ... But we are conscious of it and we want to put someone in your home that you feel comfortable with."

 

And that's just better for everyone.

 

 

 

 

 

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LAWS OF STYLE

James Laver, costumer/designer, offers his "Laws on the Timetable of Style" which says that fashions have a timetable:

Indecent - 10 years before its time

Shameless - Five years before its time

Daring - One year before its time

Dowdy - One year after its time

Hideous - 10 years after its time

Ridiculous - 20 years after its time

Amusing - 30 years after its time

Charming - 70 years after its time

Romantic - 100 years after its time

Beautiful - 150 years after its time

EVERY ERA HAS SHOCKERS

Fashion has always taunted social mores, but the past century has really pushed the limits of taste:

Early 1920s - Flappers, short haircuts on women; cowl neck and halter top

Late 1920s - Knee-length hemline marks new high for women's legs

1950s - Stiletto heels come into fashion

1955 - Marilyn Monroe stands over subway grate for movie Seven Year Itch and flashes movie-goers her white panties

1960s - Bell bottoms, hip huggers and go-go boots define "mod" scene

1970s - Hot pants. Enough said.

1984 - "Anything goes" emerges as fashion credo

1990 - Madonna starts wearing lingerie as outerwear, complete with cone-shaped bras

1999 - Britney Spears wears midriff-revealing Catholic school-girl outfit in Baby, One More Time video

2000 - Jennifer Lopez wears eye-popping, barely there Versace dress to Oscars

2000 - Britney Spears makes news again, this time wearing a nude, two-piece body suit to MTV Video Music Awards.

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Well I'll add my 2 cents about it.

They look aweful and ugly, not sexy at all.

I don't understand why they call it underwear when it is not worn under? ;)

Agreed Yervant,

 

I actually hated the large humongous pants that the youth started wearing. It is so undignified and disrespectful when I see very young and beautiful girls/women showing off their bellies at places like Macy's, Bloomingdales and Neiman Marcus. It's not only unbecoming it's just disturbing, discourteous and impudent to flaunt their body parts in colleges, on the streets and department stores. I certainly don't like either of them. (The stupid huge pants that guys have to literally hold their pants to hold it in place and young women flaunting their bellies and their body parts all over the place.

 

I wish they forbid such crude attire or not of it nationwide (all over the U.S.)!!!

 

 

 

 

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Just an observation....this fad of low rise jeans has been around for 7+ years in L. A. area, and from the beginninig, the women who objected to it most were the ones who could never pull it off. :) However, the size 0,2, 4 and 6 sizes looked really good in them. Most women wore them with appropriate (also low cut) underwear; however, those who wanted to show off their panties, did so intentionally.

 

And I will stress and restress this point..whether you like it or not, when all you can find in stores are low cut jeans, you buy and wear LOW CUT JEANS. Unless you can afford to have your clothes custom made, you willl have to settle for what is available. The stores and retailers do dictate what the masses wear.

 

 

But not to worry, to those offended by this hideous showing of "body parts", you will find the newest trend much more to your puritan likings. :)

 

 

http://www.instyle.com/instyle/trends/thel...1614996,00.html

 

I guess high waisted pants are back. Woe to the Melrose/ Ventura crowd. Lol.

 

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Just an observation....this fad of low rise jeans has been around for 7+ years in L. A. area, and from the beginninig, the women who objected to it most were the ones who could never pull it off. :) However, the size 0,2, 4 and 6 sizes looked really good in them. Most women wore them with appropriate (also low cut) underwear; however, those who wanted to show off their panties, did so intentionally.

 

And I will stress and restress this point..whether you like it or not, when all you can find in stores are low cut jeans, you buy and wear LOW CUT JEANS. Unless you can afford to have your clothes custom made, you willl have to settle for what is available. The stores and retailers do dictate what the masses wear.

But not to worry, to those offended by this hideous showing of "body parts", you will find the newest trend much more to your puritan likings. :)

http://www.instyle.com/instyle/trends/thel...1614996,00.html

 

I guess high waisted pants are back. Woe to the Melrose/ Ventura crowd. Lol.

 

Actually if you haven't tried Gap jeans then please go ahead and try some of their jeans, since they have different fits starting from classic, boot cut, high rise and low rise, even those old lady like jeans they offer online,, so it's worth a try if you are looking for a pair of high rise, which I am sure you will find in any gap store,,

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So!

They think they have created those baggy and saggy pants?

Do they know that our ancestors, mostly those engaged in the farming business wore them for many millenia? It was known as "shalvar/shalwar". I don't know the origin and the etymology of the word. Is it Arabic? Whay say you Johannes? My hunch is that it may be of Sanskrit/Indian origin.

Please allow me one more pun/barakhagh. Does it mean "shal/shawl-var' as in var/below, or vartik? :P :)

Do a google search using "shalwar" or "shalvar" as a keyword and see what you get.

Here is one. Observe the Armenian connection;

http://www.persiancarpetguide.com/RugNotes...n_Pantaloon.htm

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it's really interesting Arpa, because the construction workers in Japan wore those loose fitting pants as well (I was surprised when I saw them, for a moment I thought they looked like the Turkish whirling dervishes) and this is now in 2007 not some 100 years ago!

 

check out the pic

http://www.fashionisspinach.com/images/0307/puffypants.jpg

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Just an observation....this fad of low rise jeans has been around for 7+ years in L. A. area, and from the beginninig, the women who objected to it most were the ones who could never pull it off. :) However, the size 0,2, 4 and 6 sizes looked really good in them. Most women wore them with appropriate (also low cut) underwear; however, those who wanted to show off their panties, did so intentionally.

 

And I will stress and restress this point..whether you like it or not, when all you can find in stores are low cut jeans, you buy and wear LOW CUT JEANS. Unless you can afford to have your clothes custom made, you willl have to settle for what is available. The stores and retailers do dictate what the masses wear.

But not to worry, to those offended by this hideous showing of "body parts", you will find the newest trend much more to your puritan likings. :)

http://www.instyle.com/instyle/trends/thel...1614996,00.html

 

I guess high waisted pants are back. Woe to the Melrose/ Ventura crowd. Lol.

 

Both my male professors at college have complained to me about the young girls coming to school and in winter times as well mind you showing off their whole bellies. The professors thought that it is utterly improper, out of place and taunting to them males for the way that these young women were dressed in college.

 

Therefore it is not only women such as myself who object about those very low rise jeans and pants that you can see the whole abdomen. I don't believe that it's because you can or cannot pull if off; but there is such a thing as an improper behaviour. I don't think anyone has gone around to ask women who couldn't pull it off that have or haven't objected for showing off their complete bellies by wearing very low rise pants; but there is such a thing as an improper behaviour and descency.

 

I don't care how many stores carries them; I would shop around until I find the high rise pants to wear.

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http://media3.guzer.com/pictures/europe_vs_usa.jpg

 

I think this popular picture answers the question :) ... Of course I don't agree with the US vs Europe message as they are some pretty ugly women in Europe as well. But I think the law should only apply to ugly people.

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Illegal:

 

http://www.iranian.com/Anyway/2003/December/Images/fat2.jpg http://host.jwcinc.net/1245568/thong1.jpg

 

Legal:

 

http://www.vecernji.hr/system/galleries/pics/060525/a-borat2.jpg http://www.ghanaweb.biz/GHP/img/pics/45811092.jpg

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Who cares what people wear? If you don't like it, look away! Fashion comes and goes, subcultures come and go, and so do their fashion.

 

If there's one thing that bothers me, it's dress codes, which is why avoid places where I am forced to wear a certain outfit, whether I feel comfortable in it or not. Disrespect-misrespect. Who's disrespecting whom when codes like these are forced on someone?

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So!

They think they have created those baggy and saggy pants?

Do they know that our ancestors, mostly those engaged in the farming business wore them for many millenia? It was known as "shalvar/shalwar". I don't know the origin and the etymology of the word. Is it Arabic? Whay say you Johannes? My hunch is that it may be of Sanskrit/Indian origin.

Please allow me one more pun/barakhagh. Does it mean "shal/shawl-var' as in var/below, or vartik? :P :)

Do a google search using "shalwar" or "shalvar" as a keyword and see what you get.

Here is one. Observe the Armenian connection;

http://www.persiancarpetguide.com/RugNotes...n_Pantaloon.htm

Սիրելի Արփա, եկուր այս ախորժաբեր պատկերներուն քով Աճառեան-Մաճառեան չմտցնենք: Արաբները «սրուալ» կ'անուանէն, այսինքն մեզի նման «ր» գիրը, «լ» գիրէն առաջ: Մենք ալ շարուալ կանուանենք: Քո մէջբերած կայքը հետաքրքիր է: Բայց շար-շոր բառէն առաջացած չի՞ կրնար ըլլալ: Շոր հայերէն կը նշանակէ լաթ:

 

Ինչ որ է, Հանրագիտարանին մէջ նկարագրուած է պատմական Հայաստանի գաւառական տարազները, ըստ գործածման վայրին: Կարծեմ Կարինի, Աղձնիքի, Կեսարիոյ տարածքին շարուալ կը զգենէին, սակայն Տարօն-Սասուն-Վասպուրականի տարածքին փողաձեւ, այսինքն վերէն վար հաւասար լայնքով տաբատ կը հագնէին: Նկատեցէ՛ք երգի պարի ազգագրական համոյթներու անդամները ինչ կը հագնին. պարզապէս գծաւոր տաբատ:

 

Տաբատը մեր ազգային տարազն է:

 

 

 

 

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Տաբատ կամ ԱնդրաՎարտիկ = ShaLvar :ap: s@lvar

Կիսա~Անդրա~Վարտիկ = Karj ShaLvar

 

Վարտիկ = bottoms underclothing / underwear

Կիսա~Վարտիկ= Boxers

 

now what do you call a G-String in Armenia ? - Mercedes Bens Վարտիկ :) ??? :ap: Գ-Լարա~Վարտիկ ?

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Ինչ որ է, Հանրագիտարանին մէջ նկարագրուած է պատմական Հայաստանի գաւառական տարազները, ըստ գործածման վայրին: Կարծեմ Կարինի, Աղձնիքի, Կեսարիոյ տարածքին շարուալ կը զգենէին, սակայն Տարօն-Սասուն-Վասպուրականի տարածքին փողաձեւ, այսինքն վերէն վար հաւասար լայնքով տաբատ կը հագնէին: Նկատեցէ՛ք երգի պարի ազգագրական համոյթներու անդամները ինչ կը հագնին. պարզապէս գծաւոր տաբատ:

Տաբատը մեր ազգային տարազն է:

Ուզում ես ասել սա?

http://www.iatp.am/culture/taraz2/4.html

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Just an observation....this fad of low rise jeans has been around for 7+ years in L. A. area, and from the beginninig, the women who objected to it most were the ones who could never pull it off. :)

Not true. I've always been able to pull it off and still can pull it off, but I won't * I've realized that I can look much sexier and elegant in a classy classic outfit than in low rise pants. I know that I'm much more respected looking classy than looking skimpy. And I still wear the trendy flare leg or the skinny jeans, but I'm reluctant to show off my skin.

 

Those who can pull if off and want to show off much skin can do that. I don't care about that. But I do care about the majority who can't pull it off, yet for some reason believe that it's OK walking down the street with their body fats hanging out from their sides. It's because of these people that I voted "yes" for the dress code.

 

And no, all kinds of pants have always existed. Like Konfetka mentioned, various styles of pants are always available in stores.

 

 

 

 

 

*Disclaimer: I might have worn very low rise in my first year in college, but that's what immature young "adults" do, right?

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Not true. I've always been able to pull it off and still can pull it off, but I won't * I've realized that I can look much sexier and elegant in a classy classic outfit than in low rise pants. I know that I'm much more respected looking classy than looking skimpy. And I still wear the trendy flare leg or the skinny jeans, but I'm reluctant to show off my skin.

 

Those who can pull if off and want to show off much skin can do that. I don't care about that. But I do care about the majority who can't pull it off, yet for some reason believe that it's OK walking down the street with their body fats hanging out from their sides. It's because of these people that I voted "yes" for the dress code.

 

And no, all kinds of pants have always existed. Like Konfetka mentioned, various styles of pants are always available in stores.

 

 

*Disclaimer: I might have worn very low rise in my first year in college, but that's what immature young "adults" do, right?

Again we agree on this one too anoushik jan!!!! :) I can also pull it off; but exactly like you feel and think, I always see myself as looking elegant (that means not showing off skin) is far better. Being a fashion savvy person and artistic individual, wherever I go people tend to notice my choice of clothes, how I carry myself with a good knowledge of myself and pride and I turn heads (only because I have been told that I am a very elegant and tasteful dresser).

 

I am not (I repeat I am not) trying to show it off in here by these words; but since it came up again, I am merely stating as myself for an example that YOU DON'T HAVE TO SHOW OFF SKIN TO LOOK REAL NICE AND BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!

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Who cares what people wear? If you don't like it, look away! Fashion comes and goes, subcultures come and go, and so do their fashion.

 

If there's one thing that bothers me, it's dress codes, which is why avoid places where I am forced to wear a certain outfit, whether I feel comfortable in it or not. Disrespect-misrespect. Who's disrespecting whom when codes like these are forced on someone?

 

Surely you can look away; but it is utterly improper such demeaning dress codes in public.

 

There is a limit to how far and how utterly distastefully open the code of dressing can be? After all, code of ethics must be rendered suitable, proper and fitting. I don't think anyone person draws respect by wearing such demeaning attire in public or in good company.

 

 

 

 

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Surely you can look away; but it is utterly improper such demeaning dress codes in public.

 

There is a limit to how far and how utterly distastefully open the code of dressing can be? After all, code of ethics must be rendered suitable, proper and fitting. I don't think anyone person draws respect by wearing such demeaning attire in public or in good company.

 

It's improper, demeaning, and distasteful to YOU. Now, leave the rest of the world population, who have more things on their mind than what other people are wearing, alone. No one is stopping you from dressing like a snob, so why should you meddle in with what some teens and people who apparently can't "pull it off" like to wear?

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It's improper, demeaning, and distasteful to YOU. Now, leave the rest of the world population, who have more things on their mind than what other people are wearing, alone. No one is stopping you from dressing like a snob, so why should you meddle in with what some teens and people who apparently can't "pull it off" like to wear?

And you are a demeaning individual to speak like that with me!!!!! :angry: You are downright annoying!!!!! Why do you take it personally and be overly sensitive like that??? I wasn't referring it to you; but what I think and what people around me think who happen to have a sensible and a proper way of dressing in public.

 

You should've been born a man who is "gervazan", meaning always likes to fight for anything and everything just TO FIGHT!!!!!! :angry: Because that's all you seem to do!!!!!!

 

I tell you what... why don't you shut up and mind your business!!!!! You are in the Netherlands and we are talking here in the UNITED STATES. So don't mind in our business here which is in THE U.S.! Or at least if you are going to speak your mind then do so with a little more gentleness, will you???????

 

We are not enemies here, we are merely addressing our opinions and how we and others around us view things.

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And you are a demeaning individual to speak like that with me!!!!! :angry: You are downright annoying!!!!! :angry:

 

Boy oh boy your character is the exact same as A MAN. You should've been born a man who is "gervazan", meaning always likes to fight for anything and everything just TO FIGHT!!!!!! :angry: Because that's all you like to do!!!!!!1

 

I tell you what... why don't you shut up and mind your own business!!!!! You are in the Netherlands and we are talking here in the UNITED STATES. So don't mind in our business here which is in THE U.S.!!!!!

Anahid. PLEASE, PLEASE! This is my millionth plea to you to please read the posts in their entirety before responding.

Nairi has been here longer than most of us. She has not offended anybody, except that, at times she may have hinted that she is disappointed with those "three legged armenian men" whose third leg seem to be longer than the other two, or the length of their brains.

She has contributed more value, be it in language and literature than 90% of our correspondents.

What if her views may be a little un-orthodox So what! So are some of my views.

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Anahid. PLEASE, PLEASE! This is my millionth plea to you to please read the posts in their entirety before responding.

Nairi has been here longer than most of us. She has not offended anybody, except that, at times she may have hinted that she is disappointed with those "three legged armenian men" whose third leg seem to be longer than the other two, or the length of their brains.

She has contributed more value, be it in language and literature than 90% of our correspondents.

What if her views may be a little un-orthodox So what! So are some of my views.

Arpa, instead of addressing it to me please address it to her. She is taking everything VERY PERSONALLY!!!!!

 

And furthermore again address it to her to read it AGAIN and AGAIN and while you're at it you do the again reading too!!!!! I didn't offended her, I wasn't referring to her; but solely to the code of ethics of today!!!!!!!!! She should slow down!!!!!!

 

I was merely stating a fact and how I see and view some of the downright crazy way the youth and even middle aged people dress in an extremely distastefull fashion!!!!!!

 

She has picked up a fight with me AGAIN!!!!!!!!! Not me!!!!!!!!

 

If she has been a longer time in here and that is more reason for her to think through rather than fight fight fight and fight some more. We can have different views you know???? All we have to do is exercise more patience and a little bit more gentleness while we have differing views.

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I'm sorry to say this but all of you missed the point of this law. The primary target of this law are African-American males who wear their pants well bellow the waist line. It's not the females they worry about.

 

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/08/30/fashion/30baggy190.5.jpg

 

Here is the NYT story if you feel like reading

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/30/fashion/30baggy.html

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