Zartonk Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 I can't wait for the day when we take back ARizona and ARkansas! After making a stop in ARuba, the great SunAR wARriors shall plunder ARgentina. And Mos, it is ColoARdo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 After making a stop in ARuba, the great SunAR wARriors shall plunder ARgentina. And Mos, it is ColoARdo. Let's not forget all of ARabia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armenak Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 nARnia? ARgentina? I had to contribute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 ARa vay, vay... vay, vay, vay, vay... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johannes Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 Argile կլկլակ Արագիլ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 As long as we are spoofing this “AR” thing, let us look at “aryuts/ԱՌիւծ/”, “artsiv/ԱՐծիւ/” and lastly , to “arnet/ԱՌնէտ/”, the rat which somehow may have a connection with the Latin Rattus Rattus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 And we forgot my fARt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 And we forgot my fARt Did you mean tARt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 (edited) And we forgot my fARt Yes Domino, the Pizza King, aka QB, McFadi ...etc. Your "fARt" smells sweeter than that of McFARTy". Edited March 25, 2007 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zartonk Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Guys, don't joke: All human ARt originated in the AR-some ARq (or if you will, ARk).' AR-2 D2 is Armenian as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johannes Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 (edited) Թերեւս ոմանց թուի թէ, ապազգայնացած հայեր ծաղրի կենթարկեն մեր սրբութիւնները: Այդպէս չէ երբէ՛ք: Մենք այս նոր պատմա«գիտ»ութիւնն է, որ կը հարցաքննենք: Ցաւօք կարօտախտով կը յիշեմ խորհրդային պատմագիտութիւնը: Այնտեղ հայ ժողովուրդի նոր ժամանակի պատմութիւնը աղաւաղուած էր, պատշաճեցնելու համար. դասակարգային պայքարի խնդիրներուն, համայնավար գաղափարախօսութեան եւ բոլշեւ գործիչներու գործունէութեան: Բայց հին պատմութիւնը լուրջ մակարդակի վրայ կը գտնուէր: Խորհրդային պատմագիտութիւնը ձաղկած է քմահաճ մեկնաբանումը՝ պատմական դէպքերուն ու դէմքերուն: Այն ժամանակ ամէն մարդ չէր կարող գիրք հրատարակել: Ամէն խօսափող բռնող երգիչ չէր համարուէր: Ամէն գիրք հրատարակող գիտնական չէր համարուէր: Գիտաքննադատական սարսափելի, բայց օգտակար կառոյցներ կային: Այժմ՝ ազատութեան այս դարում, վերահսկողութեան բացակայութեան պայմանում, չեմ կարողանում անվերապահ ընդունել հրամցուածը: Ու՞ր է գիտութիւնների Ակադեմիան, ինչո՞ւ թերագնահատւում է այդ կառոյցը: Թէ՞՝ փող վճարողը ինքն էլ պիտի որոշի հրատարակելիք, չի հրատարակելիք մատեանները: Փող վճարողը ինքը պիտի որոշի թէ՝ իրականում Արա գեղեցիկի հաւատարմութիւնը տիկին նուարդին ռազմական եւ դիւանագիտական յաղթանա՞կ էր հայ ազգին, թէ պարտութիւն: Իսկ Շամիրամի ջրանցքը իրականում Արաարատեան արքաները չեն պեղել, այլ Շամիրամ թագուհին....??? Այսպէս հաւատացնում էին չէ՞ մեզ, երբ Ուրարտական սեպագրերը տակաւին չէին վերծանուել... Ի՞նչ է տիարք, թողնենք սեպագրերը եւ վերադառնա՞նք աւանդութեանց եւ առասպելանց: Իսկ նոր պատմա«բան»ները, չես գիտեր ի՞նչ փաստելու մղումով. կը ջրեն գիտութիւնը եւ անոր նուաճումները, ազգային սնապարծութեան տուրք տալով կը յօրինեն նոր «հայոց պատմութիւն», որտեղ արձանագրուածները, նոյնինքն 5-րդ դարի պատմիչները պիտի չի համարձակէին գրել: Սիրելիք՝ պատկերացրէք, որ Աստուած մի օր վճռել է դատի հրաւիրել հայ եւ թուրք ազգի ներկայացուցիչները, հարթելու համար հայ-թուրք կնճիռը եւ «արդարութիւն» բաշխելու իրաւատէրին: Ձեր խօսքի իրաւացի լինելը փաստելու համար շատ պիտի դժուարանաք հենց այս հայա«գիտ»ական պատմա«գիտ»ական աշխատասիրութեանց համար, քանզի ձեր վստահելիութիւնը կասկածի ենթարկել էք, կասկածելի դարձնելով արդար խօսքն էլ միատեղ: Ձեր մանկութեան տարիներին երբեւիցէ չէ՞ք ունկնդրել գայլի պատմութիւնը, որտեղ հովիւը մի քանի անգամ կը խաբէ գիւղացիներին. ահազանգելով իբր գայլն է եկել գիւղի հօտը յափշտակելու: Բայց երբ իրապէս գայլը գալիս է. հովիւը մենակ մնում է իր հօտի պաշտպանութեան գործում, քանզի գիւղացիք չեն կարողանում հաւատալ հովիւի ահազանգին այս անգամ: Հեռատեսիլից կամ այլ տեղից յարգելի Արտակ Մովսիսեանին լաւապէս ունկնդրելու բախտ չի վիճակուել ինձ: Բայց ինչ որ լսել եմ իր բերանից շշմեցրել է ինձ: Նա խօսում է նախամեսրոպեան հայ գրերի մասին առանց դոյզն իսկ դէմքի մկանի պրկումի, կամ զգացական արտայայտութեան, այնպիսի սովորական ոճով, որպէս թէ մի շատ պա՜րզ հանրաճանաչ իրողութեան մասին է խօսում: Ազատ եւ Անկախ Հայաստանի լսատեսողական միջոցները կարծես թէ քաջալերում են նրա նմաններին, եթերով արտայայտուելու միջոց տրամադրելով նրան: Նա (Արտակ Մովսիսեանը) կազմել է ցանկ այդ նախամեսրոպեան հայ տառերի մասին: Եթէ որեւէ անձ այդ ցանկը կարող է այստեղ ներկայացնել, անհուն շնորհակալ կը լինիմ նրան: Նա մեր թուարկութիւնից 6000 տարիներ առաջ տեղի ունեցած դէպքերը նկարագրելիս, նշում է հայերի մասնակցութիւնը: Լաւագոյն դէպքում նա կարող էր ասել՝ նախահայեր, բայց ոչ հայեր: Նախահայկական ցեղեր մասնակցել են հայ ազգի կազմաւորմանը: Սակայն այդօրինակ ցեղերին պարզապէս «հայ» կոչել յանցանք է գիտութեան եւ տրամաբանութեան հանդէպ: Edited March 26, 2007 by Johannes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aratta-Kingdom Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Thanks for telling me but there work is pure crap, okay. there is nothing good about it about what? there nationalist historians nationalist historians? who are you talking about? who are you talking about? who make it look like or where we descended from were only Armenians, and its revisioned crap like this shouldn't exist if they are so "good" with there crappy theories we would see this everywhere yet we don't I want you to quote them saying what you just claimed they said. its for Armenians who like to dream alot, and don't want to go further. Facing facts are hard sometimes. we'll get back to this after you prove they said what you claimed they did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aratta-Kingdom Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 But off coarse. We DID start life on Earth. Mu and Lemuria were Armenian, and Atlantis was in Lake Van. Zartonk? What happened to You Your Highness? Falling down already? Can't fight the gravity anymore? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aratta-Kingdom Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Not to forget the Egyptian god RA. I guess tghose Egyptians were dyslexic. They read AR as RA. don't guess Arpa since you know that much, why don't you say who they read. I'm sure you know they read from right to left, but you have chose to ignore that fact. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aratta-Kingdom Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 As long as we are spoofing this “AR” thing, let us look at “aryuts/ԱՌիւծ/”, “artsiv/ԱՐծիւ/” and lastly , to “arnet/ԱՌնէտ/”, the rat which somehow may have a connection with the Latin Rattus Rattus. Yeah Ar-pa let me add to your list Ararat Aragats Artsak Argisht Aryun Aru Arev ...and the list goes on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aratta-Kingdom Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 And we forgot my fARt how about bARk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aratta-Kingdom Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 (edited) are you guys done with the gossip? shall we get back to the main topic? Ancient Records of Armenians and Armenian History Edited March 26, 2007 by Aratta-Kingdom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zartonk Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 smile.gif Zartonk? What happened to You Your Highness? Falling down already? smile.gif Can't fight the gravity anymore? LOL Hey...Pure Noblemen like us need a little fun too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aratta-Kingdom Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Hey...Pure Noblemen like us need a little fun too... You could have at least ask your loyal servant for help. I would have sing Chunga-Changa for You. Lav Zartonak jan, yes hela. I'll be back in couple of months. Lav mnacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellektor Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Regarding our claims to our historic homeland, whether Armenia existed starting 700 BC or starting 3500 BC, it doesn't really make a difference. It is a fact that Armenians have a much longer history in the area than Turks/Azeris do. Besides, historic justifications for territorial claims do not matter in the eyes of the international community. A proof of this is Karabagh. It's been a while that Armenians of Karabagh separated themselves from Azerbaijan, yet not a single nation recognizes its sovereignty, regardless of the fact that Armenians have constituted a majority in Karabagh for centuries. All it takes is the strength to impose these facts (Karabagh, Western Armenia, etc.) to the world. You are right. What Armenians should do is cling on the liberated land, strengthen the Army; even start thinking about creating a weapons industry: it was the Armenians after all, who were designing the Soviet rockets and MiGs so why can't we have an industry of our own? In any case we shouldn't allow any Armenian to even think of ceding a square nanometer of land to the sore losers and perpetrators of the Artsakh war no matter how the faggots try to tempt us with promises of J*wish dollars, hollow words they used to utter to force the peoples of the Soviet Sionist Union to bring down the Judeo-Bolshevik regime they had created to destroy Russia. The Artsakh movement did just that: the Armenians never get a droplet of shit's worth of credit for that or the legitimate rights of the people of Artsakh despite their earning of their freedom with their blood let alone the promised dollars... All they got is war and dark years and the Solidarity movement gets all the credits while Poland wasn't even in the jUSSR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararat_arev Posted April 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 (edited) http://a513.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/32/l_5cde695c632151ff81f66209ac6a9ca8.jpg SOLAR (AREV) ORION-ARYAN TEMPLE Revelation 21 and many other places in the "Bible" mention the Solar (Arev) temple, which is from the Armenian Highlands. The solar temple (solar cross) pattern with the exact 4 sides/pillars/seasons/winds of heaven 3 months in each of the 4 seasons, the solar (Arev) temple. (note: same as the URHAI-URFA temple as well) http://www.armenianhighland.com/images/nkarner/nkar_2148.jpg ARMENIAN KINGDOM OF MITANNI QUEEN NEFERTITI OF MITANNI, HUSBAND AKHENATEN AND FAMILY http://www.armenianhighland.com/images/nkarner/nkar_5525.jpg UNBROKEN MILLENNIA OLD SYMBOLISM. ROYAL FAMILY OF CILICIAN ARMENIA. KING LEVON III AND QUEEN KERAN. 1272. ILLUMINATED MANUSCRIPT MADE BY RENOWNED ILLUMINIST MASTER [TSAŁKOŁ] TOROS ROSLIN. SEVEN RAYS [+1=8 FOR THE QUEEN...] FOR SEVEN MEMBERS OF THE ROYAL FAMILY... Edited April 12, 2007 by Ararat_arev 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagopn Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 (edited) I see the Monkey Brigade had done a lot of ridiculing in this thread. The main target was the Ar syllable, name of the solar deity, and proposedderivations thereof. Most attempts at humor were punkish at best by what seems to be college age brats. Someone at some point also ignorantly dismissed the possibility that Ra is an inversion of Ar. That someone, I think it was more than one, is apparently unaware of some important facts: Ra did not make its ascendency, assuming it ever existed prior to, until the 5th dynasty. Surprisingly enough, the Wikifraudia article on Ra is decent and does treat well the history of this deity. Monkeypedia Brittannica says that Ra was always present in Egyptian myth, but doesn't offer proof. Try searching for proof in vain, if you have some time to waste from your precious years. It ain't there. Ra is a relatively new anunciation of the Sun, and was often used, for some odd reason (a somewhat common practice for Egyptians), in composites of various "levels" of importance with local and older Sun gods such as Amun-Ra, Atun-Ra during Akhenaten/Nefertitit's reign at Amarna, and so on. Speaking of Amarna and Akhenaten/Nefertiti pair, there was this enigmatic figure named Ay http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ay who supposedly was either a high level minister of some sort, or perhaps even a father-in-law to Tutankhamun or Kia, Tut's mother. There is speculation after speculation about this fellow, but the fellow name was Ay! Who knows? Eh? This is ancient history! So, we know that Ra didn't show up until relatively late in the game, seeing light only during the 5th dynasty, already being afforded a sanctuary/temple in Heliopolis/Lunnu. So where and why did he show up? Who the hell knows! it's ancient history! But, then there is this recurring theme of backwards languages used in mythological reenacments, rituals of living as the deity in native American cultures, and also there is this large number of backwards scripts in Etruscan tradition for sacred writings. Backwards writing, mirror scripts, are a long standing tradition for cryptic cults, cryptic personalities (recal Leonardo da Vinci) and so on. Therefore, is it POSSIBLE that Ra can be Ar? Yes. it is POSSIBLE. Is it provable? Not that I know of, but who cares? How many of the stupid ASSumptions (such as "Urartuan" is a relative of Chechen) in archeology, linguistics and historiography are provable and actually proven? hardly any, really! This is ancient history! We live, breathe, and eat ASSumptions when dealing in ancient history! So why should the Armenian be any different from, say, everyone else? BTW, Did they ever find that altar where Abraham was going to slit the throat and skin his son alive at? Or did they ever find that donkey-drawn carriage that aided in Abraham's escape from Egypt "with more silver and gold than he came with?" I tell you, Armenians are being taken for a ride (on a donkey-drawn carriage emptied of its silver and gold). Edited January 27, 2014 by hagopn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagopn Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 http://a513.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/32/l_5cde695c632151ff81f66209ac6a9ca8.jpgSOLAR (AREV) ORION-ARYAN TEMPLE Revelation 21 and many other places in the "Bible" mention the Solar (Arev) temple, which is from the Armenian Highlands. The solar temple (solar cross) pattern with the exact 4 sides/pillars/seasons/winds of heaven 3 months in each of the 4 seasons, the solar (Arev) temple.(note: same as the URHAI-URFA temple as well)http://www.armenianhighland.com/images/nkarner/nkar_2148.jpgARMENIAN KINGDOM OF MITANNI QUEEN NEFERTITI OF MITANNI, HUSBAND AKHENATEN AND FAMILYhttp://www.armenianhighland.com/images/nkarner/nkar_5525.jpgUNBROKEN MILLENNIA OLD SYMBOLISM. ROYAL FAMILY OF CILICIAN ARMENIA.KING LEVON III AND QUEEN KERAN. 1272. ILLUMINATED MANUSCRIPT MADEBY RENOWNED ILLUMINIST MASTER [TSAŁKOŁ] TOROS ROSLIN. SEVEN RAYS[+1=8 FOR THE QUEEN...] FOR SEVEN MEMBERS OF THE ROYAL FAMILY... This is absolutely riveting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagopn Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 QUOTE(Dave @ Mar 11 2007, 01:36 PM) 192116 Regarding our claims to our historic homeland, whether Armenia existed starting 700 BC or starting 3500 BC, it doesn't really make a difference. It is a fact that Armenians have a much longer history in the area than Turks/Azeris do. Besides, historic justifications for territorial claims do not matter in the eyes of the international community. A proof of this is Karabagh. It's been a while that Armenians of Karabagh separated themselves from Azerbaijan, yet not a single nation recognizes its sovereignty, regardless of the fact that Armenians have constituted a majority in Karabagh for centuries. I don't know if this fellow is writing anymore, but this is a fallacious opinion. Yes, it does matter, but is currently only applicable to a select few, such as the Zionist Jews who milk the historicity of their claims. Simply because Armenian historical claims are dismissed by the so-called "International Community" (which in itself is a farcical rubric) does not make these claims invalid or pointless in some future era. The work to prove Armenian presence in Armenia must go on unabated. All it takes is the strength to impose these facts (Karabagh, Western Armenia, etc.) to the world. Yes, indeed, and the work has to be done in the meanwhile. You are right. What Armenians should do is cling on the liberated land, strengthen the Army; even start thinking about creating a weapons industry: it was the Armenians after all, who were designing the Soviet rockets and MiGs so why can't we have an industry of our own? Agreed 100%! In any case we shouldn't allow any Armenian to even think of ceding a square nanometer of land to the sore losers and perpetrators of the Artsakh war no matter how the faggots try to tempt us with promises of J*wish dollars, hollow words they used to utter to force the peoples of the Soviet Sionist Union to bring down the Judeo-Bolshevik regime they had created to destroy Russia. The Artsakh movement did just that: the Armenians never get a droplet of shit's worth of credit for that or the legitimate rights of the people of Artsakh despite their earning of their freedom with their blood let alone the promised dollars... All they got is war and dark years and the Solidarity movement gets all the credits while Poland wasn't even in the jUSSR. The entire war was meant to destroy the healthy in mind and body male population that had integrity. The entire period between 1982, when the systematic agitations and looting in Artsakh began, up to 1989 was a trap to begin with, which in turn opened the door to a war that would decimate our best and brightest potential cadre of leaders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagopn Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 (edited) By the way, one of Ter Petrosyan's treaseonous government's first deeds was to gut and disassemble a factory that did make weapons parts. Go figure. Edited January 27, 2014 by hagopn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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