Presidential Elections 2008 In Armenia March 1

[elle]

В Армении подавлена очередная на постсоветском пространстве попытка "цветной", на этот раз "абрикосовой" революции. Манипуляторы с Запада попытались изменить пророссийский курс страны, но неудачно. Ситуацию комментирует «Правде.Ру» заместитель директора

 

Института стран СНГ Владимир Жарихин.

 

В Армении подавлена очередная на постсоветском пространстве попытка "цветной", на этот раз "абрикосовой" революции. Казалось, что по сравнению с другими странами СНГ там царит "тишь да гладь да Божья благодать". Однако Армения доказала, что и она представляет для заокеанских манипуляторов лакомый кусок.

 

Стоит заметить, что события в Ереване стали самыми кровавыми из всех "горшочных" революций на бывшем постсоветском пространстве Конечно, если не считать событий в узбекском Андижане. Напомним, что армянские беспорядки стоили жизни по одним данным восьми, по другим – девяти человек.

 

Что же все-таки произошло в еще недавно тихой Армении? Ничего особого, если не считать выборов, прошедших 19 февраля. По классической схеме "цветочных революций" одна из сторон посчитала себя дико обиженной. Она не признала их итоги, вывела народ на улицы и организовала кровавое побоище.

 

"События в Армении – это действительно попытка "цветочной революции". И её двигателем выступает определенная часть жителей Еревана, которая хочет получить власть. Правда, в армянском варианте она заметно отличается от украинского, поскольку здесь другая степень решимости власти защитить себя", - прокомментировал «Правде.Ру» ситуацию заместитель директора Института стран СНГ Владимир Жарихин.

 

"Обиженными" стали сторонники первого армянского президента Левон Тер-Петросяна, которые не признали победу Сержа Саркисяна. При этом даже самые демократичные из демократичных европейских наблюдателей никаких нарушений не обнаружили. По официальным данным ЦИК Армении, Серж Сарксиян набрал 52,82% голосов, тогда как "победитель" Левон Тер-Петросян – всего лишь 21,5% голосов.

 

Тем не менее, сторонники последнего вышли на бессрочный митинг протеста и почти две недели не подчинялись требованию властей прекратить массовую акцию, мешавшую движению транспорта и нарушавшую общественный порядок в столице.Утром 1 марта полиция разогнала несанкционированный митинг, парализовавший жизнь столицы Армении, однако толпа переместилась к ереванской мэрии и перешла к более активным действиям.

 

Истинное лицо некоторых манифестантов было продемонстрировано в ходе грабежей универмагов и государственных зданий. Сторонники армянской «демократии» не брезговали ничем, очистив полки ближайшего супермаркета от всего, что только можно было унести, включая стиральные порошки. Пострадал даже Музей истории Еревана. Этого "миролюбивым демонстрантам", активно применявшим "коктейль Молотова", показалось мало и они распространили гнев демократии на десятки государственных и частных машин. Разумеется, лидеры очередной "горшочной революции" поспешили заявить о том, что их "подставили" и что их очернили провокаторы, подосланные властью.

 

По словам "цветочников", они-де были настроены на мирный диалог с властью, а коварный Серж Саркисян растоптал очередной "росток демократии" кованым полицейским сапогом. Каких только причитаний не пришлось услышать по этому поводу! Что якобы озверевшая полиция избивала мирных демонстрантов, которых в довершение всего расстреливал обезумевший от крови армейский спецназ.

 

Правда, есть тут одна нестыковка: почему среди пострадавших такое огромное число представителей силовых структур? Стоит заметить, что свое веское слово военные сказали лишь тогда, когда "мирные демонстранты" стали расстреливать полицейских, чьим вооружением были лишь дубинки и щиты. Взять хотя бы самих пострадавших. Общее число раненых исчисляется в 131 человека, из которых больше половины, а именно 72 – военнослужащие и полицейские.

 

Вероятно, лидеры оппозиции, применив силу, уже рассчитывали на триумф, не допуская мысли о том, что им дадут отпор. Однако власть показала зубы, объявила чрезвычайное положение и силой оружия подавила мятеж. Когда бесновавшуюся толпу удалось рассеять, в руки армянских правоохранителей попали завидные трофеи. Среди них не только бутылки с зажигательной смесью, дубинки и железные прутья, но и огнестрельное оружие, боеприпасы, гранаты, и также шприцы и психотропные препараты.

 

Ясно одно: пример Армении доказывает тот очевидный факт, что уступает нажиму лишь слабая и неуверенная в себе власть, неспособная опереться на общественную поддержку.

 

Однако дыма без огня всё же, как известно не бывает. Согласно мнению многих оппозиционеров, им отнюдь не импонирует первый демократичный президент. Просто нынешние власти не смогли до конца решить накопившиеся проблемы страны, среди которых коррупция, клановость и др., чем и воспользовались заокеанские манипуляторы. Конечно, затаившаяся марионеточная оппозиция, подобно змее, продолжает шипеть, стращая власть новыми погромами и утверждая, что за ее спиной "народ". Разумеется, что на деньги американского Госдепа можно было собрать куда большую толпу и привести к ереванской мэрии половину Закавказья.

 

Между тем, несмотря на признание легитимности выборов, Запад резко осудил применение силы в Ереване. И недаром протестующие, встретив жесткий отпор и услышав голос "поддержки", стали жаться к посольству Франции, видимо, рассчитывая на поддержку не испытывающего к России теплых чувств Николя Саркози.

 

Разумеется, не осталось в стороне и «самое демократичное в мире государство». Помощник госсекретаря США Мэтью Брайза лично звонил премьер-министру Армении Сержу Саркисяну, убеждая его обойтись "без применения насилия". Иными словами, это звучало как предложение сдаться за умеренную цену. Правда, как бы в подобном случае действовали американские власти, столкнувшись с чем-либо подобным, остается только догадываться, вспоминая сожженные напалмом негритянские кварталы во время восстаний "черных пантер" полувековой давности.

 

И все же, казалось бы, откуда такая трогательная забота о погромщиках и похитителей стирального порошка? Конечно, понять возмущение западников можно: деньги, брошенные на развитие демократии и потопление единственного лояльного в Закавказье режима в прямом смысле "ушли на ветер".

 

Что же потребовалось Западу в Армении? Да ничего особого, если не брать во внимание то, что это единственная страна в Закавказье, до сих пор придерживавшаяся пророссийского курса, наглядным свидетельством чему служит наличие на ее территории наших военных баз в непосредственной близости от "американских интересов", представленных, например, трубопроводом Баку-Джейхан.

 

А раз так, то неудивительно, что Запад пытается одним ударом избавить себя от такого соседства. Ведь в случае прихода на место Кочаряна и сменившего его Саркисяна прозападного президента вопрос этот решится сам собой. А раз так, то Москва должна оказать Еревану поддержку, чтобы сохранить выгодный нам режим.

 

Сергей Балмасов

 

 

 

 

 

[elle]

I've been following the Russian state owned channel 1 for the past few days and there's still no word of the incident in Armenia. I already said that there was nothing shown regarding this situation ever since it took palce in Armenia and two days have already passed, still no news about it. I'm proud of the Russians for not showing our dirty laundry on a national TV and that they made sure not to show things that might present Armenians negatively.

 

The above article is from www.pravda.ru and for the past few days, they have not really covered it too...just had a two paragraph coverage on it....and this article was posted only on the third day. I think that it's a good sign on their part.

 

I remember how the Russians used to cover the events in Georgia (the beatings of the civilians) on national TV during most of the news programs. They didn't seem to care about presenting Georgians negatively by showing everything that was happening in that country. Not even close when it came to Armenia few days ago.

Edited March 4, 2008 by elle

[Aaron]

Sulamita,

 

yes LTP has written a history book called "hayere yev khachagirnere" about the relations between crusaders and Cilicia Armenians 12th to 14th century. It's a first volume, I believe a second is coming. It's a serious scientific work, I have read two chapters (the book is thick and I didn't have much time to go all over) and the topic is interesting, although appropriate for a specific and connoisseur public, those who are really into history and care about all details. No doubt that he's an intelligent and serious academic! Nobody contests that.

 

Spoke to my family in Erevan yesterday. Things are ironic and absurd: I was mostly against LTP ... but just learned that my brother was at the demonstrations Saturday night ... and my dad was among the anti LTP demonstrators in 1996 ... and now he's kind of sympathetic to LTP because of the government use of force against the population ... one family with the full spectrum of political inclinations one might say! Our people have gone crazy!

 

A.

 

[Aray]

I have heard short comments form pro-Armenian Soloviev on NTV. Also, there was a short coverage of the violence on TVCI.

I've been following the Russian state owned channel 1 for the past few days and there's still no word of the incident in Armenia. I already said that there was nothing shown regarding this situation ever since it took palce in Armenia and two days have already passed, still no news about it. I'm proud of the Russians for not showing our dirty laundry on a national TV and that they made sure not to show things that might present Armenians negatively.

 

Here is good article from Pravda. I would suggest everybody to read.

Armenia Assaulted by Orange Agents

 

Perhaps the empire just doesn’t get it. They need to re-examine their despicable, foolish and devious scheme to bring an orange scenario to an embattled, besieged Armenia. Under blockade by neighboring Turkey and Azerbaijan, Armenia continues to prosper despite some instances of corruption and economic isolation. Armenia is not fertile ground for any sort of orange scenario. Armenians are generally politically astute, pro-Russian and not easily swayed. They are also acutely aware of the fact that there is no future for them as vassals of the empire.

 

Armenian history is said to be 12,000 years old, and Mt. Ararat is the historic scene where Noah‘s Ark is said to have rested, a revered and treasured Armenian landmark. An archeologist’s dream come true, Armenia is a land of quaint churches and elaborately and meticulously carved khatchkars (Orthodox crosses). Constant and reliable, the centuries old friendship and alliance with Russia is unshakable. Most Armenians are aware of the fact that there probably would be no Armenia if not for Russia. No plots or schemes by the empire are going to change that reality.

 

The empire also wins no friends among Armenians for its consistent policy of Genocide denial. These policies go beyond the geo-political considerations given as an excuse, such as the US base in occupied Western Armenia, under control of Turkey and their alliances with Armenian enemies Turkey, Israel and Azerbaijan. And then there are the oil pipelines…constructed to bypass Armenia, a country in a strategic position between east and west, a crossroads as it were. As a result of the Armenian Genocide of 1894-1923, Armenians lost most of their homeland and over 1.5 million Armenians were murdered in the most horrendous and brutal fashion imaginable and unimaginable. To this day, no Nuremberg trials, no compensation or apology have occurred. Therefore, the memory of this tragedy in an ongoing issue of importance to Armenians.

 

In Armenia, Levon Ter-Petrosian is generally despised for his corrupt ruinous policies while President of Armenia. He is also despised for proffering the notion that the recently liberated Armenian land of Artsakh (Nagorno-Artsax) should be returned to Azerbaijan. Artsakh is now an independent country. The US regime is financially backing Ter-Petrosian and causing trouble in the background. Ter-Petrosian had the strange idea that he had a snowball’s chance in hell of winning an election to be President. Fat chance. Now he sends agitators to do his bidding, a la Soros funding, all the best agitators money and the empire can buy.

 

On Public Armenian Television, Armenian Parliament Speaker Tigran Torosian told the following of his knowledge of events: “These people decided who the winner is five minutes after the election. This is their characteristic feature. I learned about my alleged resignation from journalists. Levon Ter-Petrosian and his team-mates have exhausted the sources of lies which exceed all possible borders,” the speaker said. “They spread lies about all and offense all those who are not with them. They are filled with hatred and revenge,” he said. "OK, let's say all the grenades, pistols and automatics were planted by the regime, what do you have to say about all those hooligans with rods and sticks, beating the police, throwing bricks and stones, burning cars including busses and an ambulance, looting shops and supermarkets?"

 

According to various local reports, 8 persons were killed in orange demonstrations as the Army was called in to restore the peace. They also report that Opera and Republican Square are swarming with army troops and military police armed to the teeth with AK-47s, belt-fed battle rifles and there are dozens of light tanks in both locations. In addition to that, there are troops scattered in posts all over the city and on all the roads into the city. One hundred and thirty-one persons were reported injured in the March 1 disturbances. An on the scene observer sent this report: "Hi, this morning I walked from the Opera House until Mashtoz Underpass. Everything was just fine. Police closed the underpass toward city hall and near the French embassy where they made a mess. My friend 8:30 at night went everywhere with the exception of closed areas and found calm...all shops are open and traffic is normal, 8 people got killed and about 30 people got arrested for looting, all young guys."

 

Interior troops and police officers suffered bullet wounds and injuries in the March 1 clashes with rioters in Yerevan. On his visit to the hospital, President Kocharian was accompanied by police chief Hayk Harutyunian and other officials. Kocharian went from one hospital ward to another and spoke to officers and servicemen. Hospital chief, Arthur Petrosian, said they admitted 33 wounded officers and servicemen on March 1 until 8.30 pm and 27 others after 9 pm. He said 11 received bullet wounds, eight were hospitalized with heavy symptoms of gas poisoning, 2 received knife wounds. Seven servicemen went to their quarters after receiving first aid and 11 others were operated on. The chief of the hospital said their condition is satisfactory now.

 

At the end of February, prior to the breakout of violence, a vehicle was apprehended trying to enter the country loaded with weapons and ammunition. On March 1, 2008, Armenia’s President Robert Kocharian declared a 2-day state of emergency in compliance of article 55.6 of the RA (Republic of Armenia) Constitution (threat to state and population security). Fortunately, anti-terrorist, anti-orange scenario joint exercises were held by Armenia and Russia in anticipation of such occurrences. Meanwhile the empire is mouthing duplicitous, hypocritical words about “excessive use of force.”

 

Secretary General of the Council of Europe, Terry Davis said, “The state of emergency suspends the application of several rights and freedoms protected by the European Convention on Human Rights. Under Article 15 of the Convention the Armenian Government must inform me of the measures which it has taken and the reasons therefore. I expect that they will do so without any delay,” the Council of Europe press division reports. The recent presidential elections in Armenia saw Serzh Sarksyan, Kocharian’s number two man, elected as President of Armenia. The voting result was unmistakable: Serzh Sarkisyan - 862,369 (52,82%) votes, Levon Ter-Petrosian – 351,222 (21,5%).votes.

 

The February 19th presidential elections were not only characterized as `free and fair' by the CIS observers, but also received the positive assessments of the Western observation missions. The observation mission of the OSCE Parliamentary Assembly, which stands out in terms of its strict and meticulous attitude towards the electoral processes held in former USSR territories, clearly recorded that, `The presidential elections held in Armenia on February 19 were mostly in line with the commitments to the OSCE and the Council of Europe.” But this didn’t satisfy the orange agitators. Kocharian, throughout his term as President, has had a warm, brotherly relationship with his counterpart in Russia, Vladimir Putin. Like the outgoing president, Robert Kocharian, Mr. Sarkisyan is from Artsakh (Nagorno-Artsax). Both men were commanders in the war.

 

The newly elected Armenian President released this message to the people:

 

“Dear Compatriots, In consequence of the recent events, our people suffered great losses. There are casualties among policemen, who performed their duty, and among protesters, who fell under the influence of a group of people. Hundreds of civilians suffered from illegal acts of the radical opposition. Leaders of the co-called ‘movement’ made targets of their own supporters and policemen to suit their own ends. The initiators of disorders must answer for their deeds before the law, history and generations. With pain, I conceive that our compatriots fell victim to blind hatred of some individuals. I share your grief and wish you courage and strength to overcome this tragedy…”

 

As the cleanup crew mitigates the after effects of the recent lawlessness, one can only hope that the street sweepers will also sweep away the trash known as orange agent provocateurs and leave this proud, struggling nation in peace.

 

Link to article

Edited March 4, 2008 by Aray

[Johannes]

Day.Az » Общество » Погибло два солдата азербайджанской армии, один ранен - ОБНОВЛЕНО

Сегодня с утра Вооруженные силы Армении подвергли огню из различных видов оружия с территории оккупированного села Чилебюрт Тертерского района расположенные напротив позиции Вооруженных сил Азербайджана.

Как сообщает карабахское бюро АПА, в результате нарушения армянами режима прекращения огня стали шехидами два азербайджанских солдата – призванный на военную службу военным комиссариатом Закатальского района Немет Гусаев и призванный на военную службу военным комиссариатом Шекинского района Юсиф Гасымов.

 

В настоящее время перестрелка продолжается. Вооруженные силы Армении нарушили режим прекращения огня и в направлении оккупированного села Талыш Тертерского района.

 

Сообщается, что в результате обстрела позиций национальной армии близ села Тапгарагоюнлу Геранбойского района ранение получил еще один военнослужащий Вооруженных сил Азербайджана.

http://day.az/news/society/110358.html

Who can translate the above?

 

[AK-47]

While part of our population riots and the government deploys our army in the streets, this is what the baboons have been dangerously up to:

 

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Armenian POV: http://www.panarmenian.net/news/eng/?nid=25215

 

Azeri armed forces attempted to seize Armenian positions

 

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ Azerbaijan made an attempt to make use of the domestic tension in Armenia to provoke a ceasefire violation in Mardakert direction, RA Foreign Minister Vartan Oskanian told reporters in Yerevan.

 

“The Azeri units tried to advance through the Armenian territory and seize a post but were rebuffed. Several Armenian servicemen were injured, 2 Azeri soldiers were killed. The skirmish is going on but not so violently. We have already sent a notice to OSCE CiO’s special representative Andrzej Kasprzyk and hope that the situation will settle down soon,” he said.

 

“If someone in Baku hopes to gain psychological dividends, thinking that we are too concentrated on our internal affairs, he is deeply mistaken,” the Armenian Minister emphasized.

 

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Baboonjan POV: http://en.apa.az/news.php?id=45094

 

Armenian ceasefire violation kills two soldiers of Azerbaijani army, wounds civilians – UPDATED 2

 

 

Terter. Teymur Guliyev-APA. Armenian armed forces have been firing on the opposite positions of Azerbaijani army from the occupied Chilabirt village of Terter region since morning.

 

APA’s Artsax bureau reports that two soldiers of Azerbaijani army died as a result of ceasefire violation. They are Nemet Gusayev, who had been drafted from Zagatala region enlistment office, and Yusif Gasimov, who had been drafted from Shaki region enlistment office. The shootout continues.

Armenian armed forces have also violated ceasefire in the occupied Talish village of Terter region. Armenians fired on Tapgaragoyunlu village of Goranboy region, two residents of the village – Aliyev Rahman Suleyman and Heydarov Mirala, Knyaz were wounded. Aliyev wounded in his arm was taken to the central hospital, Heydarov was offered medical aid and released.

Spokesman for Azerbaijani Defense Ministry Eldar Sabiroglu told APA the shootout continued. He said the detailed information would be given later.

[AK-47]

Azerbaijan 'ready' to liberate Nagorno-Artsax

 

LADA YEVGRASHINA

 

Reuters

 

March 4, 2008 at 10:23 AM EST

 

BAKU — Azerbaijan's president said on Tuesday his country was ready to take back breakaway Nagorno-Artsax by force if need be and was buying military equipment and arms in preparation.

 

President Ilham Aliyev linked his comments to the newly-declared independence in Kosovo which he said had emboldened ethnic Armenian separatists in Nagorno-Artsax.

 

Azerbaijan's parliament later voted to withdraw a 33-strong Azeri peacekeeping team that has been serving in Kosovo under NATO command since 1999.

 

Former Soviet Azerbaijan has been trying to restore control over Nagorno-Artsax, where ethnic Armenian separatists threw off Azeri rule in the 1990s in a war that killed about 35,000 people.

 

"We have been buying military machinery, airplanes and ammunition to be ready to liberate the occupied territories, and we are ready to do this," Mr. Aliyev was quoted as saying.

 

He added the Nagorno-Artsax conflict with neighbouring Armenia could be resolved only on the principle of Azerbaijan's territorial integrity.

 

The fragile peace between Azerbaijan and Armenia has held thanks to a ceasefire announced in May 1994 when large-scale hostilities ended.

 

But as Mr. Aliyev spoke, local television channels reported that two Azeri soldiers died in an exchange of fire near Nagorno-Artsax's border earlier on Tuesday. Armenia's defence ministry confirmed the deaths and accused the Azeri side of violating the ceasefire.

 

After mainly ethnic Albanian Kosovo declared independence from Serbia last month, Nagorno-Artsax said this would help its own drive for international recognition.

 

The United States, major European Union powers and Azerbaijan's close ally Turkey have all backed Kosovo's independence, but Baku views it as illegal.

 

"You see how norms of international law are violated in the world," Mr. Aliyev was quoted as saying.

 

"And this has a negative impact on the settlement of the (Nagorno-Artsax) conflict. The force factor remains decisive, and we will achieve this (Nagorno-Artsax's reintegration)."

 

An Azeri official acknowledged that the pull-out of peacekeepers had clear political overtones due "to the changed political situation" after Kosovo's independence.

 

Azerbaijan's economy, propelled by windfall revenues from booming Caspian Sea oil exports, has shown double-digit growth, and Mr. Aliyev said the nation's $1.3 billion military budget was set to expand further in the years to come.

 

Mr. Aliyev said he believed Azerbaijan's growing military could nudge talks towards a diplomatic breakthrough. "A time will come when the Armenians will agree to that (settlement)," he said.

 

Source: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...ernational/home

[AK-47]

Shootout continues on Armenia-Azerbaijan contact-line since morning, death toll rises

 

[ 04 Mar 2008 19:48 ]

 

Terter. Teymur Guliyev-APA. Two more Azerbaijanis died as a result of Armenian armed forces’ attack on Azerbaijani Terter region.APA’s Artsax bureau reports that one of them is Bahruz Ismayilov, who had been drafted from Shaki region enlistment office.

 

The other has not been identified yet. The death toll among Azerbaijanis soldiers reached four. It is reported that a lot of Armenians died and heavy equipment and wounded soldiers were left on the contact-line. The shootout continues.

Spokesman for Azerbaijani Defense Ministry Eldar Sabiroglu told APA the shootout continued. He said the detailed information would be given later.

Armenian armed forces have been firing on Azerbaijan’s posts since 11.00. Four servicemen of Azerbaijani army died, residents of Tapgaragoyunlu village of Goranboy region Aliyev Rahman Suleyman and Heydarov Mirala, Knyaz were wounded.

Azerbaijani servicemen Nemet Gusayev and Yusif Gasimov were killed in the battle with the enemy this morning.

[Johannes]

Shootout continues on Armenia-Azerbaijan contact-line since morning

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Congratulations to LTP

[Aray]

Congratulations to LTP

 

Azeri turks say thank you LTP. Unfortunately there are many low live Armenians on same boat with them.

[Yervant1]

Azeri turks say thank you LTP. Unfortunately there are many low live Armenians on same boat with them.

Aray in my humble opinion Johannes was being sarcastic, second it's not nice to call other Armenians "low live" in a public forum BTW it's "Low Life".

Why is it so difficult to express ourselves without the foul language? This question is for all of us.

[Nané]

Shootout continues on Armenia-Azerbaijan contact-line since morning, death toll rises

 

Unfortunately, this was bound to happen. I was so hoping things would be stabilized in Armenia before the Azeris used the chance ... but I guess it's too late. We can only hope and pray that it does not escalate

 

[Anoushik]

My father's worst nightmare came true. He was so right. He was the only one among his friends and colleagues who kept saying that that's what the Turks and Azeri's are waiting for, for Armenia to get destabilized. For ten years everything was all right. For ten years. And then, in a matter of months one person manages to get the whole country completely messed up. Don't anyone tell me that LTP was patriotic and wanted what's best for Armenians. I don't know what his motivations were, but he was far from wanting what's best for his country.

[vava]

My father's worst nightmare came true. He was so right. He was the only one among his friends and colleagues who kept saying that that's what the Turks and Azeri's are waiting for, for Armenia to get destabilized. For ten years everything was all right. For ten years. And then, in a matter of months one person manages to get the whole country completely messed up. Don't anyone tell me that LTP was patriotic and wanted what's best for Armenians. I don't know what his motivations were, but he was far from wanting what's best for his country.

 

While this is certainly terrible news, I suspect that what is happening can hardly be the work of one sole person - there are numerous agents provacateur at work here, and we're only beginning to see the consequences. Just terrible.

 

[Yervant1]

While this is certainly terrible news, I suspect that what is happening can hardly be the work of one sole person - there are numerous agents provacateur at work here, and we're only beginning to see the consequences. Just terrible.

Vava Jan this is why I posted this post on Feb. 26th!

Sireli Hayrenakitsner bolor Ashkharhi, aysor meng bedg uning handart q@lkhi yev varvelakerpi. Dursi otar ujer@ anhandart k@spasen mer irar antsnil@ yev t@karanal@, hatjis k@ khendrem tser boloren vor herun m@tatseg yev zirar viravorelu mi nayig.

 

[Johannes]

Vava Jan this is why I posted this post on Feb. 26th!

 

Sireli Yervant, nbadaknin kesh e, nayir ays threadi vernakire

Presidential Elections 2008 In Armenia, What could be worse than this?

Aysinken ayn oren vor sksadz e ays theman, voroshadz en amen inch vad bidi ella.

[Aratta-Kingdom]

The azeis have seen only one side of the coin. The end of Aliyev dynasty is close. If they wanna fight, they'll get to fight. This time the borders of Armeian will streach to Kure river. Unfortunately innocent people will die again, but to the turks and to the people who support them they are just numbers.

[elle]

http://day.az/news/society/110358.html

Who can translate the above?

 

 

OMG! I can't believe they're lying like this!

The Azeri side is claiming that it was the Armenians who started the assult! WTF!

They're saying exactly the opposite of what happened. They're saying that Armenians shot and killed 2 Azeri soldiers after the Armenian started the whole thing themseleves and ignored the cease-fire agreement! basatrds!

This is how they spread their hatered among their masses...with lies!

[Nazarian]

Yeah, while the RK-SS duo is busy killing and suppressing Armenians in Armenia, of course the Azeris are going to try to take advantage of the situation. I just hope that not a lot of soldiers from Karabagh have been brought in Yerevan and there are enough left to defend Artsakh.

 

But one cannot discount the possibility that RK-SS did this, too, in order to distract the attention from their crime.

 

Who knows?

[Yervant1]

Yeah, while the RK-SS duo is busy killing and suppressing Armenians in Armenia, of course the Azeris are going to try to take advantage of the situation. I just hope that not a lot of soldiers from Karabagh have been brought in Yerevan and there are enough left to defend Artsakh.

 

But one cannot discount the possibility that RK-SS did this, too, in order to distract the attention from their crime.

 

Who knows?

Who knows may be they also told Aliyev to say all that war rhetoric a day ago.

My friend today is not a good day for dividing the nation no matter what.

Edited March 4, 2008 by Yervant1

[Nazarian]

Nah, you can always count on Aliyev to sing his old tunes. All he needs is a reason to threaten Armenia.

[Aratta-Kingdom]

Yeah, while the RK-SS duo is busy killing and suppressing Armenians in Armenia, of course the Azeris are going to try to take advantage of the situation. I just hope that not a lot of soldiers from Karabagh have been brought in Yerevan and there are enough left to defend Artsakh.

 

But one cannot discount the possibility that RK-SS did this, too, in order to distract the attention from their crime.

 

Who knows?

 

just read what the azeri media reports

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ilham Aliyev: "Azerbaijan will secure its territorial integrity at any cost"

 

http://en.apa.az/news.php?id=45090

 

 

 

 

Azerbaijan to Reconsider Peaceful Settlement of Nagorno-Artsax Conflict if Contradiction Processes to go on in Armenia – Azerbaijani Parliament First Vice Speaker

 

 

http://news.trend.az/index.shtml?show=news...536&lang=EN

 

 

[elle]

Генпрокуратура Армении отправила за решетку четырех депутатов

 

Генеральный прокурор Армении Агван Овсепян выступил в Национальном собрании республики с ходатайством о привлечении к суду в качестве обвиняемых и аресте депутатов Мясника Малхасяна, Сасуна Микаэляна, Акопа Акопяна и Хачатура Сукиасяна (GRZO!!). Парламентарии удовлетворили ходатайство. Как отметил генпрокурор, "не смирившись с итогами состоявшихся 19 февраля выборов, Левон Тер-Петросян и его сторонники организовали широкомасштабные мероприятия по формированию недоверия среди широких масс населения к итогам выборов, ставя их под сомнение, вызывая общественное недовольство". На этих митингах звучали выступления, призывающие к гражданскому неповиновению, нарушению работы государственных органов, частных предприятий и учреждений, неповиновению правоохранительным органам, призывающих к прекращению несанкционированных мероприятий.

 

Прокурор представил депутатам сведения, свидетельствующие о подготовке сторонниками Тер-Петросяна массовых беспорядков. Он рассказал о событиях, начиная с раннего утра 1 марта до ночи 2 марта, когда толпа, руководимая соратниками Тер-Петросяна, вооруженная огнестрельным оружием, дубинками, металлическими прутьями, тарой с зажигательной жидкостью, обломками плиток с тротуаров, совершила нападение на полицейских. Тогда свыше 100 полицейских получили травмы различной степени тяжести, погиб командир взвода Гамлет Тадевосян. Толпа участников массовых беспорядков разбила стекла мэрии и близлежащих построек. В ночь на 2 марта были сожжены 63 государственных и частных автотранспортных средства, в том числе машина "скорой помощи". В результате массовых беспорядков погибли восемь человек, по меньшей мере 165, в том числе более сотни полицейских и военных, получили телесные повреждения.

 

По мнению генпрокурора, полученных доказательств достаточно для обоснования активного участия указанных депутатов в незаконных действиях, подстрекательства к насилию, "а также различного содействия, в том числе вербовке атакующих и их вооружения". "Это дает достаточно оснований для привлечения их в качестве обвиняемых по уголовному делу, предъявления им обвинение в организации массовых беспорядков в период с 20 по 2 марта, направленных на насильственный захват государственной власти", - констатировал чиновник. По его словам, в уголовном деле достаточно материалов, обосновывающих необходимость ареста указанных депутатов, в том числе указывающих на то, что, оставаясь на свободе, они могут укрыться от следствия, препятствовать проведению расследования, передает "Интерфакс".

 

 

 

[Aaron]

Генпрокуратура Армении отправила за решетку четырех депутатов

 

Генеральный прокурор Армении Агван Овсепян выступил в Национальном собрании республики с ходатайством о привлечении к суду в качестве обвиняемых и аресте депутатов Мясника Малхасяна, Сасуна Микаэляна, Акопа Акопяна и Хачатура Сукиасяна (GRZO!!). Парламентарии удовлетворили ходатайство. Как отметил генпрокурор, "не смирившись с итогами состоявшихся 19 февраля выборов, Левон Тер-Петросян и его сторонники организовали широкомасштабные мероприятия по формированию недоверия среди широких масс населения к итогам выборов, ставя их под сомнение, вызывая общественное недовольство". На этих митингах звучали выступления, призывающие к гражданскому неповиновению, нарушению работы государственных органов, частных предприятий и учреждений, неповиновению правоохранительным органам, призывающих к прекращению несанкционированных мероприятий.

 

Прокурор представил депутатам сведения, свидетельствующие о подготовке сторонниками Тер-Петросяна массовых беспорядков. Он рассказал о событиях, начиная с раннего утра 1 марта до ночи 2 марта, когда толпа, руководимая соратниками Тер-Петросяна, вооруженная огнестрельным оружием, дубинками, металлическими прутьями, тарой с зажигательной жидкостью, обломками плиток с тротуаров, совершила нападение на полицейских. Тогда свыше 100 полицейских получили травмы различной степени тяжести, погиб командир взвода Гамлет Тадевосян. Толпа участников массовых беспорядков разбила стекла мэрии и близлежащих построек. В ночь на 2 марта были сожжены 63 государственных и частных автотранспортных средства, в том числе машина "скорой помощи". В результате массовых беспорядков погибли восемь человек, по меньшей мере 165, в том числе более сотни полицейских и военных, получили телесные повреждения.

 

По мнению генпрокурора, полученных доказательств достаточно для обоснования активного участия указанных депутатов в незаконных действиях, подстрекательства к насилию, "а также различного содействия, в том числе вербовке атакующих и их вооружения". "Это дает достаточно оснований для привлечения их в качестве обвиняемых по уголовному делу, предъявления им обвинение в организации массовых беспорядков в период с 20 по 2 марта, направленных на насильственный захват государственной власти", - констатировал чиновник. По его словам, в уголовном деле достаточно материалов, обосновывающих необходимость ареста указанных депутатов, в том числе указывающих на то, что, оставаясь на свободе, они могут укрыться от следствия, препятствовать проведению расследования, передает "Интерфакс".

 

Translate the main point please, I don't know russian,

A.

[Yervant1]

Translate the main point please, I don't know russian,

A.

 

Use this link to translate it.

http://www.google.com/language_tools