Arpa Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 (edited) Yes I did find this at that site that Hաrut aired. It saves me an agonizing one finger typing. ԾԻՐԱՆԻ ԾԱՌ Կոմիտաս Ծիրանի' ծառ, բար մի' տա, վա՜յ, Ճըգղերդ իրար մի' տա, վա՜յ. Ամեն մեջըդ ման գալիս Ցավերըս իրար մի' տա: Հա', տըվե'ք, ե'տ տըվեք, սա'րեր, - հովն ընկավ, Սըրտիս խընդում ծովն ընկավ. Գընա, էլ ետ չըգա էս տարվա տարին, - Սև դարդն իմ վըզովն ընկավ: Հո՜վ, հո՜վ, հովն ընկավ, - Սըրտիս խընդում ծովն ընկավ: Մեռա բաղում բանելեն, Մի կողմեն ջուր անելեն. Ծառերին թուփ չըմընաց Դարդիս դարման տանելեն: Սև ամպը գըցել ա հով, Մութը տըվել ա իմ քով. Տեսնում եք ինձ պատել ա Էս անիրավ արյուն ծով: Նըստած տեղիս քար չունիմ, Էրված սըրտիս ճար չունիմ. Ա՜յ անօրեն, փուչ աշխարհ, - Բաղ ունիմ ու բար չունիմ: Tsirani Tsar, Ծիրանի Ծառ A Lamentation, Ողպերգ? As I intimated in another thread, I had never looked so closely at this masterpiece by Komitas. We don’t know who wrote the lyrics. It may as well be Komitas himself. The song has such a majestic and operatic tone that I had never given a thought that it may be a lamentation. I always took it to reflect the majesty and upbeatedness of its tune. I had never stopped and contemplated the meaning of its opening line. “Tsirani Tsar, bar mi ta, va~y… I had always taken for granted that the song was an ode to the Apricot Tree and a glorification, I had never given a thought about what that word meant. When I did, I just dismissed it to be a variation on “bar/բառ/word”, or “par/պարdance”, until I decided to look it up. It turns out that the word means “fruit/harvest”. “Fruit, not so much to mean an individual fruit as in apple, orange or tsiran, but “fruit” in genera to mean as in “the fruit of our work/endeavour”, “մեր աշխատանքի պտուղը”. No wonder I could not recognize the word even if we use it every day, albeit in another form. It turns out that the “bar/բար” is the original form of “ber/բեր”. We may not yet recognize it until we consider it in its plural form “berq/բերք”. Now we can see what it means, “harvest/fruit”. Based on this assumption, the opening lines of the song would be; “Tsirani Tsar, do not produce fruit/harvest, Do not strike your branches together” In other words- “We are in mourning, so should you. We are dying, so should you”. And as the song progresses, more lamentations and mourning. Yet, this song that is sung as often as Hayastan Erkir Drakhtavayr, and Krunk, was not meant to be a celebration of our wonderful and delicious national fruit but a dirge and a eulogy to our demise. “Hov, hov, hovn @nkav Srtis khndum@ tsov @nkav..” “Breeze(cool/), breeze, breeze/frost) came down The joy of my heart sank down in the sea…” Komitas had felt our pain long before that pain put an end to his spirit and intellect, and eventually his life. So. Tsirani Tsar, bar mi ta, vay~?? If only Komitas could see how our tsirani tsars are laden with golden bumper crop/bar today!!! Edited September 12, 2005 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted June 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 (edited) Note: Can someone please replace the below URL with a direct link to particular article, or the article itself with pictures? Thank you. ==== http://www.armenianow.com/?action=viewArti...193&lng=eng (June 27, 2008) Golden Season: Banner year for Armenia’s national fruit By Gayane Mkrtchyan ArmeniaNow reporter Published: 27 June, 2008 The apricot orchard of 56-year-old Edik Vardanyan is bursting with the abundance of its crop. The fine fruits of nature’s tiny tasty suns play a hide-and-seek game as they skillfully escape human hands reaching out for them. But it’s all the same – in the end Edik manages to pick a bucketful of apricots and get down from the tree. “I had planted 130 trees of this orchard with my own hands 17 years ago. I sit down and talk with each of these trees separately. This is where I find my peace,” says Edik, adding proudly: “[A few times] I happened to gather up to 15 kilograms of apricot from one branch.” He remembers the banner years for the orchard – 2000, 2005 and 2008. That is, in 14 years the orchard yielded good crops only three times. Every time the overall income from the orchard made $3,000, but this year it will reach $5,000. Edik is from the village of Jrashen, which is in Armenia’s Ararat province. The village’s apricot orchards stretch by the hectare. It’s harvest time now. Many of the villagers have called their relatives and friends to help them. Many have hired labor. Zaven Vardanyan, 54, says that the tastiest apricot in Armenia grows in their village and that he will get three tons of apricot from his half a hectare orchard. Instead of asking questions, he advises that we should help him. We get down to work, but he immediately complains: “No, that won’t do. This is not how you pick an apricot. First you turn it and then carefully pick it so that it won’t give a crack. It is better you do your work.” Hired workers are paid 3,000 drams (about $10) and one bucket of apricots a day for their work. Groups of people arranging apricots into cases can be seen in the fields. They are called “arrangers”. Melanya Arosyan, 44, is one of them. In a professional manner she arranges the fruits into cases for 4,000 drams (abut $13) a day. “We put in only shalakh apricot. Exporters do not agree to export another sort of apricot, they say it cannot last. One apricot-tree can produce 300 kilograms of fruit, maximum 500 kilograms,” she says. Exporters purchase apricot from villagers paying 250 drams (about 80 cents) per kilo. Apricot at Yerevan markets today is 50-350 drams, depending on quality. Cases with gathered apricots are put on a big truck parked in the center of the village. Businessman Arayik Muradyan, who has been engaged in the export of apricot and other fruits for ten years, is overseeing the process. “They know well the value of Armenian apricot on the Russian market. The first refrigerator truck [laden with apricot] will leave Armenia soon. If no obstacles emerge on the way, our apricot will reach Moscow already in ten days. There it sells for 60-70 rubles a kilo, or about $3,” he says. From Armenia trucks go to the port of Poti in Georgia. From there to Novorosiysk by the Black Sea, and then directly to Moscow and St. Petersburg in Russia. A ferry transports 50-60 trucks at a time, with each truck carrying 18 tons of apricot. “This year we will perhaps manage to make four such transportations,” says Arayik. Villagers are satisfied that there are exporters, otherwise they would have failed to sell such huge harvest. Arayik says that he provides 150 temporary jobs, meaning “arrangers”. Their work starts with apricot in early June and ends in the grape harvest in October. Nevertheless, a hot line has operated at the Ministry of Agriculture for two weeks now in order to help villagers with matters connected with export of their produce. Thirty applications received during this period have been given positive solutions, according to the ministry. Garnik Petrosyan, Head of the Ministry’s Department of Plant Growing, Forest Economy and Plant Protection, says that according to forecasts made in April they expected 60,000 tons of apricot, however according to final observations that number is very likely to reach 100,000 tons. 2,461 tons of apricot have already been exported. Processing enterprises have accepted 400.2 tons. Apricot growers say that although they have a very good yield this year, such years happen rarely. “If I am to sit and wait for a good year once every three years, then I am lost. It is good that I work in construction on the side. I have given my life to this orchard, but now I also regret what I’ve done. Natural calamities on the one hand, agricultural difficulties on the other,” says Zaven. Petrosyan shares these concerns of the villagers. According to him, a serious long-term policy should be developed in relation to apricot; the matter should have a legislative regulation. Otherwise, villagers will gradually refuse to grow apricots. Many horticulturists mention the need for anti-hail stations. Within the framework of a pilot program, the Ministry of Agriculture has already installed such stations in Aragatsotn, Armavir and Shirak provinces, but not in Ararat. Approving of the efficiency of these stations, Petrosyan, however, mentions protective nets to keep gardens safe from hail that are used all over the world today. “Simply, investments need to be made. These nets prove their value by 100 percent,” he says. © Copyright ArmeniaNow.com 2002-2008. All rights reserved. Articles may be reproduced, provided ArmeniaNow.com is cited as the source Edited June 29, 2008 by Yervant1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted March 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 (edited) Also note her (sur)name Don't you love her "tsitsiks"? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdQ6b6lhfLQ&feature=related Edited March 30, 2010 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted May 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 (edited) I wish this was funny. No. It is sad!! Is this a prophecy by Komitas come to pass where he laments... Ծիրանի' ծառ, բար մի' տա, վա՜յ,Ճըգղերդ իրար մի' տա,վա՜յ. “Apricot Tree do not bear fruit, Vay!!”.----And now we read that the English of ԾԻՐԱՆ is pear/ՏԱՆՁ?Which ՏԱՆՁ ԳԼՈԽ translated that? What mickey mouse dictionary did they use? http://www.hetq.am/eng/news/984/ http://www.hetq.am/static/news/b/2011/05/984.jpg http://www.tree-pictures.com/pear1.jpg---- Pear Crop Forecast Cut in Half 12:54, 5 May, 2011Due to the near constant rains that have hit Armenia over the past several days, fruit orchards in the Ararat valley have suffered substantial losses. High moisture levels have resulted in a number of fungal diseases.Artur Ayvazyan, who heads the Division of Agriculture and Environment at the Armavir Regional Administration, told Hetq that local villagers had been distributed brochures as to what herbicides should be used to prevent the diseases.Mr. Ayvazyan wasn’t able to give us an approximate monetary damage amount but given that there are some 8,200 hectares of fruit orchards in the province the damages could reach staggering proportions.He said that the forecast for this year’s pear crop was about 20,000-25,000 tons. This is much lower than the 40,000 tons originally stated.------ Ծիրանի բերքը կանխատեսածից 2 անգամ քիչ է 12:54, 5 մայիսի, 2011Մի քանի օր տեղացող անձրեւները զգալի վնաս են հասցրել հատկապես Արարատյան դաշտավայրի պտղատու այգիներին: Արմավիրի մարզում գերխոնավությունից արդեն գլուխ են բարձրացրել սնկային հիվանդությունները:Արմավիրի մարզպետարանի գյուղատնտեսության եւ բնապահպանության վարչության պետ Արթուր Այվազյանը «Հետքի» հետ զրույցում ասաց, որ բոլոր գյուղերին բաժանվել են տեղեկատվական թերթիկներ, թե ինչ թունաքիմիկատներով պայքարեն հիվանդության դեմ: Վարչության պետը չկարողացավ ասել, թե անձրեւներն ինչ չափի վնաս են հասցրել գյուղատնտեսությանը: Նա խոստացավ թվերը ներկայացնել ավելի ուշ: Նշենք, որ Արմավիրի մարզն ունի մոտ 8200 հա պտղատու այգիներ:Տեղացած անձրեւներn օգտակար են միայն հացահատիկի ցանքատարածություններին, սակայն, եթե տեղումները շարունակվեն, օգուտը կվերածվի վնասի:Անձրեւների պատճառով այս տարի պակաս կլինի նաեւ ծիրանի բերքը: Մարզպետարանը կանխատեսել էր, որ այս տարի մարզը կունենա մոտ 40 հազար տոննա ծիրան, սակայն բերքը կրկնակի քիչ է:«Այս պահի դրությամբ կանխատեսում ենք, որ կունենանք 20-25 հազար տոննա ծիրան: Չեմ կարող կոնկրետ ասել, թե ինչու բերքի կորուստ ունեցանք, երեւի անձրեւների պատճառով փոշոտում լավ չեղավ»,- ավելացրեց Արթուր Այվազյանը Edited May 6, 2011 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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