DominO Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 From the recent research I've done on serious Western graduate Turkish intellectuals, I was surprised on one thing, there seem to be among those intellectuals a movement on recognizing the Armenian "elimination." Two interesting reads are The origins of Turkish Republican citizenship: the birth of race by Bora Isyar and Imagining the Turkish nation through 'othering' Armenians by Ayla Göl, both published in Nations and Nationalism rhis year. They're good read, I have particularly liked the first one, both are under 20 pages long, and if anyone is interested to get a copy, just PM me your email, and I'll sent a PDF copy. What is interesting with such Turkish scholars, is that they really precisly study the structure of the Turkish nationalism and its implication, in an angle that we generally don't see with authors like Dadrian. There are even a movement among the deniers to modify slightly their version(like pushing the Armenian death tolls to a range from 500,000 to 700,000). When I refer to deniers, I am not talking about clowns like Ataov and Halacoglu, calling them deniers will most probably be, overestimating them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 Wouldn't this movement have a tiny little bit to do with the desire to enter the EU? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 The trial of Orhan Pamuk and this ''movement'' are contradictory. I though freedom of speech was supposed to be improved in Turkey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skhara Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 New Turkish Intellectual Movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO Posted September 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 The trial of Orhan Pamuk and this ''movement'' are contradictory. I though freedom of speech was supposed to be improved in Turkey. style_images/master/snapback.png This only concerns serious scholarship, this is what I meant by movement, we can't expect a real change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO Posted September 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Wouldn't this movement have a tiny little bit to do with the desire to enter the EU? style_images/master/snapback.png I don't know, I am only observing and not interprating here. BTW, I recieved your PM, will recieve it tommorow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Wouldn't this movement have a tiny little bit to do with the desire to enter the EU? style_images/master/snapback.png Elly, great to see ya. How are you doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 New Turkish Intellectual Movement. style_images/master/snapback.png Turkish Intellectual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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