Siamanto Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 Online Armenian Newspaper Yerkir An ARF Publication Armenia: Facing New Challenges Raffi K. Hovannisian Armenia's first Minister of Foreign Affairs, 1991-92 and the Armenian Center for National and International Studies (ACNIS) founding director Dear readers, Between March 14 and 21, 2005, you had an opportunity to address your questions on the Yerkir's website to RAFFI K. HOVANNISIAN, Armenia's first Minister of Foreign Affairs and the Armenian Center for National and International Studies (ACNIS) founding director. See the full version of the interview in Armenian. Thank you for your active participation: Spartak Seyranian, editor-in-chief of "Yerkir" Weekly. Hosein Tabatabaei - Dear mr. Hovhannesian. What is you opinion about Iran - armenia relationship and cooperation ? Raffi K. Hovannisian - Armenia and Iran share long-standing cultural and civilizational traditions, which continue to this day. Iran plays an important role in regional cooperation and security. Hosein Tabatabaei - How do you think about similarities and diferences in cultural view of piont ? shat shenoragalootion. R. H. -- Real strength comes from respectful diversity. Stepan - Dear Mr. Hovhannisyan, Could you comment on prospects of Armenia as transit country, especially recent developments regarding gas from Iran. Thank you R. H. -- Armenia must strive to diversify its economic, energy, and security strategy at home and abroad. New transit prospects flowing from the Iran-Armenia line must be developed to safeguard Armenian and regional energy security and the respective sovereignties of all concerned parties. Vatche Iskedjian - Mr. Hovannisian, According to you, what's the best to tackle `corruption' in Armenia? How can we elect a parliament which serves the people and not the oligarchs who `buy' their seats in parliament by bribing voters? R. H. -- Bribery, corruption, abuse of power, and the broader scourge of conflicts of interest between public service and private gain have become endemic in Armenia. It gives us no consolation that other countries are corrupt as well. And the problem by no means resides solely in the parliament. It is presidential, governmental, judicial, oppositional, societal-in short, system-wide. Administratively, Armenia continues to be a very vertical place, so the example `up top' is crucial. If the president or a key official is corrupt, if they or their family member or their staff pronounce beautifully on the rule of law and a variety of anti-corruption programs but in reality abuse their office for personal benefit, then the average citizen loses confidence in his or her leaders and tries to beat the system as well. A vicious circle indeed. What is needed are personal example; political will; amendment of legislation to enable the formation of an independent investigative and prosecutorial body that starts with the presidency and moves down through every nook and cranny of the administration and society; application of mechanisms for citizen empowerment and public oversight; and finally, broad popular support to stand together against the inevitable reactions of violence from affected quarters both in and out of government. Gevork Ter Astvadsadrian - Hello Mr. Hovannisian, I'd like to know what Armenia's alternatives are in light of recent PACE pronouncements , and what are possible consequences if Armenia is declared to be an aggressor? What is the impediment to the recognition of the independence of Atsakh, what are possible disadvantages if any, and advantages. Thank you for your good work, and your efforts to get recognition for Artsakh as Foreign Minister, and your commitment to our homeland R. H. -- Thank you for your kind words. I have always favored Armenia's recognition of Artsakh's right to liberty, self-determination, and decolonization?under international law, domestic Soviet legislation, and historical-political benchmarks. These legitimate advantages notwithstanding, we have not done our utmost to design and pursue a comprehensive blueprint for realization of its quest for freedom. Often we have sent out conflicting signals and suffered from partisanship and parochialism under both administrations. We need new leadership. Eric - Are you going to participate in the upcoming presidential elections in 2008? R. H. -- Presidential elections are not an end unto themselves. I plan to the best of my abilities to continue contributing to Armenia and a dignified, democratic future for all of its citizens. Each of us must do his or her part. For now, the best answer I can offer is that no decision has been made nor any option ruled out. In any event, that high office is not my raison d'etre. Eric - Do not you think that with the current educational level of the members of Armenian Government the country cannot progress with the pace the rest of the world does? The Government consists mainly of `strangers�=80=9D in the areas they are responsible for. R. H. -- On the whole I agree, though there are happy exceptions to the rule. We must do our utmost to keep our best and brightest-especially ouryouth-in the country and offer them meaningful, contemporary avenues for self-advancement and public service. M. Moradian - Do you think that Armenian government should approach the US and the West in order to make closer ties with them or the authorities should remain a Russian ally and base in Caucuses? Why? R. H. - 21st-century Armenia should chart a course founded on its own national interest, the absolute sovereignty of its state, the unity and security of its nation, the democracy of its system, and the liberty of its citizen. All else is in the derivative domain of strategic and tactical implementation according to global and regional developments, political consensus-building, and public confidence. A successful, proactive policy of outreach would engage a variety of partners on the basis of healthy competition, common causes, andshared interests. Armenia's freedom to establish multilateral, mutually beneficial relations, and not multilateral dependency, should constitute the most telling index of its integral independence. Against this background, a considered foreign policy for the Armenian nation-state, requiring as it does the assumption of the hard lessons that history has dealt, recognizes its sovereignty as a supreme value to be treasured atall cost; defines maintenance of a peaceful geopolitical environment as its vital national interest; and accepts steady pursuit of dignified bilateral ties with all, near and far, as the most effective modality for achieving national security. To these ends, it behooves Armenia to cultivate a straightforward, sovereign partnership with Russia and the Commonwealth of Independent States; to reconcile words and deeds in its attempt to integrate into European institutions; to explore new connections in the Middle Eastern and Asian dimensions; and to continue to bridge common domains with neighborly Iran and transatlantic America. The world after September 11 avails Armenia of the ways and means to check and balance these policy directions. M. Moradian - If the border between Armenia and Turkey re-opens, what would be the challenges that Armenian businessmen, farmers and people will face? R. H. - The frontier in question was closed unilaterally by the Republic of Turkey in flagrant violation of the 1921 Treaties of Moscow and Kars on which it so often relies-to the point that the validity of those documents is now in deeper question than ever before. This is Turkey's issue, though both nations stand to gain from an open border and full normalization of relations basedon a brave facing of history that includes acknowledgment, atonement, and ultimate accommodation. Obviously, Armenian farmers, entrepreneurs, and the people at large would gain in terms of access to markets and consumer prices, but would benefit even more if Armenia found itself in advance in a more developed state of economic affairs. Self-confidence abroad requires first putting our own house in order. Zohrab keropian - I want to express my deep gratitude towards his Excellency for the excellent job that he did while in office, during that difficult times and not forgetting the raising of the Armenian genocide issue in Constantinople Turkey. I want to ask his Excellency on his political standings remembering the fact that during presidential elections he supported the opposition candidate for no clear reason thus can you give us a clear glimpse on your political grounds? R. H. - Thank you for your kind words. The political precepts that guide me are inalienable sovereignty for our republic, security in unity for our nation, democracy for our society, and liberty for each and every citizen. When by application of double standards and fear-based presidential decreesI was denied my own civil right to seek election, I decided not to sit in a corner, instead endorsing the distinguished candidate from the opposition. I exercised this option because I felt that, all things considered, he was the better candidate. What do you think, will our generation ever witness a fair, dignified election by which authority is transferred peacefully from incumbent to challenger? Regardless of personalities, such a transition is imperative for Armenia's future development. It is only with a legitimate, democratic, and rule-of-right homeland that we can expect fulfillment of foreign-policy objectives in the region and beyond. Stealing the vote-and thus conscience-from one's own citizens, brutally cracking down on them, and employing violence at every turn are domestic realities directly connected with our national capacity to seek and attain justice for other watershed issues in the international arena. The unjust state of our state -which has lost 1.5 million of its citizens to emigration during the years of its own independence-relates immediately to the efficacy of our demands for justice in the name of the 1.5 million victims of the Genocide. The world, in essence, has become one long chain and these are its links-apparently distant, but intertwined nonetheless. Gaytzag Palandjian - Would you consider a highly necessary post, as Minister for Diaspora-Affairs? If and when created? R. H. - The position, if one of substance and not of imitation, is worth considering at the highest levels. I believe there would be several candidacies better than mine. Kind regards. Gaytzag Palandjian - Would you not consider as imperative invigoration/Re-organization of the Diaspora, to become a Super-structure with Head, i.e. a Supreme Council with five departments:-1. The Legal-Political in Strasbourg(next to RA rep.)2. The Economic in Geneva, CH with 16-field representing chambers of Professional Colleagues Associations. The Executive in N.Y.,next to RA 's U.N. Rep.4. The Social Services and Repatriation in Moscow. Spiritual at St. Etchmiadzin in constant contact with Great House of Cilicia? Thanking you in advance, Respectfully, g.p R. H. - It reads well on paper and in concept. The Armenian reality will probably prove otherwise. Still, the aspiration is commendable and might contribute to an informed public discourse on both individual and structural contributions to development of a contemporary Diaspora working professionally for its own longevity and for the Homeland's perpetuity. Strategy should be Armenia-driven. Gevork (CAN) - Mr. Hovannisian what is, from your point of view, the best recipe or mechanism by which Armenians worldwide can optimize the level of involvement of the Diaspora in the homeland. Is it dual citizenship? Or maybe just time is needed for Armenians to fully comprehend the concept of state as well as the mentalities of each other (spyurk and hayastan)? Or maybe there is something else that we still have not understood? Everybody agrees that Diaspora has done a lot to help Armenia, but I think most also agree that incomparably more may be done if the proper conditions and settings are created on both sides. R. H. - You are right. Time, mutual respect, hard work, and an uncommon ability to look beyond the limitations of one's own vantage point are part and parcel of the `optimization formula.' Dual citizenship�=80'which requires that thoughtful programs be tailored for the discharge of civic obligations by dual-national applicants and that minimum residency thresholds be set for exercise of electoral rights-is one important measure for ascertaining greater involvement and inclusivity. But standing alone it is not a panacea. A grand design, which entails a unifying cause and mutual accountability, is in order. Gevork (CAN) - Mr Hovannisian, as the director of ACNIS, how would you assess the morale of the citizens of Armenia today (is it more or less similar to that of citizens in other Caucasian states). If you have information about the same issue in spyurk I would be glad to read it as well. R. H. - As you know, we are a nation that cherishes individual thought and enterprise. One can find a multiplicity of views and dispositions across the Homeland-Diaspora divide. Despite our trials, errors and tribulations, there still are points of light at both ends of the bridge. Generally speaking, however, an independent analysis would reveal relatively low morale and overall malaise both at home and in our communities. M. D. Ajemian - Mr. Hovannisian, Has ACNIS developed any reparation scenarios in the event that Turkey (within the context of their 10 year or so E.U. accession talks) accepts the validity of the Armenian Genocide? And would it not be a good idea to start a national discussion on the various possible scenarios including defining and delimiting Western Armenia? Much of the land of Western Armenia has been abandoned due to the Armenian Genocide and Turkishpolicy over the last 80 years.(It should be noted that 80% of eastern Anatolia is owned by the Turkish government) Should we not start promoting the fact that eastern Anatoila today is not as populated as the Turkish statistics claim,making it easier for Turkey to give up these lands which are not essential to the existence of the Turkish State? R. H. - A national discussion is always a good idea, though we have trouble from time to time in graduating beyond our partisanship and parochialism to achieve that level. A comprehensive framework for examining the Genocide, its legacy, and its consequences for Armenia and the Armenian people-both historic and contemporary-is part of this challenge. At the same time, we must take a critical, honest look at the state of affairs in the small parcel of the Armenian patrimony which survives today as the Republic of Armenia. We of all people do not need double standards. We reject them when they are applied by Turkey, Azerbaijan, and sometimes the international community. We certainly should not accept them in our own nation-state and among our leaders, whether elected or not. These cannot, and shall not, be the criteria by which we make judgments on the matters of yesterday and of tomorrow. M. D. Ajemian - Mr. Hovannisian, When I was a college student in the late 70's and early 80's I attended many discussions on the future of Soviet Armenia and the possibility of an independent Armenian State. I was one of the few people who believed that the Soviet Union because of its corrupt and economically mismanaged system would not survive for long and that an independent Armenian State would emerge. Now most take it for granted that Armenia is independent including those who laughed at the idea. I for one believe that the Turkish Republic could emerge into a different entity if all the players in Turkey's future push hard enough to break the hold of the Kemalist elite. There are ways to do it. It is a limited number of people who prevent Turkey from being a European state. Should we not start making an effort to start Turkish-Armenian conciliation with various Turkish groups in Europe initially and as the E.U. process unfolds with groups in Turkey? R. H. - There is today an emerging Turkish voice, still in the vast minority, seeking a brave reexamination of Turkish history, the foundations of the modern Turkish state, and Turkish-Armenian relations in particular. These beginnings of a crack in the official wall of silence are gradually approaching the seminal crossroads of the Armenian Genocide. Unbeknownst to them, this follows in the exceptional tradition of thousands of Turkish families who in 1915, at the risk of losing their own lives, endeavored to hide and save individual Armenians from certain death. My grandmother owed her life to one such righteous family of heroes, who to this day remain unsung because of the official Turkish dialectic. Whether in Turkey or abroad, this new generation of compelling, liberated Turkish thought should be engaged on all levels. And, yes, potential Turkish and Armenian accession to the European Union should become the major causal thoroughfare for a truly European coming to terms with history, a settlement of accounts, an inevitable normalization, and the joining of forces for regional security and cooperation-both as neighbors and as states member in the EU. No one should be the odd man out. Feasibility or fantasy? The answer lies within. See the full version of the interview in Armenian. http://groong.usc.edu/news/msg107164.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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