MosJan

HI need help need help on finding the best internet service in Armenia something fast and that will let me do internet conferencing MSN Video or net. any ideas ??? I was told some sort of a new internet access is available in Yerevan that uses some sort of "satellite" or a radio signal but it fast, some use this to connect to international phone services ~~~ anyhow if anyone can gave me a idea please do . Thanks IN ADVANCE mOVSES

http://janfedayi.com/Monte/nshan.gif Karabaghs highest honor, the Military Cross of the First Degree. it's the same one that Monte was posthumously awarded & many of our Hye Fedayis

BRITISH AMBASSADOR TO SLOVAKIA JOINS THE FRAY For the first time since the controversial comments made by the British Ambassador in Armenia on the Armenian Genocide, the British Ambassador in another country has joined the fray. Ric Todd, the British Ambassador to Slovakia, responded on April 5th to a letter sent by Ashot Grigorian, the President of the Armenian Community of Slovakia, complaining about the denial of the Armenian Genocide by Amb. Thorda Abbott-Watt. Amb. Todd expressed regret that the British government's position "on the events of 1915-16" had caused personal problems for the letter-writer, assuring him that "whatever happened will not be forgotten." Amb. Todd's letter is just as insulting as the denialist position of the British Ambassador to Armenia. Readers should send their complaints to Amb. Todd's e-mail address: bebra@internet.sk. Meanwhile, the British Ambassador to Armenia, Thorda Abbott Watt, continued receiving complaints from around the world. Two major Armenian organizations added last week their voices to this on-going controversy. The Armenian Democratic League (Ramgavar Party) of France published a statement in the organization's organ, La Lettre de L'ADL, "condemning the British Ambassador's statement as "false" and "politically ill-fated." It stated that her denial of the Armenian Genocide "is not only an insult to the memory of the entire Armenian nation, but should be viewed as a complicity to the Genocide." The ADL of France demanded that the Armenian government declare her a persona non grata and immediately expel her from Armenia. The second important statement was issued by the Armenian Community and Church Council (ACCC) of Great Britain. In a letter addressed to British Prime Minister Tony Blair, the ACCC called Amb. Abbott-Watt's denial of the Armenian Genocide "most insensitive and an affront to our dignity.... It is highly offensive not only to the memory of the 1.5 million Armenians whose Genocide she refers to, but to all Armenians throughout the world, including British Armenians...." The ACCC demanded that Amb. Abbott-Watt "issue an unqualified and speedy retraction of her hurtful and offensive observation which one could easily consider to be undiplomatic, patronizing, and most definitely unbecoming an Ambassador of Her Majesty's Government...." Furthermore, the ACCC called the British government's policy of denial "not only slanderous, but an immoral act, sinister in the extreme, committed merely for political expediency." The ACCC urged the British government to "re-address the issue of recognition of the Armenian Genocide of 1915, ...denounce the atrocities perpetrated against the Armenians of Turkey in 1915 as Genocide, and to condemn those responsible." Interestingly, on the eve of April 24, "the British-Turkish Inter-Parliamentary Friendship Group" is visiting Turkey this week. After a stop at the Mausoleum of Ataturk, the British Parliamentarians will meet with various Turkish officials, including Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul. Readers are urged to continue sending e-mails to Amb. Abbott-Watt: Thorda.Abbott Watt@fco.gov.uk; to Michael Jay, the Under-Secretary and Head of the UK Diplomatic Service: Michael.jay@fco.gov.uk; and to Prime Minister Tony Blair through the following web site: http://www.number-10.gov.uk/output/page821.asp (click on select a subject, select "international affairs," and then click on the "go" button), asking the British government to withdraw its Ambassador as she can no longer effectively carry out her diplomatic duties in Armenia. Please send copies of your e-mails and any responses to the Armenian Foreign Ministry: info@armeniaforeignministry.com By Harut Sassounian, Publisher, The California Courier

duq es inchqan azat jamanak uneq ??? cheq hognel vijeluts ??? hangstatseq eli vayyyyyyyyyyyyyy

by azg.am OPPOSITION RALLY STARTED: HOW SERIOUS IS IT? The Independence square of downtown Yerevan packed with masses of people yesterday, counted by independent sources as reaching 10 to 15 thousand, reminisced in some way the days of 1988 and 1991 national revival. The feelings of the people, though, seemed to be different. As the opposition powers organized their decisive rally signaling the process of power change, mostly people that are dissatisfied with their present life conditions attended the gathering that kicked off at around 4 PM, after the opposition activists could fix the loud-speakers and microphones. As the opposition leaders were voicing popular slogans "Kocharian, leave!" and "Unity!", the last one not fitting any context but being a popular echo of National Movement years, only several hundred people were taking up the torch to echo the words back. The rest of the contingent was listening with silence, only time from time several elderly people shouting that they hear and agree with what "their leaders" say. The event, though, was quite an interesting show for those who like to watch, as well as for journalists who look for an extra chance to snatch an interesting story. The policemen seemed quite nice to media men after the protests following the April 5 rally when the journalists were physically harassed by unknown men believed by many to be anonymous law-enforcers, hence the cameras and recorders were flashing everywhere. Anyway, while for some the rally had a meaning of life and death, the contrast amid the people in the first lines of the gathered crowd and those in the last lines seemed incomparable. An elderly woman’s heartfelt squeaky voice when uttering "Kocharian, go away!" was supported by teenagers shouts who waved flags and anti-government posters in front of cameras. These sounds were funnily accompanied with laughter of groups of well-fed young men standing just several lines behind the elderly woman. Although the authorities have "installed" their partisans in the crowd, it was not only them who were indifferent towards what’s going on. As the last lines of the crowd was thinning at the end of the square towards the green territory where the open cafes are situated, one would have difficulty to say who is who there. Next to several Europeans gazing with keen interest into the crowd, with their digital camera working non-stop, a long haired Diaspora-Armenian was standing with a bottle of cola in his hands. A little farther three beautiful ladies were pushing their way through the crowd, in an obvious manner to attract attention of the young men. At the café right next to the square one would have a great difficulty to find a vacant table to sit at. All the café tables were occupied, mostly by plump men who helped themselves to beer and cracked salty peanuts, watching the demonstration and discussing politics from a comfortable angle. Though the law-enforcers seemed to be tolerant to journalists, the harshness was yet to be displayed. As the lower rank policemen in civilian outfits were tracing down the most active participants of the opposition, they were bidding a green light form their bosses standing further away on the sidewalks going round the Opera and Ballet Theatre’s green area. Once, receiving an eye wink, three sporty men twisted the hands of one of the participants and rushed him out of the crowd to push him into a Soviet GAZ 2106 car, which drove off on a high gear immediately. This, though, was the debut of the mass arrests. By 11 PM an estimated 100 activists were detained. However, there were people who came with a sole purpose to add their part in ousting current authorities from their posts. Among the protestors were groups from all over Armenia- Lori, Shirak, Kotayk, Armavir, Gegharkunik. Many residents of Etchmiadzin and nearby villages walked to Yerevan to partake in the rally, as the law-enforcers had closed the roads banning any vehicles from entering the Armenian capital. There were people from Kotayk marz that came two days earlier and stayed in Yerevan for they knew that the authorities would close the roads. They were the ones that were repeating every slogan their beloved leaders were voicing at the rally, confident of one thing: they will go to the end to achieve their goal. As evening came, around 400 people sat together on the steps of the Opera House entrance with the opposition leaders to protest the very fact of the current authorities being in power, their "sitting" strike to continue as long as Messrs Kocharian and Sarkisian deign to resign

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LA arden sk@sel en $$$$Dramahavaqner@$$$$ vorosh Haykakan Tv ner yerek yev iysor $$$ en havaqum ognelu yev satar kangnelu iys prosesin - yez@ der votqi e sakayn danak qashor rRasabner@ arden patrast en irent gortsin antsnelu. Alpha inchpes vor jorovrdy kamqn e tor iynpes el lini. mi 2 kam 3 taryy heto k@xosenq sra masin, yev kampopenq te inch eyinq uzzum yev vorqanov statsvets, isk hima U hima @entrutyun@ jorovrdinn e !!! husov em jorovrdinn e ! http://armenianow.com/2004/april09/agnes/001.jpg sakayn hetaqrqir mi xosq e p@t@tum iys orerin - HARTS - um karajarkeyiq vor nor prezident lini ?? - PATASXAN - um vor jorovurd@ orinavor janaparhov @entry - bolorn el nuyn en asum hetaqrqir e husov linenq iydpes el lini.

it is the latest at this time. Azg.am has some in Armenian -

Opposition stakes all The long awaited day of pan-national endless rally prepared and sanctioned by the powers opposing the current administration and dismissing it as anti-national has finally come. Today, April 9, a process feared by many to destabilize the interior political field is to launch at the symbolic for Armenians Independence Square in front of the State Opera and Ballet Theatre. The rally to be held today by opposition powers, now counting 14 parties, is not given a green light either by the Yerevan municipality, nor by the Kentron prefecture office. This move usually signals that the authorities leave space for possible provocations or direct intrusion. Despite this, though, the opposition top figures were in high moods at yesterdays news meeting at the parliament house. Yesterday at noon the two leading opposition parties Justice and National Unity came up with a joint declaration. "Neither repressions, nor the blatant threats of Robert Kocharian or his valets will any further be able to suppress the wave of pan-national struggle aimed against the maintenance of illegal authorities in Armenia, which will gain a new momentum with the April 9 rally in Yerevan",- said the statement. Almost all the top opposition figures gathered to address the news meeting yesterday, except for the deputy Victor Dallakian. According to his teammates he was called to prosecutor’s office to give testimony regarding a "criminal case filed against the Justice bloc and the (whole) nation". Albert Bazeyan, Aram Z. Sargisian, Grigor Harutyunian said that they were also summoned to court, while Stepan Demirchian said that he "received an invitation but turned it down". All the opposition activists, closely watched by law enforcement agencies, are subject to explanatory presence at the prosecutor’s. Instead, the oppositionist leaders welcomed the break in the ruling coalition as parliament spokesman Arthur Baghdasarian, a vigorous proponent of "starting a political dialogue with the opposition" since the home atmosphere "warmed up", criticized the exercise of force by unknown sporty men with shaven heads on journalists at an April 5 National Unity demonstration. The act of harassment of journalists, believed widely both by oppositionists and common citizens to be carried out by anonymous members of law-enforcement agencies, made the opposition leaders to firmly decide that this time no similar repetition will take place. Meeting the parliament chairman Arthur Baghdasarian yesterday Artashes Geghamian and Alexan Karapetian, as well as Victor Dallakian a day earlier, have clarified the opposition’s demand: they will embark on a political dialogue only to consider the smooth change of current administration. Justice bloc has again put forward the need of holding a so-called referendum of trust to check the extent of Armenian citizens’ support to the current executive power, considered to be illegal by oppositionists. Anyway, Baghdasarian rejected the conditions of the opponent camp, which the Hanrapetutyun party explained by the fact that the coalition members Country of Law and ARF Dashnaktsutyun can’t make any proposals unless Kocharian allows them to. Stepan Demirchian said that all the information on the April 5 events and its prior persecutions and arrests of opposition members, as well as all media publications on the matter were thoroughly compiled by them and sent to all 25 embassies in Yerevan and to international competent organizations. Aram Sargisian, head of Hanrapetutyun, explained the threats of authorities to use water sprinklers and armed troops by the intention to disseminate fear among the people, for "they (the authorities) well know that if large masses of people partake in the rally, Kocharian will have to resign. (Yet), a calm power change will take place, and it will be a good lesson for the coming authorities". Artashes Geghamian added that "even if only 10 people attend the rally, these authorities are doomed". He went on saying that certain figures in Artsax call on "going to Yerevan April 9 to save our Robik (Robert Kocharian), but if Robik needs a rescue than it is only from his own surroundings, the axis and roots of which became the criminality". Aram Sargisian was more decisive: "There is no alternative to the power change; the process has launched, and the decision of people is going to be put to life. It may take days, but the change of power is going to happen anyway". How is the opposition going to answer the rude interventions of police force, the barbed wire and possible provocations and violence? Aram Sargisian declared that they have calculated all the possible developments and "have corresponding (counter) steps". Albert Bazeyan said that "any obstacle will be viewed as illegal act. What we are going to do? You will see." Anyway, the opposition leaders found it unlikely that they will be arrested, and the people will remain without leaders. They did also add that if the parliament’s majority does make changes in the law on rallies, then they may review their future steps. Thus, the bridges are not yet fully burnt down. By Karine Danielian

“If the leader is not elected” was that the first time or the second ??? or both ??? the fact of the matter is that Rubik is getting little bet of his owe medicine, he is being treated and boycotted by mainly same people that war boycotting LTP. So as the old saying goes ? what goes around that comes around” Robert was imported : ) to Armenia and presented as the liberator of Artsax, his “fame” was used to bust his election vote- I believe was mostly fraud anyways. Lets also not forget the outside influence and interests from abroad, someone has vouched for him and still is vouched and standing on his back, otherwise Robert would not of been in the presidential thrown now. “The point is not that our president does not have an intellectual capacity to lead” he was on a H1 TV last night and the way he was answering to simplest questions was a joke, the man has no vocabulary and intellect, he has this L@KTY look on his face – Aper yes em Vor kam - Taq Puchikneri Shqert – ir kartsiqov mi amborj azg der mankapartezum e woch voq vochinch chi haskanum, yev ir Tv yeluyt@ vor xekatakutyun er, jorovrding inchvro mi ban er asum ? kam hangstatsnum , pastn iyn e yete TV yeluyt e unenum uremn lrjoren e @endunum verchin mi qani shabatnery depqer@. Yev artahaytutyun@ te @endimutyun@ ir dimatsy chi shqertum iyl irar dimats  yev te inqn el karror e shqert kazmakerpel – te - jorovurd@ iren @entrel e vor jorovrdi tsvae@ hoga – yev voch te jorovurd@ ir ( roberty ) hogserov zbarvi I’m not in his favor - but also not in favor of a revolution or overthrowing a government since I don’t se the person or the persons who can do his job. By the time any one of as makes it to the presidential palace we will own so many favor’s to so many inside Armenia and outside of Armenia that we will need to close our Eye on some individuals and their behavior. Kuku is a criminal standing next to Rubik correct but who is standing next to the others, who is standing behind them and what favor are they going to do for them? At what cost ? Alpha jan all I know is something needs to be don, some one has to do it, by who and how ? I don’t know.

ARTIFACTS IN RETURN OF THE DEBT: Erebuni museum, where thousands of artifacts discovered during archeological excavations in the outskirts of Yerevan are stored, breathed with relief after paying some 600,000 Drams ($1080) in water and sewage utility debts. Earlier the utility threatened to ask a court to confiscate one of the artifacts in return of the debt, reported Armenpress on March 31.

ohhh man - you need to change them ??? now i need a new set I normally just use some Carburetor cleaner then deeps them in vodka every 30 days overnight, it has a burning sensation for the first week, but I have found the cure for that just spray some wT40 - or some week old avocado paste, works just fine. es inch bella er

umits ??? mi shurj@t nayi / nayi nayi mi varani achq mi paki pastoren amen inch lav e amen woq lav e batsy et mi qani rekavarnerits ??? yev iys verjineri ardar @ntrutyunerov poxarinnman depqum amen inch lav klini ??? orinavor chanaparhov @ntrvats ishxanutyun - heto ? i verjo orinavor te anirav ? da der ishxanutyun e barekam, mez ishxanutyun kam ishxanavorner petq chen, arden isk amen Hye Ishxanavor e i tsne, mard ararats e petq, vro minchev ir axpor kem hopari aygin jrel@ minchev ir bajanaxi yev zoqanchi tun@ tsaxketsnel@ qich el jorovrdi masin mtatsy, vor minch ach & dzax tallanel@, kilo ar kilo yerkir@ yev ardyunaberutyun@, hastotsner@ yev gortsaraner@ vajarel@ ~~~~~ ehh inch em yerkar barak xosum ~~~ tsankanal@ lav ban e / sakayn yerb tsankutyun@ / yerazanq@ / kamq@/ chi hamapatasxanum irakanutyan het da arden dar@ irakanutyun e, get mek varkyan chkartses te yes roberty kam muys latsirakneri kormnakits em. drants lavi mern el enter. Havat te huys lav ban en - yes im huys@ chem ktrel ~ sakayn - havatum em vor yerkri shat yev shat problemner jorovurd@ inq@ petqe lutsy , @esksi poxel inq@ iren, heto ir arjanin p@ntry yev kargi iren rekavar. sakayn vroqan jamanak havatov yev huysov jorovurd@ s@nnvi ? menak chases te / Mosjan nstats taquk LA tan@ inch gites Yerevan inch a kartsum kam el Yerevantsin / Hayastantsin incha uzum kam inch e petq yerkrin.

Alpha jan du inq@t havatum es vor mek@ ka vor linelov prezident yerkir@ p@rki ??? che lurj Havatum es ???

lseq serj sarksyani demqin yerb eq verjin angam nayel ??? iyter@ amborjovin mashvel en / cherni te da el e heroyini hovqeri tak ???

"revolution" yerku rusner n@stats Gorku anvan aygum xosum en / mek@ asum e te yek Herapoxutyun anenq yerkrord@ qich mtatseluts heto aknarkum " A chto yesli Pobedim" isk yete HArdenq ?? inch hiam mern e isk yete harden / hardenq / kam el hardi - kartsum eq vor jorovrdi yev yerkri masin e mtatselu arajin@??? chem kartsum /// voch mekn el jorovrdi masin chi mtatsy arajin@ irents tsarn en jrelu / irents Iygin tsaxkestnen / takn el te mi ban mnats / mi pshur kam pshranq et el hraparaki kentronum en kaxelu / jorovurd@ nayi yev kshtana Vatit's e; Vatthar@ ka ehh chgitem Muzikant petq che politika zbarvi - et mek@ hastat giten vor chen karror hardel / tapalel - migutse te Russ Qerrin mejq kangni irents, na el shat kaskatselii, te russ@ kangni mejq / uremn ester shat mi urish xarr e gnalu, shrjani liakatar apakayunatsum yev norits qaos. urraki vnas en talis irenq iresnts yev jorovrdin arajin@ - xerjer@ haziv goyateum en shater@, huys unen gone hajord 3~4 amisnerin qich turistner gan ~ qich $$$ mtni shukan ~ hima el urr nayes mardiq toser@ het en talis ~ vaxenum en Hayastan gnal. da el ir herdin en yerevi te mer herapoxakaner@ hashvi arel vro artasahmanits mardiq klinen~ Hameniyn deps der chem tesnum iyn andz@ kam andzinq vor yerkirn iyd votqi kangnetsnen. xostumnerov chi menak - xosqov te lini HAy huyyyy~ yerkir che ashx k@karutsenq.

Armat jan j@shmartutyun@ gites inchna / vor 2 shish tuti oghi xmeluts heto - el kampyuter@ kam fonter umna petq

selling overpriced lions ??? Ahhha ~~ hima haskatsa te inchpes kareli e HAr@stanal !!!

Welcome to HyeForum MArgoJan so your in Russia now and was born in ARmenia ??? "fiance is from the country of liberty, justice and freedom" justice and freedom ?? sorry thats not ARmenia

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thoth and bellthecat you have till the end of the day to say all you have to say to each other and get this nonsense off your chest’s 12pm and it’s over - I promises none of our moderators or the admin will interfere in your business but you have till 12pm. After that we no longer wish to see both of you making and insulting each other in any way. MOvses

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