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    Hamshentsa

    Xtianity is not the same as Armenian, you are stating your opinion which simply excludes a good portion or the greater Armenian community. Other then a few women in my family I do not know any devout Xtians. Additionally, I think even the devout have faith and no real understanding of the mystic nature of any religion that aims to explain existence to the mundane.
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    Hamshentsa

    What exactly is wrong with muslim Armenians or Hamshen.
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    Hamshentsa

    "Christianity" is not an Armenian relgion. Like all religions it is based on myth. It has as much validity as ancient Armenian paganism. If it were not a catalyst for the development of the Armenian alphabet then I would go as far as to say it is one of the darkest chapters in Armenian history (from as little as I know about it). Any nation that embraced christianity, lost a bit of itself and endured or perpetrated atrocities.
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    Hamshentsa

    I do not consider myself Xtian and consider an insult to be called one. Am I not allowed to still be an Armenian?
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    Stereotypes

    But do you think it is because of arrogance or an inferiority complex?
  6. original source of article: http://www.karabagh.am/eng/Region%20v%20izm/juznikavkaz.htm It is a bit dated but interesting and valid to my argument that Russia's interest in the Caucus' are served by Armenia. Consider Armenia's position and who are the most logical and historical allies of Armenia. To me the obvious choices are Russia and Iran. We cannot trust Georgia, they are practically in bed with the Turks and Azeri's and my impression of Georgia is they would sell their sisters for a buck. HOW TO MAINTAIN SOUTH CAUCASUS? Time to Finalize Relations with Allies and Partners Vladimir Stupishin About the author: Vladimir Petrovich Stupishin is the first Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary Ambassador of Russia to Armenia. "Nezavisimaya Gazeta" (Independent Newspaper) is concerned about the further existence of "those states in the post-Soviet territory which have not been acknowledged yet" since they may become the focus of NATO's efforts" in a situation when "Russia is not able to block the way of the West towards taking control of the post-Soviet territories. …Russia lacks serious impetuses for counterbalancing these emerging endencies" (cf. "Nezavisimaya Gazeta" of March 2, 2002). Undoubtedly, the existence of these states, firstly, Abkhazia and Karabagh, is put at risk. Nevertheless, Russia lacks impetuses for resisting the advancement of the USA and its allies in the post-Soviet territories which, in turn, harms the national interests of Russia. This is the case when even political statements may serve as impetuses. To this point Russia has been supportive for "mini-empires" and agreed to the groundless demonstration of their "rights" to the territories of the neighboring nations which in fact did not belong to them not so long ago. Statements made at the top official level in favor of the sovereignty of the minority nations could put on reasonable tracks the negotiations on the new organization of the relations between the former Soviet republics and their former autonomous units. However, Moscow holds back from such statements although its time for Russia to choose between those who really are its allies or simply partners and those who have far-reaching intentions. Also, Moscow should freely assist those states which have the same interests as Russia does. This is critical in a situation when third parties try to create dissonance between Russia and its strategic allies. In this aspect the pro-Azerbaijani lobby is particularly active in attempting to thrust a wedge between Russia and Armenia. Meanwhile, the Turkey-orientated Azerbaijan claims that it is Russia's "bearing point in Caucasus". On the other hand, Azerbaijan tries to startle Russia by the NATO bases in Apsheron and a new war against Nagorno Karabagh unless the latter does not reject its independence in exchange of the fictitious self-governance within Azerbaijan. Azerbaijan attempts to scare Russia and delude us, relying on our short memory. Quite unexpectedly Moutalibov remembered about the "Khojali Tragedy when in February, 1992 hundreds of peaceful people were killed as the result of the joint operation of the Armenian armed forces and the 366th Russia Infantry Regiment in the territory of Nagorno Karabagh". Did not Moutalibov personally admit in 1992 that the "Khojali tragedy" was, in essence, a provocation perpetrated not by the Armenians, but the people of Elchibey against Moutalibov himself (cf.: Moutalibov's interview in "Nezavisimaya Gazeta", April 4, 1992)? Moutalbov referred to the old deceptive propaganda blown up by Elchibey for inseminating discord between Armenia and Russia. The successful development of the Armenian-Russian relations will not be in favor of the present authorities in Baku or the opposition, or anyone here, in Russia who are fed from the hands of the Azerbaijani lobby. They all push Moscow towards supporting Azerbaijan in implementing its plans on annexation of Karabagh. For this purpose, in addition to other means, Azerbaijan speculates with the thesis about the so-called "pro-western" orientation of the present Armenian leaders. Meanwhile, Yerevan merely seeks for diversifying its foreign relations which is the only reasonable way for Armenia to survive. Moreover, what it needs is neither pro-American nor pro-Russian, but pro-Armenian policy. And if Russia intends to maintain its positions in Transcaucasus, it must regard the foreign relations of its ally Armenia with understanding, particularly in such situations when Russia itself is not able to assist Armenia. For example, the humanitarian aid provided by the USA in the course of the last 10 years which amounts to hundreds of million dollars. Can Russia undertake this responsibility itself? Nevertheless, Russia has other impetuses for strengthening its position in Transcaucasus, for example, the cooperation in the military sphere, including air defense and borders. In Transcaucasus such cooperation exists only with Armenia. Another impetus is the ownership of industrial and scientific assets which is critical for holding economic and social positions in any country. The above-mentioned issue is currently being discussed between Russia and Armenia. The protection of Armenia involves the defense of the borders and could more effectively contribute to the solution of the Karabagh problem without any regard to the Turkish-Azerbaijani pressure which is evidently in contradiction with our interests because of the far-going Pan-Turkish intentions. The Russian president announced in Yerevan in September, 2001 that "Russia's policy in the region will be targeted at ensuring Armenia's sound defense", and the resolution of the Karabagh problem should derive from the established status-quo: "Russia should be cautious for not destroying the balance which has been created between Armenia and Azerbaijan". To me, this position which is in line with Russia's interests. In general, it is time for Russia to stop trusting Azerbaijan in a situation when Baku swears to Moscow about friendship forever and acts as a loyal vassal of Turkey and a champion of Pan-Turkism. As soon as Russia goes to a compromise and gives up Karabagh, the Turkey-orientated Azerbaijan will no longer need Russia's support. This does not mean termination of our relations with Azerbaijan and application of any sanctions against it. There are around 3 million Azerbaijanis in Russia, and some of them have received Russian citizenship. In addition, Azerbaijan is our neighbor and Russia should treat it as a friendly neighboring state even if the latter fails to act in the same way. We should trade and cooperate in all possible areas, and promote cultural exchange between Russia and Azerbaijan. At the same time Russia should not oversee the real intentions of Azerbaijan especially when these intentions are in contradiction with the interests of Russia. Armenia has been our strategic partner since the very start of our relations and we need to treat Armenia accordingly. In this aspect I mean both Armenia and Karabagh because without Karabagh we would not have an independent and friendly Armenia. In turn, without the latter Russia would not have any bearing points in Transcaucasus. It follows that Russia should take Karabagh under its protection, and comprehensively assist in strengthening its security in its historical territory the borders of which were distorted by the Russian Bolsheviks and need to be rehabilitated. The unity of NKR deserves to be respected just as the territorial unity of other states. To me, the fair resolution of the Karabagh conflict assumes that Azerbaijan should refuse from the authentic Armenian territories. The crucial problem of refugees can be addressed by accommodating them in those areas where they reside now. It is senseless to hope that the Armenians can return to Baku, Gyanja, Sumgayit, Artsvashen, Getashen, etc. In this case why only the issue of the Azerbaijani refugees is raised at the discussions around the Karabagh conflict? In my opinion, the optimal solution of the Karabagh problem is the legitimization of the status-quo on the borders stretching along the confrontation line, as defined in the cease-fire agreement of 1994. Today all other alternatives are simply unrealistic other than the war on which Azerbiajan relies although it will not be of any benefit neither for the Armenian nor the Azerbaijani peoples.
  7. I would be surprise if this went very far. In my opinion the Russians take Aremenians for granted but at the same time they are not stupid people, especially Putin. He will do what is in his best interst and Russia's. However, trying to look at it from Russia's point of view it is better to have Armenia on my side and firmly wedged in between and against the Turks and Azeris. Obviously Armenia is Russias pawn right now but I do not think their short or long term goals are served by abandoning Armenia. Right now they are just trying to isolate Georgia and make an example of them. They do not want to lose any former Soviet states to NATO.
  8. Thanks, only last week I was trying to translate this story for my American wife. I think your version does the original some justice.
  9. I had to be sure so I checked a dictionary and under the word insane was Aryan's recent photo. I think insanity could be contagious when transmitted electronically so I will avoid responding to his posts directly from now on.
  10. Thank you for the clarification. Personally, I have no problem with a return or study of Armenian pre-Christian beliefs. My problems with what you say are with the whole "Aryan" and "racial purity" talk. Many people have prejudices within them. I am certainly not free of this. However, I do not believe in racial purity. Question for you: My wife is not Armenian (1/2 Okinawan 1/2 "white American" therefore my children are only half Armenian. So my question for you is if I am walking down the street in Yerevan (just as a hypothetical question) and I see on the other side of the street a couple of Turkish tourists. I see on the same side of the street walking towards me you and a few of your friends. Who are you going to attack first my family or the Turkish tourists?
  11. I named my son Devin. What does that make him in your opinion?
  12. I am not knowledgable about this Armenian Aryan movement so can you clarify something for me? Is the Armenian Pagan movement connected to the Aryan/Supremist movement?
  13. I don't have the means nor the savvy for business dealings with Armenia. I am just an average working stiff in the good 'ol USA. What I give Armenians and Armenia is in the form of charity. I do not make distinctions between Armenians based on the "purity" of their blood. I belong to a couple of Armenian forums I have seen this "Aryan" log on name and the accompanying message repeated elsewhere. Armenian Aryanism is the saddest and stupidst thing I have ever heard. You complain about a Zionist global agenda while at the same time whoring yourself out to White Supremists. Why don't you consider how divisive and destructive your philosophies are to Armenian unity and culture.
  14. Hey AA, so you going around to all the Armenian Forums to preach? Are you getting paid for each convert or per visit to your site? EDITED - see post above.
  15. Armenian Genocide, The 1,500,000 Signatures Petition http://www.petition1915.org/
  16. you are right. I could not even read what it wrote. I am glad you summed it up for me.
  17. I am no expert in this area, but Armenians today are not the "white" IndoEuropeans they may have been. Regardless of anyone's willingness to admit or accept, the fact remains that we have mixed over the span of our history with neighbors and invaders alike. Given the inherent impurity of many modern Armenian's blood, what choices are Armenian's left with? Thin out the racially pure Armenians from the mixed ones? How many Armenians would be left. Additionally, outside of the Basque no other people in recorded history have inbred succesfully. Distinct race developed in an isolated world with limited travel and communication options. Since technology makes the world a smaller place the advantedge falls on nations capable of obsorbing and assimilating new blood into the greater national gene pool with common cultural/nationalism as the unifying factor.
  18. I liked this alot. Really laughed at the prostitue analogy. I do disagree though if Turkey ceased to exist that day would be commemorated as a holiday in all former ottoOrc conquered nations.
  19. How do you define race and in this day and age is race a stronger internal force for an individual than ethnicity/nationality? I would think that a black, latino, asian, white American will have more in common with each other then with lets say a Spaniard, Middle Easterner, African or European. If you disagree then can you provide your reasons? In my own experience, my mother-in-law is Okinawan w/Japanese citizenship and my father-in-law is white American. My wife is culturally a mid-west American with traditional mid-west values. She just does not look like a typical "white" American. I was born in Yerevan but grew up in the US. She and I have more in common then would be obvious if you looked only at our "race".
  20. I agree on his overstmt of Tk's importance. wondering if he has a point on internal strife as a result of losing out w/EU. Would that not be a sign of an self-image struggle w/in Turkey, which I think already exists due to its self inflated ego and historic fabrication.
  21. I read this article just wanted other people's opinion. I am not that knowledgable on Turkish politics. http://www.thenewanatolian.com/opinion-16242.html
  22. Is that number accurate or is turkey threatening to deport all Armenians including those who are Turkish citizens?
  23. I am ashamed to admit that altough I could read what you wrote above my Armenian vocabulary is so poor that I cannot really understand it. What do you recommend for this Yerevan born to do who has been in America for so long to improve his Armenian.
  24. this is intersting and all but I did not know that tolma, basturma were turkish words. how would we find out the turkish words used in Armenian? is it based on the location of the Armenian or is it universally used by all Armenians?
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