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#Stormig May 16 2004, 09:10 AM

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Why is salty, աղի (aghi), and the opposite, lacking salt, անալի (anali)? Shouldn't it have been անաղի (anaghi)? 

 

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Խոսողին լսող է պետք:

 

 

 

 

At that time I did not participate in this debate.

Let me address the issue this way. Us western Armenians say “anli” not “anali”, probably a contraction and corruption.

 

Recently when I was reading Paruyr Sevak’s article Mer Qnarergoutyan Vahagn@ about Petros Tourian, this item caught my attention. Of course, Sevak thinks the word of Bedros Dourian, he thinks Bedros created a whole world rather than repeating all the platitudes of mountain, sea and heaven etc. The reason why he calls him The Vahakn of our Lyricism.

Among others of Bedros’ inventions he mentions that line fro ՏրտունջքTrtunjq/Protestations where we read; “Ելնել աստղերու սանդուղք անալի”. He says people , even linguists were so confused at that word that they finally decided that it may be a typographical error, so much so that they finally thought to settle the issue by substituting it with “ahali” (filled with awe). In fact my book of Tourian does have it as “ahali”. That is until, 50 years later it took another genius, Daniel Varuzhan to correctly interpret the word to mean “anali/ with no ali”, “ali/wave” being the singular of “aliq”, hence what Bedros meant was “a stairway with no rungs(waves)”, smooth.

 

Here is that poem. Here also it reads “ahali”.

 

http://armenianpoetry.com/arm/1656.html

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One more confusion in re Bedros Tourian.

I have been looking for a reproduction of his signature to see exactly how he spelled his surname.

Paruyr Sevak spells it as Dourian/Դուրեան, so does my book. Of course, in transliteration to Latin we may find a plethora of different spellings.

Even though this may not b the proper place to bring such a subject, we may discuss it in length under that topic of “Trkahay “, where we will see how deturkification had begun over a hundred years ago. To cite some examples , Daniel Chbukiarian(Turkish) changed his surname to Varuzhan, Ruben Chilingirian changed it to Ruben Sevak, Atom Yarjanian adopted Siamanto, and the list goes on.

 

We know that Petros Tourian’s family name was zumbajian (Turkish meaning chisel maker). He decided to armenianize it by simply translating “zumba “ to its Armenian counterpart “tour/thour”. In fact, not only he changed his own name, he changed the name of the entire family, we know this to be a fact as his brother Yeghishe, the one time Patriarch of Jerusalem also adopted Tourian.

 

Here is the confusion. If “Tourian” was supposed to be the Armenian translation of chisel then it would have been written as “thurian” Թուրեան. Bedros was no slouch, he knew Armenian even as much as Mesrop Mashtots , if not more. Then why did he spell it as Dourian/Դուրեան?, aAd if we were to retro-transliterate those who spell his name as Tourian then it would be Տուրեան .

 

Which is it?