2. Loyal

3. Loving Mothers

4. Respectful

5. Smart

6. Sexy

7. Good cooks

8. Best housewifes

9. High morals

10. Forgiving

Please, respond whether you agree or disagree and why. Which quality is the most important to you and why. Finally, add or remove reasons why to marry Armenian girls only.

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Abraham Lincoln, the president, said: "America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves."

"The defining characteristic of civilization is the consecration of sex to marriage, or at the very least, love and courtship. Marriage and family are the red blood cells of a healthy society and the basis for procreation" said another writer.

Sexual degradation is the primary instrument used by Satanists in order to induct people into their religion. "Sexual liberation" was a ruse designed by them to undermine marriage and family. Pagans have reduced all relationships between males & females to the lowest sexual common denominator. Their goal is to destroy marriage-family and make women a public sexual utility (amateur prostitutes). This is how they enslave mankind.

In Armenia, in general, men are required to get married in order to have sex, women are courted and loved. They are honored for their contributions as wife and mother. Far from protecting "women's rights," feminism in America has diminished women and left them twisting in the wind. When a woman has casual sex, as feminists advocate, inevitably she turn out disappointed and feels used and betrayed. She starts to hate men and falls victim to feminism and lesbianism.

The separation of sex from marriage, i.e. "sexual liberation," is one of the principle ways satanism and paganism have killed love. Wanton sex in America has become a facsimile for love. Young women in the West now market themselves as sexual partners, not wives and mothers. Men in America are also trained to seek sex, not love. Anonymous sex cannot compare to sex in the context of a loving relationship.

This deluded fascination with sex in the West is a large part of what we call "modernism", and when a Christian church takes the path of this modernization it will be as if taking the path of whorish-mess against God.

Monogamy and family in Armenia are wholesome and life affirming. When sex is consecrated for marriage, it bonds husband and wife. Marriage provides a wholesome secure environment for raising children in Armenia.

For a real woman, by her instinct, sex is an act of surrender and possession and by right definition and understanding, it requires trust and commitment. Most women, deep in their hearts, want one thing: to be loved permanently by one man whom she loves. Sex to them is the symbol of an exclusive long-term bond. But society and the modern culture they have grown in America tells them otherwise; all from TV programs, movies, mass media, music, books, college and university education program --their minds is programed into a free style partying life to be the norm for them. They are not able to resist social pressures to act according to their instincts in a normal fashion they were meant to be, like it is done in Armenia.

In Armenia men chose women for their worth as helpmates. She must know how to cook, make clothes, and milk cows if living in rural area, and know how to dance traditional Armenian dances.They look for women who are gentle and accommodating, who have skills, character, personality and make good mothers. Like the plague they avoid promiscuous women, feminists and women who are alienated from their fathers; and women who want everything to be "equal" between wife and a husband.

In the West men have been brainwashed to idealize women, having divorce in mind when this period of idealization is over; while in Armenia women are treated lovingly and not idealized except in few cases. In Armenian marriage a couple looks for a life-long companionship, someone who is easy to live with. They know that sexual attraction inevitably will fade.

In America they also know that sexual attraction inevitably will fade, but who cares!! They can dump anytime their companion and get another more attractive sexually. The corruption in America have reached levels unimaginable by men&women of Armenia.

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At the beginning just want to apologize for language mistakes.

I have problem and I need advice from ppl who have experience.

Im with armenian guy, he's older than me 11 years, he lives in Poland 5 years now. In june he needs to back to his country.

We met more than 6 months ago and we are couple 6 months. I just felt in love with this amazing man. We got engagement and we were planing wedding in next 2 or 3 months...

Everythin was great till he had his own flat but after he moved to his sister house and everything started changing...

We just fight and fight and everyday almost I cry. It's horrible!

Whatever his sister says he does, he cannt live without this family, they are the most important in the world and me his future wife ????whatever I say he just forgetsor doesnt follow at all.... only when we fight he takes things serious...I just dont understand why....

I heard lot of bad things about armenian but I wish hear something good, are there any mixed couples , happy wifes who can share with me how to solve problems?but im not saying about armenian girls just about armenian-different nationality relationships.

becausue I have heard armenian girls opinions...and Im not armenian. Im polish girl, here everything is different and I didnt grow up in armenian culture.

The man that I love I cant leave....even though we got many problems.

Last time he said he won't help me in house even if i have kids and many stuffs t odo because this is girls job, only when we are alone I can ask him for help. When he invite friends I need to serve for them and do not ask him even to bring tea from the kitchen.

Here in Poland in relationships we share everything , we help each others, share not only love but everydays life. Polish girls are so independent and energetic always have something to say but we also love so much and take care of our men with all love we have.

I unerstand he is not polish and he will never be and I know I have to go for compromises. But I think he want me to became exactly like armenian girl and this is immposible for me. Something what is normal and obvious for armenina for me it can me strange and unnormal.

We both have to make some changes in us.

But I will never understand why his family is more important and I heard it always be...Is it right?

Please I need opisions, advice, some tips how to understand this man....

NOW IT LOOKS THINGS THIS GOES ALSO IN ARMENIA BUT THE PLAY in Armenia IS UPON THE FEMALES BY ARMENIAN MALES. Here is a recent story reported in Hetq.am:

Blind Love: Young Woman Hands Over 3 Million AMD to Man She Never Saw

http://hetq.am/eng/news/22484/blind-love-young-woman-hands-over-3-million-amd-to-man-she-never-saw.html

Here’s a story that could have been lifted from some cheap romance novel. Sadly, it’s real, and so are the victims .

29 year-old Kristineh Mikayelyan fell in love with a man she only knew over the telephone. Over the course of a year, the young woman handed over some 3 million AMD in cash and gold jewelry to a man she had never seen in person.

That man is Edward Malintsyan, who is now on trial for fraud and detained at the Kosh correctional facility.

In fact, the two first saw each other at the investigator’s office. Kristineh was taken aback when she saw the thin and small bodied Edward. It was nothing like the Rambo-esque photo he had sent her from jail.

At that face to face meeting, Kristineh’s mother was able to whack Edward a few times with her umbrella. The angry mom shouted, “So you’re the guy who cheated my daughter. I’ll bury your head. Give the money back.”

Yesterday’s trial was supposed to have started with the questioning of witnesses. Five of the nine registered were at the trial. However, the defendant told the court he felt queasy. Judge Martin Saroyan declared a twenty minute recess, during which Malintsyan was given a shot of Dimedrol. He complained of numbness and said he might not be able to hear all the witnesses. The court nevertheless went ahead with their testimony.

Aram Tadevosyan, a taxi driver, was one who testified. Two years ago he plied the Gyumri-Yerevan route. He said he knew Kristineh since they lived in the same neighborhood in Gyumri. Mr. Tadevosyan told the court that on several occasions Kristineh gave him a package to deliver to Yerevan. He would phone the number Kristineh had given him and the packages would be picked up.

“Once, she gave me two gold rings to deliver. Another time it was an envelope full of cash. There was a medium size box another time,” Tadevosyan told the court.

Another taxi driver, Azat Atoyan, also testified that he had taken a sum of money for Kristineh to Yerevan. Atoyan confessed he didn’t remember the amount.

“I don’t remember if it was 60,000 or 100,000. I just know it wasn’t more than 100,000,” Atoyan said.

After the witnesses finished testifying, the defendant complained about being sleepy.

Judge Saroyan scheduled the next trial session for January 23.

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All of the ancient mystery or occult-based religions began at Babylon. Semiramis murdered her husband Nimrod, and to conceal this murder from the population of Babylon she told them that Nimrod had ascended into the heavens and become the sun-god Ra, who was to be worshipped. However, after Nimrod’s death, Semiramis became pregnant because she was carrying on an illicit affair. To conceal her affair, she told the people that she became supernaturally pregnant. Semiramis claimed she became pregnant by using a phallic symbol upon herself. This began the countless architectural phallic symbols and womb symbols that have been built around the world, including Cleopatra’s Needle in Manhattan, New York.

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EX-BODYGUARD UNVEILS MORE CORRUPTION IN SAUDI ROYAL FAMILY

 

15:31 | 2012-12-11

 

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TEHRAN (FNA)- A former bodyguard of a Saudi princess revealed a

confidential story of the Royal family that had caused a typhoon for

Riyadh rulers.

 

Mark Young, a former bodyguard of Princess Rima bint Talal, daughter

of the Saudi Prince Talal bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, reminisces parts of

his memories about his job in Riyadh and reveals some cases of the

corruption of the Saudi Royal family in interviews with different

Arab papers every now and then.

 

In a most recent case, Young disclosed that Princess Rima had

kidnapped a charming Armenian youth in Riyadh, kept him in her

bedroom for a month and then escaped to Switzerland with the boy.

 

The members of Al Saud family were very confused because they feared

that Rima's escape might have been disclosed to the public after the

young man's family started complaining in this regard, the bodyguard

wrote on his page on the Internet.

 

He noted that Rima's mother, Princess Mona Al Solh, was commissioned

to bring back her daughter to Saudi Arabia at any cost.

 

"Then Princess Al Solh met Rima in a hotel in Geneva and poured

anesthetic drug in her orange juice and when Rima opened her eyes she

was back in the Saudi capital, Riyadh," Young said.

 

The Armenian boy was son of a famous Armenian fashion designer

working in Riyadh.

 

Rima bint Talal is the granddaughter of former Saudi King Abdulaziz

Al Saud.

 

 

Հոկտեմբեր 10, 2012 | 23:24

Ֆրանսիայի առաջին տիկին Վալերի Տրիերվեյլերը միաժամանակ եղել է եւ Ֆրանսիայի նախագահ Ֆրանուա Օլանդի կինը, եւ ամունացած պահպանողական նախարար Պատրիկ Դեւեջյանի սիրուհին, հաղորդում է բրիտանական Sun-ը: Թերթը հրապարակել է 47-ամյա «տաքարյուն» Տրիերվեյլերի սկանդալային դավաճանության մանրամասները:

Դեւեջյանը Օլանդի հակառակորդի՝ Ֆրանսիայի նախկին նախագահ Նիկոլա Սարկոզիի մոտ ընկերն է, ով այս տարվա մայիսին նախագահական ընտրություններում պարտվեց Օլանդին:

Վալերի Տրիեվեյլերը երբեք չի վայելել ֆրանսիական մամուլի սերը, ում մամուլում անվանում են «Վալերի ռոտվեյլեր» եւ մինչ այս սկանդալը եղել է Ֆրանսիայի ամենա ոչ պպուլյար առաջին տիկինը ժամանակակից Ֆրանսիայի պատմության ընթացքում:

Տրիերվեյլերը դարձել է իր ապագա (թվով երրորդ) ամուսնու՝ Ֆրանսուա Օլանդի սիրուհին դեռեւս այն ժամանակ, երբ 58-ամյա Օլանդը դեռեւս ապրում էր Սեգոլեն Ռուայալի հետ, ով նրա 4 երեխաների մայրն է եւ Սոցիալիտական կուսակցության ազդեցիկ դեպքերից մեկը:

Հիմա հայտնի է դարձել, որ Վալերի Տրիերվեյլերը ոչ միայն ամուսնացած է եղել ամուսնացած Օլանդի հետ ինտրիգների ժամանակ, այլեւ «գաղտնի սեքսուալ հանդիպումներ» է ունեցել Դեւեջյանի հետ, ով հիմա 68 տարեկան է:

Թերթի փոխանցմամբ, Տրիերվեյլերը բազմիցս Դեւեջյանին խնդրել է թողնել 30-ամյա կնոջը եւ երբ Դեւեջյանը կտրականապես մերժել է այդ առաջարկը, նա իր ջանքերն ուղղել է երկրի ներկա նախագահի ուղղությամբ:

«Դա անհավատալի է թվում, բայց ինչպես Դեւեջյանը, այնպես էլ Օլանդն իմացել են, որ իրենք երկուսն էլ քնում են նույն կնոջ հետ եւ միմյանց վերաբերվել են մեծ հարգանքով»,-նշում է թերթը:

Միաժամանակ, երկու տղամարդու հետ քնող Տրիերվեյլերը, նաեւ ամուսնացած է եղել «Պարի Մատչ» ամսագրի լրագրող Դենիս Տրիերվեյլերի հետ, որից ունի երեք որդի: Այսպիսով, նա միաժամանակ ակտիվ կապի մեջ է եղել երեք տղամարդու հետ:

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Հայ երիտասարդն ամուսնացել է Ադրբեջանի փոխվարչապետի եղբոր աղջկա հետ

Հեղինակ՝ Henaran1, թողարկված՝ Սեպտեմբեր 26, 2012 19:30 -ին այստեղ՝ ԱԴՐԲԵՋԱՆ, ԼՐԱՀՈՍ, ՀԱՍԱՐԱԿՈՒԹՅՈՒՆ, ՎԵՐԼՈՒԾՈՒԹՅՈՒՆ, ՏԱՐԱԾԱՇՐՋԱՆ · 0 մեկնաբանություն

Ադրբեջանի առաջին փոխվարչապետ Յագուբ Էյուբովի եղբոր աղջիկը Ղազախստանում ամուսնացել է հայ երիտասարդի հետ, հաղորդում է hurriyyet.net-ը: Հարսանյաց հանդեսին ադրբեջանցի մի խումբ պաշտոնյաներ են մասնակցել: Ադրբեջանցի պաշտոնյաներից մեկը, ում անունը չի հրապարակվում, հանդեսի ժամանակ հույս է հայտնել, որ Ադրբեջանի և Հայաստանի միջև հարաբերությունները շուտով կվերականգնվեն: Նա ասել է, որ դրանից հետո վերականգնվելու են նաև ադրբեջանցիների և հայերի միջև ազգակցական կապերը. հայ ու ադրբեջանցի երիտասարդների միջև ամուսնությունների թիվը մեծանալու է:

Իսկ Ադրբեջանի առաջին փոխվարչապետը բավական կոշտ է արտահայտվել “հայկական” հարցի վերաբերյալ:

Ըստ hurriyyet.net-ի` ամուսնությունը չի կատարվել շարիաթի համապատասխան: Շարիաթի կանոններով` մահմեդական տղամարդը կամ կինը կարող են ամուսնանալ հրեայի և քրիստոնյայի հետ, եթե վերջինս մահմեդականություն ընդունի: Սակայն ամուսնության գործընթացում կրոնական գործառույթ տեղի չի ունեցել:

Մյուս կողմից պետք է նկատի ունենալ, որ Յագուբ Էյուբովը շարքային քաղաքացի չէ և կարևոր դիրք է զբաղեցնում երկրի իշխանության մեջ: ”Ռամիլ Սաֆարովի դեպքի` երկրում դեռևս քննարկվելու պայմաններում իշխանության նման կարևոր անձի` հայի հետ բարեկամանալու փաստը, անկասկած, հանրային կարծիքում իշխանության համար բավականին քաղաքական բարոյական խնդիրներ կառաջացնի:

Եթե դրան հավելենք նաև երկու օր առաջ դեսպանների հավաքում հայերի և հայկական լոբբիի մասին երկրի նախագահի ասածները, ապա կարելի է պնդել, որ Յագուբ Էյուբովի համար դրա արդյունքը այնքան էլ ուրախալի չի լինելու (դեսպանների հավաքում նախագահը հայկական լոբբիին Ադրբեջանի թիվ մեկ թշնամին է անվանել):

Բնական է, որ այս տեղեկությունից հետո պարզ է դառնալու նաև այն, թե ինչքանով է երկրի ղեկավար Իլհամ Ալիևը անկեղծ և զգայուն “հայկական” հարցում: Իրականում, այս լուրից հետո ասելու բան չի էլ մնում” -ընդգծում է hurriyyet.net-ը:

Պիտակներ՝ Ադրբեջան, ամուսնություն, Հայաստան

Now, I'm confused of course because no American man would hang around so long unless he is serious. We are talking about over two years here. So please shed some light on this strange relationship coming from your culture so I can better understand.

we met and started to be very close. Unfortunately I am on east cost and she is on West and I try to visit her at least twice in month..

Recently she started to give me hints that her parents are growing against our relationships

as am not an armenian . I tried to get to the root of this but she says it is cultural..

Anything I can do to win her parents or at least not turn her against me?

by Sylvia Plath

"I shut my eyes and all the world drops dead;

I lift my lids and all is born again.

(I think I made you up inside my head.)

The stars go waltzing out in blue and red,

And arbitrary blackness gallops in:

I shut my eyes and all the world drops dead.

I dreamed that you bewitched me into bed

And sung me moon-struck, kissed me quite insane.

(I think I made you up inside my head.)

God topples from the sky, hell's fires fade:

Exit seraphim and Satan's men:

I shut my eyes and all the world drops dead.

I fancied you'd return the way you said,

But I grow old and I forget your name.

(I think I made you up inside my head.)

I should have loved a thunderbird instead;

At least when spring comes they roar back again.

I shut my eyes and all the world drops dead.

(I think I made you up inside my head.)"

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Mike Green remembers back in 2005 when his then-wife asked him to add text messages to their cell phone plan. Green, of Mankato, Minn., had no interest, but his wife went ahead and signed up. After that, he says, she seemed to text all the time — when he'd come home from his evening shift for dinner, when they were cruising the shopping mall.

"Actually, one of my buddies asked me if it was a big deal she was texting all these people," he says. "I said 'No, I trust her, so why would I even worry?'"

Then Green saw a phone bill. He says there were hundreds of texts, a long list of numbers that meant nothing to him. Over time, there was one number more than any other. It was a colleague his wife had started an affair with and for whom she eventually left him.

"Because I was gone at nights, she used him as her support system," he says. "She would talk to him about things."

It turns out that text messages and social media sites like Facebook and MySpace — so beloved for bringing people together — can also drive a wedge between couples.

"We hear this so commonly in our offices that it began to feel like there was a CD player hitting repeat," says Tara Fritsch, a marriage therapist in Edmond, Okla.

To be sure, she says, texting doesn't break up a marriage, people do. But opportunity is a key predictor of infidelity, and social media have increased opportunity exponentially. Does something remind you of an old flame? You can reconnect in the few seconds it takes to type the person's name into Facebook.

"Twenty years ago," Fritsch says, "if you really thought a co-worker was interesting, and later on that evening you thought of them and wanted to say, 'Hey, how you doing?' Then you would have to ask yourself, 'Is it really appropriate to call them at home? What if their spouse answers? What am I thinking about?' "

Today, those stopgaps are gone. Texts and e-mails can be delivered privately. Sending a little message, at least at first, can feel so innocent.

In fact, as Lindsay James of Fort Worth, Texas, learned the hard way that a partner can easily carry on an affair in the same house, even the same room.

"That's what would upset me more than anything," James says. "It's like, 'Wow, he was sitting right next to me, we were watching a movie, and [he was] talking to someone else — and I had no idea.'

The irony, James says, is that her boyfriend admitted he would never have had the nerve to approach other women in person.

Green says he was stunned at how quickly his wife's texting relationship turned into an affair. That's typical. Bob Rosenwein of Lehigh University has found that people communicating online often fall for each other in about a week. That's two or three times as fast — on average — as those courting face-to-face.

"When you don't have nonverbal communication, the likelihood of being able to disclose at a deeper level is greater, because there's less inhibition," Rosenwein says. "So it's going to feel like a more intimate relationship."

Therapist Fritsch says this makes it easier for some with no intention of starting an affair to unwittingly cross a line. Often this leads to a physical affair but even without that, some marriages are damaged.

"The emotional loss — the lies that have hidden the emotional connection — is just as painful as if their spouse had actually gone out and met with someone," Fritsch says.

After his divorce, Green got his own social media accounts and also started texting. He soon learned how easy and addictive it is.

"It's a rush," Green says. "It's a good feeling to have this constant attention poured upon you by anyone that you get to text all the time. And I find myself still loving to get texts from females, and I text, text, text, back and forth."

Yet Green says he's wary about another intimate relationship. He wants to trust again. Every time a girlfriend texts someone else, he can't help but feel suspicious.

So I was wondering if you guys can give me some information about planning a weddings. What would you avoid, how would you arrange, what were some of your experiences. Have you been to an outdoors weddings and indoors ones. What should one know about the pros and cons of both? Most women are very excited about the whole affair and dreamt of the day all their life, I was really never one of them. I really dislike the whole process. Can you tell me some stories, tips and information as much as you can, please?

Especially you Vavachka, your wedding was not that long ago as I recall.

I'm sure this subject has been discussed one way or another in Hyeforum. But I'd like to revive it and ask this: how do you feel about the state of marriage in Armenian-American culture? Specifically first-generation Armenian-American? What does marriage mean to Armenian men and women? As immigrants to America and having "American" education? Or having "American" education yet trying to preserve Armenian customs? Are there conflicts? What are your views?

I never thought I might see this kind of stuff by Armenians, yet it is reality.

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I’ve been dating the most amazing Armenian woman for over a year now. It started off long distance and I eventually moved to her city to be with her and to take our relationship to the next level. We both know we want to and are going to get married, no matter what. However the only issue is that I’m what Armenians call odar. Honestly though it doesn’t bother me, I’m so thankful for being who I am and if I had the choice I wouldn’t want to be Armenian, nothing against Armenians I just don’t see the need to feel bad for being who I am.

I’m open to the Armenian culture, I’ve started to learn the language with my lover, am fine with our children learning the language and I’m excited to go with her and spend a few months in Armenia. The entire Armenian community in our city adores me, her best friend from Armenian school and her mom even put me up in their house for a week when we were first visiting and gave me the nickname ‘Antranig Voodian’. Her brother knows about us and we get along great, all her friends know about our love and are so happy for both of us. The only people who don’t know are her parents. We’ve talked long and hard about how we’re going to break the good news to them, and by her choice we decided to wait until I’ve moved to her city and am there for her physically for when we tell them so I can support her.

I’ve read plenty on both sides of the story about weather an Armenian should or shouldn’t marry outside of their race and I’m not willing to debate that there, we’re already together, we’re going to stay together and get married no matter what.

I dislike the idea of not being ‘accepted’ into her family’s side of the Armenian community because they are embarrassed in their daughter’s choice to live her life for herself, not for a nation or a nationality, like not being able to go with her to weddings, and other social gatherings that her parents are at. Mind you were both adults, but she is still living at home off of her parents while she goes to school.

My question is how should we as a strong loving couple who plan on living the rest of our lives together go about breaking the news to her parents? And what could we do to get them to try to accept us for who we are and not shun our love, our relationship, or their daughter’s choice to live her life and marry the man she loves?

Brian W

I am new here and have a question to you folks... People often talk about whether is it OK to marry an Odar or not. My question is directed to the people who has already made that experience and are married with an odar. I would like to know how do you "manage" your marriage? How do you keep your Identity?

From my own experience and what I have observed from friends being in relationship with odars, it is very difficult to stay 'armenian' if you don't have a partner who gives up his identity or doesn't care that much about his culture. And even IF, you still have to explain yourself ever and ever agian.

#1: Problems among you two:

You always have to compromise. You alwas have to explain yourself why do you think the way you think. Why you do have a close relation with your parents. There are A LOT OF things which you do without thinking about, because they are normal to you, but not your husband. To an extent, of cours in a relationship you always have to compromize, you always have to explain... but I have the impression that there is more to explain with an odar. And the worst thing is, he won't understand it right. He will say ok, I got it, but he has got it in his own way. It is like you speak different languages in your mind too, you are programmed to think different.

#2: Problems among your families: which may result in #1

The good thing about odar families is that they dont stick they nose into your business that much as armenian families. BUT it is still difficult to make them understand that you are an ARMENIAN and you like to keep your langauge, culture. And that maybe someday if you have children you would like them to speak your language. Many odars come up with "armenian? why would you need that?!". Here is also the point that no matter how you explain, they won't really understand your point. In the european country where I live, many people are arrogant and to some extent nationalist: thinking of themselves as of being very progressive. Cultures that they don't know are seen as un-progressive. You always have to fight with that ignorance & stupidity!

#3: Problems concerning your friends: which may result in #1

It is very difficult to have common friends. I have many armenian friends and when we meet with them, my BF feels always uncomfortable because we speak a language he doesn't understand. I think the real problem is that he hay txamardkanc xandum e! That's a thing I have observed very often on odar men/women who have armenian partners.

#4: Problems concerning your children: which may result in #1

We don't have children yet, but because of the points above and because I have observed it many times on other friends it seems to me that you always have to explain/argue why you want your children to learn armenian, why you want your children to spend time in Armenia, why you want your children to have armenian friends.

So, what are you experiences and how do you solve your problems? Some may say, simply marry an armenian, but I am sure with the armenian guy I would have problems of other kind...

moqqa

ps: sorry my poor english.

The conversation eventually drifted towards how best to spice up their love lives.

After much discussion, they decided to surprise their men by engaging in some S&M role playing.

The following week they met up again to compare notes.

Sipping her drink, the single girl leered and said, 'Last Friday at the end of the work day I went to my boyfriend's office wearing a leather coat. When all the other people had left, I slipped out of it and all I had on was a leather bodice, black stockings and stiletto heels. He was so aroused that we made *********** his desk right then and there!'

The engaged woman giggled and said, 'That's pretty much my story! When my fiance got home last Friday, he found me waiting for him in a black mask, leather bodice, black hose and stiletto pumps. He was so turned on that we not only

made ******** all night, he wants to move up our wedding date!

The married woman put her glass down and said, 'I did a lot of planning. I made arrangements for the kids to stay over at Grandma's. I took a long scented-oil bath and then put on my best perfume. I slipped into a tight leather bodice, a black garter belt, black stockings and six-inch stilettos. I finished it off with a black mask, ready for action.

When my husband got home from work, he grabbed a beer and the remote, sat down and yelled,

'Hey, Batman, what's for dinner?'

What do you guys think of these kinds of marriages? Are they successful? Repressive? Personally, I don't really know what to make of it so I wanted to know what you guys thought.

Is this real or in my dreams

My worlds unraveling at the seams

You have my heart now take my soul

This cyber love is what makes me whole

I can't believe what's happening to me

Your face so perfect that I've never seen

Your lips so soft I may never touch

I only feel the keyboard I clutch

I need you now I need you forever

In an electric world to be together

A surreal place that plays with the mind

In a cloned world of two of a kind

I consume your words they filter inside

No matter what I do I can't seem to hide

My trembling hands awaiting the rush

When I feel you near to resume this crush

Your my everything my unyielding desire

The spark so the match before it lights fire

The angel within that whispers my name

Controlling the moves in this wicked game

This cyber love Is why I awake

This cyber love is my only escape

The time has come i feel it in my spine

When I look towrd the melancholy light and see your on-line.

Eraklis

Let me start by saying that physical appearances are nothing but secondary. In my opinion. Of course no one wants to have a relation with a monster. But lets not be radical here.

I'm 19 years old and I have been with many, many women, keyword here is: women; not only girls. It surprises even me. I like to think of myself as someone lucky, because God blessed me with very good looks, I am not full of myself at all. Since I was a kid I had their attention, and of course growing up made it even better. All that is said for you to know that my point of view is based on my experience and I take my attraction of the opposite sex to the next level.

I don't find beautiful women to be as attractive anymore. There's an expression in french: ''Belle de loin, mais loin d'être belle'' - ''Beautiful from afar, but far from beautiful''.

Everyone human being emits an aura, it's a fact, regarding the attitude you adopt in life, it can be very positive.

I came across some women who aren't beautiful. But what caught my attention and heart, and is what I'm looking in a woman, the perfect one - beautiful women to me are those in which you can read their every single emotion, and the way they try to hide it makes me fall for them. Humans are driven by emotions, but we have a strong tendency to hide it, it's a self-defense mechanism. Not to show any sign of vulnerability.

I am in touch with human emotions, especially women's. When you can read a person as if it was a book, you happen to have in front of you a very fragile, vulnerable being. That my friends IS beauty. The way they move, walk or take a seat, the way they take a glass of water and hold it, the graciousness of their movements, the way they smile, the way they laugh, the way they look at you. If you pay attention to those small details, you have to be sensitive of course, you'll notice how beautiful even uglyness can be.

The moral of my post - pay attention attention to details, emotions are very visible, if you're in touch with yourself, you can read other's emotions and that to me is the most valuable gift in life. That's the way you fall in love. Looks are only secondary.

I feel luckily cursed to feel and see it from this perspective, because I'm still looking for the right girl.

You can only feel details. Bits and pieces which you didn't bother to put into words. And extreme moments you feel even if you don't want to. Put it together and you get the feel of the person.

http://www.2-brides.com/armenian-brides.html

Suggestions?

uremen... what would you say or think if one of your friends told you "i am with a much younger man" ???

is it ok to have a much younger boyfriend for armenians ?

maybe there are also some armenian mothers/fathers here in the forum who could also give their oppinion how the reaction would be if their son would one day come home and say "im with an older woman" ....

what you guys think about "we armenians should marry an armenian"?

Today i met a women she was very upset about her son's girlfriend it's just because she is russian.Is it right or wrong?...

Russia Today, Russia

Dec 16 2007

The zoo in the Armenian capital, Yerevan, has marked the wedding of two

elephants - Grand and Candy. Hundreds of guests attended the ceremony,

complete with traditional Indian dances.

The bride came all the way from Moscow. She was a star of Moscow's

Animal Theatre, but abandoned her career to be with the elephant

she loved.

New living quarters were built at the zoo especially for the newlyweds.

Watch the video http://www.russiatoday.ru/news/news/18565

I recently broke up with my boyfriend whom I've known for a year now.

We were planning to move in together and maybe even get married.

I thought I found the right person, but time and some circumstances showed that I was wrong.

For the past year, we've always been together and done things together. He was like my best friend, besides being my lover and I was very much used to him.

I guess I had my hopes up for nothing. I'm very sad that things didn't work out for us, and I'm sure that I'm going to feel the hurt for some time.

I've noticed from my past relationships, that it's not easy for me to get over someone I loved quickly. I become too attached to men that I date/love. I'm a student in university and I'm trying to do everything in my power so that my studies will not be affected by my situtation.

How can I get over him quickly? Everytime I come up with a "method" to do that, I start remembering all the great time we had together, especially when we were travelling together, and it makes me sad that things didn't work out. I have to point out that it was me who got fed up with some stuff, and it was me who broke off our present and future plans together.

What methods have you used to get over people you've loved before?

November 6, 2004

[English follows: translated exclusively for ANN/Groong]

Armenier wil trouwen met ontvoerd meisje(17)

van een onzer verslaggevers -

GRONINGEN - Een 17-jarig meisje uit Oost-Groningen, dat tegen haar

wil in een woning in Assen werd vastgehouden, is door de politie

bevrijd.

Vier Armeense mannen zijn gearresteerd. Het meisje was op klaarlichte

dag in de stad Groningen in een auto getrokken en meegenomen.

Omstanders hadden gezien dat het meisje zich verzette en om hulp

schreeuwde. Toen de politie arriveerde, was de auto al met hoge

snelheid weggereden.

Op straat werd een tasje aangetroffen met daarin de

identiteitspapieren van het meisje dat over zowel de Nederlandse als

Armeense nationaliteit beschikt.

De politie kwam de ontvoerders snel

op het spoor via het kenteken van de auto, dat door omstanders was

genoteerd. Enkele uren later werd het meisje in een woning in Assen

aangetroffen, waar ze werd bewaakt door een 19-jarige Armenier. Die

zei met het meisje te willen trouwen. Omdat in Armenie uithuwelijken

niet ongebruikelijk is, wordt de rol van de ouders van het meisje

onderzocht.

The English Translation:

An Armenian wants to marry a kidnapped girl (17)

by one of our reporters

GRONINGEN - A 17 year-old girl from East Groningen, who was detained

against her will, was set free by the police.

Four Armenian men have been arrested. Witnesses saw the screaming

girl being forced into a car and taken away at high speed.

A bag left at the scene established the girl's identity, who has both

the Armenian and Dutch nationality.

Witnesses who made a note of the car's registration plate, helped

police quickly solve this kidnapping. The girl was found at an

accommodation in the city of Assen, where a 19 year old Armenian was

guarding her. Apparently, the motive of this kidnapping is to

facilitate an arranged marriage.

I am Kakachik, been here long time but don't quite start many new topics. In any case, based on a recent personal experience of course, I started wondering about these "platonic friendships" between a man and a woman. Are we attracted to each other perhaps on an unconscious level but don't quite realize it on a conscious level? Are we playing games? Is it ok when a one of the partners starts developing feelings? How do one go from a "platonic relationship" to a real one? Is it possible? I know life's answers are way more complicated than my simple questions here but I would be more than happy to hear both male and female opinions. Cheers!

So far the only people that I have mostly heard this from are women. Women always like to claim that "love is all about compromise" or "relationships are all about compromise". I used to accept this as an unquestioned part of all relationships. The more I reflected, the more it made no sense to me, and eventually I had a moment of clarity.

This is far beyond the time of when men would play the god damned lute under their maiden's windows. This notion of compromise is a modern invention along with "sciences" that women love, such as psychology and sociology.

It's amazing how many women believe this and how many men do not question this. If anyone must compromise, then the other person gains. So when a person compromises, the odds are that he/she does not know himself/herself, nor what he/she wants, which is why he/she will settle for a compromise.

Think about it folks. How many of you right now sport this idea yourselves in your relationships or marriages? Take a cold heart look into your structural relations with your significant other and see if this is not the case, and if arguments do not result from this issue.

can we help him ???

MOvses

Here she is giving Henry Kissinger some advice on a broken heart.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v96/Anonymouse/HenryKissinger_MadeleineAlbright.jpg

And here she is smiling.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v96/Anonymouse/mka.jpg

She will now be taking your questions ladies and gentlemen, so if you have them, please post them, as she will respond. However, due to the fact that this may arouse confusion and suspicion, I am relinquishing my account entirely, to Madeline Albright now.

I entered this forum in hopes that all of you guys and girls would have a better perspective for me in my situation. I'm hoping someone can help me make sense of things and help heal a really really broken heart.

For the past 3 years, I have been in an interracial relationship with my boyfriend (who is of Armenian descent). I myself, am not Armenian, but of Asian descent. We recently broke up because of "irreconcilable issues" which to this day, I still do not know what they are.

In the beginning as all relationships are, everything was great and we were together for a good amount of time each week. As the years progressed, I met everyone except for the two people I should have met... the parents. I have always been open for him to attend my family functions etc.. but he always seemed put off by that fact.

As more time passed, I've been noticing that he always spent more time with his friends than he did with me. His friends even asked me why he doesn't bring me around and I really don't know what to say.

I got really nervous a month ago (the day we broke up) and I checked his email out of curiosity. I was shocked (but not too shocked) to see a bunch of emails referring to an Armenian dating site. He caught me in the act, but at the same time, I felt as if I caught him red handed too. I asked him about the site and he told me it was just something his friends said was cool to join... around a year ago! (that's how far the emails date back). He told me it wasn't his thing, but my point is, he wouldn't have made an entire profile up if he wasn't hoping to meet a new girlfriend of the same nationality.

I asked if he was happy and he said no... I asked why and he said he "didn't know." He said there are issues that can't be resolved and I asked him what issues... but he couldn't name anything specific- he said he just "knew". He said he wanted to take a break for now. So in the end of that night, I basically couldn't be with someone who didn't want to be with me.. someone who's dragged me along for too long if he really couldn't accept me for who I am.

I guess the whole point of the this story is, he tells me that he loves me for 3 years, but this happens. I know that he has never dated an Armenian girl before and I know there are certain levels that I do not know how to connect with him on, and he has that yearning to date his own culture. But I on the other hand, have dated my own culture and have had more problems in that relationship than I did in this one... I truly loved this person regardless of nationality and was open to communication- the whole nine yards. In the end, I ended up with this broken heart which I'm still trying to heal.. but it's only been a month since the breakup.

I understand that it is probably deeper to date someone in your own culture.. but doesn't true love count for anything anymore? Does anyone have words of wisdom for me?

Thank you!!!

anyone else as unfortunate in this "game" as I am?

I'll put down two entries only and the rest is free for all, even you Phantom.

Heeeeeeeeeere we Goooooooooooooo...........

10- About his sex life or Lifestyle

09- About his age, how he looks ten years younger

BTW Happy Valentine's Day to Everybody, especially to the Ladies of Hyeforum.