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By Mariam Badalyan &amp; Gayane Mkrtchyan</p><p>
ArmeniaNow reporters</p><p> </p><p>
Every morning 69-year-old Albert Khashkhashyan opens a small ramshackle booth to spend his day. He is not rushing to return home, as no one is happy for his return. It is eight years that he is rejected by his family.</p><p> </p><p>
“I have a large family, but there is no one waiting for me at home. The Jehovah’s Witnesses have destroyed my family,” says Khashkhashyan.</p><p> </p><p>
The Khashkhashyans live in a four-room apartment in a suburb of Yerevan. A construction engineer by training, Khashkhashyan headed the construction of five flour-mills in Iran in the 1980s. Those were happy days for a father of four children.</p><p> </p><p>
His life turned shambles in 1992 when his elder daughter, Elen, became a Jehovah’s Witness. Gradually, she was joined by her two sisters, brother and mother.</p><p> </p><p>
“My heart aches because of my children’s delusions,” says Khashkhashyan. “My daughters have forgotten about everything – education, career, leisure, marriage. They spend days attending religious gatherings and preaching. And my son refuses to serve in the army... I find my children lost for the society.”</p><p> </p><p>
Albert Khashkhashyan considers himself a victim of Jehovah’s Witnesses religious organization, or ‘sect’, as he calls it.</p><p> </p><p>
When Armenia gained independence in the 1990s, citizens also gained the right to explore “alternative” religions. Some, like Jehovah’s Witness (and including Mormons) are a striking departure from the traditional Christianity for which Armenia is famous. Contrary beliefs, habits, practices, dogma, are met not only with suspicion but with fear and intolerance by those who see the “sects” as a threat to the national religion – and the national character.</p><p> </p><p>
Currently, there are 56 religious organizations registered in Armenia. They represent 12 religious trends, out of which 8 are Christian confessions: Apostolic, Catholic, Russian Orthodox, Evangelical, Baptists, Adventists, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Pentecostals. Moonies and Mormons in Armenia are not registered as a religious organization.</p><p> </p><p>
Freedom of religion has become a hot topic in Armenia within the past year. In the fall of 2004 the registration of Jehovah’s Witnesses, a religious organization with 22,000 members in Armenia, which had been denied registration for more than ten years, was received differently.</p><p> </p><p>
Despite some discriminatory provisions in the new law on alternative service (link to Vahan’s story?) international organizations and some NGOs considered the registration of Jehovah’s Witnesses, a big step forward on the way towards establishment of a democratic society.</p><p> </p><p>
The same fact, however, aroused the frustration of many citizens and even some local NGOs. Numerous TV, radio programs, newspaper articles periodically highlight the problems of religious rights.</p><p> </p><p>
The Center for the Rehabilitation and Help to Victims of Decadent Sects NGO, the Association for the Protection of Individual and Family, as well as a public committee consisting of 44 youth organizations led by the Republican Party’s youth division find addressing the problem critical for society.</p><p> </p><p>
Currently, courts are considering seven complaints that relate to property disputes. People come alleging that a sectarian family member had sold a common property and gave the money to the organization he or she attends without considering the will of other family members. Albert Khashkhashyan has a similar claim against his wife, who sold an apartment belonging to the family, which Khashkashyan inherited from his grandmother. The wife, he says, gave most of the money to the Jehovah’s Witnesses organization.</p><p> </p><p>
“At stake is the Armenian statehood, physical and mental health of the society, unity of families,” declares the head of the Republican Party’s youth division and National Assembly member Armen Ashotyan.</p><p> </p><p>
“If a military dodger throws himself out of the balcony on the 8th floor and his parents, at the dismal scene of their boy’s smashed body, say it was Jehovah’s will, whose rights is the sect violating? Should the state ignore such kind of cases?” says lawyer Ruzanna Ter-Vardanyan, who currently is involved in a civil case dealing with a deprivation of maternity rights of a Jehovah’s Witness.</p><p> </p><p>
MP Ashotyan considers the religious provisions of the ‘sects’ that put mental and physical health of people at risk to be particularly dangerous. A doctor by training and occupation Ashotyan says he has witnessed numerous cases in hospitals when a patient is near death, but his family did not allow life-saving blood transfusion for religious reasons. (According to Jehovah’s Witnesses interpretation of the Bible, blood transfusion is a sin as it equals to the biblical ban “to eat meat with its blood”. Since 1961 when this interpretation was declared by Jehovah’s Witnesses, many members of their organization worldwide, including children, died. Recently, under external pressure they had to modify this doctrine and now allow blood transfusion, but it is allowed only among their members. )</p><p> </p><p>
According to Ashotyan many family arguments occur on the ground of religious “intolerance”, which weaken the society.</p><p> </p><p>
Head of Jehovah’s Witnesses religious organization Hrach Keshishyan denies all accusations: “How can a philosophy that preaches tolerance sow discord? I think the reasons are different, but people link them to the religion.</p><p> </p><p>
“Our name is often speculated upon,” he says. “But a Jehovah’s Witness neither steals, nor embezzles. Can there be a better patriotism than this?.”</p><p> </p><p>
“Often a woman’s husband is against her visits and there emerges the problem of the family’s destruction,” says pastor Karen Khachatryan. “In similar cases, we advise our members to preserve family peace and leave the church community. Since 2000 Karen is the founding Pastor of “Rema” Pentecostal Church.</p><p> </p><p>
Instead, Pastor Karen asserts, that their organization, like any other non-apostolic religious organization in Armenia, is discriminated against.</p><p> </p><p>
“If you periodically attend a gathering to read the Bible with a non-Apostolic group, you are a ‘sectarian’; people will point at you,” Pastor Karen says. “But if you attend the Apostolic church you are a Christian.”</p><p> </p><p>
Apostolic church priest Ghevond Mayilyan, the head of the Christian education center of the Holy See of St. Echmiadzin claims that religious organizations like Jehovah’s Witnesses or Rema, use suspicious methods to attract and keep members.</p><p> </p><p>
Pastor Khachatryan says his church preaches family values</p><p>
Pastor Khachatryan says his church preaches family values</p><p>
“They use the ‘bombardment of love’ to attract a person,” Fr. Ghevond says. “Treating a man with love and giving him/her social aid they tie him/her to themselves. Central bodies of many financially powerful totalitarian sects make large investments in Armenia for attracting even more members. What is it done for?.”</p><p> </p><p>
Hrach Keshishyan claims Jehovah’s Witnesses do not use methods other than the ones by the Apostolic church, which serve the same goal – to sow the best qualities in a person. Members of their organization are honest and law-abiding.</p><p> </p><p>
“The cultivation of externally safe and even praiseworthy qualities in a person contains grave risks,” MP Ashotyan is convinced. “Even the sectarian pastors themselves do not know why it is done. In reality it has one aim – to make the people governable. There is danger for the statehood, health of the society and unity of families.”</p><p> </p><p>
Armen Ashotyan thinks a well-coordinated approach is needed to make room for misunderstood beliefs.</p><p> </p><p>
“The state, church and society must struggle together,” he says.</p><p> </p><p>
Referent of the Department for Religion and National Minorities Affairs of the RA Government staff Vardan Astsatryan says the state should not become over involved in controlling the religious organizations. The society itself must be able to give its own assessments and fight with acceptable methods.</p><p> </p><p>
Astsatryan says that currently, the only control that the state has over religious organizations is through their registration, which would enable it to operate freely, for example rent premises, invite guests from abroad, publish newspapers, etc.</p><p> </p><p>
“Only by registering a religious organization we will bring it to the legislative field,” says Astsatryan. “And if it avoids registration, then it has something to hide.”</p><p> </p><p>
Despite the advantages offered by registration, there are organizations in Armenia, which prefer to stay out of the legislative field. According to the head of the Center for the Rehabilitation and Help to Victims of Decadent Sects Amaryan some 10 organizations including Satanists, Scientologists, Transcendentalists exist in Armenia, but are not registered.</p><p> </p><p>
“Try to find a person openly declaring he or she is a Satanist, whereas the place they gather in Yerevan is commonly known. Rituals of Satanists contain dangerous elements, there is no doubt they are anti-humane. Naturally, they will not get registered in Armenia,” says Amaryan. “Other trends such as scientologists or transcendentalists do not consider themselves to be a religion. However, their activities are related to the spiritual field and should be controlled as well.”</p><p> </p><p>
The state does not even count the number of members of religious organizations absolutely relying on the data submitted by religious organizations, which according to Astsatryan may be faked for different reasons.</p><p> </p><p>
“The number may be presented as large if the organization wants to get funds from abroad,” says Astsatryan. “And, on the contrary, it can be presented as small, if they feel pressured in the country.”</p><p> </p><p>
Nevertheless, Astsatryan thinks this approach is rather proportionate with the rights of the religious organizations.</p><p> </p><p>
Astsatryan admits, however, there are shortcomings in the legislation.</p><p> </p><p>
“Since in 1991 (when the Law on the Freedom of Conscience and Religious Organizations was adopted) the religious diversity was a new phenomenon for our society, it didn’t have time to give assessment to it,” Astsatryan explains.</p><p> </p><p>
One of the shortcomings of the current law according to Astsatryan is that although it foresees bans for violations, it does not give its legal consequences, that is, does not stipulate punishment for them (whether administrative or of other nature). In these cases a corresponding body – the prosecutor’s office, contents itself with only a warning.</p><p> </p><p>
Currently, a group of experts work on a new law, which involves members of NGOs and among them is the Helsinki Committee in Armenia.</p><p> </p><p>
The chairman of Helsinki Committee Avetik Ishkhanyan, finds that in the new law first of all the monopoly of the Armenian Apostolic church and discrimination towards other religious organizations must be abolished.</p><p> </p><p>
“There is no definition to the word proselytism,” Ishkhanyan says, “which is banned by the current law. The absence of definition leads to ambiguities, which for sure work not on the side of religious organizations other than the Apostolic church.”</p><p> </p><p>
Notwithstanding with what Ashotyan and Amaryan claim, Helsinki Committee, an international non-governmental organization in Armenia, claims that according to the complaints they receive, it is the religious organizations that mostly complain of rights violations.</p><p> </p><p>
The Helsinki Committee receives several serious complaints each year from religious organizations during a year. Among them are discriminations at workplace, humiliation during alternative service, beatings during preaching, and torture during forced military service.</p><p> </p><p>
However, although not excluding that serious violations by religious organizations might have taken place, the chairman says the Committee has received only one complaint against a religious organization so far.</p><p> </p><p>
“A man came saying that his wife – a Jehovah’s witness – has taken their children abroad,” Ishkhanyan recalls. “He blamed the religious organization for the breakup of the family. We were ready to help him, but he never came back again.”</p><p> </p><p>
Ishkhanyan says the field needs serious expertise and research.</p><p> </p><p>
“So far we have rumors and a couple of journalistic articles, but no serious research. Whereas, without an expert’s assessment there is a fear to appear with even more bans on the right to freedom of religion in the new law.”</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">12159</guid><pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2005 17:40:32 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Khachqar -=- Artsax -=-  Astvats Yes Qez Matagh</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/21896-khachqar-artsax-astvats-yes-qez-matagh/</link><description><![CDATA[<object width="445" height="364"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NZPs6oOgWE&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;color1=0x5d1719&amp;color2=0xcd311b&amp;border=1"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NZPs6oOgWE&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;color1=0x5d1719&amp;color2=0xcd311b&amp;border=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="445" height="364"></embed></object>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">21896</guid><pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:06:57 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Our Noah's Ark</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/25458-our-noahs-ark/</link><description><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><strong>Our Noah's Ark </strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman">The last prophecy letter by Michael </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman">This letter is dedicated to all Christians</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman">Our time here is getting short. Therefore, I've decided to construct one final outline of prophetic events. These prophetic events, which I've been writing about and debating for over two decades, are now heading towards a conclusion. Therefore, it is important that this letters purpose be understood. This letter is an interpretation and will move fairly fast with limited explanation. I hope it is understandable to all.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman">Since Christianity began, believers have always been taught to have faith. Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen, Hebrews 11:1. It has always been my thought that if the Bible was true faith would eventually become reality. In other words, prophecies that were written in a vague manner would start to become apparent and faith would become visible. An example of this would be Noah's Ark. If we could see the Ark upon a mountain then something we learned as faith would become a reality. Reality is one step higher than Faith. Short of seeing God, which we cannot do until we die, this is as good as it gets for a believer. Therefore, this is what I call, "Our Noah's Ark". Our Noah's Ark is prophecy fulfilled in plain view. This now becomes something seen, instead of faith in something unseen. Better said, some of the prophecies of Revelation are finally becoming discernible, which suggests a conclusion. The two most important items that must be derived from this narrative are as follows. If these prophecies which were written centuries ago are now happening, we know two things. One, that the author of those prophecies was God; and two, that the religion he brought was true. Therefore, all other religions are false. I'll say that again. There is only one God and he brought only one way to Heaven. Any other way must become false and will lead to the second death, which is the death of the soul. Let's get started. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman">Note: not all verses are exact quotes. Some are paraphrased.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><em><strong>Rev. 13:1 - The beast with seven heads and ten horns.</strong></em></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman">The seven heads are seven nations. The ten horns are ten kings. The beast is a group of nations that will wage war or the leader of those nations. Literally, it is Israel and the Muslim nations that surround her. This beast was born when Israel received her independence in 1948. This beast though, as stated in Rev. 13:1, is actually Israel at a specific time in her history. It denotes the Oslo Accords of 1993 and the beginning of land for peace. This agreement lasted seven years and ended in September 2000 with the start of the second intifada. This brings us to those three extra kings who the beast subdues in Daniel. These kings were Israeli Prime Ministers and all served during this seven year time frame. Arafat was known to have boasted that he affected the elections in Israel three times through terror. Daniel 9:27 says he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week. The covenant began with the agreement between Yasser Arafat and Prime Minister Rabin. It is also known as Daniel's 70th week. In Hebrew, the word many is written Rab. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><em><strong>Rev. 13:3- The beasts deadly head wound.</strong></em></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman">Head is a nation. It is similar to the heads of Rev 13:1, only singular. The beast's head (nation) was wounded in 1967 and is now being healed through the Oslo Accords.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><em><strong>Rev. 13:4- And they worshipped the dragon. Who is able to make war with him?</strong></em></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman">Islam is a false religion. The dragon is Satan. As long as they aren't worshipping Christ they are worshipping Satan. Who is able to make war with him refers to the difficulty of fighting a terrorist enemy. In other words, they are not really an army. A suicide bomber is almost impossible to defend against.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><em><strong>Rev. 13:5- he was able to continue 42 months.</strong></em></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman">Arafat continued for 42 months during the Oslo Accords before terror finally caused the Israelis to stop giving into his demands. The last 42 months of those seven years were not nearly as productive for him. This was during the term of Benjamin Netanyahu as Prime Minister from 1996 to 1999.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><em><strong>Rev. 13:7- power was given him over all kindreds and nations.</strong></em></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman">Arafat had power over all peoples of the Earth in the United Nations. All nations wanted Israel to give back lands won in the 1967 war. Votes in the U.N. are always one-sided in favor of the Palestinians.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><em><strong>Rev. 13:10- this is a parable. Those who lead into captivity will be taken captive. Those who kill with the sword shall be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and faith of the saints.</strong></em></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman">Translation- If you lead others to false Gods you will be taken captive by those Gods. If you kill with the sword, which the Lord is the two-edged sword or better said the Word of God , you will be killed with the sword. In other words, believers will be taken by the Lord. This is the faith of the saints.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><em><strong>Rev. 13:11- and I beheld another beast coming up out of the Earth, and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.</strong></em></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman">This second beast has two horns. The horns are kings. Therefore, this second beast is a country with two kings. This is the Palestinian Authority after Hamas was elected and brought into the Unity Government in 2006.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><em><strong>Rev. 13:12- And he exercises all the power of the first beast before him, and causes the earth and them which dwell therein, to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.</strong></em></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman">Hamas exercised all the power of the previous PA government because they were now an equal partner in the Government. Also, the leader of Hamas caused them to worship or honor the first beast (Mahmoud Abbas and the PA) because he would not honor the first beast. The first beast was the PA without Hamas as a member. The image of the beast is what the Government of Mahmoud Abbas represented. Verse 12 does not mention the image yet, we are just informed that he caused them to worship the first beast. Verse 14 and 15 gives the details of how that worshipping or honor was to commence. An image was created of the first beast that he (the false prophet) caused to be honored. This image of the beast is three items; the recognition of Israel, the honoring of all prior Palestinian agreements, and a renunciation of terror.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><em><strong>Rev. 13:13- "And he does great wonders, so that he makes fire come down from heaven on the Earth in the sight of men".</strong></em></span></span><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><em><span style="text-decoration:underline"> What is the great wonder that he does in the sight of men?????</span></em></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman">The answer is </span></span><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="color:Red">Hamas or Palestinian rocket fire on the cities of Sderot and Ashkelon. </span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><em><strong>Rev. 13:15- And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast, should be killed.</strong></em></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman">Hamas gave life unto the image of the beast. Why? Because Hamas would not honor the image themselves. In other words, if Hamas agreed with the image it would never have been an issue. It was born from their disagreement. Therefore, they gave it life. Another way to say it is they caused it to be or exist.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><em><strong>Rev. 13:16- "and he caused all both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond to receive a mark in their right hand or their foreheads:</strong></em></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><em><strong>Rev. 13:17- And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.</strong></em></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><em><strong>Rev.13:18- Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding, count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man, and his number is, six hundred threescore and six."</strong></em></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman">These last three verses all refer to the beast (Mahmoud Abbas). If you were to think of it as a time line, it drops back in time a few years. Verse 16 is the election of Mahmoud Abbas as the President of the PA Government after the death of Yasser Arafat. All voters received an indelible ink mark on their hands so they could not vote twice. This was the Mark. It says in verse 17 no one could buy and sell unless they had the mark, the name, or the number of the beast. The number of the beast happened on June 16, 2006. This was the date that a new program was established that allowed Mahmoud Abbas to receive funds to pay the salaries of his people. This program was called the Temporary International Mechanism. All salaries passed through the office of Mahmoud Abbas. Therefore, if you were a supporter of his and on his payroll you got paid. Hamas did not receive salaries. Hamas also did not receive the mark of Mahmoud Abbas. They boycotted the PA elections for President on Jan. 9, 2005. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman">I can't do much better than that. This is why this is my last letter. There is nothing more for me to say. Now all that's left is for the final war to start. I believe that will happen very soon. This is Our Noah's Ark. Michael aka Ephraim</span></span></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">25458</guid><pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 23:07:01 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>POPE FRANCIS HONORS ST. GREGORY OF NAREK, A REVERED ARMENIAN MYSTIC AN</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/69369-pope-francis-honors-st-gregory-of-narek-a-revered-armenian-mystic-an/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>POPE FRANCIS HONORS ST. GREGORY OF NAREK, A REVERED ARMENIAN MYSTIC AND POET<br><br>Huffington Post<br>Feb 23 2015<br><br>The Associated Press | By NICOLE WINFIELD<br><br>VATICAN CITY (AP) -- Pope Francis has given a gift of sorts to Armenian<br>Catholics commemorating the 100th anniversary of the massacre of<br>Armenians by Ottoman Turks, declaring a revered 10th-century mystic<br>and poet, St. Gregory of Narek, a doctor of the church.<br><br>The Vatican said Monday that Francis had agreed to bestow one of<br>the highest church honors on Gregory after the decision was taken by<br>the Vatican's saint-making office. The designation, however, clearly<br>reflects a desire of Francis, who as Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio<br>was particularly close to the Armenian community in Buenos Aires.<br><br>The title of doctor of the church is reserved for people whose writings<br>have greatly served the universal church. Only 35 people have been<br>given the title, including St. Augustine, St. Francis de Sales and<br>St. Teresa of Avila.<br><br>Gregory, who lived around 950 to 1005, is considered one of the<br>most important figures of medieval Armenian religious thought and<br>literature. His Book of Prayers, also called the Book of Lamentations,<br>is his best-known work, a mystical poem in 95 sections about "speaking<br>with God from the depths of the heart."<br><br>The designation comes a few weeks before Francis celebrates a Mass<br>in St. Peter's Basilica to commemorate the centenary of the start of<br>the Armenian massacre.<br><br>Several European countries recognize the massacres as a genocide;<br>Turkey, however, denies that the deaths constituted genocide, saying<br>the toll has been inflated and that those killed were victims of<br>civil war and unrest.<br><br>Francis provoked Turkish anxiety when in June 2013 he told a visiting<br>delegation of Armenian Christians that the massacre was "the first<br>genocide of the 20th century."<br><br>The Vatican spokesman subsequently said the remarks were in no way a<br>formal or public declaration and therefore didn't constitute a public<br>assertion by the pope that genocide took place.<br><br><a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/23/pope-francis-armenian-st-gregory_n_6735724.html" rel="external nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/23/pope-francis-armenian-st-gregory_n_6735724.html</a><br> </p><p> </p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">69369</guid><pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2015 18:04:59 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Bible that Survived the Genocide</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/76853-bible-that-survived-the-genocide/</link><description><![CDATA[<div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo" contenteditable="false">
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	<span dir="auto" style="border:0px; color:#131313; font-size:14px; padding:0px; text-align:start">In this video Collections Curator, Gary Lind-Sinanian walks through our Genocide exhibit to talk about one of the most precious objects from this exhibit. It is a bible from 1817 that was acquired from Syria and donated to the Museum by Arthur T. Grigorian. A shepherd's dog found it buried and after specialist Dr. Davit Ghazaryan from the Matenadaran saw it he was able to provide some us with further details. The “Treasures from Our Collection” video series is intended to share items from our collection that are not on display. It is sponsored by a generous donation from Michele Kolligian, President of the Museum’s Board of Trustees. Don't forget, membership supports our mission to share Armenia's history and culture with the world: </span><span dir="auto" style="border:0px; color:#065fd4; font-size:14px; padding:0px; text-align:start"><a force-new-state="true" href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqbTJhak1ucENyZUZtY2Z3TmFVeE1hVFZYZFMtZ3xBQ3Jtc0ttYXVITGFUNWdMLW1NYU1YSHVYVEtrSmxTd3pVWlVaLVRvX3lmYlJiOUU3VW9qVjdPYW96RU1CSTB4RGl2MFpqRV9pd3ZET1I1U0RQT2dTWXFFQl9qQklnWi05ZFpiN2Qzc2FMZHBuaEhOQUZQaXh4bw&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.armenianmuseum.org%2Fmembership&amp;v=GyUl8UAZxHU" rel="external nofollow" style="color:inherit" tabindex="0" target="_blank">https://www.armenianmuseum.org/member...</a></span>
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">76511</guid><pubDate>Fri, 23 Aug 2024 16:32:39 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Gospel of Shurishkan - Bible of Sharishkan</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/76383-gospel-of-shurishkan-bible-of-sharishkan/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>Շուրիշկանի Ավետարան<br><br>Gospel of Shurishkan - Bible of Sharishkan</p><p> </p><p><img alt="big_1428729413_1217750.JPG" src="https://c0.mediamax.am/datas/znews/big_1428729413_1217750.JPG"></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>History<br>It was written in 1498 in Aspisnak village, Kajberunik province of Van (322 sheets, 18 x 13 cm), pen: priest Barsegh [1] , commissioned by prince Turvanda. The Gospel is illustrated with 3 portraits ( Matthew , Mark and John and Prochorus), with border decorations, half-table-name pages. The cover is made of leather-bound cardboard with a silver bas-relief mirror, the lining is made of paper and silk.</p><p>In 1603-1604, the family of Ter Grigor, one of the forcibly displaced by Shah Abbas, moved the Gospel to Shurishkan village (hence the name) in Peria province of Persia, St. Barsegh Kesaratsi Monastery, where it remained for 370 years [2] . In 1971, the heirs of the Gospel, Nerses and Matevos Tsarukyan, repatriated and presented "Shurshkan's Gospel" to Matenadaran (hand. № 10599).</p><p>Every year since 2002, on the Sunday following Holy Easter, "Gospel of Shurishkan" is taken from Matenadaran to Saint Gevorg Church in Mughnu , so that the pilgrims can communicate with the miraculous power of the Gospel [</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Gospel of Shurishkan<br>Type: handwriting<br>date 1498<br>Item: parchment<br>For 10599<br>Collection Matenadaran<br>Location: Yerevan</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">76383</guid><pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2023 23:17:13 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Bible Of Charsanjak</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/76416-bible-of-charsanjak/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>Մատենադարանում է պահվում «Հրաշագործ» Չարսանջակի Ավետարանը</p><p>
Չարսանջակի Ավետարանն ընդօրինակվել է 1471 թ․ Երուսաղեմում, ապա տարվել է Արևմտյան Հայաստան և պահվել Չարսանջակ նահանգի Կոտառիչ գյուղի Սուրբ Գեւորգ եկեղեցում։ Բուժիչ հատկությունների և գերբնական զորության համար ձեռագիրը կոչվել է «հրաշազարդ», «հրաշագործ», «չարխափան»։ Արծաթյա կրկնակազմով, չորս ավետարանիչների ու Քրիստոսի խաչելությամբ պատկերված Ավետարանը աղոթքի առարկա էր ինչպես տարածաշրջանում ապրող քրիստոնյա հայերի, այնպես էլ այլադավանների համար:</p><p>
Բազմաթիվ ձեռագրերի նման, հետաքրքիր է նաև Չարսանջակի Ավետարանի փրկության պատմությունը։ Դադայանների ընտանիքը, որ հետագայում ընծայաբերեց Ավետարանը Մատենադարանին, ապրում էր Արեւմտյան Հայաստանի Լուսատարիչ գյուղում։ Երբ սկսվում է հայոց ցեղասպանությունը, տիկին Եղիսան հարսների և թոռների հետ գաղթում է Արեւելյան Հայաստան` Երևան, և սկսում է կամավոր աշխատել Երևանի հիվանդանոցներից մեկում։ Այնտեղ նա ծանոթանում է Չարսանջակ գյուղից գաղթած մի հիվանդի հետ։ Իմանալով իր վիճակի ծանրության մասին` հիվանդը տիկին Եղիսային է հանձնում Սուրբ Գևորգ եկեղեցուց բերված և փրկված Ավետարանը։ Հիվանդը, ցավոք, մահանում է, և Ավետարանը մնում է տիկին Եղիսայի մոտ։ Վերջինս գաղթում է Մարսել, ապա՝ ԱՄՆ, իր որդու՝ Հովհաննեսի մոտ։ Եղիսայի և Հովհաննեսի մահից հետո Հովհաննեսի կինը` Արաքսին, տեղափոխվում է Լոս Անջելես և իր հետ է տանում նաև Ավետարանը։ Արաքսիի մահից հետո նրա երեխաները՝ Հելեն և Հրայր Դադայանները, 2017 թ. միաձայն որոշում են կայացնում և սրբությամբ պահված Ավետարանը հանձնում են Մաշտոցյան Մատենադարանին։</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">76416</guid><pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2024 19:36:16 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Sourb Barsegh ( St. Blaise)</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/75867-sourb-barsegh-st-blaise/</link><description><![CDATA[
<p>Saint Blaise (Armenian: Սուրբ Բարսեղ, Sourb Barsegh<br><br><br>Armenian Saint Blaise (Sourb Barsegh)</p><div style="margin:0px 0px 20px;font-size:11px;color:rgb(170,170,170);font-family:Roboto;"><span style="margin:0px 10px 0px 0px;font-size:inherit;"><a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://www.peopleofar.com/author/admin/" title="Posts by admin" rel="external nofollow">ADMIN</a></span>  <span style="margin:0px 10px 0px 0px;font-size:inherit;"> DECEMBER 2, 2012</span><span style="margin:0px 10px 0px 0px;font-size:inherit;"> <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://www.peopleofar.com/tag/armenian-saint/" rel="external nofollow">ARMENIAN SAINT</a>, <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://www.peopleofar.com/tag/cult-of-saint-blaise/" rel="external nofollow">CULT OF SAINT BLAISE</a>, <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://www.peopleofar.com/tag/pan-bendito/" rel="external nofollow">PAN BENDITO</a>, <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://www.peopleofar.com/tag/patron-saint/" rel="external nofollow">PATRON SAINT</a>, <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://www.peopleofar.com/tag/patron-saint-of-physicians/" rel="external nofollow">PATRON SAINT OF PHYSICIANS</a>, <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://www.peopleofar.com/tag/saint-blaise/" rel="external nofollow">SAINT BLAISE</a>, <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://www.peopleofar.com/tag/san-blas/" rel="external nofollow">SAN BLAS</a>, <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://www.peopleofar.com/tag/sourb-barsegh/" rel="external nofollow">SOURB BARSEGH</a>, <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://www.peopleofar.com/tag/st-blaise/" rel="external nofollow">ST. BLAISE</a>, <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://www.peopleofar.com/tag/st-blaise-sticks/" rel="external nofollow">ST. BLAISE STICKS</a>, <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://www.peopleofar.com/tag/st-blaises-feast-day/" rel="external nofollow">ST. BLAISE’S FEAST DAY</a></span></div><p><img alt="st-blaise-glass-window-from-the-area-of-" src="https://i2.wp.com/www.peopleofar.com/wp-content/uploads/st-blaise-glass-window-from-the-area-of-soissons-picardy-france-early-13th-century.jpg?resize=261%2C306"><a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Blaise" title="Saint Blaise" rel="external nofollow"><span style="margin:0px;font-size:inherit;font-weight:700;">Saint Blaise</span></a><span style="color:rgb(104,104,104);font-family:Arimo;font-size:16px;"> 4th c. (Armenian : </span><b><i>Sourb Barsegh) </i></b><span style="color:rgb(104,104,104);font-family:Arimo;font-size:16px;">In Christian legend, bishop, patron saint of physicians, wax chandlers, and wool combers. Invoked against throat infections. Feast, 3 February.</span></p><p style="font-size:16px;color:rgb(104,104,104);font-family:Arimo;">Blaise was a physician before he became a bishop in Armenia. He studied philosophy in his youth, was a doctor in Sebaste in Armenia, the city of his birth, and exercised his art with miraculous ability, good-will, and piety. When the bishop of the city died, he was chosen to succeed him, with the acclamation of all the people. His holiness was manifest through many miracles: from all around, people came to him to find cures for their spirit and their body; even wild animals came in herds to receive his blessing. He suffered beheading after his flesh was torn with iron combs used for carding wool. One legend tells that while the bishop was in prison awaiting his martyrdom, he miraculously cured a little boy who nearly died because a fish </p><p style="font-size:16px;color:rgb(104,104,104);font-family:Arimo;">During the Middle Ages, St. Blaise was one of the most popular saints. In central Europe and in Latin countries people are still given pan bendito (St. Blaise sticks), which they eat when they have a sore throat. One of the most popular customs of the Roman church is the blessing of throats, held on St. Blaise’s feast day. A priest holds crossed candles against the head or throat of a person, saying: “Through the intercession of St. Blaise, bishop and martyr, may the Lord free you from evils of the throat and from any other evil.” In certain parts of Italy priests touch the throats with a wick that has been dipped into blessed oil. Throughout Europe many places and churches ware named after him. In Cornwall UK the village of St Blazey derives from his name, where the parish church is still dedicated to Saint Blaise. The council of Oxford in 1222 forbade all work on his festival. There is a St. Blaise’s Well in Bromley, Kent (UK) where the water was considered to have medicinal virtues. Many German churches, including the former Abbey of St. Blasius in the Black Forest and the church of Balve are dedicated to Saint Blaise/Blasius. In Italy he is known as San Biagio. In Spanish-speaking countries, he is known as San Blas, and has lent his name to many places (see San Blas).Saint Blaise’s remains rest at the Basilica over the town of Maratea (Italy), shipwrecked there during Leo III the Isaurian’s iconoclastic persecutions.</p><p style="font-size:16px;color:rgb(104,104,104);font-family:Arimo;"><a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://www.peopleofar.com/2012/12/02/saint-blaise/" rel="external nofollow">https://www.peopleofar.com/2012/12/02/saint-blaise/</a></p><p style="font-size:16px;color:rgb(104,104,104);font-family:Arimo;"> </p><p style="font-size:16px;color:rgb(104,104,104);font-family:Arimo;">Saint Blaise ~ Is celebrated ~ as a Saint ~ the world over ~ it seems ~ there is even a ~ there is even a ~ High School ~ in Mumbai ~ Churches named for him in Europe ~ had my throat blessed in here in the U.S. on St. Blaise day in Catholic Church ~ but until today ~ I had no idea ~ St. Blaise is our very own Sourb Barsegh ~ in the ~  Armenian Orthodox Church ``` </p><p style="font-size:16px;color:rgb(104,104,104);font-family:Arimo;">Did you ```</p><p style="font-size:16px;color:rgb(104,104,104);font-family:Arimo;"> </p><p style="font-size:16px;color:rgb(104,104,104);font-family:Arimo;"><img alt="300px-StBlasDom.jpg" src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/StBlasDom.jpg/300px-StBlasDom.jpg"></p><p style="font-size:16px;color:rgb(104,104,104);font-family:Arimo;">Saint Blaise Abby Black Forest ```</p><p style="font-size:16px;color:rgb(104,104,104);font-family:Arimo;">He Sourb Barsegh is the Patron Saint in many countries ``` Take time to look for him ```</p><p><a class="ipsAttachLink ipsAttachLink_image" href="https://hyeforum.com/uploads/monthly_04_2018/post-11145-0-50331600-1523317401.jpg" data-fileid="4898" data-fileext="jpg" rel=""><img data-fileid="4898" class="ipsImage ipsImage_thumbnailed" alt="St. Blaise.jpg" src="https://hyeforum.com/uploads/monthly_04_2018/post-11145-0-50331600-1523317401_thumb.jpg"></a></p>
]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">75867</guid><pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2018 23:57:02 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Sangibar Bible</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/76382-sangibar-bible/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>Սանգիբարանի Ավետարանը Ս. Շողակաթ վանք բերվեց Ս. Հովհաննես Մկրտչի և Հոբ Արդարի հիշատակության տոնին</p><p> </p><p><img alt="big_1429105499_9807599.jpg" src="https://c0.mediamax.am/datas/znews/big_1429105499_9807599.jpg"><br><br> </p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">76382</guid><pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2023 22:56:08 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Շնորհավոր &#1357]]></title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/76312-%D5%B7%D5%B6%D5%B8%D6%80%D5%B0%D5%A1%D5%BE%D5%B8%D6%80-1357/</link><description><![CDATA[<p><span class="ipsEmoji">🙏</span><strong><span style="font-size:18px;"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Քրիստոս Ծնավ և Հայտնեցավ</span></span></strong> <span class="ipsEmoji">🙏</span><br><br><br><img alt="271300851_2155738951268949_3732406082559" src="https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/271300851_2155738951268949_3732406082559707200_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&amp;ccb=1-5&amp;_nc_sid=730e14&amp;_nc_ohc=qlUAnC07PUsAX_sjdK3&amp;_nc_ht=scontent-sjc3-1.xx&amp;oh=00_AT9AiOHg5sGSQaSKlWI5NRki1kwmwWMc0C5DWHV2v2KWXw&amp;oe=61DA8EE4"><br><span class="ipsEmoji">🙏</span>Թող որ Հիսուս Քրիստոսի սիրով լուսավորի  մեր բոլորի օջախները և սրտերը <span class="ipsEmoji">🙏</span><br><strong><span style="font-size:18px;">Շնորհավոր Սուրբ Ծնունդը✞Մեզի ձեզի Մեծ Ավետիս</span></strong></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">76312</guid><pubDate>Wed, 05 Jan 2022 17:49:29 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Armenians and the Holy Land</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/76314-armenians-and-the-holy-land/</link><description><![CDATA[<div style="margin:0px auto;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(240,242,246);"><div style="margin:0px auto;">	Armenians in the Holy Land<div><span style="text-align:justify;"></span></div></div><div> </div></div><div style="margin:auto;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(240,242,246);">	<a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="http://anushbabajanyan.org/" rel="external nofollow"><span style="font-weight:bolder;">Anush Babajanyan</span></a><p style="margin:16px auto;font-size:18px;">I stayed well into a night at the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem together with a friend. It was the Armenians’ turn to clean the tomb of Jesus. We watched the small groups clean the top of this tomb with care, refill the oil of lamps that burn over it. Priests did it with a certain habit, pilgrims did it with awe and tears. It looked like an incredibly special moment for these people to simply clean their part of the church, on this piece of land where it is believed that Jesus was crucified and buried.</p><p style="margin:16px auto;font-size:18px;">A small nation with a large diaspora, Armenians share ownership of some of the most valued sites of Christian heritage in Jerusalem, Bethlehem and other locations in the area. Some of such sites are the Holy Sepulcher, St. James Cathedral, the Church of the Nativity, and the Tomb of St. Mary. Armenians are one of the Christian groups with the largest share, together with the Catholics, Orthodox Greeks, and the Coptic. An agreement of Status Quo, initiated by the Ottoman Empire in 1852, sustains the relationships and actions between these and more groups.</p><div style="margin:16px auto;"> </div><div style="margin:16px auto;"> </div><p style="margin:16px auto;font-size:18px;">Armenians have lived in Jerusalem’s Armenian Quarter for centuries. Unlike many other places around the world, they did not come here only after the 1915 Genocide, they had lived here long before. According to several historical accounts, they began settling here in the 4th century after officially converting to Christianity. The Armenian Quarter occupies one sixth of the area of Old City Jerusalem</p><p style="margin:16px auto;font-size:18px;">Read More:<a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://hetq.am/en/article/86392" rel="external nofollow">https://hetq.am/en/article/86392</a></p></div><p> </p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">76314</guid><pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2022 01:58:57 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Fr. Hovagimian of Vienna Mekhitarists Interviewed</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/67626-fr-hovagimian-of-vienna-mekhitarists-interviewed/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>Fr. Hovagimian of Vienna Mekhitarists Interviewed<br><br>Reporter, 17 December 2014<br><br><br>For nearly 250 years the Mekhitarian/Mekhistarist Monastery of Vienna<br>has retained its status as one of the spiritual and cultural pillars<br>of the Armenian Diaspora. It was established in 1773, after a group of<br>monks separated from the mother Venice congregation to Trieste. In<br>1810 the congregation moved again, this time to Vienna, when Emperor<br>Francis I of Austria provided them with refuge in an abandoned<br>Capucine abbey in the St. Ulrich suburb of the city.<br><br>The monastery includes a church, museum, library, and school. The<br>library has the largest and the oldest collection of Armenian<br>newspapers: some 170,000 volumes. The museum has one of the most<br>significant Armenian coin collections, the oldest dating from the 4th<br>century B.C. It also has ancient tapestries, ceramics, maps, a huge<br>globe of the world, old Armenian silver works, Bibles, paintings by<br>Naghash Hovnatan and Aivazovsky, and cartoons by Saroukhan. Its 2,600<br>illuminated manuscript collection is the third-largest after that of<br>Armenia and Jerusalem. The library also has an estimated 500,000<br>books. The street where the monastery is located is called<br>Mechitaristengasse. It's in the 7th district of Vienna.<br><br>The Mekhitarist congregation was founded by Mekhitar Sebastatsi in<br>Constantinople in 1701 and after a short stay in the Peloponnesians,<br>established itself in the San Lazzaro island in Venice.<br><br>Keghart.com interviewed Father Vahan Hovagimian, the head of the<br>Vienna monastery, in late fall.<br><br>Keghart: Tell us about yourself, Father Hovagimian.<br><br>Father Hovagimian: I was born in Kamishle, Syria in 1958. I lived in<br>Lebanon and came to Vienna in 1972 to continue my schooling and to<br>study at the university. I was ordained priest in 1984. I am in charge<br>of the parish, the library and the museum. My title is "Hiurungal<br>Vartabed"-- guest priest, custodian.<br><br>Keghart: How many priests are there in the monastery?<br><br>FH: We have six priests here and 18 in other countries.<br><br>Keghart: What's the focus of the Mekhitarist mission?<br><br>FH: Our motto is "Ora e labors" ("prayers and work"). Praying in<br>community and working together. In addition to spiritual work, we<br>are--as always--occupied with education/schools, parish work, research,<br>and publishing.<br><br>Keghart: How many students do you have here?<br><br>FH: In 2000 we had 380 students. We now have almost 30. Our student<br>numbers shrank because of the availability of many schools around us.<br>The glory days of our school were from the post-WWII years until the<br>'60s.<br><br>Keghart: How are your relations with the local municipality?<br><br>FH: We have good relations with the municipality and with the state.<br>They support us when we ask for their financial help. When we ask for<br>help, say, for renovations, they help us, but only when the cost is<br>too high. They pay one-third of the cost. The monastery also has<br>private buildings and receives monthly rents from these buildings.<br><br>Keghart: I understand you have another source of revenues...liqueur production.<br><br>FH: We produce six types of very popular Mechitharine liqueurs. They<br>are generally speaking stomach-friendly beverages which are based on<br>ancient recipes our Founder Mekhitar Sebastatsi brought with him to<br>Europe. One of them is good for the heart. Others are for diabetics or<br>for people with stomach problems. We also have an appetizing bitter.<br>They come in .70L (22 Euros) and .35L (13 Euros).<br><br>Keghart: There are about 4,000 Armenians in Vienna, many of them<br>recent immigrants from Armenia. Can you talk about the community?<br><br>FH: For years our community had about 3,500 people, almost all from<br>Bulgaria, Hungary, Turkey, Lebanon, and Iran. In the past ten years<br>immigrants--mostly from Armenia, Azerbaijan and Syria--have joined the<br>community. I don't have exact population figures, but it's safe to say<br>that the number of the newcomers is 4,000.<br><br>Keghart: Can you tell us about Mekhitarian's great tradition of<br>research and publishing?<br><br>FH: We publish four to five books a year. Recent publications include<br>"Symposion, 200 Jahre Mechitharisten in Wien" and of course "Hantes<br>Amsoria 2014" and the "National Library Series" which started in 1889<br>and so far contain 227 volumes. We also continue with the "Studies of<br>the Armenian History" series. We sell "Hantes Amsoria" around the<br>world, including in Armenia. "Hantes Amsoria" and other journals can<br>be obtained through subscription.<br><br>Keghart: Considering your vast library of books and publications, do<br>Armenian and non-Armenian scholars utilize them for their research?<br><br>FH: The library is open to all--to "odars" and particularly to Armenians.<br><br>Keghart: How many visitors/tourists stop by the monastery every year?<br><br>FH: We get more than 3,000 visitors a year; almost 1,000 Armenian.<br><br>Keghart: Is it true that the Nazis occupied the monastery as their<br>offices during WWII? If yes, what did the monks do?<br><br>FH: I know that our monastery was used in the WWII as headquarters for<br>Marines. The monks went to the Middle East. The monastery treasures<br>and books were hidden in the basement of the monastery.<br><br>Keghart: Is the Mekhitarian Brotherhood growing?<br><br>FH: For three weeks recently I was in Venice, in our main mother<br>monastery at St. Lazzaro. We had the ordination of two young deacons.<br>We hope that in 2015 they can become priests. Two days after the<br>ordination of the deacons, four youngsters made their vows, to devote<br>their lives to God and to the Armenian Nation.<br><br><a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="http://www.keghart.com/Report-Vienna-Mekhitarians" rel="external nofollow">http://www.keghart.com/Report-Vienna-Mekhitarians</a><br> </p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">67626</guid><pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2014 15:48:26 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Turkey's Tradition of Murdering Christians</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/75048-turkeys-tradition-of-murdering-christians/</link><description><![CDATA[<p><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:medium;background-color:rgb(238,238,238);">Gatestone Institute</span><br><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:medium;background-color:rgb(238,238,238);">July 30 2016</span></p><br><br><br><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:medium;background-color:rgb(238,238,238);">	Turkey's Tradition of Murdering Christians<div><p><b>by <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.gatestoneinstitute.org_author_Robert-2BJones&amp;d=DQMFaQ&amp;c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&amp;r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&amp;m=eqb1sJhzu2G_ZXe0_BTZ9m5Lg1V2PGbke6ZBheKklYQ&amp;s=n8iZgDGYtJF2A8TeNL5G3rs1wF8lBhfpHpwxi7_WF7U&amp;e=" rel="external nofollow">Robert Jones</a><br>July 31, 2016 at 5:00 am</b></p></div></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:medium;background-color:rgb(238,238,238);"><div><ul><li><p>Turkey's countless agreements with Western organizations do not seem to have reduced the hatred for Christians there.</p></li><li><p>In Turkey, it is "ordinary people" who murder or attack Christians, then the judiciary or political system somehow find a way of enabling the perpetrators to get away with the crimes. Most of these crimes are not covered by the international media and Turkey is never held responsible.</p></li><li><p>While Muslims are pretty much free to practice their religion and express their views on other religions anywhere in the world, Christians and other non-Muslims can be killed in Turkey and other Muslim-majority countries just for attempting peacefully to practice their religion or openly express their views.</p></li><li><p>"Multiculturalism," which is passionately defended by many liberals in the West, could have worked wonders in multi-ethnic and multi-religious places such as Anatolia. But unfortunately, Islamic ideology allows only one culture, one religion, and one way of thinking under their rule: Islam. Ironically, this is the central fact these liberals do not want to see.</p></li></ul></div><div><p>On 26 July, the northern French town of Saint-Étienne-du-Rouvray witnessed a horrific <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.gatestoneinstitute.org_8576_europe-2Dislam-2Dkneel&amp;d=DQMFaQ&amp;c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&amp;r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&amp;m=eqb1sJhzu2G_ZXe0_BTZ9m5Lg1V2PGbke6ZBheKklYQ&amp;s=Lw7yox5hwiX9RaI6DqyAWoayZtKH1vUOnFySwNNh4Fw&amp;e=" rel="external nofollow">Islamist attack</a>: Two Islamic State (ISIS) terrorists killed an 85-year-old priest, Jacques Hamel, in his church during Mass. Two nuns and two churchgoers were taken hostage.</p><p>The terrorists, who had pledged allegiance to ISIS and, shouting "Allahu Akbar", slit the throat of the priest and captured the bloody episode on video, according to a nun who escaped the assault.</p><p>Such Islamist attacks might be new to EU member countries but not to Turkey. For decades, so many innocent, defenseless Christians in Turkey have been slaughtered by Muslim assailants.</p><p>Christians in Turkey are still attacked, murdered or threatened daily; the assailants usually get away with their crimes.</p><p>In Malatya, in 2007, during the <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.istpcf.org_home_in-2Dmemoriam_&amp;d=DQMFaQ&amp;c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&amp;r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&amp;m=eqb1sJhzu2G_ZXe0_BTZ9m5Lg1V2PGbke6ZBheKklYQ&amp;s=IaYwl6qzXAybIJnFTPRB8GAhnozp44lwpKKNGI3dO-8&amp;e=" rel="external nofollow">Zirve Bible Publishing House massacre</a>, three Christian employees were attacked, severely tortured, then had their hands and feet tied and their throats cut by five Muslims on April 18, 2007.</p><p>Nine years have passed, but there still has been no justice for the families of the three men who were murdered so savagely.</p><p>First, the five suspects who were still in detention were <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.hurriyetdailynews.com_conditional-2Drelease-2Dof-2D5-2Dsuspects-2Dof-2Dmissionary-2Dmurders-2Dprovokes-2Dstrong-2Dreactions.aspx-3FpageID-3D238-26nID-3D63386-26NewsCatID-3D339&amp;d=DQMFaQ&amp;c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&amp;r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&amp;m=eqb1sJhzu2G_ZXe0_BTZ9m5Lg1V2PGbke6ZBheKklYQ&amp;s=UKZ5Pf2Khs_tk2ablWAizG4wLs3LkCl63u0pqsCXVqI&amp;e=" rel="external nofollow">released</a> from their high-security prison by a Turkish court, which ruled that their detention exceeded newly-adopted legal limits.</p><p>The trial is still ongoing. The prosecutor <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__t24.com.tr_haber_savcilik-2Dzirve-2Dyayinevi-2Dkatliaminin-2Dteror-2Deylemi-2Dsaymadi-2Dfailler-2D36-2Dyildan-2Dsonra-2Dtahliye-2Dedilebilir-2C335392&amp;d=DQMFaQ&amp;c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&amp;r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&amp;m=eqb1sJhzu2G_ZXe0_BTZ9m5Lg1V2PGbke6ZBheKklYQ&amp;s=sCuGO3bI3W2AzK837_DXjyhq0OGUKe8xva-FoyJfTIA&amp;e=" rel="external nofollow">claims</a> that the act "was not a terrorist act because the perpetrators did not have a hierarchic bond, their act was not continuous and the knives they used in the massacre did not technically suffice to make the act be regarded as a terrorist act."</p><p>If the court accepts this legal opinion of the prosecutor, it could pave the way for an acquittal. However, given the many "mysterious" rulings of the Turkish judiciary system to acquit criminals, these killers could also be acquitted by a "surprise" ruling any time.</p><p>Ironically, Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdogan <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.bbc.com_news_world-2Deurope-2D35807987&amp;d=DQMFaQ&amp;c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&amp;r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&amp;m=eqb1sJhzu2G_ZXe0_BTZ9m5Lg1V2PGbke6ZBheKklYQ&amp;s=rWAGj4N4VazOJzuwOGivgUL-AvGpjAHz9I-bN6TA8bM&amp;e=" rel="external nofollow">said in March</a> that it is necessary to redefine terrorism to include those who support such acts, adding that they could be journalists, lawmakers or activists. There was no difference, he said, between "a terrorist holding a gun or a bomb and those who use their position and pen to serve the aims" of terrorists.</p><p>In a country where state authorities are outspokenly so "sensitive" about "terrorism" and "people holding guns," why are the murderers of Christians not in jail, and why is the prosecutor trying to portray the murders of Christians as "non-terroristic acts"?</p><p>Sadly, the three Christians in Malatya were neither the first nor the last Christians to be murdered in Turkey.</p><p>On February 5, 2006, Father Andrea Santoro, a 61-year-old Roman Catholic priest, was murdered in the Santa Maria Church in the province of Trabzon. He was <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__uk.reuters.com_article_uk-2Dturkey-2Dpriest-2DidUKL0454885220071004&amp;d=DQMFaQ&amp;c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&amp;r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&amp;m=eqb1sJhzu2G_ZXe0_BTZ9m5Lg1V2PGbke6ZBheKklYQ&amp;s=CVrL23voRLnVTOCRs5hiYkG-c-3b7MbNU_gPLXdvYvc&amp;e=" rel="external nofollow">shot while kneeling</a> in prayer at his church. Witnesses heard the 16-year-old murderer shout "Allahu Akbar" ("Allah is the Greatest") during the murder.</p><p>After the murder, a 74-year-old priest, Father Pierre François René Brunissen, from Samsun, led the next church service in Santoro's church, which boasted barely a dozen members. Because no one volunteered to replace Santoro, Father Pierre was <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.spiegel.de_international_spiegel_trouble-2Din-2Dturkey-2Dfear-2Dprevails-2Dafter-2Dpriest-2Ds-2Dmurder-2Da-2D411043.html&amp;d=DQMFaQ&amp;c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&amp;r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&amp;m=eqb1sJhzu2G_ZXe0_BTZ9m5Lg1V2PGbke6ZBheKklYQ&amp;s=tmUEw9JuENx--79_3TOms3lGKXk8DIdTxH0v0tByu8k&amp;e=" rel="external nofollow">instructed to travel</a> from Samsun to Trabzon each month to care for the city's small congregation.</p><p>"This is a terrible incident," Father Pierre <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.hurriyet.com.tr_samsun-2Ditalyan-2Dkatolik-2Dkilisesi-2Dpapazi-2Dendiseliyim-2D3896203&amp;d=DQMFaQ&amp;c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&amp;r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&amp;m=eqb1sJhzu2G_ZXe0_BTZ9m5Lg1V2PGbke6ZBheKklYQ&amp;s=Ug6XYgQC4LUfwvyXCmLZGi78DOiqeSIJVdo_x-DzthA&amp;e=" rel="external nofollow">said</a>. "It is a sin to kill a person. After all of these incidents, I am worried about my life here."</p><p>In July, 2006, he was <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__arsiv.sabah.com.tr_2006_07_04_gun146.html&amp;d=DQMFaQ&amp;c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&amp;r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&amp;m=eqb1sJhzu2G_ZXe0_BTZ9m5Lg1V2PGbke6ZBheKklYQ&amp;s=Nsf8I9ReW4j98mJ1JF3V5XDZ4SjX1EHoylgnfX8SH8M&amp;e=" rel="external nofollow">stabbed and wounded</a> by a Muslim in Samsun. The perpetrator, 53, said that he stabbed the priest to oppose "his missionary activities."<a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.gatestoneinstitute.org_8577_turkey-2Dchristians-2Dmurders-23-5Fftn1&amp;d=DQMFaQ&amp;c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&amp;r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&amp;m=eqb1sJhzu2G_ZXe0_BTZ9m5Lg1V2PGbke6ZBheKklYQ&amp;s=LdTJT7plApZa13t-PuTuXsnenU0c5UqldxJ-ytvpmww&amp;e=" rel="external nofollow">[1]</a></p><p>The attacks against the Christian culture in Anatolia continue in modern times -- even after Turkey joined the Council of Europe in 1949 and NATO in 1952.</p><p>Turkey's countless agreements with Western organizations do not seem to have reduced the hatred for Christians there. In March, 2007, as the Christian community of Mersin was preparing for the Easter, a young Muslim man with a kebab knife entered the church and <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.radikal.com.tr_turkiye_protestanlar-2Dtehdit-2Dcok-2D811986_&amp;d=DQMFaQ&amp;c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&amp;r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&amp;m=eqb1sJhzu2G_ZXe0_BTZ9m5Lg1V2PGbke6ZBheKklYQ&amp;s=G3-yjnv2rtCdk0TZNRGxeaGvhuXUMo5FFQiJjYSEwnE&amp;e=" rel="external nofollow">attacked</a> the priests, Roberto Ferrari and Henry Leylek.</p><p><a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.pilgrimageturkey.com_st-2Dpaul-2Din-2Dmersin.php&amp;d=DQMFaQ&amp;c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&amp;r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&amp;m=eqb1sJhzu2G_ZXe0_BTZ9m5Lg1V2PGbke6ZBheKklYQ&amp;s=Ocj7MDi6YLrBqEIkmYLLh_IG13rMTtUhwIODceIQoBA&amp;e=" rel="external nofollow">Mersin</a>, in southern Turkey, is home to Tarsus, the birthplace of Saint Paul, and to several churches dating from the earliest Christian era.</p><p>As the Christian roots of Anatolia weakened, so did its bonds with Western civilization. "The attack against the priest is an indicator that Ankara is not ready for Europe," a Roman Catholic Cardinal and theologian, Walter Kasper, <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.cihan.com.tr_tr_kardinal-2Dkasper-2Dturkiye-2Davrupa-2Dicin-2Dhazir-2Ddegil-2D491447.htm&amp;d=DQMFaQ&amp;c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&amp;r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&amp;m=eqb1sJhzu2G_ZXe0_BTZ9m5Lg1V2PGbke6ZBheKklYQ&amp;s=02BO0EbMVGIxMiAn5008gGO-Jjnb5uap_5UTfxCnvdo&amp;e=" rel="external nofollow">told</a> the Italian newspaper, <i>Corriere della Sera</i>. "There is some amount of tolerance but there is not real freedom. Turkey has to change many things. This change is not about laws. A change of mentality is needed. But you cannot change mentality in one day."</p><p>Bishop Luigi Padovese, Apostolic Vicar of Anatolia, <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.radikal.com.tr_haber.php-3Fhaberno-3D191981&amp;d=DQMFaQ&amp;c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&amp;r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&amp;m=eqb1sJhzu2G_ZXe0_BTZ9m5Lg1V2PGbke6ZBheKklYQ&amp;s=aLoUqXwEPzXzg1FLslWmTzrrAs9IuSl-cWXmdBywBKg&amp;e=" rel="external nofollow">said</a>: "We do not feel safe. I am very worried. Fanaticism is developing in some groups. Some people want to poison the atmosphere and catholic priests are targeted. Anti-missionary films are broadcast on TV channels."</p><p>At a commemorative ceremony for Father Santoro in February, Bishop Padovese <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.milliyet.com.tr_iskenderun-2Dda-2Dhiristiyan-2Ddin-2Dadami-2Dolduruldu_gundem_gundemdetay_03.06.2010_1246209_default.htm&amp;d=DQMFaQ&amp;c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&amp;r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&amp;m=eqb1sJhzu2G_ZXe0_BTZ9m5Lg1V2PGbke6ZBheKklYQ&amp;s=oqauj7e0_czgLylJ_E0-VZJhMOVGQU55ZxXWApknAgA&amp;e=" rel="external nofollow">said</a>:</p><p><div style="margin-left:25px">"Today, we are asking the question we asked four years ago: Why? We are also asking the same question for all other victims so unjustly murdered even though they were innocent. Why? What was it that they tried to destroy by murdering Father Andrea? Just a person or what that person represented? The aim of shooting Father Andrea was definitely to shoot a Catholic cleric. His being a Father became the reason of his martyrdom.</div></p><p><div style="margin-left:25px">"The message of Christ on the cross is clear. 'Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do.' Had they known, they would not have done that. It is wrong to extinguish a life to uphold an idea. It is wrong to think that a person who disagrees with us is at fault and should be destroyed. This is the fundamentalism that crumbles a society. For it wrecks coexistence. This fundamentalism -- regardless of what religion or political view it belongs to -- might win a few battles but it is doomed to lose the war. This is what history teaches us. I hope that this city and this country will turn into a place where people can live as brothers and sisters and unite for the common good for all. Is the Allah of all of us not the same?"</div></p><p></p><p>No, unfortunately, the Allah of all of us is not the same.</p><p>Just four months later, in June, 2010, it was Padovese's turn to be <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.hurriyet.com.tr_piskopos-2Dcinayeti-2Dzanlisi-2Dtutuklandi-2D14930010&amp;d=DQMFaQ&amp;c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&amp;r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&amp;m=eqb1sJhzu2G_ZXe0_BTZ9m5Lg1V2PGbke6ZBheKklYQ&amp;s=Xx-3n24HzgLhvhhlTNrWmazg9vNp-PytIjN6CGszFMY&amp;e=" rel="external nofollow">murdered</a>. This time the murderer was the Bishop's own driver for the previous four years. The driver first stabbed the bishop, then cut his throat, while shouting "Allahu Akbar" during the attack.</p><p>At the <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.hurriyet.com.tr_piskopos-2Dcinayeti-2Dzanlisi-2Dtutuklandi-2D14930010&amp;d=DQMFaQ&amp;c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&amp;r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&amp;m=eqb1sJhzu2G_ZXe0_BTZ9m5Lg1V2PGbke6ZBheKklYQ&amp;s=Xx-3n24HzgLhvhhlTNrWmazg9vNp-PytIjN6CGszFMY&amp;e=" rel="external nofollow">trial</a>, the driver said that the bishop was "<i>Masih ad-Dajjal</i>" ("the false messiah"), then twice in the courtroom he loudly recited the <i>adhan</i> (Islamic call to worship).</p><p> </p>				<img height="392" width="600" alt="1737.jpg" src="https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/pics/1737.jpg"><p style="margin:4px 6px;font-size:13.12px;">Father Andrea Santoro (left), a 61-year-old Roman Catholic priest, and 63-year-old Bishop Luigi Padovese (right), Apostolic Vicar of Anatolia, were two Christian priests murdered in Turkey in recent years.</p>					<p> </p><p>In the territory where Christians once thrived, even converting to Christianity now creates serious problems.</p><p>"New Christians coming from Muslim families are often isolated and ostracized," <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.christianitytoday.com_ct_2008_january_12.25.html&amp;d=DQMFaQ&amp;c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&amp;r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&amp;m=eqb1sJhzu2G_ZXe0_BTZ9m5Lg1V2PGbke6ZBheKklYQ&amp;s=0Z1ymDO5vBPWLN4KhEFz0RMaYvjN49dTFy2yFLYdIZ4&amp;e=" rel="external nofollow">writes Carnes</a>. "Turgay Ucal, a pastor of an independent church in Istanbul, who converted from Islam to Christianity said: "Buddhism is okay, but not Christianity. There was a history."</p><p>And this history includes how indigenous Christians in Anatolia have been slaughtered by Muslims. <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.gatestoneinstitute.org_8577_turkey-2Dchristians-2Dmurders-23-5Fftn2&amp;d=DQMFaQ&amp;c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&amp;r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&amp;m=eqb1sJhzu2G_ZXe0_BTZ9m5Lg1V2PGbke6ZBheKklYQ&amp;s=ezgfUOgDXnrUdn9P2mSiXWWn4R-klsAQnTlJU7UQCXA&amp;e=" rel="external nofollow">[2]</a></p><p>The total <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.cia.gov_library_publications_the-2Dworld-2Dfactbook_fields_2122.html&amp;d=DQMFaQ&amp;c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&amp;r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&amp;m=eqb1sJhzu2G_ZXe0_BTZ9m5Lg1V2PGbke6ZBheKklYQ&amp;s=UFUcIbFlJmy9bo4SuLRLc6WoY2civagHNOkTS5J0Wks&amp;e=" rel="external nofollow">population of Turkey</a> is about 80 million; believers of non-Muslim faiths -- mostly Christians and Jews -- comprise 0.2%. Nevertheless, anti-Christian sentiment is still prevalent in much of the Turkish society. <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.gatestoneinstitute.org_8577_turkey-2Dchristians-2Dmurders-23-5Fftn3&amp;d=DQMFaQ&amp;c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&amp;r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&amp;m=eqb1sJhzu2G_ZXe0_BTZ9m5Lg1V2PGbke6ZBheKklYQ&amp;s=dkmv5AoiCUM_mND_nP7MFuBv-uoyUGn3fD1HJpjOQiA&amp;e=" rel="external nofollow">[3]</a></p><p>There seems to be a pattern: Murders of Christians are committed stealthily in Turkey: It is "ordinary people" who murder or attack Christians, then the judiciary or political system somehow finds a way of enabling the murderers or attackers to get away with what they have done. Sadly, most of these crimes are not covered by the international media, and Turkey is never held responsible.</p><p>Turkey, however, signed a Customs Union agreement with the European Union in 1995 and was officially recognized as a candidate for full membership in 1999. Negotiations for the accession of Turkey to the EU are still ongoing.</p><p>How come a nation that has murdered or attacked so many Christians throughout history, and which has not even apologized for these crimes, is considered even a suitable <i>candidate</i> for EU membership? Because of the threat of blackmail to flood Europe with Muslims? Turkey will flood Europe with them anyway. There is even a name for it: <i>Hijrah</i>, spreading Islam (jihad) by emigration. Exactly as Muslims have done inside Turkey.</p><p>And what kind of a culture and civilization have many Muslims built for the most part in the lands that they have conquered? When one observes the historical and current situation in Muslim-majority countries, what one mostly sees are murders, attacks and hatred: Hatred of non-Muslims, hatred of women, hatred of free thought and an extremely deep hatred of everything that is not Islamic. Many Muslims that have moved to the West have been trying to import political Islam to the free world, as well.</p><p>Muslim regimes including Turkey have not achieved civilized democratization that would enable all of their citizens -- Muslims and non-Muslims -- to live free and safe lives.</p><p>While Muslims are pretty much free to practice their religion and express their views on <i>other</i> religions or on atheism anywhere in the world, Christians and other non-Muslims can be killed in Turkey and other Muslim-majority countries just for attempting peacefully to practice their religion or openly express their views.</p><p>"Multiculturalism," which is passionately defended by many liberals in the West, could have worked wonders in multi-ethnic and multi-religious places such as Anatolia. But unfortunately, Islamic ideology allows only one culture, one religion, and one way of thinking under their rule: Islam. Ironically, this is the central fact these liberals do not want to see.</p><p>Much of the history of Islam shows that the nature of Islamic ideology is to invade or infiltrate, and then to dominate non-Muslims.</p><p>In general, Muslims have never shown the slightest interest in peaceful coexistence with non-Muslims. Even if most Muslims are not jihadis, most do not speak out against jihadist attacks. Many thus appear quietly to support jihadis. That there are also peaceful Muslim individuals who respect other faiths does not change this tragic fact.</p><p>That is why non-Muslims in the West have every right to fear one day being exposed to the same treatment at the hands of Muslims. The fear non-Muslims have of Islamic attacks is, based on recent evidence, both rational and justified.</p><p>Given how unspeakably non-Muslims are treated in majority Muslim countries, including Turkey, who can blame them for being concerned about the possible Islamization of their own free societies?</p><p>Why does Turkey, which seems to hate its own Christians, want to have visa-free access to Christian Europe, anyway?</p><p><i><div style="margin-left:25px">Robert Jones, an expert on Turkey, is currently based in the UK.</div></i></p><p></p></div></div><p> </p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">75048</guid><pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2016 15:59:10 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Miracle Or Not?</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/10917-miracle-or-not/</link><description>Let's see what the forumers think about this. Please note that one question can't exceed one line, so I had to keep it short. By "seeing" a miracle I definitely mean seeing in normal conditions healthwise as well as seeing without any unnatural influences such as drugs and alcohol. I also mean not just seeing but using other senses. Also you are convinced that it is not an illusion. For instance, water turns into wine in front of your eyes, you can smell and taste it, as well as check in the lab to make sure that it was definitely water and it is definitely wine now. You get the idea...</description><guid isPermaLink="false">10917</guid><pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 23:07:39 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>The Burial place of Christ</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/76094-the-burial-place-of-christ/</link><description><![CDATA[
<div style="margin:0px 0px 20px;font-size:medium;font-family:'RobotoCondensed-Regular-webfont';color:rgb(0,0,0);"><p> </p></div><p>HOLY SEPULCHRE PLANS FIRST RENOVATION IN GENERATIONS Various sects connected to the historic Jerusalem church, fraught with long-standing conflict, have agreed that renovations are necessary at the site where many believe Jesus was buried.</p><div style="margin:0px 0px 20px;font-size:medium;font-family:'RobotoCondensed-Regular-webfont';color:rgb(31,31,34);"><span style="margin:0px 4px 0px 0px;">BY </span><span style="margin:0px;">JERUSALEM POST STAFF</span></div><p><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'RobotoCondensed-Regular-webfont';font-size:medium;"> </span></p><div style="margin:0px 0px 20px;font-size:medium;font-family:'RobotoCondensed-Regular-webfont';color:rgb(31,31,34);"> MAY 31, 2019 06:27</div><div style="margin:0px 0px 20px;font-size:medium;font-family:'RobotoCondensed-Regular-webfont';color:rgb(31,31,34);"> </div><div style="margin:0px 0px 20px;font-size:medium;font-family:'RobotoCondensed-Regular-webfont';color:rgb(31,31,34);"> </div><div style="margin:0px 0px 20px;font-size:medium;font-family:'RobotoCondensed-Regular-webfont';color:rgb(31,31,34);"> </div><div style="margin:0px 0px 20px;font-size:medium;font-family:'RobotoCondensed-Regular-webfont';color:rgb(31,31,34);"> </div><div style="margin:0px 0px 20px;font-size:medium;font-family:'RobotoCondensed-Regular-webfont';color:rgb(31,31,34);"><p style="font-size:20px;font-family:'RobotoCondensed-regular-webfont';color:rgb(95,95,95);">n old ladder leans against an outer wall of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem’s Old City. Known as the immovable ladder, it is a testament to a stalemate on renovations that has lasted for over 250 years. The various sects that maintain chapels in the historic structure have been fearful of allowing any other group to make changes, lest it tip the delicate status quo.<br><br>Every Easter, thousands attend the Holy Fire ceremony at the historic site in the Old City, where many Christians believe Jesus was laid to rest.</p><div style="margin:0px;font-size:20px;font-family:'RobotoCondensed-regular-webfont';color:rgb(95,95,95);"><div style="margin:20px 0px;"><div style="margin:0px;"><div style="margin:0px 10px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:bold;font-family:inherit;color:#000000;">Read More Related Articles</div><ul><li><a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Lindsey-Graham-to-unveil-plan-for-Iranian-nuclear-power-594449?obOrigUrl=true" rel="external nofollow"><span style="margin:0px 0px 10px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-size:18px;font-family:inherit;">Sen. Lindsey Graham to unveil plan for Iranian nuclear power</span></a></li><li><a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Bedouins-forced-to-destroy-their-own-homes-in-the-Negev-594362?obOrigUrl=true" rel="external nofollow"><span style="margin:0px 0px 10px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-size:18px;font-family:inherit;">Bedouins forced to destroy their own homes in the Negev</span></a></li></ul></div><div style="margin:0px;"><div style="margin:0px 10px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:bold;font-family:inherit;color:#000000;"> </div><ul><li><a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://www.ranker.com/list/colonial-america-myths-debunked/quinn-armstrong?format=slideshow&amp;slide=1&amp;utm_source=outbrain&amp;utm_medium=ob&amp;utm_campaign=ob-d-colonial-america-myths&amp;utm_term=%24section_name%24&amp;obcid=00bb44d22640c5f7fd2842d3a2e6cc2862&amp;obOrigUrl=true" rel="external nofollow"><span style="margin:0px 0px 10px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-size:12px;font-family:inherit;"><span style="color:rgb(95,95,95);font-family:'RobotoCondensed-regular-webfont';font-size:20px;"> the Eastern Orthodox, Roman Catholic and Armenian Apostolic churches, which have been the building’s primary custodians since the Ottoman era.</span></span></a></li></ul></div></div></div><br><span style="color:rgb(95,95,95);font-family:'RobotoCondensed-regular-webfont';font-size:20px;">The multi-million dollar project will be funded by the various Christian groups and the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan.</span><br><br><span style="color:rgb(95,95,95);font-family:'RobotoCondensed-regular-webfont';font-size:20px;">At a ceremony held at the Franciscan Monastery on nearby Mount Zion, leaders of the three churches signed a rare agreement.</span><br><br><span style="color:rgb(95,95,95);font-family:'RobotoCondensed-regular-webfont';font-size:20px;">“Today is really a special day: not only for us and for our Communities, which are in charge of the custody of the Holy Places, but it is important for the Holy City of Jerusalem, because everybody is now realizing and acknowledging that if Jerusalem maintains her Christian character as well, it depends on us as well.” stated Theophilos III, the Greek Orthodox Church leader who is officially styled as Patriarch of the Holy City of Jerusalem and all Palestine and Israel. “Therefore, our mission is very important, not only in religious terms but also in diplomatic terms and, inevitably, in political terms.”</span></div><p><a class="ipsAttachLink ipsAttachLink_image" href="https://hyeforum.com/uploads/monthly_07_2019/post-11145-0-03687900-1562170652.jpg" data-fileid="4902" data-fileext="jpg" rel=""><img data-fileid="4902" class="ipsImage ipsImage_thumbnailed" alt="Seplecre of Christ.jpg" src="https://hyeforum.com/uploads/monthly_07_2019/post-11145-0-03687900-1562170652_thumb.jpg"></a></p>
]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">76094</guid><pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2019 16:17:39 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Destroyed Armenian Church in Aleppo to open in spring after restoratio</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/76034-destroyed-armenian-church-in-aleppo-to-open-in-spring-after-restoratio/</link><description><![CDATA[<p><img alt="964893.jpg" src="https://armenpress.am/static/news/b/2019/02/964893.jpg"></p><p> </p><p> </p><p style="text-align:justify;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Lora, Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Tahoma;font-size:15px;">YEREVAN, FEBRUARY 20, ARMENPRESS. The first ceremonies in the Forty Martyrs Armenian Cathedral of Aleppo after restoration will be held in March-April, RIA Novosti reported.</p><p style="text-align:justify;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Lora, Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Tahoma;font-size:15px;">The Church has been destroyed by the Islamic State militants in April 2015.</p><p style="text-align:justify;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Lora, Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Tahoma;font-size:15px;">“Large-scale works have been carried out. We had to completely reconstruct the destroyed corridor. We have used the ancient stones which were maintained, collected them and put on the new ones. This was the most difficult work”, engineer Gabris Tamasyan said.</p><p style="text-align:justify;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Lora, Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Tahoma;font-size:15px;">The restoration works will be completed soon. New doors, windows and benches have already been installed in the Cathedral.</p><p style="text-align:justify;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Lora, Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Tahoma;font-size:15px;">The Church is being restored by the donations of the believer Armenian community of Aleppo.  </p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">76034</guid><pubDate>Sat, 16 Mar 2019 04:20:43 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Prayers for Private Nerek Harutyunyan his family and friends</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/75968-prayers-for-private-nerek-harutyunyan-his-family-and-friends/</link><description><![CDATA[<p><span>http://asbarez.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/nkrsoldier-2.jpg</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12.48px;background-color:rgb(240,244,247);">Artsakh soldier killed</span><br><br><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12.48px;background-color:rgb(240,244,247);">STEPANAKERT—A Private of the Artsakh Defense Army Narek Harutyunyan (b. 1998) was killed as a result of shooting from the Azerbaijani side at about 2:20 p.m. Monday, the Artsakh Defense Ministry reported.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12.48px;background-color:rgb(240,244,247);">Prayers for this Solider yev all our boys on the front ```</span></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">75968</guid><pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2018 02:56:02 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Greeks Going To Return Previous Status To St. Sophia Church In Istanbu</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/14093-greeks-going-to-return-previous-status-to-st-sophia-church-in-istanbu/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>Greeks Going to Return Previous Status to St. Sophia Church in Istanbul</p><p>
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/PanARMENIAN.Net/ “Free Agia Sophia Council in America” organizations has launched an international campaign to make St. Sophia an Orthodox Church again, American politician of Greek origin Chris Spiru stated a press conference in Manhattan. He presented the plan of the organization and emphasized that the matter concerns an international movement initiated in the U.S. which purposes the objective to retransform the Great Church of Saint Sophia in Constantinople into a Cathedral for all Orthodox believers.</p><p> </p><p>
He said the Turkish government calls and uses the Church as a museum, organizes trade exhibitions, concerts and fashion shows in it. Sacrilege and desecration is taking place. We will use all the juridical and religious methods to achieve our goal,” Spiru underscored. In his words, simultaneously a collection of signatures will be organized. “Muslims grew indignant over the caricatures of Prophet Mohammed. We assert our right to pray in the church, which is a symbol for all Orthodox believers. I think, the moment when Turkey is striving to join the European Union is quite appropriate for it,” Mr. Spiru said, reported Greek.ru.</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">14093</guid><pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2006 13:19:12 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>You want something inspirational.....here!</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/56867-you-want-something-inspirationalhere/</link><description><![CDATA[<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-lgQ4b_mvQ" rel="external nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-lgQ4b_mvQ</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">56867</guid><pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2013 15:32:52 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Monumental Book on Khatchkars Presented at New York&#x2019;s Zohrab Informati</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/75512-monumental-book-on-khatchkars-presented-at-new-york%E2%80%99s-zohrab-informati/</link><description><![CDATA[<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:medium;background-color:rgb(238,238,238);">	Monumental Book on Khatchkars Presented at New York’s Zohrab Information Center<div>April 12, 2017</div></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:medium;background-color:rgb(238,238,238);"><div><p><strong><a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__i1.wp.com_massispost.com_wp-2Dcontent_uploads_2017_04_khatchkar.jpg&amp;d=DwMFaQ&amp;c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&amp;r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&amp;m=Texx2at3YLfIelkYj2HzWNc1KwE45y1uTvQEmaOKvOY&amp;s=J2vTdeJl9LVpFCjWihlPsUOLwS8eI0LvPQXOVvWZQKU&amp;e=" rel="external nofollow"><img height="433" width="429" alt="khatchkar.jpg?resize=585%2C591" src="https://i1.wp.com/massispost.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/khatchkar.jpg?resize=585%2C591"><span>http://www.groong.com/news/attachments/msg599540/pngBJQgblWhBW.png</span></a></strong></p><p><strong>By Florence Avakian</strong></p><p>ZOHRAB INFORMATION CENTER, NY –The year 1993 was a life-changing year for Hrair Hawk Khatcherian. That year, he was told that he had lung cancer and had only 10 days “to die”. Subjected to unbearably painful treatments in the hospital, he had placed on his hospital room wall a cross and photographs of Armenia and Artsakh (Karabakh).</p><p>“It was by staring at them fiercely, day by day, with my mortally wounded hawk’s eyes that I succeeded in tearing myself from the claws of death, to take flight again, and to rise high in the sky in the direction of my true destiny,” he revealed. It marked the beginning of a unique mission for him.</p><p><strong>Promise to God</strong><br>Since that crucial year, Khatcherian made a solemn promise to God that he would photograph khatchkars around the world. “My approach comes from the biblical, faith and soul-filled side of my life. The story of khatchkars is to bring humanity back to heaven.”</p><p>And so began a 24-year grueling journey involving “research, planning, cars, boats, airplanes, helicopters, cameras, reflectors, tripods, cameras, flash and tape measure.”  The result became a monumental published book, entitled Khatchkar.</p><p>On Monday evening, March 30, the acclaimed photographer presented an engrossing lecture replete with dozens of slides from this unique album to a large and enthusiastic crowd, at the Zohrab Information Center of the Armenian Diocese in New York.</p><p>In his welcome message, Zohrab Center Director Very Rev. Fr. Daniel Findikyan said, “this unprecedented album, spanning over 500 pages, with more than 1000 exquisite photographs, comprises the most comprehensive photographic documentation to date of these intricately adorned crosses sculpted into stone – no two alike – which are omnipresent throughout the Armenian homeland.”</p><p>And in Hawk Khatcherian’s own words, this herculean work of the Christian art form “is a book that will never be completed,” related Fr. Daniel.</p><p>“Khatch means cross in Armenian,” said Hrair Hawk Khatcherian, starting his fascinating talk. “Born with a predestined family name of Khatcherian, I could not help but witness and photograph khatchkars, (stone-carved crosses).”</p><p>For Khatcherian, this life’s work has been a soulful pilgrimage of 24 years to 45 countries, encompassing “Christ, heaven, hell, earth, cow dung, mud, rain, hail, clouds, and sun.” These travels included Armenia, Artzagh, historic Armenia, Cilicia, Iran, Georgia, Lebanon, Jerusalem, Bethlehem, Crimea, Venice, and museums worldwide.</p><p><strong>Danger Zones</strong><br>Many times, these trips were in dangerous militarized areas, including near the Azerbaijani border, and at the base of Mt. Ararat which had been mined by the Turkish government. Often, he walked for three to four hours in muddy forests, or rock strewn cliffs, in freezing cold or brutally hot weather, sometimes going back to the same spot many times to catch the right light, or wait until the rain or snow had subsided.</p><p>In Jerusalem, he perfected his climbing skills, borrowing a ladder spanning two floors high to get the correct angle of a khatchkar imbedded in the cupola of a church.</p><p>“”These khatchkars did not happen overnight,” he related. “The master carvers dedicated their art and creativity for important events and victories, even for the birth of a village, an ordinary child’s birth, for the fertility of crops, for rain, or for the health of a sick person,” he said, adding that on some stones secret messages were inscribed.</p><p>Christ and Mother Mary were dominant subjects, and the themes of angels, eagles, lions, oxen are repeated again and again on these art forms. From the 13th century on, Christ is never shown crucified, with a few rare exceptions. He is depicted at the top of the plaque, in a triumphal way.</p><p>Commenting on some of the areas, he said that the khatchkars in Artzagh were “more down to earth, natural and unique, with the tallest (some 12 feet high) found in the Dadivank church in the remote and scenically beautiful Kelbajar region of Artsakh. They were so tall because centuries ago, the area was home to some of the royal princes of the Armenian homeland.</p><p>In Kars, khatchkars had been used as masonry, and in Van used as steps for defense. In Nakhichevan, now under the control of Azerbaijan, they were employed to build train tracks. In Nakhichevan’s Julfa cemetery, the biggest in all of Armenia’s history, and where several thousands of khatchkars still stood, the cemetery was completely destroyed in 2002 and 2005 by the local Azerbaijani authorities.</p><p>The khatchkar, distinguished by the originality of its appearance, and dominated by the image of the cross, symbolizes the Tree of Life. Its particular scale is particularly striking, and goes back over one thousand years, surviving to the present day, not only on Armenian territories not systematically destroyed, but also in diasporan communities.</p><p>Patrick Donabedian of Aix Marseille University has written, “While embodying a strong national and religious identity, the art of Khatchkars, probably the most iconic example of Armenia through the ages, demonstrates a large openness to the outside world, and a great faculty of exchanging and sharing. It is definitely the opposite of the hatred it is sometimes the victim of.”</p><p>Today, in excellent health, Khatcherian whose photographs encompass 14 unique albums, “lives only for his family (wife and two teenage children), Armenia, Artsakh, and the fundamental and exceptional benchmarks of the Armenian world.”</p><p><a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__massispost.com_2017_04_monumental-2Dbook-2Dkhatchkars-2Dpresented-2Dnew-2Dyorks-2Dzohrab-2Dinformation-2Dcenter_&amp;d=DwMFaQ&amp;c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&amp;r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&amp;m=Texx2at3YLfIelkYj2HzWNc1KwE45y1uTvQEmaOKvOY&amp;s=cXB5PFga7_M4egNYNa3XqP8XXb4DwZ_DdxuggWg491o&amp;e=" rel="external nofollow">http://massispost.com/2017/04/monumental-book-khatchkars-presented-new-yorks-zohrab-information-center/</a></p></div></div><p> </p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">75512</guid><pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2017 15:51:39 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Last Word: Christian Iran Ancient History, Ever New</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/74686-last-word-christian-iran-ancient-history-ever-new/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>Commonweal<br>Feb 13 2016<br><br><br>Last Word: Christian Iran<br>Ancient History, Ever New<br><br>by Christopher Thornton<br><br><br>On a dimly lit side street in central Tehran, a bright yellow light<br>shines above a wooden door. Step inside and you might imagine you had<br>left the Islamic Republic. An unveiled woman greets guests and leads<br>them to a spacious dining room, where other women have hung their<br>veils and monteaux at the door. It is early summer, so sleeveless tops<br>reveal bare arms and shoulders. When one patron produces a bottle of<br>Scotch, a waiter brings him a tumbler with ice.<br><br>This is one of Tehran's three Armenian clubs'informal `Islamic-free<br>zones' where Armenian Christians can socialize without the constraints<br>of Islamic law. There are other kinds of Christians in Iran'Assyrians<br>and Chaldeans, Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox'but Armenians are<br>the most numerous. It is estimated that there are three hundred<br>thousand of them in Iran. They are allocated five seats in the<br>religious-minorities section of parliament, freely attend services in<br>the six hundred Armenian churches throughout the country, hold<br>observer status on the powerful Guardian Council, and operate their<br>own schools so that their children can be taught in the Armenian<br>language.<br><br>Christianity has a long history in Iran. The Acts of the Apostles tell<br>us that Parthians, Persians, and Medes converted to Christianity at<br>Pentecost, and the Parthian kings allowed the new religion to spread<br>throughout the empire. Christians fleeing Roman persecution found a<br>safe haven there. But for the next fifteen hundred years the fortunes<br>of Persian Christians were subject to the political conflicts that<br>swept across Asia. The fourth-century Zoroastrian ruler Shapour II<br>initially allowed religious freedom but then cracked down on both<br>Christians and Jews. In the early centuries of Islamic rule,<br>Christians enjoyed the status of a protected minority, but the<br>Crusades revived old religious tensions. The early Mongol rulers<br>converted to Christianity after they invaded in the thirteenth<br>century, but when later rulers opted for Islam, Christians were again<br>persecuted.<br><br>The Armenian community of Iran was formed in 1603, when Shah Abbas<br>allowed five-hundred thousand Armenian Christians who were persecuted<br>by the Ottoman Turks to resettle in Esfahan. Three centuries later,<br>the Armenian genocide of 1915 led fifty thousand more Armenians to<br>seek refuge in Iran, primarily in Tabriz, Tehran, and the enclave of<br>Esfahan that had come to be known as New Julfa, after the city in<br>Azerbaijan where the Armenians originated. As Reza Shah and his son<br>Mohammed Reza Shah sought to modernize Iran in the twentieth century,<br>Armenians rose to high positions in the government, as well as in the<br>arts and sciences.<br><br>Since its construction in 1606, Vank Cathedral has served as the<br>spiritual heart of the Julfa district. It is also one of Esfahan's<br>major tourist attractions. Christian pilgrims, foreign tourists, and<br>visiting Iranians all pass through its gates. In one corner of the<br>cathedral's grounds stands a memorial of the 1915 genocide'a slender<br>spire encircled by an apron of grass. Inside the Armenian Museum,<br>photographs and documents offer a moving record of the genocide.<br>Visitors, both Christian and Muslim, also gaze at handwritten Bibles,<br>distinctive crosses, vestments, and chalices.<br><br>The main attraction is the cathedral itself, where the beauty of the<br>Armenian religious tradition is revealed in all its glory. At the top<br>of the central dome the creation story is painted in patterns of blue<br>and gold. Winged cherubs, a traditional Armenian motif, decorate the<br>stone columns, and traditional Persian imagery appears in the floral<br>patterns that adorn the entrance ceiling.<br><br>The cathedral isn't the only church in Julfa. Knock on the wooden door<br>of the Church of St. Mary and a caretaker will open it to admit<br>visitors to the inner courtyard. Built by a wealthy silk merchant in<br>the seventeenth century, St. Mary's was later expanded to accommodate<br>overflow crowds. Then there is the Church of Bethlehem, where the life<br>of Jesus is portrayed in seventy-two wall paintings. The crosses of<br>both churches rise above their central domes to share the skyline with<br>the local minarets.<br><br>Many Westerners think of Iran as a theocratic monolith. They would no<br>doubt be surprised to discover Christians of various kinds living<br>there comfortably. Some of these Christian communities are ancient;<br>some arrived more recently, seeking asylum. But even the newcomers now<br>regard Iran as their home. They think of the Shiite majority not as<br>their hosts, but as neighbors with whom they have much in common. For<br>example, Muslim and Christian Iranians are united in their enthusiasm<br>for the recent nuclear deal, which will release their country from<br>stifling economic sanctions. In an interview with the Fides News<br>Agency, Hormoz Aslani Babroudi, director of the Pontifical Missionary<br>Society of Iran, offered his endorsement of the agreement:<br>`Christians, along with all the Iranian people, are rejoicing because<br>their prayers were answered. From now on it will be easier for the<br>world to have a positive view of Iran.' He added, `We do not consider<br>ourselves foreigners but Iranians, and we are proud of it.'<br><br><a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.commonwealmagazine.org_last-2Dword-2Dchristian-2Diran&amp;d=CwIFaQ&amp;c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&amp;r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&amp;m=GocjWAga3K3bt04upEmbqeZA9ZsNuL7l76BwFmC2FgE&amp;s=oMrfUvweFZm5PkzKV7skP8B5Go3qFLuf0EXCeGYlDbc&amp;e=" rel="external nofollow">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.commonwealmagazine.org_last-2Dword-2Dchristian-2Diran&amp;d=CwIFaQ&amp;c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&amp;r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&amp;m=GocjWAga3K3bt04upEmbqeZA9ZsNuL7l76BwFmC2FgE&amp;s=oMrfUvweFZm5PkzKV7skP8B5Go3qFLuf0EXCeGYlDbc&amp;e=</a></p><div> </div>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">74686</guid><pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2016 16:26:32 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Lent~Stillness</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/74859-lent~stillness/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
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<p>Shahada~ A statement of faith~ Secretly, Silently, I'm with you, I'm one of you.</p><p><a class="ipsAttachLink ipsAttachLink_image" href="https://hyeforum.com/uploads/monthly_04_2016/post-11145-0-98878900-1461974634.jpg" data-fileid="4796" data-fileext="jpg" rel=""><img data-fileid="4796" class="ipsImage ipsImage_thumbnailed" alt="obam10.jpg" src="https://hyeforum.com/uploads/monthly_04_2016/post-11145-0-98878900-1461974634_thumb.jpg"></a></p><p><a class="ipsAttachLink ipsAttachLink_image" href="https://hyeforum.com/uploads/monthly_04_2016/post-11145-0-67825900-1461974661.jpg" data-fileid="4797" data-fileext="jpg" rel=""><img data-fileid="4797" class="ipsImage ipsImage_thumbnailed" alt="obama1.jpg" src="https://hyeforum.com/uploads/monthly_04_2016/post-11145-0-67825900-1461974661_thumb.jpg"></a></p><p><a class="ipsAttachLink ipsAttachLink_image" href="https://hyeforum.com/uploads/monthly_04_2016/post-11145-0-99212000-1461974689.jpg" data-fileid="4798" data-fileext="jpg" rel=""><img data-fileid="4798" class="ipsImage ipsImage_thumbnailed" alt="obama 3.jpg" src="https://hyeforum.com/uploads/monthly_04_2016/post-11145-0-99212000-1461974689_thumb.jpg"></a></p><p><a class="ipsAttachLink ipsAttachLink_image" href="https://hyeforum.com/uploads/monthly_04_2016/post-11145-0-67029300-1461974751.jpg" data-fileid="4799" data-fileext="jpg" rel=""><img data-fileid="4799" class="ipsImage ipsImage_thumbnailed" alt="obama5.jpg" src="https://hyeforum.com/uploads/monthly_04_2016/post-11145-0-67029300-1461974751_thumb.jpg"></a></p><p><a class="ipsAttachLink ipsAttachLink_image" href="https://hyeforum.com/uploads/monthly_04_2016/post-11145-0-30142100-1461974787.jpg" data-fileid="4800" data-fileext="jpg" rel=""><img data-fileid="4800" class="ipsImage ipsImage_thumbnailed" alt="obama6.jpg" src="https://hyeforum.com/uploads/monthly_04_2016/post-11145-0-30142100-1461974787_thumb.jpg"></a></p><p><a class="ipsAttachLink ipsAttachLink_image" href="https://hyeforum.com/uploads/monthly_04_2016/post-11145-0-70848600-1461974809.jpg" data-fileid="4801" data-fileext="jpg" rel=""><img data-fileid="4801" class="ipsImage ipsImage_thumbnailed" alt="obama 7.jpg" src="https://hyeforum.com/uploads/monthly_04_2016/post-11145-0-70848600-1461974809_thumb.jpg"></a></p><p><a class="ipsAttachLink ipsAttachLink_image" href="https://hyeforum.com/uploads/monthly_04_2016/post-11145-0-23378600-1461975044.jpg" data-fileid="4804" data-fileext="jpg" rel=""><img data-fileid="4804" class="ipsImage ipsImage_thumbnailed" alt="obama8.jpg" src="https://hyeforum.com/uploads/monthly_04_2016/post-11145-0-23378600-1461975044_thumb.jpg"></a></p><p><a class="ipsAttachLink ipsAttachLink_image" href="https://hyeforum.com/uploads/monthly_04_2016/post-11145-0-06701700-1461975070.jpg" data-fileid="4805" data-fileext="jpg" rel=""><img data-fileid="4805" class="ipsImage ipsImage_thumbnailed" alt="obama9.jpg" src="https://hyeforum.com/uploads/monthly_04_2016/post-11145-0-06701700-1461975070_thumb.jpg"></a></p><p><a class="ipsAttachLink ipsAttachLink_image" href="https://hyeforum.com/uploads/monthly_04_2016/post-11145-0-49757400-1461975163.jpg" data-fileid="4806" data-fileext="jpg" rel=""><img data-fileid="4806" class="ipsImage ipsImage_thumbnailed" alt="obam10.jpg" src="https://hyeforum.com/uploads/monthly_04_2016/post-11145-0-49757400-1461975163_thumb.jpg"></a></p>
]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">74833</guid><pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2016 00:17:07 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Armenian merchant authored first Chinese translation of Bible</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/74814-armenian-merchant-authored-first-chinese-translation-of-bible/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>Interesting facts<br><br>Armenian merchant authored first Chinese translation of Bible<br><br>PanARMENIAN.Net will tell about Hovhannes Ghazarian, who became one of<br>the first translators of the Bible into the Chinese language. There<br>are no Armenian sources referring to Hovhannes Ghazarian, more known<br>as Joannes Lassar. The information about his courtesy we possess<br>nowadays has originated from notes by English missionaries, who worked<br>in China and India.<br><br>April 27, 2016<br><br>PanARMENIAN.Net - According to them, Ghazarian was born in 1781 (or<br>1778) in the city of Makao, China, to a family of rich Armenian<br>merchant. Besides native Armenian, he learned the southern Chinese<br>dialect with the help of servants, who lived in the house. He also<br>mastered Portuguese and English. A perfect Chinese speaker, he even<br>worked as a translator at a Portuguese governmental office in Makao<br>and held official correspondence with Chinese authorities. He was also<br>engaged in teaching and trade.<br><br>At that time, Christian missionaries from England, especially<br>Protestants, intensified their activity in South and Southeast Asia,<br>while translators were rated as professionals who could make Bible<br>available and understandable for the locals. Fort William College that<br>was founded in Kolkata in1800 was also supposed to train translators,<br>thus making India a center for translating the Bible into local<br>dialects and the Chinese language as well.<br><br>It’s noteworthy that the first attempts to translate Christian<br>literature into Chinese date back to Middle Ages. There exist some<br>handwritten extracts from Bible translated at that time. At the<br>beginning of the 19th century, missionaries undertook a task to get<br>complete translation of the sacred book. However, the peculiarities of<br>the Chinese language made translation a hard job and initial efforts<br>failed halfway.<br><br>In 1804, Joannes Lassar arrived in Kolkata, where the vice-provost of<br>Fort William College, Claudius Buchanan, learning about the merchant’s<br>Chinese language skills, offered him to translate the Bible. Lassar,<br>who experienced financial problems at the moment, agreed to do the job<br>for 300 Indian rupees (450 pounds) annual fee. He was later joined by<br>missionary Joshua Marshman, his two sons and the son of the college<br>provost. To do the translation, Lassar used the Armenian and English<br>versions of the Bible, as well as a Portuguese-Chinese dictionary.<br><br>In 1807, Lassar and Marshman moved from Kolkata to a neighboring city<br>of Serampore, where they completed the translation of Gospel of<br>Matthew and sent it to the Archbishop of Canterbury, who was supposed<br>to take it to Lambeth Libraries. During the following years, Lassar<br>and Marshman continued to translate the other testaments. In 1810, the<br>gospels of Matthew and Mark were published in Serampore, while the<br>next year saw the complete translation of the New Testament, which was<br>published in 1813.<br><br>The books caught the eye with a high quality translation and beautiful<br>calligraphy. Besides, to make biblical names sound appropriate in<br>Chinese, the translators created new additional hieroglyphs.<br><br>Hovhannes Ghazarian’s work was appreciated by his contemporaries.<br>Thus, on September 13, 1806, Fort William college provost, reverend<br>David Brown wrote in his letter: “Professor Lassar sent me three<br>samples of his Chinese translation of the Bible. Although the editions<br>were published in hustle and I would not criticize them in principle,<br>I must say that Mr. Lassar knows Chinese perfectly and the job he is<br>doing will be a triumph if he has several more years to complete it.<br>He reads the Bible in Chinese so fluently, like you would do it in<br>English. He also writes very quickly.”<br><br>Simultaneously with Lassar and Marshman, a protestant activist, Robert<br>Morison, was also working on the Chinese translation of the Bible.<br>Although, they were competing in some way, they consulted each other<br>on some professional matters.<br><br>In 1813, Morison’s translation of the New Testament was published in<br>the city of Guangzhou (Canton). 10 years later, the translation of the<br>whole Bible was published in Malacca (currently the territory of<br>Malaysia). However, a year earlier, in 1822, the translation of the<br>sacred book made by Lassar and Marshman came out in India. Experts say<br>this was the best ever Chinese translation of the Bible.<br><br>There is little known about the life of Hovhannes Ghazarian after that<br>period. According to some sources, he died in 1820s; others say he<br>lived till 1835.<br><br>Literature: Stephen Neill, A History of Christianity in India:<br>1707-1858, Cambridge, 1985 Elijah Coleman Bridgman, S. Wells Williams,<br>The Chinese Repository, vol IV, Canton, 1836 Ching Su, The printing<br>presses of the London missionary society among the Chinese, London,<br>1996 Claudius Buchanan ,Two discourses preached before the University<br>of Cambridge, on Commencement Sunday, July 1, 1810, Boston, 1811<br>Daniel Jeyaraj , Embodying Memories: Early Bible Translations in<br>Tranquebar and Serampore, International bulletin of missionary<br>research David Helliwell /Curator of Chinese Collections, Bodleian<br>Library/, The earliest missionary editions, SERICA, some notes on old<br>Chinese books, January 2013.<br><br>Samson Hovhannisyan / PanARMENIAN.Net<br><br><a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.panarmenian.net_eng_details_205041_&amp;d=CwIFaQ&amp;c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&amp;r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&amp;m=_rXzQkOhQ1TkWca6gfZjVlBjUu4fAesgLQlbvq6W6F8&amp;s=Lt8vacgpOLtxdnkKTw-de0bdz9yURbjE8AKOpKSVNhA&amp;e=" rel="external nofollow">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.panarmenian.net_eng_details_205041_&amp;d=CwIFaQ&amp;c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&amp;r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&amp;m=_rXzQkOhQ1TkWca6gfZjVlBjUu4fAesgLQlbvq6W6F8&amp;s=Lt8vacgpOLtxdnkKTw-de0bdz9yURbjE8AKOpKSVNhA&amp;e=</a></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">74814</guid><pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2016 16:23:15 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>The Beast Revelation</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/35217-the-beast-revelation/</link><description><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><strong>The Beast Revelation </strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman">This letter is dedicated to all Christians. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman">The following letter is a summary of Revelation 13. Its purpose is to show the method used in finding the conclusions which have been stated. Nothing new has been added from my previous letters. It is more of a compilation of them all. This writing is the same material in different words. The Bible uses this same method of explanation. There are four Gospels. In each you see a different view of the same material. This can be beneficial because the meaning becomes more exact. Although, if this is a first time reader, then this will all be news to you. With that in mind, here we go.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman">The first thing that should be addressed when doing any study of Bible prophecy is what questions do I intend to answer. Some of these questions can seem a little simplistic, but their answers are much more complicated. In my studies there were only a few questions that I saw as needing an answer. My questions were very simple. First, who is this individual who is identified by the number 666? Second, who is the false prophet and how does he make the whole world worship the beast whose number is 666. Another question has to do with these same individuals. Could these two individuals be the same person, or for that matter Satan himself? Where is Satan during all this? That last question is very important. It actually goes straight to the answer of all the questions. Finally, when would someone expect to see these individuals on the Earth? Literally, what time frame should I see them? Those are the questions. The answers are much more involved. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman">This narrative will attempt to show how the answers are figured out. These answers can be seen from events that happen in the nightly news. This leads me to a key, which most of us know, but most of us forget. The Bible is a history book. Some events have happened, while some are waiting to happen. It is the ones that have not happened that we are most concerned with. Here is another key. By the way, these keys I speak of are keys to understanding. The Lord spoke in parables. The reason he gave was that it was for some to know the mysteries of God, while it was for some to know not. In hearing, they do not hear. In seeing, they do not see. I compare it to telling the truth, while hiding it at the same time. Many of the parables that the Lord spoke he immediately gave an answer to. He showed how he used certain symbols and words to describe subjects and then gave their meanings. Now for the punch line. The Lord also spoke in parables that he did not identify. These parables go straight to the hidden meaning of these end times. Another key is word substitution. An example of this is a pretty well-known item from Revelation. This word substitution deals with Revelation 13:1. The beast has seven heads and ten horns. In Revelation 17 those heads and horns are defined. The heads are identified as mountains, while the horns are identified as kings. This changes the whole picture of what the beast is symbolically to what it is literally. Now Rev.13:1 can be read as follows with just the items discussed thus far. And I saw a beast rise up out of the sea having seven mountains and ten kings. That is a simple and easy word substitution. Know that this will happen many times throughout the Bible.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman">Now, getting back to the questions. The question is, where is Satan? If this question can be answered, you will have eliminated some others. Some prophecy teachers believe that Satan is the beast, or that Satan is the false prophet, which is misleading and puts a stumbling block square in the road to a proper interpretation. I almost always get this question. How can you know who the beast is when he cannot be revealed? 2nd Thess. Chapter 2 states that he cannot be revealed, until something is removed first. Most scholars have this part right. That is a picture of the Rapture. What they have wrong is that Satan and the beast are not the same individual. Satan cannot be revealed until after the rapture, but he is not the beast. Therefore, I can identify the beast and his false prophet. People say prove it. So I did. I told them how to understand using the keys that I have mentioned. Revelation 13 is a parable, but God is not giving the definition, or the explanation. This one is for us to figure out. Ok, so where is Satan? In the book of Job, we get a view of Satan's abilities. In one scene, he is discussing with God about Job. Question, where is God? He is in heaven. Also, in his conversation with God Satan is talking as if he knows and has seen Job. God declares that he can do whatever he wants to Job, but he was not allowed to kill him. Now we know something else about Satan. He also has access to the Earth, and can affect peoples lives. So, it appears that Satan can be everywhere he wants to be, on Earth or in heaven. We know Satan and his angels will be cast out of heaven as per Revelation 12. This would further the idea that he is now in heaven. We also see Satan one other time, when he tempted Christ during his time on Earth. It says that he was taken to the wilderness to be tempted of Satan? Most people, and rightly so, have thought the wilderness to be a place on Earth, but this is a parable I believe. The Lord was in the wilderness and was tempted by Satan, but the wilderness is in heaven. This parable is read in Isaiah 35. It is the wilderness and the solitary place where the redeemed of the Lord walk. So, this last item being the most hard to prove, suffice it to say, that when Rev.12 says Satan will be cast out, he must be there in heaven to be cast out. Alright, now we can answer a couple questions. One, Satan is himself, and he is in heaven. Therefore, he is not the beast or the false prophet. These three work together, but each has his own identity. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman">Now to dissect Revelation 13. As I have already stated, Revelation 13 is a word substitution parable. The seven heads are seven mountains and the ten horns are ten kings. Ok, we know from this description that the beast as described is a group of possibly ten countries. This brings me to another point. There are three definitions for the beast in Revelation 13. The first is a group of countries rising up out of the sea. The second is in Rev.13:11 and is a beast with two horns (kings). Remember horns are kings as per Rev. 17. Finally, there is a beast who is identified by the number 666. It is this last beast that causes all to recieve a mark and that no man can buy and sell save he who has the mark, his number, or his name. There are three items here. Nowhere does it say that the mark is the number 666. This might have been a good guess 20 yrs. ago , but it is pretty hard to believe. Imagine people running around with a mark of 666 on their right hands. It sounds like a cartoon, but this is what the prophecy teachers want you to believe. Ok, another problem that sounds like a cartoon is the interpretation of the word "all." They want you to believe that no man could buy or sell if they did not worship the beast and take his mark. Interpreting the word "all" to mean everyone in the world. This is not the case. For one, we know that the beast is made up of only possibly ten countries. Everyone in this world lives in roughly 190 countries. I don't think we could possibly mean everyone. How about, all of those people concerned with the mark. Also, how do you cause all people concerned to receive a mark, and why? The most obvious way to mark everyone is at the voting booth. All people, rich and poor, small and great, or free and bond are potential voters. So, Mahmoud Abbas was elected president of the Palestinian Authority, and in the process all voters received an indelible ink mark on their right hands. This mark was to prevent double voting and corruption in the election. Ok, we have a mark. It is not 666. At this point he fits the part, but not completely. Still, there is no ready identification of 666 concerning him. This election was in January 2005. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman">Back to Rev.13. We have seven mountains and ten kings. Prophecy teachers want us to believe that a city with seven mountains is the seat of the antichrist and he rules with ten nations. Their logical conclusion was the Europe Union and the Vatican. This started the revived Roman empire theory. This theory has been around since the reformation. It is hard to believe this charade has gone on so long. Teachers are still preaching the Revived Roman Empire. This theory had some validity before the twentieth century and now has to be eliminated. None of these teachers could have predicted the fall of the Ottoman Empire and its division into so many separate sovereign nations. Back to our word substitution. There is an interesting item here concerning the word mountains in scripture. The word mountains can have two meanings. It can be either a mountain range, or a nation. This is the hardest part of this whole exercise, trying to figure out what mountains are describing. Teachers will have you believe it is a city with seven mountains. In actual fact, mountains here are referring to nations. This also pertains to the head wound. The wound was not a literal head wound at all, but was a nation that was wounded. The beast's head or nation was wounded and was healed. This is the Palestinian Authority after the beginning of the Oslo Accords. The land that Israel possessed was now being given back to the Palestinians and the beast's nation is being healed. Ok, so now I have seven nations and ten kings, Rev.13:1. Why do I have three more kings than nations? It seems I have a king for each nation, but three left over. In Daniel in says the beast subdued three kings. These three kings don't necessarily have to be from different countries. It seems so, but is not expressly mentioned. It is another parable. The three kings who were subdued by the beast were Israeli Prime Ministers. These three Prime Ministers all served during the seven years of the Oslo Accords and were voted out of office because of terror perpetrated during Yasser Arafat's rule. Now, I am down to seven nations. These seven nations will wage war. I can easily see seven nations that will wage war here very soon; Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, Iran and the Palestinian Authority or Iraq, and there opponent Israel. This is exactly the same beast that is presented in Rev.17, just in a slightly different appearance. In Rev. 17, five nations attacked Israel and five fell, Israel was and the one that was, and the one that came later was the Palestinian Authority. That was a picture of Israel's war of Independence. Literally, this was the beast being born. The war in 1967 is the beast rising up out of the sea in Rev.13:1. It was the unresolved issues of this conflict that resulted in the Oslo Accords of 1993. This seven year peace treaty was confirmed by Yitzhak Rabin and Yasser Arafat.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman">Now, there is another beast in Rev.13:11. This beast has two horns or kings. This is a picture of the Palestinian Authority after the elections of January 2006. This is when Hamas ran in the elections and won a majority in parliament. Now the P.A. was a country with two kings. Abbas was the President and Ismail Haniyeh was the Prime Minister. Here is where the problem with money came about. Western Nations did not want to donate money to a known terrorist organization so looked for a way they could still fund Abbas's P.A., but not let any money get to Hamas. </span></span><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="text-decoration:underline">This is when the number 666 identified an individual.</span></span></span><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> The temporary international mechanism was adopted on June 16, 2006. This program allowed Western Nations to donate funds directly to Abbas, while bypassing Hamas. If you were a member of Fatah, or on Abbas's payroll you got paid. This is how the people were allowed to buy and sell. They received salaries, whereas before the mechanism, they had no way of getting paid from the Govenment. Hamas did not recieve salaries. Also, Hamas did not recieve the mark of the beast. They boycotted the elections for President in Jan. 2005.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman">It is more obvious who is being talked about the closer you get to the end. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman">In conclusion, to my three beast definitions. Mahmoud Abbas fits all three definitions. He was a member of the P.A. when it was formed. He took over from Yasser Arafat after his death. He was one of the two kings of the second beast in Rev.13:11. Lastly, he is the one identified by the number 666, which could have been Arafat had he lived.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman">Now, concerning the the false prophet. The following four verses below all refer to the false prophet, Ismail Haniyeh.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><em><strong>Rev.13:11- and I beheld another beast coming up out of the Earth, and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.</strong></em></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><em><strong>Rev.13:12- And he exercises all the power of the first beast before him, and causes the earth and them which dwell therein, to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.</strong></em></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><em><strong>Rev.13:13- "And he does great wonders, so that he makes fire come down from heaven on the Earth in the sight of men". </strong></em></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><em><strong>Rev.13:15- And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast, should be killed.</strong></em></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman">Hamas exercised all the power of the first beast (Abbas's P.A.) because they were now an equal partner in the Government. Also, the leader of Hamas caused them to worship or honor the first beast because Hamas would not honor the first beast. The first beast was the PA without Hamas as a member. The image of the beast is what the Government of Mahmoud Abbas represented. Verse 12 does not mention the image yet, we are just informed that the false prophet caused them to worship the first beast. Verse 14 and 15 gives the details of how that worshipping or honor was to commence. An image was created of the first beast that he (the false prophet) caused to be honored.</span></span><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="text-decoration:underline"> This image of the beast is three items; the recognition of Israel, the honoring of all prior Palestinian agreements, and a renunciation of terror.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman">The last question I think that needs addressed is how do you know the timing is right? Meaning, there have been so many translations, how do you know that this one is correct? This is a question I always get asked. The answer, in my mind, is sort of a mix between two different prophecies. The first is the seven day prophecy as recorded in Genesis. It is a similtude between this and the amount of recorded time that has already happened on Earth. In the book of Peter, God says one day to him is as a thousand years. If that idea is applied to the Genesis creation, everyday that God created something one thousand years passed. Finally, on the last day he rested from his work, and his rest was one thousand years or one of God's days. This was one full week or 7000 years. After God's rest he started his work again, and he created Adam. Starting with Adam, it was approximately 4000 years to the time of Christ. Also, we know that Christ was here roughly 2000 years ago. If God was to be consistant with his one week schedule, then we could expect his day of rest to fall somewhere after the year two thousand. 4000 plus 2000 is six days and on the seventh he rested for one thousand years. This is not an exact estimate, but it can put you in the right ballpark when searching for the correct timing of Revelation. This is the estimate. The next item is more exact. Daniel 9:27 says that he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week. Many in Hebrew is Rab. This was a covenant confirmed with Yitzhak Rabin. It was the beginning of land for peace, or the Oslo Accords. When you see this agreement happen you should be aware that this prophecy will last seven years. There is only one problem with this item. Prior to it happening, everyone thought that the end of the seventh year of the agreement God would return and begin his rest. Well, that did not  happen. The reason was a logical misinterpretation. It just mentions that this agreement must occur along with the prophecies mentioned, not that they would all happen and end on the last day of the seventh year. This has thrown everyone watching offtrack for a time. Although, this was not such a terrible mistake if the watcher could see the right answer and get his, or her perspective back. When you have these two items coinciding at the expected time, then you know Revelation can be interpreted with accuracy. The events should start happening, as they have, as I have recorded in this letter.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman">May God bless all who read this letter.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman">Michae1</span></span></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">35217</guid><pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2011 17:13:06 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>&#x531; &#x542; &#x531; &#x546; &#x534;</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/56335-%D5%A1-%D5%B2-%D5%A1-%D5%B6-%D5%A4/</link><description><![CDATA[	ՀՀ-ում ստեղծված նոր աղանդը թուրքերի հետ եղբայրություն է քարոզում<div>10 hours ago</div><div><div><div><a data-ipb="nomediaparse" class="" href="http://www.hottv.am/tvnews/285500#" rel="external nofollow"><span><span>More Sharing Services</span></span></a> <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" class="" href="http://www.hottv.am/tvnews/285500#" title="View more services" rel="external nofollow">3</a></div></div></div><div><a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="http://www.hottv.am/tag/news" rel="external nofollow">լուրեր</a>, <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="http://www.hottv.am/tag/armenia" rel="external nofollow">Հայաստան</a>, <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="http://www.hottv.am/tag/new" rel="external nofollow">նոր</a>, <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="http://www.hottv.am/tag/video" rel="external nofollow">վիդեո</a></div><div><p>«Միացյալ երիտասարդական լիգայի» համանախագահ Սևակ Հովհաննիսյանը հայտարարեց, որ Հայաստանում նոր կրոնական կազմակերպություն է ստեղծվել ՝ «Արևաբուժություն» անվամբ : Լուրեր | HotTV</p><p> </p><p> </p></div><p> </p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">56335</guid><pubDate>Tue, 19 Nov 2013 20:11:44 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Armenians Have No Raison d'&#xEA;tre...</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/64596-armenians-have-no-raison-d%C3%AAtre/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>"Armenians Have no Raison deter, as illustrated by the Hamshen Issue"</p><p> </p><p>One thing the Hamshen issue made very clear, is that Armenian don't have a binding world-view, national mission of any kind, or, in short, "reason for existing" other than the basic biological imperative of survival. Considered in this abridged essay is Aram Hamparian's 2011 "We're All Armenians", whether or not the Christian religion inspired Armenian art; the influence of Armenian art on Renaissance Italy; the evils of atheism; and because Armenians love historical obscurities, ARMENIANS AT TROY!!!  Not included in the abridged version is a discussion on the characteristics of the Armenian race, ultimately in relation to the idea of tseghagron, and religion and its importance to the state, etc. etc.</p><p> </p><p>For your approval and comment:</p><p> </p><p><a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="http://radiotransmittinginasnowstorm.blogspot.com/2014/10/armenians-have-no-raison-detre-as.html" rel="external nofollow">http://radiotransmittinginasnowstorm.blogspot.com/2014/10/armenians-have-no-raison-detre-as.html</a></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">64596</guid><pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2014 22:45:44 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re-consecration of the Church in the Aragats village</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/63474-re-consecration-of-the-church-in-the-aragats-village/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>Re-consecration of the Church in the Aragats village</p><p> </p><p>On July 27, the Feast of the Transfiguration of Our Lord Jesus Christ, the re-consecration of the Holy Mother of God Church of the Aragats village was offered by His Grace Bishop Mkrtich Proshyan, Primate of the Aragatsotn Diocese. Benefactor of the church was Mr. Aghvan Karapetyan.</p><p>Եկեղեցու վերաօծում Արագած գյուղում</p><p>Հուլիսի 27-ին՝ Վարդավառի տոնին, Արագածոտնի թեմի առաջնորդ գերաշնորհ Տ. Մկրտիչ եպս. Պռոշյանի ձեռամբ, վերաօծվեց Արագած գյուղի Սբ. Աստվածածին եկեղեցին: Եկեղեցու բարերարը Աղվան Կարապետյանն է:</p><p> </p><p> </p><iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://hyeforum.com/applications/core/interface/index.html" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen data-embed-src="//www.youtube.com/embed/HzLXhYHf1n8"></iframe>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">63474</guid><pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2014 23:45:43 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Consecration of the Holy Mother of God Church in Norabats Village</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/63473-consecration-of-the-holy-mother-of-god-church-in-norabats-village/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>Consecration of the Holy Mother of God Church in Norabats Village</p><p> </p><p>The consecration of the Holy Mother of God Church of Norabats village in the Ararat region was offered by His Eminence Archbishop Navasard Kjoyan, Vicar of the Araratian Pontifical Diocese. Mr. Serj Sargsyan, President of the Republic of Armenia was in attendance for the ceremony. Benefactor of the church is the Galustyan family of Norabats.</p><p>Օծվեց Նորաբացի Ս. Աստվածածին եկեղեցին</p><p>Արարատյան հայրապետական թեմի առաջնորդական փոխանորդ գերաշնորհ Տ. Նավասարդ արք. Կճոյանի ձեռամբ օծվեց Արարատի մարզի Նորաբաց գյուղի Ս. Աստվածածին եկեղեցին: Օծման արարողությանը ներկա էր նաեւ ՀՀ նախագահ տիար Սերժ Սարգսյանը: Եկեղեցու բարերարը նույն գյուղի Գալստյան ընտանիքն է:</p><p> </p><p><iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://hyeforum.com/applications/core/interface/index.html" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen data-embed-src="//www.youtube.com/embed/D2-7PccMQ40"></iframe></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">63473</guid><pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2014 23:42:12 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Pope Francis Hosts Armenian Catholicos at Vatican</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/61018-pope-francis-hosts-armenian-catholicos-at-vatican/</link><description><![CDATA[<p><span>http://asbarez.com/App/Asbarez/images/asbarez_01_460x101.jpg</span></p><p><span style="color:rgb(144,144,144);font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:11px;background-color:rgb(252,252,252);">Thursday, May 8th, 2014</span></p><p> </p>	Pope Francis Hosts Armenian Catholicos at Vatican<div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(252,252,252);color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><br><p style="font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;"> </p><div style="margin:8px;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(238,238,238);text-align:center;"><a class="" href="http://asbarez.com/App/Asbarez/eng/2014/05/Garegin-II-Pope-2.jpg" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://asbarez.com/App/Asbarez/eng/2014/05/Garegin-II-Pope-2.jpg</span></a><p class="" style="font-size:10px;background-color:transparent;">Pope Francis and Catholicos Karekin II meet at the Vatican's Apostolic Palace</p></div><br>VATICAN CITY—Pope Francis received the Patriarch of the Armenian Apostolic Church, Catholicos Karekin II, on Thursday at the Vatican. The Catholicos is in Rome on a three-day visit that concludes on May 9. In remarks prepared for the occasion, Pope Francis recalled Pope St. John Paul II’s 2001 visit to Armenia, and the many other visits the Catholicos has made to Rome and to the Popes in the Vatican, especially his 2008 visit to Pope Benedict XVI and his participation in the inauguration of Pope Francis’ own pontificate.<p style="font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;"> </p><p style="font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;">The Holy Father went on to recall Catholicos Karekin’s participation in the Jubilee year commemoration of the Witnesses to the Faith of the 20th century.</p><p style="font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;"><strong>“In truth,” said Pope Francis, “the number of disciples who shed their blood for Christ in the tragic events of the last century is certainly superior to that of the martyrs of the first centuries, and in this martyrdome, the children of the Armenian nation have a place of honor.” Pope Francis went on to say, “The mystery of the Cross, Holiness, so dear to the memory of your people, represented in the splendid stone crosses that adorn every corner of your land, has been lived by countless of your children as a direct participation in the chalice of the Passion.” “Their testimony,” he continued, “at once high and tragic, must not be forgotten.”</strong></p><p style="font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;">Pope Francis went on to say that the suffering endured by Christians in recent decades has brought a unique and inestimable contribution also to the cause of Christian unity.</p><p style="font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;">“As in the ancient Church, the blood of the martyrs became the seed of new Christians,” said Pope Francis, “so in our day the blood of many Christians has become the seed of unity.” The Pope continued, saying, “The ecumenism of suffering and the ecumenism of martyrdom, the ecumenism of blood is a powerful call to journey along the road of reconciliation among the Churches, with decision and with trusting abandonment to the action of the Spirit.” Pope Francis said, “We feel the duty to go down this road of fraternity, also because of the debt of gratitude we owe to the suffering of our brothers, which has become salvific because it has been united to the passion of Christ.”</p><p style="font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;">Below is the transcript of Catholicos Karekin II’s speech at the Vatican.</p><p style="text-align:center;">***</p><p style="font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;">Remarks of His Holiness Karekin II, Supreme Patriarch and Catholicos of All Armenians On the Occasion of the Meeting with His Holiness Francis, Bishop of Rome and Pope of the Roman Catholic Church</p><p style="font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;">Your Holiness and Beloved Brother in Christ,</p><p style="font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;">We offer thanks to the Most High, that through His merciful will and Your Holiness’ kind hospitality, we once again enjoy the opportunity to renew the divine love between our Churches and our brotherhood with an embrace of Christian love; and standing before the imperatives of the present time, to strengthen the collaboration between our Churches. Today, with a joyful heart, we greet you with the words of the Psalmist, “Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity.” Psalm 132:1.</p><p style="font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;">Our memories of your enthronement ceremonies remain fresh, where we were present together with the president of the Republic of Armenia and representatives of our Sister Churches, and experienced the opportunity to pray for longevity and a fruitful reign for Your Holiness. A prolific time has passed since that memorable day. We have followed with happiness the multifaceted activities of Your Holiness, who with divine vigor, as the brave chief shepherd and with diligent dedication, is realizing his mission and increasing labors for the benefit of the vibrancy, welfare and reformation of the Catholic Church; and also contributes greatly to the reinforcement of the Christian faith and spiritual-moral values throughout the entire world, the defense of human rights, and the establishment of harmony and peace on earth. Your Holiness’ special attention to the youth, and your care for the poor and those in trouble, have resounded greatly in the souls of men, and strengthens the love for you and toward Christ’s Holy Church. <strong>Our Church too, ancient and established by the Holy Apostles, having shaken off the Soviet, God-denying years, and filled with new energy is accomplishing the God-commanded mission in Armenia – the biblical land of Ararat; and in Artsakh – the Republic of Nagorno Karabagh – that is struggling to secure recognition of its right to live free and independent; and in the life of our people dispersed throughout the various countries of the world.</strong> The Armenian Church places great importance and attention on working with the youth, to educate the young generation in spiritual and moral values, to supporting the poor, and to dealing with the contemporary challenges facing mankind, in accord with the holy inheritance of our fathers and the holy commandments of the Gospel.</p><p style="font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;">It is with contentment we reflect that as we triumph over the many challenges facing the Church, we have been able to record positive examples of cooperation with the Catholic Church. Indeed, the relationships between the Armenian and Catholic Churches have their historical roots. Our bilateral relations have been significantly effective during the reigns of Armenian Church pontiffs of luminous memory Gregory III Pahlavuni and St Nerses the Graceful, as well as the times of Popes Innocent II and Anastasius IV. And today as well, with thanks to God, relations are living an era of mutual development. Our relations are nourished by the reciprocal visits of the heads of our Churches, and on the diocesan and parochial levels, through inter-church activities and the realization of concurrent educational and charitable programs. Young Armenian clergy, who have continued their educations in Catholic institutions of higher learning, today are providing their selfless service to the Armenian Church. We place importance on the ongoing theological dialogue between the Ancient (Oriental) Orthodox Churches and the Catholic Church, whose goal is to elevate our commonalities and the reinforcement of our bilateral relationships.</p><p style="font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;">Dear Brother in Christ, our meeting today is symbolic, since on May 8 and 9, many nations and states commemorate the victory over the worldwide evil of fascism. Humanity, which has experienced the destructions and violence of two world wars in the 20th century, is still unable to free itself from the horrors of wars, humanitarian and environmental disasters, and political and economic crises. Today in different corners of the world, conflicts have erupted, which bring sorrow and suffering to men, dispense ruin and loss, and increase need and poverty. In our daily prayers are the people in those countries who find themselves in conflict, and in particular, Ukraine, the Middle East and Syria, which is among the cradles of Christianity, and for centuries was a dwelling place of peaceful coexistence for Muslim and Christian peoples.</p><p style="font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;"><strong>Recently added to the horrors occurring Syria was the destruction and removal of Armenians in the primarily Armenian-populated village of Kessab by militant extremists with the assistance of Turkey.</strong> We strongly condemn conflicts and terrorism that disrupt the peace of the world, and which are thoroughly against the will of God, as the Apostle says, “For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace.” 1 Corinthians 4:33.</p><p style="font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;"><strong>In Syria, in the deserts of Der Zor, rest thousands of Armenians who were victims of the 20th century’s first crime against of humanity – the Armenian Genocide. Syria gave refuge to the sons and daughters of the Armenians who survived the terrors. The saying is true that those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. Regrettably, by not condemning the Genocide of the Armenians at the time, the world bore witness to yet another crime that was implemented during the Second World War against the Jewish people. And still fresh in our memories are the genocides in Sudan and Darfur…</strong></p><p style="font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;"><strong>We are well aware that Your Holiness, during the years of your tenure in Argentina, and also now as the Pontiff of the Catholic Church, has presented your clear position on the Armenian Genocide. Next year, the Armenian people in Armenia and the Dispersion will commemorate the 100th anniversary of the Genocide of the Armenians. Dear Brother in Christ, we invite Your Holiness to visit the Mother See of Holy Etchmiadzin in 2015. It will be spiritually consoling for our sons and daughters to stand in united prayer with Your Holiness’ in the Mother Cathedral of the Descent of the Only Begotten, to offer supplications up to Almighty God for the innocent victims of the Genocide, for peace on earth and the wellbeing of mankind.</strong></p><p style="font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;">With feelings of boundless consolation, we also inform you that our Holy Church has commenced on the path of canonization of the martyrs of the Armenian Genocide, and by the merciful will of God, the process will be completed by 2015.</p><p style="font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;">We pray to God, to grant long years of sun-filled reign to Your Holiness, for the vibrancy of the Catholic Church and the prosperity of your faithful flock. May the Lord keep His Holy Church strong with countless graces, keep the brotherhood between our Churches strong, and grant a cloudless and tranquil sky over the entire earth and the whole of mankind.</p><p style="font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;">“Lead us, O Lord our God, and teach us to walk your path in righteousness; keep our life in peace, and our course according to Your will. Amen” Armenian Book of Hours (Breviary).</p></div><p> </p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">61018</guid><pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 19:50:26 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>return to...  Back to ... Armenian Apostolic church - From Kyanqi Xosq</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/60286-return-to-back-to-armenian-apostolic-church-from-kyanqi-xosq/</link><description><![CDATA[<p><span style="color:#b22222;"><span style="font-size:24px;"><strong>Վերադարձ դեպի հայրական տուն....</strong></span></span></p><p> </p><p>«Կյանքի խոսքի» հետևորդների հոսք` Հայ Առաքելական եկեղեցի</p><p>Ter Esayi<br>Երբ «Կյանքի խոսք» աղանդի պարագլուխը հայտարարեց, որ ինքը դառնում է կաթոլիկ եկեղեցու անդամ`անորոշության մեջ թողնելով աղանդի հետևորդներին, միայն 5 օրվա ընթացքում 25 աղանդավոր է եկել Հայ Առաքելական եկեղեցի. լրագրողների հետ զրույցում հայտնեց տեր Եսայի քահանա Արթենյանը: Նրա տեղեկացմամբ` ամեն օր «Կյանքի խոսքի» մի քանի հետևորդ է իրեն մոտենում և խնդրում Հայ Առաքելական եկեղեցու շարքերը ներգրավել: «Նրանք անորոշության մեջ են, նրանց շանտաժի են ենթարկում, թե` եթե չշարունակեք գալ մեր հավաքներին և տասանորդը չվճարեք` ձեր ընտանիքի հետ, ձեր երեխաների հետ դժբախտություն կպատահի, կամ էլ` Հայ Առաքելական եկեղեցին, քահանաներն ատում են ձեզ և ձեզ չեն ընդունի: Չկա նման բան, երկուսն էլ սուտ է»,- ասաց տեր Եսային: Նա նշեց նաև, որ աղանդի պարագլխի` իրենց եկեղեցուց հեռանալը միակ պատճառը չէր, որ աղանդի հետևորդները սկսել են դուրս գալ «Կյանքի խոսքից», դա ուղղակի առիթ էր: «Մինչ այդ բոլորի մոտ էլ կասկածներ կային, և ամենամեծ կասկածը ֆինանսական խնդրին էր վերաբերում: Մարդկանց խոստանում էին` եթե ընդգրկվեք «Կյանքի խոսքի» շարքերը, ձեր բիզնեսը կծաղկի, սակայն հակառակն էր լինում: Այսինքն` մարդկանց մեջ կուտակված բազում խնդիրներ կային»,- ասաց քահանան:</p><p>Մանրամասները` yerkir.am կայքում:</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>return t...  Back to ... Armenian Apostolic church</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">60286</guid><pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2014 21:56:28 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>How the Early Original Apostles Died</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/52799-how-the-early-original-apostles-died/</link><description><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size:18px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">How the Early Original Apostles Died<br /> <br /><strong>This is an eye opener, and a review on how those real martyrs died for their belief; why would Jesus let His Apostles die like that in place of giving them life in luxury and safety? In order to show that He spoke the TRUTH and <u>He is Who He His</u> like recorded in the New Testament; as His apostles would not die and put their life at risk if they were telling a LIE, they gladly died in order to emphasis that they were speaking the TRUTH and they were happy in their death as it was another testimony of TRUTH they spoke about and part of which is recorded in the New Testament. Only a very stupid person would die for a lie!</strong><br /><br />Jesus said: “Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed!!!”  (John 20:29)<br /> <br />1 – <strong>Matthew</strong><br />Suffered martyrdom in Ethiopia, killed by a sword wound.<br /><br />2 –<strong> Mark</strong><br />Died in Alexandria , Egypt , after being dragged by horses through the streets until he was dead.<br /><br />3 – <strong>Luke</strong><br />Was hanged in Greece as a result of his tremendous preaching to the lost.<br /><br />4 – <strong>John</strong><br />Faced martyrdom when he was boiled in huge basin of boiling oil during a wave of persecution in Rome .. However, he was miraculously delivered from death.  John was then sentenced to the mines on the prison island of Patmos. He wrote his prophetic Book of Revelation on Patmos . The apostle John was later freed and returned to serve as Bishop of Edessa in modern Turkey . He died as an old man, the only apostle to die peacefully.<br /><br />5 – <strong>Peter</strong> <br />He was crucified upside down on an x-shaped cross. According to church tradition it was because he told his tormentors that he felt unworthy to die in the same way that Jesus Christ had died.<br /><br />6 – <strong>James</strong><br />Just The leader of the church in Jerusalem , was thrown over a hundred feet down from the southeast pinnacle of the Temple when he refused to deny his faith in Christ. When they discovered that he survived the fall, his enemies beat James to death with a fuller’s club.<br /><br />* This was the same pinnacle where Satan had taken Jesus during the Temptation.<br /> <br />7 – <strong>James the Great</strong><br />Son of Zebedee, was a fisherman by trade when Jesus called him to a lifetime of ministry. As a strong leader of the church, James was ultimately beheaded at Jerusalem . The Roman officer who guarded James watched amazed as James defended his faith at his trial. Later, the officer walked beside James to the place of execution. Overcome by conviction, he declared his new faith to the judge and knelt beside James to accept beheading as a Christian.<br /> <br />8 – <strong>Bartholomew</strong><br />Also known as Nathaniel Was a missionary to Asia . He witnessed for our Lord in present day Turkey . Bartholomew was martyred for his preaching in Armenia where he was flayed to death by a whip.<br /> <br />9 – <strong>Andrew</strong><br />Was crucified on an x-shaped cross in Patras , Greece . After being whipped severely by seven soldiers they tied his body to the cross with cords to prolong his agony. His followers reported that, when he was led toward the cross, Andrew saluted it in these words: ‘I have long desired and expected this happy hour. The cross has been consecrated by the body of Christ hanging on it.’ He continued to preach to his tormentors for two days until he expired.<br /> <br />10 – <strong>Thomas</strong><br />Was stabbed with a spear in India during one of his missionary trips to establish the church in the sub-continent.<br /> <br />11 – <strong>Jude</strong><br />Was killed with arrows when he refused to deny his faith in Christ..<br /> <br />12 – <strong>Matthias</strong><br /> The apostle chosen to replace the traitor Judas Iscariot, was stoned and then beheaded.<br /> <br />13 – <strong>Paul</strong><br />Was tortured and then beheaded by the evil Emperor Nero at Rome in A.D. 67. Paul endured a lengthy imprisonment, which allowed him to write his many epistles to the churches he had formed throughout the Roman Empire . These letters, which taught many of the foundational doctrines of Christianity, form a large portion of the New Testament.<br /> <br />Perhaps this is a reminder to us that our sufferings here are indeed minor compared to the intense persecution and cold cruelty faced by the apostles disciples during their times for the sake of the Faith. And ye shall be hated of all men for My name’s sake said Jesus.</span></span><br /><br /> </p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">52799</guid><pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2013 03:47:04 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Covenant of Muhammad With Christians</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/56056-covenant-of-muhammad-with-christians/</link><description><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size:18px;">A book has been published, Nov. 2013, that "documents what is possibly the third foundational source of Islam: the Prophet's treaties and covenants among people of the Abrahamic faiths. Dr. Morrow, the author, brings forth exceptionally important findings that dictate peaceful coexistence among Jews, Christians, and Muslims, and includes multiple translations for comparison of how the Prophet and his followers treated Christians and Jews with respect and care, far beyond a mere tolerance."</span> writes Bridget Blomfield of University of Nebraska.</p><p>======================</p><p><strong>The Covenant of the Prophet Muhammad with the Christians of the World</strong> (II)</p><p><a href="http://covenantsoftheprophet.wordpress.com/2013/08/11/the-covenant-of-the-prophet-muhammad-with-the-christians-of-the-world-1538/" rel="external nofollow">http://covenantsoftheprophet.wordpress.com/2013/08/11/the-covenant-of-the-prophet-muhammad-with-the-christians-of-the-world-1538/</a><br /><br />(Rediscovered by Dr. Morrow and first published in 2013 from a manuscript which dates to 1538 CE)<br /><br />[by the Prophet Muhammad]<br /><br />[Translated by John Andrew Morrow in 2013]<br /><br /><span style="font-family:'trebuchet ms', helvetica, sans-serif;">In the Name of Allah, the Creator [al-Khaliq], the Living [al-Hayy], the Speaking [al-Natiq], the One who Remains after the Annihilation of Creation [al-Baqi ba‘d fana’ al-khaliq].<br /><br />This is a copy [nushah] of the covenant [‘ahd] which was written by Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allah ibn ‘Abd al-Muttalib for all the Christians [nasara].<br /><br />Copy [nuskhah] of the Covenant [kitab al-‘ahd]<br /><br />This covenant of Allah [‘ahd Allah] was ordered to be written by Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allah ibn ‘Abd al-Muttalib, the Messenger of Allah, may Allah’s peace and blessings be upon him and his family [alihi], to all the Christians and all the monks, to guard and protect them, because they are Allah’s trust among His Creations [wadi‘at Allah fi khalqihi] in order for the covenant to be a proof [hujjah] against them and there would be no claim against Allah after the Messenger. He made this a protection [dhimmah] from him and a protection for them by the authority of Allah, for Allah is All-Mighty [‘Aziz] and All-Wise [Hakim]. It was written by the Lion [asad] and the People of His Vocation [ahl al-millati] to all those who profess the Christian religion [da‘wat al-nasraniyyah] in the Eastern lands and its West, near and far, be they Arabs or non-Arabs [‘ajami], known or unknown, as a covenant [‘ahd] from him, a justice and tradition to be preserved.<br /><br />He who observes it holds to his Islam and is worthy of his religion [din]. He who breaks it [nakatha] and jeopardizes the covenant [‘ahd] which was ordered by the Messenger of Allah, and changes it, and transgresses what has been commanded, has rejected the Covenant of Allah [‘ahd Allah], denies the Oath of Allah [mithaq Allah], disdains his religion, and merits His Maledictions, whether he is a Sultan or anyone else among the believers [mu’minin] and the Muslims.<br /><br />I started by committing myself to the covenant, granted alliances [uhud] and pledges [mawathiq] to those who requested them from me and from all of my Muslim Community [millati min al-muslimin]. I gave them the Covenant of Allah [ahd Allah] and His Pledge [mithaq] and I placed them under the safeguard of His Prophets, His Chosen Ones [asfiya], His Friends [awliyyah] from among all the Believers [mu’minin] and the Muslims over time. My protection [dhimmati] and my security [mithaqi] represent the most solid covenant that Allah, the Most Exalted, has given a prophet sent in truth to demand obedience, to give obligations [farida], and to respect the covenant [‘ahd].<br /><br />The covenant of Allah [‘ahd Allah] is that I should protect their land [‘ard], their monasteries [al-diyar], with my power [qudrah], my horses, my men, my weapons [silahi], my strength [quwwati], and my Muslim followers [atba] in any region, far away or close by, and that I should protect their businesses. I grant security to them, their churches, their businesses, their houses of worship [buyut salawatihim], the places of their monks, the places of their pilgrims, wherever they may be found, be they in the mountains or the valleys, caves or inhabited regions, the plains or the desert and that I should protect their dhimmah, their faith [millah], and their religion [din], wherever they may be found in the East or West, in the sea or on land, the same way that I protect myself, my entourage [khasati], and the People of my Community [ahl al-millati] among the Muslims.<br /><br />I place them under my protection [dhimmah], my security [mithaq], and my trust [aman] at every moment. I defend them from any damage, harm [makruh] or retribution [tabi‘a]. I am behind them, protecting them from every enemy or anyone who wishes them harm [muhdi]. I sacrifice myself for them by means of my helpers [a‘wani], my followers [atbai], and the People of my Community [ahl al-millah] because they are my flock [ra‘iyyah] and the people under my protection [ahl al-dhimmati], I extend [amudu] my authority [sulta], my care [ri‘ayyah], and my protection over them from every harm [makruh] so that it does not reach them. No harm will reach them unless it reaches my Companions [ashab] who [are there to] protect them and assist Islam [nusrat].<br /><br />I remove from them the harm from taxes and loan in the supplies borne to the People of the Pact [ahl al-ahd] except what they themselves consent to give. They should not be compelled or unfairly treated in this matter.<br /><br />It is not permitted to remove a bishop from his bishopric, a monk from his monastic life, a Christian from his Christianity, an ascetic [zahid] from his tower, or a pilgrim from his pilgrimage. Nor is it permitted to destroy any part of their churches or their businesses or to take parts of their buildings to construct mosques or the homes of believing Muslims [mu’minin al-muslimin]. Whoever does such a thing will have violated the covenant of Allah [‘ahd Allah], disobeyed [khalafa] his Messenger, and deviated [hadha] from His Divine Alliance.<br /><br />It is not permitted to impose a capitation [jizyah] or any kind of land tribute [kharaj] on monks, bishops or those who are worshippers among them, who, by devotion, wear woolen clothing [al-suf] or live alone in the mountains or in other regions secluded from human presence.<br /><br />The capitation [jizyah] will be applied to those Christians who are not clerics [man la yattabad] with the exception of the monk and the pilgrim in the amount of four dirhams per year or an inexpensive cloak [tawb]. He who does not have the money or the food with which to feed himself, the Muslims will help him by means of the savings stored in the Treasury [bayt al-mal]. If they find difficulties in securing food, the Muslims will also help them, provided they willingly accept.<br /><br />May the land tribute [jizyah al-kharaj] on big business by land or sea, pearl-diving, mining for precious stones, gold and silver, or those who are wealthy among those who profess the Christian faith, not exceed twelve dirhams [fiddah] per year, so long as they are inhabitants and residents in these countries.<br /><br />May nothing similar be demanded of travelers, who are not residents of the country or wayfarers whose country of residence is unknown. There shall be no land tax with capitation for others than those who own land as will the other occupants of lands over which the ruler has a right. They will pay taxes as others pay them without, however, the charges unjustly exceeding the measure of their means. As for the labor force which the owners spend upon to cultivate these lands, to render them fertile, and to harvest them, they are not to be taxed excessively. Let them pay in the same fashion and justly that which was imposed on other similar tributaries.<br /><br />The people under our protection [ahl al-dhimmah] will not be obliged to go to war with the Muslims in order to combat their enemies and to attack them. Indeed, the people under our protection [ahl al-dhimmah] are not to engage in war. It is precisely to discharge them of this obligation that this pact has been granted to them as well as to assure them the help and protection of the Muslims. They will not be constrained to provide equipment to any of the Muslims, in arms or horses, in the event of a war in which the Muslims attack their enemies, unless they contribute to the cause freely. And what the Muslims have borrowed will be guaranteed by the [state] Treasury [bayt al-mal] until it is returned to them. If they die or are damaged, the [state] Treasury [bayt al-mal] will provide monetary compensation.<br /><br />No one who practices the Christian religion will be forced to enter into Islam. And dispute ye not with the People of the Book, except with means better [29:46]. They must be covered by the wing of mercy and all harm that could reach them, wherever they may find themselves and wherever they may be, must be repelled.<br /><br />If a Christian were to commit a crime or an offense, Muslims must provide him with help, defense, and protection, as well as pay his penalty for him. They should encourage reconciliation between him and the victim, to help or save him.<br /><br />The Muslims must not abandon him or leave him without help and assistance because I have given them a covenant of Allah which is binding upon the Muslims.<br /><br />In virtue of this pact, they have obtained inviolable rights to enjoy our protection, to be protected from any infringement of their rights, and they are not to be disputed, rejected, or ignored so that they will be bound to the Muslims both in good and bad fortune.<br /><br />The girls of the Christians must not be subject to suffer, by abuse, on the subject of marriages which they do not desire. Muslims should not take Christian girls in marriage against the will of their parents nor should they oppress their families in the event that they refused their offers of engagement and marriage. Such marriages should not take place without their desire and agreement and without their approval and consent.<br /><br />If a Muslim takes a Christian woman as a wife, he must respect her Christian beliefs. He will give her freedom to listen to her [clerical] superiors as she desires and to follow the path of her own religion. Whoever, despite this order, forces his [Christian] wife to act contrary to her religion, he will have broken the alliance of Allah and broken the promise [mithaq] of His Messenger and he will be counted, by us, among the liars [kadhibin].<br /><br />If the Christians approach you seeking the help and assistance of the Muslims in order to repair their churches and their convents, or to arrange matters pertaining to their affairs and religion, these [Muslims] must help and support them. However, they must not do so with the aim of receiving any reward or debt. On the contrary, they should do so to restore that religion, out of faithfulness to the pact of the Messenger of Allah, by pure donation, and as a meritorious act before Allah and His Messenger.<br /><br />In matters of war between them and their enemies, the Muslims will not employ any Christian as a messenger, scout, guide, to show power, or for any other duty of war. Whoever obliges one of them to do such a thing will be unjust [zaliman] towards Allah, disobedient [‘asiyan] to His Messenger, and will be cast out [mutakhaliyan] from his religion. Nothing is permitted to a Muslim [with regards to the Christians] outside of obeying these edicts which Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allah, the Messenger of Allah, has passed in favor of the religion of the Christians.<br /><br />I am also placing conditions [upon the Christians] and I demand that they promise to fulfill and satisfy them as commands their religion. Among other things, none of them may act as a scout, spy, either overtly or covertly, on behalf of an enemy of war, against a Muslim. None of them will shelter the enemies of the Muslims in their homes from which they could await the moment to launch an attack. May these enemies [of the Muslims] never be allowed to halt in their regions, be it in their villages, their oratories, or in any other place belonging to their co-religionists. They must not provide any support to the war enemies of the Muslims by furnishing them with weapons, horses, men or call for unnecessary things. They must not annoy them and they should be honored as long as they persist in their religion and their care for their pact. They must grant Muslims three days and three nights when they halt among them. They must offer them, wherever they are found, and wherever they are going, the same food with which they live themselves, without, however, being obliged to endure other annoying or onerous burdens.<br /><br />If a Muslim needs to hide in one of their homes or oratories, they must grant him hospitality, give him help, and provide him with their food during the entire time he will be among them, making every effort to keep him concealed and to prevent the enemy from finding him, while providing to all of his needs.<br /><br />Whoever contravenes or alters the ordinances of this edict will be cast out of the alliance between Allah and His Messenger.<br /><br />May everyone abide by the treaties and alliances which have been contracted with the monks, and which I have contracted myself, wherever they may be.<br /><br />The Messenger of Allah, may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, must respect what he has granted, on his authority and all the Muslims, to guard them and have mercy on them until the end, until the Hour of [Resurrection] arrives, and the world comes to an end.<br /><br />Whoever is unjust after this towards a [Christian] subject [dhimmi], breaks the covenant and rejects it, I will be his enemy on the Day of Judgment among all the Muslims.<br /><br />As witness to this covenant [kitab]–which was written by Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allah, the Messenger of Allah, may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, to all the Christians [jami‘] to whom he put conditions in it, and for whom he wrote the following covenant [‘ahd]–there are thirty witnesses:<br /><br />Abu Bakr al-Siddiq<br /><br />‘Umar ibn al-Khattab<br /><br />‘Uthman ibn ‘Affan<br /><br />‘Ali ibn Abi Talib<br /><br />Abu Dharr<br /><br />Abu al-Darda<br /><br />Abu Hurayrah<br /><br />‘Abd Allah ibn Mas‘ud<br /><br />al-‘Abbas ibn ‘Abd al-Malik<br /><br />Fadl ibn al-‘Abbas al-Zahri<br /><br />Talhah ibn ‘Abd Allah<br /><br />Sa‘id ibn Mu‘azz<br /><br />Sa‘id ibn Ubadah<br /><br />Thabit ibn Qays<br /><br />Yazid ibn Talit<br /><br />‘Abd Allah ibn Yazid<br /><br />Farsus ibn Qasim ibn Badr ibn Ibrahim<br /><br />Amir ibn Yazid [imam ibn Yazid?]<br /><br />Sahl ibn Tamim<br /><br />‘Abd al-‘Azim ibn al-Najashi<br /><br />———————-<br /><br />[different handwriting]<br /><br />‘Abd al-‘Azim ibn Husayn<br /><br />‘Abd Allah ibn ‘Amr ibn al-‘As<br /><br />‘Amr ibn Yasir<br /><br />Mu‘azim ibn Musa<br /><br />Hassan ibn Thabit<br /><br />Abu Hanifah<br /><br />‘Ubayd ibn Mansur<br /><br />Hashim ibn ‘Abd Allah<br /><br />Abu al-‘Azar<br /><br />Hisham ibn ‘Abd al-Muttalib<br /><br />‘Ali ibn Abi Talib, may Allah be pleased with him, wrote this covenant, and the manuscript [sijl] was written on a piece of leather [jild] that was not small. It remained at the Sultan’s authority and was sealed by the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him. All praise be to Allah.<br /><br />This blessed book [kitab al-mubarak] was completed on the holy day of Monday, in the last month of Ba‘una, the blessed, in the year of our Masters the Martyrs, the Pure Ones, the Felicitous, the Satisfied [abrar], may Allah grant us their intercession and may their intercession be with us. Amen!<br /><br />This corresponds to the 27th of the sacred [haram] month of Muharram of the year 945 of the Arabic hijrah. May Allah make its end good! Amen!<br /><br />This blessed book [kitab al-mubarak] belongs to the great soul [al-mubajjal], the master [al-mawla], the leader [al-ra’is], the elder [al-shaykh], the scholar [al-‘alim], Sum‘an, the son of [najl], the source of greatness [al-mu‘azzam] Fadl Allah, may Allah rest his soul in peace [nayaha allah nafsahu], known as [al-ma‘ruf] al-Barallusi.<br /><br />The writer of these words is the humble [miskin], full of faults and sins [khataya wa al-dunub], asking the brothers who read these words [lit. letters] to mention them in their prayers [salawat] and the Messiah [masih] will reward them one hundred and sixty three times.</span><br /> </p><p>=====================<br /><span style="font-size:18px;">Then what about negative verses that the Muslims believe in (and which were given as justification for the Armenian Genocide by Muslim Turks) about fighting and killing none-Muslims including the Christians &amp; Jews. Apparently such negative verses were later added on to the holy scripts of Islam for political imperialist reasons and ambitions and were never pronounced by their prophet Muhammad.</span> Hence the deception and rivers of blood.</p><p>Samples of such verses that were later inserts into Muslim books when the Koran was put into written form and all the rest of the holy writs were discarded, this happened after some 150 years of the death of Muhammad:<br /><br /> "the Messenger of Allah . . . would say: 'Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war. . . . When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. . . . Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them. . . . If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them . . .'" (Muslim Book 19, Number 4294).<br /><br />"fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war) . . . " (Qur’an 9:5).<br /><br />"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued" (Qur'an 9:29).<br /><br />"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter . . . " (Qur'an 5:33). [ibn Kathir says of this verse: "'Wage war' mentioned here means, oppose and contradict, and it includes disbelief, blocking roads and spreading fear in the fairways. Mischief in the land refers to various types of evil." So, Muhammad requires execution, crucifixion, or cutting off hands and feet from opposite sides for "disbelief."]<br /><br />"Allah's Apostle said: 'I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshiped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle . . . '" (Bukhari Volume 1, Book 2, Number 24).<br /><br />"It is not for any prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land. Ye desire the lure of this world and Allah desireth (for you) the Hereafter, and Allah is Mighty, Wise" (Qur'an 8:67).<br /><br />"Allah’s Apostle said, 'I have been made victorious with terror'" (Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220).<br />==========<br /><span style="font-size:24px;">As part of the remembrance 100th anniversary of our genocide, the financing of the translation of this book of John Morrow (more info about the book coming below) into Turkish and Azeri languages and their distribution widely in Turkey and Azerbaijan. Also the promotion of this book by media means into to the people of those countries should be undertaken by the Armenians. Hopefully then Turks and Tartars (Tartars are now in power in Azerbaijan) will rise above their animal-savagery by harboring good will toward Armenians and someday bless us in place of more killings.</span></p><p> </p><p>About this single discovered document, Muqtedar Khan the Director of Islamic Studies at the University of Delaware, writes: "The first and the final sentence of the charter are critical. They make the promise eternal and universal. Muhammed asserts that Muslims are with Christians near and far, straight away rejecting any future attempts to limit the promise to St. Catherine alone. By ordering Muslims to obey it until the Day of Judgment the charter again undermines any future attempts to revoke the privileges. These rights are inalienable. Muhammed declared Christians, all of them, as his allies and he equated ill treatment of Christians with violating God's covenant.<br /><br />"A remarkable aspect of the charter is that it imposes no conditions on Christians for enjoying its privileges. It is enough that they are Christians. They are not required to alter their beliefs, they do not have to make any payments and they do not have any obligations. This is a charter of rights without any duties!<br /><br />"The document is not a modern human rights treaty, but even though it was penned in 628 A.D. it clearly protects the right to property, freedom of religion, freedom of work, and security of the [Christian] person."<br /><a href="http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/guestvoices/2009/12/prophet_muhammads_promise_to_christians.html" rel="external nofollow">http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/guestvoices/2009/12/prophet_muhammads_promise_to_christians.html</a></p><p> </p><p>Now about the book (you can look free inside of some 25 pages of the book with many illustrations at the post in Amazon)<br /><br /><strong>The Covenants of the Prophet Muhammad with the Christians of the World</strong><br />by John Andrew Morrow<br /><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Covenants-Prophet-Muhammad-Christians-World/dp/159731465X" rel="external nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Covenants-Prophet-Muhammad-Christians-World/dp/159731465X</a><br /><br /><span style="font-size:18px;">The Prophet Muhammad's treaties with the Christians of his time, which John Andrew Morrow has rediscovered in obscure collections and often newly translated, uniformly state that Muslims are not to attack peaceful Christian communities, but defend them "until the End of the World." Authored by the Prophet himself, they represent a third foundational pillar for Islam outside of Qur'an and hadith. The "Covenants Initiative" within the book represents a movement by Muslims, both prominent and unknown, in support of Christians under attack. These treaties desperately need to be better known among Christians, Muslims, and the general public.</span><br /> <br />For scholars, this book provides much difficult-to-obtain material: facsimiles of primary sources in Arabic and Persian; corrected versions in modern Arabic typescript; and alternate translations. They now have all they need to study the covenants in depth.<br /><br />Paperback: 466 pages<br />Publisher: Sophia Perennis (November 2, 2013)<br />Language: English<br />ISBN-10: 159731465X<br />ISBN-13: 978-1597314657<br /> </p><br /><p><br /> </p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">56056</guid><pubDate>Sat, 09 Nov 2013 18:23:39 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Koranic Law Versus Sharia Law - two different Islams</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/58063-koranic-law-versus-sharia-law-two-different-islams/</link><description><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size:small;">16:82 But if they <b>turn away from you, your only duty is a clear delivery of the Message </b></span></p><br><div><p> <br><span style="font-size:small;">4:79-80 Say: ‘Whatever good betides you is from God and whatever evil betides you is from your own self and that <b>We have sent you to mankind only as a messenger and all sufficing is God as witness. Whoso obeys the Messenger, he indeed obeys God. And for those who turn away, We have not sent you as a keeper."</b> </span><br><br><span style="font-size:small;">17:53-54 And tell my servants that they should speak in a most kindly manner. Verily, Satan is always ready to stir up discord between men; for verily; Satan is mans foe.... <b>Hence, we have not sent you with power to determine their Faith</b> </span><br><br><span style="font-size:small;">24.54. Say: "Obey God, and obey the Messenger, <b>but if ye turn away, he is only responsible for the duty placed on him and ye for that placed on you. If ye obey him, ye shall be on right guidance. The Messenger's duty is only to preach the clear (Message)</b>. </span><br><br><span style="font-size:small;">88:21 22; And so, <b>exhort them your task is only to exhort; you cannot compel them to believe</b>. </span><br><br><span style="font-size:small;">42:6 48 And whoso takes for patrons others besides God, over them does God keep a watch. Mark, you are not a keeper over them. But if they turn aside from you (do not get disheartened), <b>for We have not sent you to be a keeper over them; your task is but to preach</b> </span><br><br><span style="font-size:small;">64:12 Obey God then and obey the Messenger, <b>but if you turn away (no blame shall attach to our Messenger), for the duty of Our Messenger is just to deliver the message. </b></span><br><br><span style="font-size:small;">28.55-56 And when they hear vain talk, they turn away there from and say: "To us our deeds, and to you yours; peace be to you: we seek not the ignorant,"<b> It is true thou wilt not be able to guide whom thou lovest; but God guides those whom He will and He knows best those who receive guidance</b> </span><br><br><span style="font-size:small;">39:41 Assuredly, We have sent down the Book to you in right form for the good of man. Whoso guided himself by it does so to his own advantage, <b>and whoso turns away from it does so at his own loss. You certainly are not their keeper.</b> </span><br><br><span style="font-size:small;">67:25 26 And they ask, "When shall the promise be fulfilled if you speak the Truth?" Say, "The knowledge of it is verily with God alone,<b> and verily I am but a plain warner."</b> </span><br><br><br><span style="font-size:small;">As we can clearly see, many of the verses that talks about obeying the prophet also emphasizes the prophet's limited authority, something that the Islamic sects do not recognize. The ruler to them has the authority to punish people for what they consider sins like drinking alcohol, eating pork, not fasting Ramadan, watching pornos etc. </span><br><br><span style="font-size:small;">The Koran meanwhile focuses on crimes against another like stealing, killing, slandering of women falsely and oppression. It gave the believers the right to fight against those who fight them but not to transgress. It also gave people the right to defend themselves against evictions from their lands. There is no talk about punishing people for something that does not concern somebody else's right. </span><br><br><span style="font-size:small;">Adultery is the only place where the Koran diverted from this due to the fact that a adultery affects another party. Here the Koran sees adultery as affecting the other partner in a marriage. It’s a betrayal and a breaking of oath. But even then it placed strict standards on that but was lenient when it came to punishing slanders of women. Adultery needs four witnesses but the slander can get punished just from opening his mouth without four witnesses. It’s clear that the verse made it very difficult to implement on adultery but very easy to implement on the slanderer. Further reading of the verse about the Zani and Zania shows us that the issue came up concerning slandering of one of the prophet’s wife presumably. But adultery still affects another party as its a breaking of an oath between a man and a woman and is an act of betrayal. </span><br><br><span style="font-size:small;">The Koran cannot order the prophet to punish people for sins, that God's job. The Koran gave people the right and freedom to disbelieve let alone sin. Plus how the Koran understands sins is very different than how the sects understand sins. </span><br><br><span style="font-size:small;">In the end the sects had no choice but to abrogate many of these verses, usually invoking the "sword verse". They claim that many of these verses that gave the prophet limited authority(over those who chose to disobey him) has been abrogated by verse 9-5 or verse 9-29. </span><br><br><span style="font-size:small;">However these verses were about the wars with the pagans, and verse 9-13 and many other verses makes it clear who instigated these battles and why. The Jizya verse (9-29) also was claimed by the sects to be a tax to be paid by non Muslims in an Islamic state for protection. However Jizya never came concerning the Medina community where the prophet and his followers had a community. And only came upon the believers entering of Mecca. Jizya could have easily been compensation for the loss of property and homes that the believers suffered after being forced into exile. The Koran forbade prophets from seeking any form of reward. They can however accept charity on behalf of the believers. </span><br><br><span style="font-size:small;">But the Sunnah claimed otherwise. In it the prophet was ordered to fight the people till they acknowledge monotheism and also in it the prophet ordered the execution of those who apostate. That’s why they abrogated many of the verses that limited his authority. Then they simply transferred that authority to the Muslim ruler by default. The Ridda war story about Abu Bakr is a case study of this. In that story Abu Bakr apparently fought people for not paying Zakat. Now the authority was transferred from God to the prophet to one of his companions. This made it very easy to then transfer that authority to the ruler. This is why you see places where Shariah law is implemented filled with such concepts like searching cars for alcohol or flogging people for watching pornos or not wearing proper attire. None of this should concern anyone but it has become a punishable sin. God only punishes those who did not get caught and punished in this world. The sects claimed that once punished the sin falls away and disappears. You will not find such a concept in the Koran. There God punishes in a million ways and does not need humans to punish for him. I think the sects introduced this conc3ept to make people more accepting of this by making them think its better for them since God's punishment is more severe. They also introduced stoning the adulterer by claiming the Zina verse in the Koran is concerning fornification and not adultery. They claimed that the verse about stoning was lost and is not included in the Koran but the ruling remains. </span><br><br><span style="font-size:small;">This of course violated not only the freedom aspect of the Koran but also an eye for an eye and a life for a life. In the Koran, any punishment must be reciprocal and proportionate to the crime and it also must be targeted towards the actual perpetrators of the crime and not someone else associated to the criminal as the case with tribal laws that simply targets anyone from that tribe. They broke this by lower the bar for executions. Some Sunni scholars also gave the authority to execute homosexuals and enslave female prisoners and execute male prisoners. Something the Koran forbade. The Koran gave two options for prisoners, either freedom or ransom of some sort. They gave this authority to the ruler. This is all very sad as the taking of someone’s life is no easy matter in the Koran. God should take life and not humans, but if a person takes a life then he lost his right to live, but even then the Koran gave exile from the community as another option for murder especially if the person shows repentance. So an eye for an eye and a tooth for tooth somehow ended up being an eye for an eye lash and a tooth for a jaw. </span><br><br><span style="font-size:small;">To be fair the Sunni orthodoxy rarely practiced some of these laws. We know of no time in history where adulterers were stoned to death. Apostasy was rarely practiced, unlike the Christians in Europe that practiced these laws left and right. So the Sunni jurist knew that some of these laws could be controversial and therefore they tended to avoid them. </span><br><br><span style="font-size:small;">Its very unfortunate the current Islamist in Iran and Sudan and the Salafis in generally never understood why these laws were controversial. But in doing so they exposed much aspect of the sects that people were not aware of. The Sufis provided a convenient cover as they shunned legalism. But even the clerics understood that these laws were controversial. Its not easy in Islam to execute outside of murder. But this wise tradition was broken. That’s very unfortunant as now we see the culture of death has spread among Muslims till Islam became synonymous with violence and killing. Once you lower the bar it spirals out of control. </span><br><br><span style="font-size:small;">One thing is crystal clear from all this. The Koran's take on human authority and freedom is RADICALLY different than how the Sunni/Shia sects understand it. Therefore the biggest difference between a Koranic state and a Sunni or Shia state will come in the form of the state's authority over the masses. It is this, more than anything else, that separates the Koran from the Sunnah. That’s why the Abbasids championed the Sunnah over the Mutazilites. The Mutaziltes couldn't find the ink inthe Koran to give them such draconian authority. The sects did that by first bringing the divine authority from God to prophet, then propet to Caliph (companions) and now that authority is in Omar Al Bashir, Khamenei, Mullah Omar and Al Saud. And that’s very sad.</span></p></div><p> </p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">58063</guid><pubDate>Sun, 26 Jan 2014 13:33:38 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Persecution of Christians</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/58470-persecution-of-christians/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>Persecution of Christians Increases in Countries Labelled as ‘Failed’<br />Jan 08 2014<br /><a href="http://www.opendoorsusa.org/press/2014/January/Persecution-of-Christians-Increases" rel="external nofollow">http://www.opendoorsusa.org/press/2014/January/Persecution-of-Christians-Increases</a><br />WASHINGTON, D.C. (Jan. 8, 2014) – For the 12th consecutive year the hermit communist country of North Korea remains the world’s most restrictive nation in which to practice Christianity, according to the Open Doors 2014 World Watch List (WWL). However, a major trend which the WWL tracked in 2013 was a marked increase in persecution for Christian communities in states that are commonly regarded as “failed.” A failed country is defined “as a weak state where social and political structures have collapsed to the point where government has little or no control.”<br /><br />The top 10 countries where Christians faced the most pressure and violence in the 2013 reporting period of the 2014 WWL are: North Korea, Somalia, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Maldives, Pakistan, Iran and Yemen. For the complete list, go to www.worldwatchlist.us</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">58470</guid><pubDate>Sat, 08 Feb 2014 20:37:30 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Show of unity</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/58504-show-of-unity/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>Christian rivals find unity in Nativity church restoration<br /><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/christian-rivals-unity-nativity-church-restoration-045701236.html" rel="external nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/christian-rivals-unity-nativity-church-restoration-045701236.html</a><br />February 8, 2014<br /><br />Bethlehem (AFP) - When Pope Francis visits Bethlehem in May he will see scaffolding covering the roof of the Church of the Nativity. It may be an eyesore, but it symbolizes a rare show of unity among rival Christian faiths that are working together to restore the ancient basilica.<br /><br />Built in the fourth century by the Roman Emperor Constantine and restored by Justinian after a fire in the sixth century, the shrine over the cave where Jesus is believed to have been born is undergoing a major renovation.<br />-----<br />Father Stephane Milovich, a Franciscan and former caretaker at the church, says it has turned out to be a blessing that the project is getting under way only now, as a cooperative venture among his order, the Greek Orthodox and the Armenian churches.<br /><br />"A century ago the Greeks, the Armenians and the Franciscans wouldn't have cooperated," he said. "We have a building which has not changed, which is why we must save</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">58504</guid><pubDate>Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:07:43 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Extinction of christianity in the M.E.</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/54645-extinction-of-christianity-in-the-me/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>The silence of our friends – the extinction of Christianity in the Middle East<br />by Ed West    23 September 2013 166 comments<br /><br /><a href="http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2013/09/the-silence-of-our-friends-the-extinction-of-christianity-in-the-middle-east/" rel="external nofollow">http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2013/09/the-silence-of-our-friends-the-extinction-of-christianity-in-the-middle-east/</a><br /><br /><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:'courier new', courier, monospace;">A voice in UK has concerns on Christians in ME</span></span></p><p> </p><p>The last month and a half has seen perhaps the worst anti-Christian violence in Egypt in seven centuries, with dozens of churches torched. Yet the western media has mainly focused on army assaults on the Muslim Brotherhood, and no major political figure has said anything about the sectarian attacks.</p><p> </p><p>Last week at the National Liberal Club there was a <a href="http://www.lapidomedia.com/node/3380" rel="external nofollow">discussion</a> asking why the American and British press have ignored or under-reported this persecution, and (in some people’s minds) given a distorted narrative of what is happening.</p><p> </p><p>Among the four speakers was the frighteningly impressive Betsy Hiel of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, who has spent years in Egypt and covered Iraq and Afghanistan. There were lots of stories of Muslims protecting Christian neighbours, but there were also incidents with frightening echoes; Hiel described a man riding on his bike past a burned down church and laughing, which brought to my mind the scene in <i>Schindler’s List</i> when local Poles make throat-slitting gestures to Jews en route to Auschwitz.</p><p> </p><p>Some of this has been reported, but the focus has been on the violence committed against the Brotherhood. Judging by the accounts given by one of the other speakers, Nina Shea of the Center for Religious Freedom, the American press is even more blind, and their government not much better; when Mubarak was overthrown one US agency assessed the Muslim Brotherhood as being ‘essentially secular’.</p><p> </p><p>The night ended with historian Tom Holland declaring sadly that we are now seeing the extinction of Christianity and other minority faiths in the Middle East. As he pointed out, it’s the culmination of the long process that began in the Balkans in the late 19th century, [extended to Historic Armenia and Anatolia], reached its horrific European climax in 1939-1945, and continued with the Greeks of Alexandria, the Mizrahi Jews and most recently the Chaldo-Assyrian Christians of Iraq. [and presently in Syria]. The Copts in Egypt may have the numbers to hold on, Holland said, and the Jews of Israel, but can anyone else?</p><p> </p><p>Without a state (and army) of their own, minorities are merely leaseholders. The question is whether we can do anything to prevent extinction, and whether British foreign policy can be directed towards helping Christian interests rather than, as currently seems to be the case, the Saudis.</p><p> </p><p>The saddest audience question was from a young man who I’m guessing was Egyptian-British. He asked: ‘Where was world Christianity when this happened?’</p><p> </p><p>Nowhere. Watching X-Factor. Debating intersectionality. Or just too frightened of controversy to raise Muslim-on-Christian violence.</p><p> </p><p>Bishop Angaelos, leader of the UK Copts, also expressed disappointment at the response from other religious leaders, saying that if Christians burned down 10 synagogues or mosques, let alone 50, they’d be going over to show their sympathy and shame.</p><p>The most outspoken British religious leader has been Rabbi Jonathan Sacks, and the debate brought to mind something Rabbi Sacks recently said about Middle Eastern Christians, comparing their fate with those of the Jews in Europe, and quoting Martin Luther King: ‘In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.’</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">54645</guid><pubDate>Thu, 26 Sep 2013 01:09:46 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Head of Armenian church in Turkey asks govt. to pay staff wages</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/58291-head-of-armenian-church-in-turkey-asks-govt-to-pay-staff-wages/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>Head of Armenian church in Turkey asks govt. to pay staff wages<br><br>February 1, 2014 - 17:50 AMT<br><br><br>PanARMENIAN.Net - A priest from a local Armenian church in Istanbul's<br>Sariyer district has asked the Turkish government's Department of<br>Religious Affairs to cover the wages of the church's staff.<br><br>Admitting that he is no longer able to pay the salaries, Boyacikoy<br>Church head Nazaret Ozsahakyan requested the state's religious affair<br>department (Diyanet) to take over the responsibility. The Diyanet,<br>however replied that they were already paying the electricity bill of<br>the church and had no authority to pay the priests' wages.<br><br>Upon receiving this reply, Nazaret Ozsahakyan complained to Turkey's<br>first ombudsman Mehmet Nihat Omeroglu, appealing for the wages of all<br>church and synagogue staff to be paid for by the state.<br><br>The parliament's former Human Rights Council leader Mehmet Elkatmis<br>later met with Armenian, Greek Orthodox and Syriac church<br>representatives to discuss the issue.<br><br>Elkatmis said that Turkey does not pay of the wages of the employees<br>of an individual church, and that should the government decide to<br>accept the responsibility, it would cover the wages of all employees<br>of all churches.<br><br>Should such a decision be made, it will be likely to include Turkey's<br>Jewish and Alevi communities as well.<br><br>Ozsahakyan reportedly said that having lived on Turkey's soil for<br>thousands of years, this was the first time his congregation was<br>seeking this assistance, adding that just like everyone else in the<br>country they have been paying their taxes and should therefore be<br>entitled to the same rights.<br><br>"Imams and priests should be treated equally," he said, adding that he<br>was willing to take the case as far as the constitutional court.<br><br>The spiritual leader of the Syriac Orthodox church Yusuf Cetin said<br>that his congregation had 40 employees who had all done their military<br>service, were paying their taxes and wanted to be given the same<br>rights and wages as imams.<br><br>"We love this country and we have no other land," the Syriac patriarch added.<br><br>Armenian Church patriarch Aram Atesyan said that after meeting with<br>Mehmet Elkamis, the representatives had been asked to prepare a report<br>including all the technical details of their demands.<br><br><br><a data-ipb="nomediaparse" href="http://www.panarmenian.net/eng/news/175471/" rel="external nofollow">http://www.panarmenian.net/eng/news/175471/</a></p><div> </div>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">58291</guid><pubDate>Mon, 03 Feb 2014 17:44:10 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>The Ebionites</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/58260-the-ebionites/</link><description><![CDATA[<p><em>Another reason that the Ebionites had influenced Islam greatly in a direct way is the same view held by Ebionites and Muslims; namely that the Christian scriptures in the New Testament are corrupted and changed from its original version, and that Jesus never said He was the Son of God.</em><br /><br /><strong>Who Were the Ebionites?</strong><br /><a href="http://www.compassionatespirit.com/ebionites-article.htm" rel="external nofollow">http://www.compassionatespirit.com/ebionites-article.htm</a><br /><br />The Ebionites (from Hebrew ebionim, "the poor") were a sect of early followers of Jesus. They were one of several "Jewish Christian" groups, early followers of Jesus who considered themselves Jews.  <br /><br />They thought of themselves as the true followers of Jesus, but were described as heretics by many early orthodox Christian writers.  Some modern writers and groups, including a number of scholars, argue that the Ebionites represented the views of Jesus and of early Christianity better than other early Christian groups.  <br /><br /><strong>Sources</strong><br /><br />There are two chief sources for our knowledge of the literature and ideas of the Ebionites:<br /><br />1. Descriptions of the Ebionites and brief quotations from their writings by the church fathers, most importantly Irenaeus, Hippolytus, and Epiphanius of Salamis, all of whom considered the Ebionites to be heretics. The lengthiest and most complete of these comes from Epiphanius, who wrote his Panarion in the fourth century, describing and denouncing 80 heretical sects, among them the Ebionites (Panarion 30) and various other "Jewish Christian" and allied groups (Panarion 18, 19, 29, 53).  <br /><br />2. The pseudo-Clementine literature, especially the Recognitions of Clement and The Clementine Homilies, two third-century Christian works, are regarded by general scholarly consensus as largely or entirely Jewish-Christian and specifically Ebionite in origin. This can be found in volume 8 of the Ante-Nicene Fathers.<br /><br /><strong>History of the Ebionites</strong><br /><br />The Ebionites were a group in the early Christian church which was "Jewish Christian" in orientation, claiming to be the descendants of the original church, observing the Jewish law as they interpreted it but also following Jesus. All of the sources specifically mentioned above agree that the Ebionites denied the divinity of Jesus and accepted the Jewish law. There is general agreement also that they believed in one God, the creator, thus rejecting the views of Marcion; and further that they rejected Paul.<br /><br />According to Epiphanius, they rejected orthodox Christian beliefs about the divinity of Jesus, were vegetarians, opposed animal sacrifice, and rejected certain texts in the Jewish scriptures (most especially, those pertaining to animal sacrifice). They were loyal to the Mosaic law, but had an idiosyncratic view of that law.  They called themselves Ebionites (based on ebionim, "the poor") because, they said, at the time of the apostles they gave all their possessions to the early church (Acts 4:32-35). The Ebionites claimed to have the biological relatives of Jesus among their own number, described by ancient writers as the "desposynoi" ("those who belong to the master").<br /><br />Epiphanius describes a group which holds views remarkably similar to those in the Recognitions and Homilies. They accepted Jesus as the "true prophet," believe that Christ was in Adam, in the virtue of poverty, reject animal sacrifices, reject the false texts in the (Old Testament) scripture, are vegetarians, and practice daily baptism. Epiphanius says that the "false texts" that the Ebionites reject have to do with commands to offer animal sacrifice; the Homilies go on to describe a number of other passages considered unworthy of God, such as those the Ebionites considered to be questioning God’s omnipotence, knowledge, love, peaceful nature, and righteousness. Epiphanius quotes their gospel as ascribing the words to Jesus, "I have come to destroy the sacrifices" (Panarion 30.16.5), and as ascribing to Jesus rejection of the Passover meat (Panarion 30.22.4), analogous to numerous passages found in the Recognitions and Homilies (e.g. Recognitions 1.36, 1.54, Homilies 3.45, 7.4, 7.8).<br /><br />They existed just outside of Judea, in Galilee and present-day Syria and Jordan (the Decapolis, Gaulanitis, Perea, and Nabatea, and nearby regions). The exact origin of the Ebionites is debated, but those who held views characteristic of the Ebionites existed in the first century. The Ebionites originated no later than the second century (when they are mentioned by Ireneaus) and continued to exist at least down through the late fourth century (when Epiphanius describes conversations he had with them), and probably continued into the fifth century and perhaps beyond. There are no known modern groups which are direct lineal descendants of the ancient Ebionites.<br /><br /><strong>Writings of the Ebionites</strong><br /><br />No independent writings of the Ebionites are known to have survived to the present day. We know of such writings only because the church fathers refer to them and occasionally quote from them. Epiphanius describes a gospel of the Ebionites, an Ebionite "acts of the apostles," the "travels of Peter," and "the Ascents of James." Other church fathers, such as Jerome, sometimes quote from one or another of the gospels attributed to the Ebionites.<br /><br /><strong>Relationship of the Ebionites to other Jewish Christian groups</strong><br /><br />A number of other groups are described by ancient writers or modern scholars as "Jewish Christian." Among these are the Nazoraeans (the spelling is uncertain), Cerinthians, Symmachians (followers of the Ebionite scribe Symmachus), Elkasaites (the spelling is uncertain), Sampsaeans, and Ossaeans. Much less is known about these other groups than about the Ebionites. The relationship of these other groups to each other, whether they existed independently of each other, and what their views are, is debated by modern scholars and ancient writers. Epiphanius clearly distinguishes between "Ebionites" and the "Nazoraeans," but Jerome evidently believes (Letter 112) that they are both the same group.<br /><br />It is generally agreed that the Cerinthians were not "Jewish Christian" at all, but only mistakenly described as "Jewish Christian" by the church fathers, and that the Elkasaites, the Sampsaeans, and Ossaeans — the latter two groups mentioned only by Epiphanius in ancient writings — are different names, as Epiphanius says, for the same group.</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">58260</guid><pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 23:12:51 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Pre-Christian Religions of Armenians</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/3246-pre-christian-religions-of-armenians/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>Pre-Christian Religions </p><p> </p><p> <span>http://www.15levels.com/armenia/ornament-a.gif</span> The earliest Armenian pantheon was most likely similar to the pre-historic Indo-European pantheon; and, it probably included eponymous and other legendary heroes as well. It seems that the Armenians also had nature gods and, indeed, worshiped the elements. During the fifth century BC, the Armenians adopted the Iranian form of these divinities and domesticated them. Ahura-Mazda, who assumed the status of father of the gods, was worshipped as Aramazd. </p><p> </p><p>Mithra, god of light and justice, was known as Mihr. Anahita, goddess of fertility and mother of all wisdom, became Anahit--the favorite goddess of the Armenians. . <span>http://www.15levels.com/armenia/anahit.gif</span>  Verethrangna, the god of war, was worshipped as Vahagn. Astghik was the goddess of love. Tir, the scribe of Aramazd, was the god of science and the recorder of man's deeds of good and evil. Barshamin and Nane, probably of Syrian origin, also formed part of the Armenian pantheon. </p><p> </p><p>With the conquests of Alexander the Great (356-323 BC), and the successor Seleucid Empire, Armenia entered the Hellenistic orbit and identified its gods (as did the Romans and others) with the Greek pantheon. Thus Aramazd became Zeus; Mihr became Hephaestus; Anahit became Artemis; Vahagn became Heracles; Astghik became Aphrodite; Tir became Apollo; and Nane became Athena; only Barshamin retained his original form. </p><p> </p><p>This characteristic syncretism also appears in Persia, where Ahura-Mazda became Zeus; Mithra became Apollo; and Anahita became Athena. </p><p>Pagan Greek priests brought cult statues of the gods to Armenia and placed them in Hellenistic temples. Thus, an Irano-Greek form of paganism existed in Armenia, along with the worship of local spirits, up until the establishment of Christianity in the early fourth century. Some aspects of the old religion survived in folklore and customs for centuries thereafter. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>The weakening of the Seleucids allowed the founding of the Armenian Artaxid dynasty (189 BC). Sometime later, the Artaxiad Tigranes II, the Great, (95-55 BC),  <span>http://www.15levels.com/armenia/tigran_mon_Hellenist.gif</span>  along with his ally Mithradates VI (Eupator) of Pontus established a short-lived Armenian-Hellenistic empire which stretched from the Caucasus to Lebanon, and from Mesopotamia to the Pontic Alps. By this time the great Armenian feudal nobility (the nakharars) were well established. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>The empire of Tigranes was destroyed by the Romans, who were gradually expanding into the Middle East. Roman incursions were led in turn by Lucullus, Pompey, Crassus, Mark Antony (who captured Artavasdes II by ruse), and Caius Caesar (sent by his grandfather the Emperor Augustus). Western Armenia thus fell under Roman hegemony, while the eastern territories came to be dominated by the Parthians. </p><p> </p><p>Trdat, the brother of the last important Parthian king, Vologases I (AD 51-77), was appointed by him as king of Armenia (AD 52). Trdat was also recognized by Rome (AD 66), and thus he became the founder of the Arsacid (Parthian) dynasty which ruled Armenia until AD 428.</p><p> </p><p>With the rise of the second Persian empire (Sassanid, AD 226-651), eastern Armenia was drawn more deeply into the Iranian orbit, while western Armenia remained chiefly under Roman and then Byzantine influence. The two great empires, Rome and Persia, vied for centuries to establish dominance over Armenia, making Armenia the scene of almost constant warfare.</p><p> </p><p>This struggle was carried on in ernest when the founder of the Persian Sassanid dynasty, Ardashir I, overthrew the Parthian kingdom in Iran (AD 226), invaded Armenia, overwhelmed the Armenian Arsacids, and attacked the Roman Empire. After over a century of warfare, peace was signed between the Eastern Roman Empire and Iran in AD 387, dividing Armenia into two vassal states--one controlled by Byzantium and the other by Iran. In Persian (eastern) Armenia, the Armenian Arsacids retained nominal supremacy until AD 428; but, after the natural extinction of the Armenian dynasty, the Iranians appointed a marzpan (margrave) to rule as governor. </p><p>  <a href="http://www.15levels.com/armenia/armenia-pre-christian.html" rel="external nofollow">http://www.15levels.com/armenia/armenia-pr...-christian.html</a></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">3246</guid><pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2001 01:40:00 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>A "hell" of Biblical Foods</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/58015-a-hell-of-biblical-foods/</link><description><![CDATA[<p><em>Do "food" and the Bible mix? Apparently yes...read on:</em></p><p> </p><p>January 18, 2014<br />8 Ways to Live Well from Biblical Times<br /><a href="http://refreshingnews99.blogspot.in/2014/01/8-ways-to-live-well-from-biblical-times.html" rel="external nofollow">http://refreshingnews99.blogspot.in/2014/01/8-ways-to-live-well-from-biblical-times.html</a><br /><br /> Apples, grapes, olive oil, honey, onions, pomegranates, fish, and spices like ginger are considered super-foods and found throughout the Bible. Gain understanding and live well, according to God’s Word!<br /><br /><strong>The Olive Leaf</strong><br />The olive leaf oil was used in Biblical times to promote healing for cuts and used as an antiseptic.<br /><br /><strong>Nuts</strong><br />Walnuts, pistachios, and almonds can lower bad cholesterol, are full of protein, fiber, and can also maintain weight.<br /><br />“Then their father Israel said to them, “If it must be, then do this: Put some of the best products of the land in your bags and take them down to the man as a gift—a little balm and a little honey, some spices and myrrh, some pistachio nuts and almonds.” Genesis: 43:11<br /><br /><strong>Spelt</strong><br />Spelt has more protein than conventional wheat, B2, copper, fiber, and is digested easier. Spelt can help prevent diabetes with its low glycemic index. “Take wheat and barley, beans and lentils, millet and spelt; put them in a storage jar and use them to make bread for yourself.” Ezekiel 4:9<br /><br /><strong> Onions</strong><br />Onions improve vitamin C production, reduce inflammation, regulate blood sugar, and can prevent certain cancers. “We remember the fish we ate in Egypt at no cost—also the cucumbers, melons, leeks, onions and garlic.” Numbers 11:5<br /><br /><strong> Vinegar</strong><br />Vinegar works well as an antiseptic, body cleanser, and has vitamins A, B1, B2, and B6. It could also boost cognitive function, and suppress the appetite. Look up vinegar in the Book of Ruth.<br /><br /><strong> Pomegranates</strong><br />Pomegranates can lower blood pressure, lower cholesterol, ward off cancer, and help people suffering from depression.<br /><br /><strong> Beans</strong><br />Beans lower cholesterol, reduce the risk of heart disease, and osteoporosis. The variety of beans seems endless such as lima, navy, pinto, white beans and kidney beans.<br /><br /><strong>Psalms 90</strong><br />"Oh! Teach us to live well! Teach us to live wisely and well! Come back, GOD—how long do we have to wait?— and treat your servants with kindness for a change. Surprise us with love at daybreak; then we’ll skip and dance all the day long. Make up for the bad times with some good times;<u> we’ve seen enough evil to last a lifetime</u>. Let your servants see what you’re best at— the ways you rule and bless your children. And let the loveliness of our Lord, our God, rest on us, confirming the work that we do. Oh, yes. Affirm the work that we do!"</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">58015</guid><pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:07:23 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Is This The Last Leader in Vatican?</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/53970-is-this-the-last-leader-in-vatican/</link><description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jlhnLjHIqI&amp;feature=youtu.be" rel="external nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jlhnLjHIqI&amp;feature=youtu.be</a></p><p><a href="http://youtu.be/6jlhnLjHIqI" rel="external nofollow">http://youtu.be/6jlhnLjHIqI</a></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">53970</guid><pubDate>Sat, 31 Aug 2013 17:47:09 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Jesus' Christmas Message</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/57382-jesus-christmas-message/</link><description><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size:18px;"><span style="font-family:'courier new', courier, monospace;">Jesus had a ministry activity for 3 years, He was aware of His death only during the last months (that is why He is saying in this message "[at first]I did not know I will be killed", or the last year of His ministry as mentioned in the gospels, where He says they will kill Him in various verses, but even then He did not know that He was going to be mocked, beaten, lashed, tortured, spitted upon and a crown of thorns pushed on His head <span style="font-size:18px;"><span style="font-family:'courier new', courier, monospace;">before His Crucifixion</span></span> --all that was made clearly depicted in the film The Passion of the Christ (2004) of Mel Gibson</span></span></p><p> </p>	<a href="http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com/all-during-my-childhood-i-knew-who-i-was/" title="Permanent Link to All during My childhood I knew Who I was" rel="external nofollow">All during My childhood I knew Who I was</a><div>December 12th, 2013</div><div><div><p> </p><p><span style="font-size:18px;">My dearly beloved daughter, <strong>as the time for My Birthday draws near, I desire that all Christians everywhere contemplate on the reason for My Birth.</strong></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size:18px;"><strong>My Birth was planned by My Father out of His Great Mercy and His extraordinary Love for His children. </strong>His greatest sacrifice was to send His only Son, begotten of Him, into an ungrateful world, full of sinners, who did not want to know Him on His Terms. Every Intervention, through the prophets, was made to try to turn their hardened hearts to seek out His Glory. But they turned against Him and killed the prophets, who fed them with the Food for their souls.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size:18px;">By sending an innocent child, His only Son, into the world, He placed Himself as a lowly servant of human flesh, before those who were meant to serve their Master. <strong>The Master, therefore, became the Servant in what was the greatest form of Humility.</strong> Yet, He so loved His children, He was prepared to do anything to win them back from the deceit and temptation of Satan.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size:18px;">All during My childhood I knew Who I was and what was expected of Me. I was also very frightened and overwhelmed by the knowledge of Who I was and what was expected of Me. Because I was human, I suffered from fear. I was easily hurt. I loved all who came into contact with Me and I trusted all because I loved them. I did not know they would kill Me, for I thought that My Kingdom had come. There were certain things kept from Me by My Father, Who did not communicate with Me as you would believe. Instead, I received an infused knowledge, when desired by My Father, in the task assigned to Me, in order to bring salvation to all.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size:18px;">Every kind of Divine Intervention was made to win over the souls of those who thought they knew the Laws of My Father, but who twisted them to suit their own desires and egos.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size:18px;"><strong>I spent many years living with My beloved Mother and father, St. Joseph, just as any family. I loved them so much and I was happy. We were very close and My Mother was gifted with special Graces given to her by the Power of the Holy Spirit.</strong> This meant that she knew exactly what My Mission entailed. She knew the difficulties I would have to face. The rejection. The ridicule. But neither did she know that I would be murdered.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size:18px;">It was after the first two years in My Mission, having spent twenty hours a day preaching the Truth, that I realized that the opposition had mounted. All those who heard My Word were alert to it, even when they could not understand exactly what I was trying to tell them. Many, who did accept that what I told them was the Truth, found it difficult to follow Me because of the ridicule that they faced. Either way, <strong>My enemies could not ignore Me. I was the subject of much debate, much argument and much friction.</strong></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size:18px;"><strong>They spread terrible lies about Me, including My Morality, My Sanity and My Intentions – and yet, they could not ignore what I did, what I said and what I told them about My Father’s Kingdom.</strong></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size:18px;"><strong>I was betrayed by those who loved Me, but who lacked the courage to follow Me.</strong></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size:18px;">By the Grace of My Father, I endured all this Pain, until the final realization became clear to Me. I knew, then, that they would not accept Me. I knew the Truth, towards the end, but I also knew that I could not give up. And so, through the greatest act of Humility, God, through His Only Son, became a Victim and so allowed man to inflict upon Him a terrible suffering, scourging and violent death. This, seemingly cowardly act by Me, as seen through the eyes of Satan, meant that he doubted that I was, in fact, the Son of man. And so he was deceived. <strong>Satan, therefore, could not counteract this Great Act of Humility, for there was no one left to tempt.</strong> When I went to My death, a willing and silent victim, full of love for humanity, he, Satan, could not compete with this deed, for he does not possess any form of humility. So, I went willingly and with a burning desire to save souls and leave the world the legacy of Eternal Life. My Kingdom remained however, for the most part, under the domain of Satan. Souls, however, knew the Truth.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size:18px;">Now to ensure that humanity understands the Truth, <strong>I come now to reclaim My Kingdom.</strong> By doing so, I have incurred the wrath of Satan. His plans to hide the Truth are elaborate and sophisticated. Cunningly, he has infiltrated My Church in this his last attempt to deny Me the souls I have come for. The souls who have a natural right to the Glorious Kingdom I promised them. This time he won’t win. But <strong>many souls will be deceived and as such, will be cheated out of the Greatest Gift given to humanity by My beloved Father.</strong> To live a life in the Glory of God with a perfect body and soul for eternity is yours. All of you. Do not squander this by allowing yourselves to be blinded to the True Word of God.</span></p><p><span style="font-size:18px;">Your Jesus</span></p></div></div><p> </p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">57382</guid><pubDate>Wed, 25 Dec 2013 09:48:00 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Paganism Will Be Marching On!</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/54930-paganism-will-be-marching-on/</link><description><![CDATA[	<a href="http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com/no-man-no-priest-no-bishop-no-cardinal-no-pope-has-the-authority-to-re-write-the-word-of-god/" title="Permanent Link to No man, no priest, no bishop, no cardinal, no pope, has the authority to re-write the Word of God" rel="external nofollow">No man, no priest, no bishop, no cardinal, no pope, has the authority to re-write the Word of God</a><div>Thursday, September 19th, 2013</div><div> </div><p>My dearly beloved daughter,</p><p>My poor sacred servants will, after the Liturgy has been tampered with and desecrated before Me, come running to Me in great sorrow. Only when that happens, will they realise that the Word of God is being made known through God’s prophet, and that it is the Truth. The Word of God is the Truth. It can only be the full Truth or not at all, if the prophecies given to God’s children are from Him.</p><p> </p><p>Many will gather and unite to prepare to pay homage to Me, in the way which honours Me, for nothing will stand in their way to uphold My Holy Word; My Holy Sacraments; My Holy Mass and the Most Holy Eucharist. But even then, many will not see the errors, which are going to be presented to unsuspecting souls.</p><p> </p><p><b>Only when the Church of God is declared to be in union with pagans, and their ludicrous practices, will more of My sacred servants truly understand what is happening</b>. Only when the pagan symbols and satanic signs begin to be shown inside of, upon and at the exterior entrances to Christian Churches, will they run for their lives. There will be great fear in their hearts, because many of them, at that stage, will have nowhere to go, as they failed to prepare for this day. These will be the ones who will be hunted down because they did not respond to My Call. Their pride and their egos prevented them from recognizing My Voice. So many of My sacred servants will be caught unawares, and many will be powerless against the reign of the false prophet and his cohort, the antichrist. These two will be ruthless in their quest to control all nations and anyone who dares to stand in their way will be destroyed.</p><p> </p><p>While those sacred servants within My Church on Earth will be trapped, unless they are prepared, it is the souls of the faithful, the loyal followers of Me, Jesus Christ, who will be misled into grave error, which causes Me such bitter sorrow. Many will be afraid to show disloyalty to the Church, even when My Teachings, My Holy Doctrine, and all the Sacraments have been altered. Let them know now that no man, no priest, no bishop, no cardinal, no pope, has the authority to re-write the Word of God. When they do this, they have broken God’s Law. Only the Church of God, which remains faithful to My Teachings, is infallible. Once that bond – the bond where only the Truth is declared in My Name – is broken, they become separated from Me. I Am the Church. You, My followers, My sacred servants, are part of Me when you adhere to My Holy Doctrine.</p><p> </p><p><b>The Church – My Church – will remain intact, for the Truth can never change. Those who separate from Me can not be part of My Church on Earth.</b></p><p>Your Jesus</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">54930</guid><pubDate>Fri, 04 Oct 2013 12:27:41 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>The dispute with Simon Magus</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/56275-the-dispute-with-simon-magus/</link><description><![CDATA[<p><span>http://www.duomomonreale.it/images/stories/III-PERCORSO/CICLO-I-Pietro/big/simon-mago.jpg</span></p><p>Following the detailed texts of his apocryphal Acts [of Peter], Peter [the Apostle] had a strong disagreement with an illustrious Palestinian, Simon Magus. Two moments of this dispute are illustrated at Monreale: the dispute that occurred before the emperor Nero and the failure by Simon Magus to show spiritual power.</p><p> </p><p>The two inscriptions say: <em><span>Here in Rome, before Nero, Peter and Paul disputed with Simon Magus. Here, under the command of Peter, as Paul was praying, Simon Magus fell to the ground</span></em>.</p><p> </p><p>In the second scene, as Peter is speaking out against Simon Magus, with the usual Byzantine gesture of speaking [and not “blessing” as is often generally said by many nowadays], Paul is depicted as praying, on his knees with the palms of his hands facing upwards.</p><p><a href="http://www.duomomonreale.it/index0933.html?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=201&amp;Itemid=268&amp;lang=en" rel="external nofollow">http://www.duomomonreale.it/index0933.html?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=201&amp;Itemid=268&amp;lang=en</a></p><p> </p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">56275</guid><pubDate>Sun, 17 Nov 2013 20:17:58 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Karekin II elected for 8 years Prez of WCC</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/55944-karekin-ii-elected-for-8-years-prez-of-wcc/</link><description><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size:18px;"><strong>Elected as one of 8 members presidency not the only president</strong></span></p><p><a href="http://www.armradio.am/en/2013/11/05/catholicos-of-all-armenians-elected-president-of-the-world-council-of-churches/" rel="external nofollow">Catholicos of All Armenians elected President of the World Council of Churches</a></p><p>November 5, 20133</p><p>His Holiness Karekin II, Supreme Patriarch and Catholicos of All Armenians, has been unanimously elected President of the World Council of Churches (WCC) <strong>for the term of eight years</strong>. The voting took place during the November 4th sitting of the 10th Assembly of the World Council of Churches in Busan, South Korea.<br /><br />The presidency of the Council consists of eight members. The mission of WCC Presidents is to encourage the inter-church and ecumenical relations, ensure the protection of human rights in the world, establishment of justice and peace.</p><p><span>http://www.armradio.am/en/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Garegin-B-1-620x300.jpg</span></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">55944</guid><pubDate>Wed, 06 Nov 2013 16:17:01 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Evangelical AMAA opening office in Little Armenia</title><link>https://hyeforum.com/topic/55945-evangelical-amaa-opening-office-in-little-armenia/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>The Armenian Missionary Association of America (AMAA) was founded in 1918 and today has grown substantially, it has 3 headquarters or Centers of operations; in Eastern USA at Paramus, New Jersey; in Western USA at Glendale, California (this one opening in November 2013), and the third in Yerevan, Armenia and is located where the old Embassy of USA used to be, at small center of Yerevan. In Armenia "The AMAA started its operations with the distribution of relief supplies and medical programs. This was essential in those 'dark years' of the early 1990's when Armenia was experiencing severe economic conditions, and shortages of basic life necessities. In recent years, through various educational and development programs, the AMAA has been focusing on helping people earn their own living, be self-sufficient and thus preserve their dignity"<br /><br />"AMAA is a non-profit charitable organization whose purpose is to serve the physical and spiritual needs of people everywhere, both at home and overseas. The AMAA is a nonsectarian Christian organization that renders its services to those in need without discrimination. To fulfill this worldwide mission, the AMAA maintains a range of educational, evangelistic, relief, social service, church, and child care ministries in twenty-four countries around the world and often partners with other relief agencies to aid disaster stricken areas throughout the world. For additional information, visit   <a href="http://www.amaa.org" rel="external nofollow">http://www.amaa.org</a>.</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">55945</guid><pubDate>Wed, 06 Nov 2013 16:43:24 +0000</pubDate></item></channel></rss>
