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#1 Arpa

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Posted 14 September 2009 - 10:24 AM

BORDERS .
Please, not BoArders.
First a small correction.
Day in and day out, we see ArmGlish sites spell the word as “boArder” when obviously, they mean “border”. I will remand the rest to the Category of language.
Let us get back to the matter of borders.
Where is that "manyouk" clown jester.gif Abeghtsbeghyan to correct the English language, to show us if it is "border"or "boarder"?
You will notice that in that so called “protocols” the B word “borders” and the G word “genocide” are “artfully dodged” and replaced with the W (war) word, be it “civil”or “savage”.
Anyone know Charles Dickens’ “Artful Dodger“?
http://en.wikipedia....i/Artful_Dodger
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QUOTE
Dodger”? Main Entry: dodg·er
Pronunciation: \ˈdä-jər\
Function: noun
Date: 1568
1 : one that dodges; especially : one who uses tricky devices

Like those who “artfully dodge” the use of the G word, who would rather use the W word.( as in “war“, “civil“ or “savage“)
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To get back to the main topic of “borders”.
http://www.wilsonforarmenia.org/
QUOTE
- The present Republic of Armenia (since 1991) is the legal successor of the first Republic of Armenia (1918-1920);
- The Armenian Soviet Socialistic Republic (1920-1991) was only a part of the USSR and was not recognized by any State in the world;
- The present de facto boundary between the Republic of Armenia and Turkey is just a border between former USSR and Turkey, which cannot be valid;

- The legal de jure boundary between the present Republic of Armenia and Turkey should be the boundary of the first Republic of Armenia, which was proposed by US President Woodrow Wilson (1913-1921) and was recognized by many States (France, England, Italy, Japan, etc.), including Turkey (Treaty of Sevres, 10 August 1920);
- The insurgent Turkish and Bolshevik invasion in November 1920 interrupted the life of the first Republic of Armenia and the normal process of bound lining.
Task
The abovementioned States should make Turkey recognize the real approved boundary and firstly demiitarize the occupied Western Armenian Lands (so-called "Eastern Anatolia"), which belong to the Republic of Armenia according to the Arbitral Award of US President Woodrow Wilson.

Sevre;
http://www.hri.org/d...vres/part3.html
QUOTE
SECTION VI.

ARMENIA.
ARTICLE 88.
Turkey, in accordance with the action already taken by the Allied Powers, hereby recognises Armenia as a free and independent State.
ARTICLE 89.
Turkey and Armenia as well as the other High Contracting Parties agree to submit to the arbitration of the President of the United States of America the question of the frontier to be fixed between Turkey and Armenia in the vilayets of Erzerum, Trebizond, Van and Bitlis, and to accept his decision thereupon, as well as any stipulations he may prescribe as to access for Armenia to the sea, and as to the demilitarisation of any portion of Turkish territory adjacent to the said frontier.
ARTICLE 90.
In the event of the determination of the frontier under Article 89 involving the transfer of the whole or any part of the territory of the said Vilayets to Armenia, Turkey hereby renounces as from the date of such decision all rights and title over the territory so transferred. The provisions of the present Treaty applicable to territory detached from Turkey shall thereupon become applicable to the said territory.
The proportion and nature of the financial obligations of Turkey which Armenia will have to assume, or of the rights which will pass to her, on account of the transfer of the said territory will be determined in accordance with Articles 241 to 244, Part VIII (Financial Clauses) of the present Treaty.
Subsequent agreements will, if necessary, decide all questions which are not decided by the present Treaty and which may arise in consequence of the transfer of the said territory.
ARTICLE 91.
In the event of any portion of the territory referred to in Article 89 being transferred to Armenia, a Boundary Commission, whose composition will be determined subsequently, will be constituted within three months from the delivery of the decision referred to in the said Article to trace on the spot the frontier between Armenia and Turkey as established by such decision.
ARTICLE 92.
The frontiers between Armenia and Azerbaijan and Georgia respectively will be determined by direct agreement between the States concerned.
If in either case the States concerned have failed to determine the frontier by agreement at the date of the decision referred to in Article 89, the frontier line in question will be determined by the Pricipal Allied Powers, who will also provide for its being traced on the spot.
ARTICLE 93.
Armenia accepts and agrees to embody in a Treaty with the Principal Allied Powers such provisions as may be deemed necessary by these Powers to protect the interests of inhabitants of that State who differ from the majority of the population in race, language, or religion.
Armenia further accepts and agrees to embody in a Treaty with the Principal Allied Powers such provisions as these Powers may deem necessary to protect freedom of transit and equitable treatment for the commerce of other nations.

Edited by Arpa, 14 September 2009 - 10:51 AM.


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Posted 25 November 2009 - 08:48 AM

WHAT DO YOU THINK?
Are we ready, or once again we will be caught with our “guards“ down?
How much thought has been given to the prospect of open borders?
Opening the “floodgates”. Do we have “flood controls” in place?
We have spoken about industry, economics, tourism etc.
Here is another of those dreamful fables where it says that Armenian agriculture will not be negatively affected as the prices are higher across the border.
You mean furkish “shish kebab“ (khorvats), bamia and Tsiran :ap: are more expensive than the Armenian ones?
What do you think?
Anyone know the meaning of "osmosis"** where the less concentrated liquied permeates into the more conncentrated and dilutes it?
**
I can’t find the Armenian word for “osmosis” except somewhere it says that it is from Greek “osmos”/ pressure/հրում/ՃՆՇՈՒՄ
Btw. The Armenian word for “border” is “sahman/սահման” :
Ամէն ինչ սահման ունի/everything has a limit.
You hit/fool me ONCE, SHAME on you! You hit me TWICE, three times, four and five times? Shame on me!!!
We will see what “sahman/սահման” really means.

Main Entry: os·mo·sis
Pronunciation: \äz-ˈmō-səs, äs-\
Function: noun
Etymology: New Latin, short for endosmosis
Date: 1867
1 : movement of a solvent (as water) through a semipermeable membrane (as of a living cell) into a solution of higher solute concentration that tends to equalize the concentrations of solute on the two sides of the membrane
2 : a process of absorption or diffusion suggestive of the flow of osmotic action; especially : a usually effortless often unconscious assimilation


Any one knows where LA LA LAND is?
There was a time when people like these were called "spin doctors"
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MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE INVESTIGATES WHETHER BORDER OPENING CARRIES ANY RISKS

Aysor
Nov 23 2009
Armenia

As part of investigations in agricultural sector before opening the
Armenian-Turkish border, Armenia's Ministry of Agriculture studied
whether there is a risk or which of them will appear if the border
opens.

"We've studied 46 major food goods in Turkey, and compared the
process. There is nothing to be afraid of as prices in Turkey are
higher than in Armenia. Just 6 or 7 pieces have lower prices in
Turkey than in Armenia," told journalists Deputy Minister of Armenia's
Minister of Agriculture, Samvel Avetisyan.


Turkish government greatly supports local farmers and besides does
not comply with the rules of the World Trade Organization, according
to Samvel Avetisyan.

"Turkey government approved entering into WTO only if Turkey will
comply beyond the organisation's rules. Turkey may implement
a discriminatory policy, if we don't demand on banning of this
condition," he added.

"If we don't implement a certain policy and programs of support
of farmers, customs and not only customs tools, then our farmers
may really face treats and danger when the border opens. It is very
important to adjust this sector, and carry out the get-touch policy
at the border. If Turkey says will not reduce taxes, then we'll do
the same," said Samvel Avetisyan.

Edited by Arpa, 25 November 2009 - 06:33 PM.


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Posted 25 November 2009 - 06:27 PM

I can’t find the Armenian word for “osmosis” except somewhere it says that it is from Greek “osmos”/ pressure/հրում/ՃՆՇՈՒՄ


:offtopic: osmosis:Ճնշունք? (Does Ք correspond to -is? Let's not incorrectly coin phrases or anything ;) ) :offtopic:

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Posted 25 November 2009 - 06:53 PM

:offtopic: osmosis:Ճնշունք? (Does Ք correspond to -is? Let's not incorrectly coin phrases or anything ;) ) :offtopic:

:goof: No Zartonk. ՈՒՄ=is :jester:

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 01:30 PM

Next APRL ?
HUH!!!
What is so magical about April?
Note that in the Armenian language “ԱՊՐԻԼ/Live ” is the antonym of. “ՄԵՌՆԻԼ/Die”.
Do they mean until we “die/Մեռնիլ” roll over and pretend dead, http://community.web...046100103RHSHhD
instead of “April/ Ապրիլ/Live”, they will not open the border?
How many ways are there to “open a border”?
http://analogmoon.fi...room-cloud2.jpg
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Take a look at this piece of dog-doo by someone named (dog) papic-poopic.. Obviously he is a Bosnian recto-turk “papaz”.
Not to forget that our own leaders speak from both ends of their digestive system as well.
http://news.am/en/news/11465.html

Armenian-Turkish border not to be opened before next April, Stratfor analyst says
14:15 / 12/28/2009

The Armenian-Trkish border will not be reopened before next April, the STRATFOR analyst Marko Papic said in his interview with 1news.az. Turkey is a key player in the region, and much depends on what it is doing. If Turkey goes on normalizing its relations with Armenia without prior consultations with Azerbaijan, it may cause a serious crisis next year, Papic said…..



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Posted 30 December 2009 - 01:46 PM

"When in Rome do as the Romans do" has the exact meaning when you are in Azeristan, in order to get some of those petro dollars.

Keep in mind that it's an Azeri site doing the interview.

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Posted 12 February 2010 - 10:07 AM

So!! You want the borders to open?
See what is happening even closed. You think they will send “milk and honey”? gogma gagma and gagsturma? They are sending “milky powder” and “honey” with a (bee) “sting”. :taz: :hammer:
Asbarez-RFE;
http://www.asbarez.c...-turkey-border/

Police Seize $2 Million Heroin Cache on Armenia-Turkey Border
Posted By Asbarez Staff On February 11, 2010 @ 1:08 pm In Armenia, Featured Story, International, News, Top Stories, Turkey | 2 Comments

A border post along the Armenia-Turkey border
YEREVAN (RFE/RL)–Armenian law-enforcement authorities reported on Thursday their biggest-ever seizure of heroin which they said was smuggled to Armenia by Iranian drug dealers through neighboring Turkey.
The Armenian police and the Office of the Prosecutor-General said about 7 kilograms of the Class A drug were discovered late on Monday in a car that was driven by a Russian citizen of Armenian descent and carried an Iranian national identified as Mostafa Advai.
A police statement said the heroin consignment was thrown by an unknown drug trafficker in Turkey over barbed wire stretching along the Turkish-Armenian border and picked up by Advai moments later. It said both Advai and the Russian-Armenian, identified as Hovannes Davtian, were arrested on the spot, near an undisclosed section of the closed frontier guarded by Russian troops.
Another Iranian citizen, identified as Hosein Tazeh Kand, was arrested in the same area earlier on Monday. The police and the prosecutors said law-enforcement authorities found about 5 kilograms of opium in his car. According to the police statement, the drug load was likewise tossed from the Turkish side of the border.
The prosecutors estimated the total black-market value of the confiscated drugs at around $2 million. “The investigation is continuing, and we will additionally report on its results,” read their statement.
The statement said a total of “about a dozen persons,” among them suspected drug dealers and users, have been arrested in an investigation jointly conducted by anti-narcotics units of the Office of the Prosecutor-General and the police. The latter reported only four arrests. Three of the detainees identified by the police are Iranians.
A number of Iranian nationals are already serving prison sentences in Armenia handed down on drug-related charges. Iran is believed to be the main source of drugs smuggled into the country from abroad.
Drug trafficking and addiction in Armenia, although still low by international standards, has increased since independence. According to the Armenian police, the number of officially registered drug-related crimes committed in the country nearly doubled to 539 last year. The police also recorded 690 instances of illegal drug possession, compared with 372 such cases registered in 2008.


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Posted 21 May 2010 - 08:38 AM

WIL(sic) that SON of dog please stop barking?
(You may have noticed that I have ben spelling his name as “dav-IT-oghlu” and the name of that other dog as “er-DOG-an”. In their language “it” means dog in an insulting way.)
How does that dog deserve a “Wilsonian award“?
Speaking of dogs. When will the world in general and the US in particular, that adage of the "tail wagging the dog"? “big bad junkyard dog “. Is this song about "Leroy Obama Brown"? :D ;

http://www.animation....com/donna3.gif
Those dogs have been barking all this time, it is time to see their fangs, it is time to see what will happen when they dare to once again try to expand their borders towards boku, and what will Ivan(the terrible) will say.
We have been noticing that Nakhjavan is fast becoming a suburb of ankakara, the latest being that regular flights will start soon. At that time it will be renamed “aghrijavan” , much like Ararat/Aghori to “aghri”.
Let’s revisit this site;
http://www.wilsonforarmenia.org/
Speaking of doggy bones, here is one.
David B, our fearless warrior is fast becoming a voice to reckon with
See here and else;
http://hyeforum.com/...=1
My Only wish is that he amend his furkish sounding surname. Should he insist that his ancestors were “dyers/nerkarar”, and we are preserving our ancestral culture, then how about he adopt a surname like “Nerkararian/Ներկարարեան/Yerangian/Երանգեան”?? I will not suggest :oops: “kounavoroghian\Գունաւորողեան( գոյն- գուն)”

WOODROW WILSON, THE 28TH AMERICAN PRESIDENT, IS LOOKING DOWN IN HORROR AT WHAT THE WOODROW WILSON INTERNATIONAL CENTER FOR SCHOLARS (WWC) IS DOING IN HIS NAME.
David Boyajian

http://www.unlikelys...ajian0510.shtml

Most Americans are not aware of the DC-based organization, or that
their taxes comprise one-third of its multi-million dollar annual
budget.

The WWC was created by Congress in 1968 through the Woodrow Wilson
Memorial Act to commemorate the late president's "ideals and concerns"
and memorialize "his accomplishments."

The WWC has in several ways, however, violated its Congressional
mandate.

The WWC itself claims that it "takes seriously his [Wilson's] views."

In fact, it has knowingly disregarded many of his views.

And while it professes "to take a historical perspective," the WWC
often closes its eyes to history.

Case in point: In mid-June of this year, the WWC plans to travel to
Turkey to bestow its coveted Woodrow Wilson Award for Public Service
on Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu.


Curiously, the WWC won't provide this writer with a press release
about it. We know about the award only from the Turkish media and a
call to the WWC's communications chief.

AN UNDESERVED AWARD

The WWC's director, former Congressman Lee Hamilton, says that
Davutoglu "personifies the attributes we seek to honor at the Woodrow
Wilson Center" and has "catalyzed" Turkish policy.

It is appalling that the WWC would honor a top official of a country
that in so many ways is a major human rights violator. Moreover,
Davutoglu's own record - including his much- ballyhooed "zero problems
with neighbors" policy - is undistinguished.

But even more to the point, Davutoglu's policies are the very
antithesis of Woodrow Wilson's "ideals and concerns."

TURKISH TEMPER TANTRUMS

Let us start with Davutoglu's eruption against America due to a
US House committee's approval in March of a resolution (Res. 252)
that reaffirmed the factuality of, and historic US interest in,
the Armenian genocide of 1915-23 committed by Turkey.

Turkey immediately recalled its ambassador. Davutoglu then announced
that the House committee vote was an insult to his country's "honour,"
as if Turkey's continuing cover-up of genocide is somehow honorable. A
top official of Turkey's ruling AK Party threatened the US with
"consequences." Turkey's relationship with America, he warned, "would
be downgraded at every level ... from Afghanistan to Pakistan to Iraq
to the Middle East process ... there would be a major disruption."

These were not just nasty overreactions by Turkey. They were also
nonsensical. The US has, after all, reaffirmed the Armenian genocide as
"genocide" at least five times: three resolutions passed by the full
House (1975, 1984, and 1996); an official proclamation (No. 4838) by
President Reagan (1981); and a US legal filing with the International
Court of Justice (1951).

MORE TANTRUMS

Davutoglu threw the same sort of tantrum a week later - withdrawing
his ambassador and making threats - when the Swedish Parliament
recognized the Armenian genocide.

Turkey has thrown similar fits when some 20 other countries, the
European Parliament, a UN sub-commission, the Vatican, and others
recognized the Armenian genocide.

No other alleged "ally" threatens the US as frequently and consistently
as does Turkey.

Thus, far from "catalyzing" Turkey's policies, the foreign minister is
carrying on his government's tradition of threats and genocide denial.

If such behavior "personifies the attributes" that the WWC "seeks to
honor," the Center's standards must be low indeed.

DAVUTOGLU'S DOUBLE STANDARDS

"Turkey will not allow anyone else to evaluate its history," Davutoglu
blustered after the House committee and Swedish Parliament votes.

He seems unaware that countries constantly evaluate other countries'
histories. Davutoglu evidently thinks that Turkey should be uniquely
exempt from the judgments of others.

Davutoglu also seems blissfully unaware that the United Nations,
the US, and many other nations and international organizations have
condemned and continue to condemn various countries' past (and present)
crimes such as the Holocaust, genocides, bloody revolutions, and crimes
against humanity. These include the genocide now taking place in Sudan.

Not surprisingly, Turkey and Davutoglu have a horrendous record
regarding Sudan.

THE TURKEY-SUDAN GENOCIDE AXIS

Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir was invited to visit Turkey two years
ago while he was under indictment by the International Criminal Court
(ICC) for "war crimes and crimes against humanity."

Human rights groups, such as Human Rights Watch, blasted Turkey for
inviting the Sudanese dictator. Turkey defiantly proceeded to welcome
al-Bashir with a red carpet, an honor guard, and a 21-gun salute.

True to Turkey's tradition of genocide denial, President Abdullah
Gul downplayed the Sudanese mass killings, attributing them solely to
"politics ... poverty and environmental conditions."

Then last year, after Davutoglu's appointment, the Turkish government
once again invited al-Bashir, the target of an ICC international
arrest warrant. Only after a huge international outcry was the visit
eventually canceled. Davutoglu, like his country, has a blind spot
when it comes to genocides.

In the meantime, of course, Davutoglu's Turkey has been busy accusing
other countries - notably China and Israel - of genocide. The hypocrisy
is incredible. Should not Turkey first acknowledge its own genocides
against not only Armenians but also Assyrians, Greeks, and Kurds?

Now we know why some have dubbed Turkey and Sudan the "axis of
genocide."

But Davutoglu and Turkey's failures involve much more than tantrums,
threats, genocide, and hypocrisy.

DAVUTOGLU'S OTHER FAILURES

Despite Turkey's so-called "zero problems with neighbors" policy,
Davutoglu has largely continued, not "catalyzed," his country's
failed policies.

For example, there is no end in sight to Turkey's 36-year long military
occupation of northern Cyprus. "Zero problems with neighbors"?

Turkey's alleged rapprochement last year with Armenia, which Turkey
has blockaded since 1993, also disproves the WWC's assertions about
Davutoglu. When he negotiated and signed a set of controversial
protocols with Armenia last year, Turkey said that these would open
a new chapter with its eastern neighbor.

Both countries' parliaments were then supposed to quickly ratify
the protocols.

Though many Armenians believe that parts of the protocols are contrary
to Armenia's interests, the Armenian Parliament has been ready to
ratify them.

Davutoglu, however, quickly reverted to his government's old
precondition: Turkey would neither ratify the protocols nor open
its border with Armenia unless Armenians concluded an agreement with
Azerbaijan regarding Karabagh, the Armenian region that Stalin handed
to Soviet Azerbaijan and which declared independence from Azerbaijan
in 1991.

Turkey's backpedaling was condemned by the parties that mediated the
protocols - the US, Russia, and Switzerland - as well as the European
Union. Due to Davutoglu's duplicity, the protocols have stalled and
may die. "Zero problems with neighbors"?

And regardless of one's views on American policy towards Iran and
Israel, it is known that Turkey's overheated, undiplomatic rhetoric
is designed primarily to please a Muslim audience at home and in the
Middle East. Turkey's intemperate language has simply poured oil on
fires and complicated American efforts in the region.

Turkey's Kurdish problems, both within the country and across the
border in Iraq, remain unsolved. Raids into northern Iraq by Turkish
troops are not a solution.

Even Turkey's offers to "mediate" regional disputes look rather
contrived given that Turkey has not faced many of its own problems
with neighbors.

"Zero problems with neighbors" is a hollow catchphrase. A more
accurate name would be Turkey's longstanding "zero Armenians as
neighbors" policy.

Aside, perhaps, from improved Turkish relations with Syria, and a
lot of braggadocio and spin, Davutoglu has "catalyzed" essentially
nothing for the better. He is surely grateful, though, to Lee Hamilton
and the WWC for implying otherwise.

Let us now examine President Woodrow Wilson's record to see how the
WWC has besmirched his name and violated its Congressional mandate.

DESECRATING WILSON'S IDEALS AND CONCERNS

President Wilson advocated the right to self-determination of all the
nations, particularlyArmenia, that suffered under Turkey's corrupt,
violent yoke.

His and America's support for Armenians - politically, financially,
and verbally - was immense and is well-documented. Yet the WWC chooses
to desecrate that record by honoring a Turkish official who denies the
Armenian genocide, threatens the American people, plays games with the
protocols it signed with Armenia, and continues to blockade Armenia.

Wilson enunciated his famous Fourteen Points, based on a just peace,
in 1918, before the end of WW I. Point Twelve left no room for doubt:
The non-Turkish "nationalities which are now under Turkish rule should
be assured an undoubted security of life and an absolutely unmolested
opportunity of autonomous development." He was referring to Armenians,
Arabs, Assyrians, Greeks, Kurds, and others.

Unlike the proposed award to Davutoglu, Wilson's was well-deserved:
He received the Nobel Peace Prize of 1919 because of his Fourteen
Points and his advocacy of the League of Nations.

Reporting to Wilson during the genocide was his good friend and
ambassador to Turkey, Henry Morgenthau, Sr. The ambassador cabled
Washington in 1915 that Turkey was engaged in a "campaign of race
extermination" against Armenians. The American Embassy served as a
channel for Armenian massacre reports arriving from various parts of
the Turkish empire. US Consul Leslie A. Davis, who actually witnessed
the genocide in the interior, wrote, "I do not believe there has ever
been a massacre in the history of the world so general and thorough."

At Wilson's direction, Morgenthau gave to Turkish leaders the
British-French-Russian declaration of 1915 that dealt specifically
with the Armenian mass murders. "All members of the Ottoman Government
and those of its agents who are implicated in such massacres," read
the declaration, will be held "personally responsible" for "the new
crimes of Turkey."

By proposing to honor a genocide denier, the WWC's Lee Hamilton is
implying that Ambassador Morgenthau and American consuls were liars.

Referring to Turkey's crimes against humanity, Wilson spoke these
words in Salt Lake City a year after WW I: "Armenia is to be redeemed
so that at last this great people, struggling through this night of
terror ... are now given a promise of safety, a promise of justice."

AMERICA AND ARMENIA

In the spring of 1920, under the terms of the Treaty of Sèvres,
the European Allies asked Wilson to arbitrate the boundary between
Turkey and Armenia within the four Armenian provinces of "Erzerum,
Trebizond, Van, and Bitlis." Wilson agreed. He had already sent 50
American researchers to survey the people and land.

In November, the president delivered the US decision: Armenia would
include more than 40,000 square miles within those four provinces and
a Black Sea coastline. Europe also asked America to accept a mandate
over Armenia - that is, physical protection from Turkey while Armenians
got back on their feet.

Though Congress, in a post-war isolationist mood, eventually declined
his appeal for the Armenian mandate, Wilson's written request noted
that "the hearings conducted by the subcommittee of the Senate
Committee on Foreign Relations have clearly established the truth of
the reported massacres and other atrocities from which the Armenian
people have suffered."

The Senate report, Wilson went on, embodied his "own convictions and
feelings with regard to Armenia and its people." Americans, he said,
"have made the cause of Armenia their own" and had responded with
"extraordinary spontaneity and sincerity." These were understatements.

Turkey signed the Treaty of Sèvres but later repudiated it.

Incidentally, had Turkey fulfilled its obligations under Sèvres and
Wilson's binding arbitration, much of the Kurdish issue would have
been resolved 90 years ago. The treaty stipulated an autonomous
Kurdish zone - just below the Armenian provinces - in southeastern
Turkey and, conditionally, in northern Iraq that may eventually have
become independent.

Under Turkish and Soviet attack, in December of 1920 independent
Armenia was forcibly Sovietized, cut to a fraction of its size,
and became landlocked. The Armenian provinces remain under Turkish
occupation to this day, while Turkey blockades what remains of Armenia.

THE WWC DEFIES CONGRESS

The Woodrow Wilson Memorial Act of 1968 was unambiguous: The WWC
was meant to express the 28th president's "ideals and concerns"
and memorialize "his accomplishments."

If it proceeds with its award to Davutoglu, the WWC will be reaffirming
its disregard for Wilson's "ideals and concerns" regarding the
genocide, America's support for Armenians, and liberating their land
from Turkish rule. Similarly, Wilson's "accomplishments" - securing aid
for Armenian survivors, US arbitration of Armenia's boundaries under
the Sèvres Treaty, and more - are being ignored and mocked by the WWC.

The WWC is insulting Armenian Americans and all those who survived
the Turkish nightmare.

If Lee Hamilton's own claim that WWC takes "a historical perspective"
were true, it would not honor a man - and by extension the Turkish
government - who unashamedly negate the historical record.

Is the Wilson Center seeking to discredit the Treaty of Sèvres on
its 90th anniversary by honoring Davutoglu?

MASSACRING HISTORY

The WWC may try to claim that it has dealt substantially and fairly
with its namesake's views and accomplishments regarding the Armenian
genocide.

As near as can be determined from a search of the WWC's public records,
however, that claim would be false. This writer has found very little
about the genocide, and most of that is from a Turkish revisionist
perspective.

Two years ago, the WWC's Southeast Europe division did host a scholar
who discussed Turkish policy and the Armenian genocide. And twenty-four
years ago, the WWC's Wilson Quarterly had a one-page piece about an
article published elsewhere that discussed the genocide.

In contrast, four years ago, the Wilson Quarterly published a
sycophantic review praising a widely criticized book by a notorious
genocide denier. And two years back, a former US State Department
official who dealt with Turkey (and is presently an advisor for the
Turkish Policy Quarterly) wrote a mere two sentences about the Sèvres
Treaty - solely from the Turkish perspective - in a WWC-sponsored paper
about Turkey. The Wilson Center's website contains a nine-year old
article written by a former US Army officer who denies the genocide.

This is a disgraceful record.

A year ago, the editors of the journal Genocide Studies and Prevention
initiated a symposium that critiqued the report of the US-sponsored
Genocide Prevention Task Force (GPTF). While the symposium used the
WWC's facilities, the WWC was not a cosponsor, reportedly took little
or no part, and thus cannot claim credit for it.

In any case, nothing can justify the Wilson Center's proposed award
for Davutoglu.

The question begs to be asked: Does the WWC have any questionable
links to Turkey or Armenian genocide deniers?

TURKISH-TAINTED CORPORATE CASH

A look at WWC's funding sources reveals that it is up to its neck in
corporate cash, including Turkish-tainted cash.

One major corporation - Boeing - that is a member of the WWC's
so-called WilsonAlliances wrote a letter to Congress asking it to
defeat the Armenian Genocide Resolution (Res. 252).

Two other WilsonAlliances members - BAE and Chevron - have reportedly
lobbied Congress to defeat the Armenian resolution.

Four WilsonAlliances members - Alcoa, Boeing, Bombardier, and Honeywell
- are dues-paying members of the Aerospace Industries Association
(AIA), which has asked President Obama and Congress to ensure that
Res. 252 "doesn't go to the House floor for a vote." AIA refers to
the genocide of 1.5 million Armenians as merely "the events."

Six WilsonAlliances members - BAE, Bechtel, Boeing, Chevron, Coca
Cola, and Exxon-Mobil - are also dues paying members of the American
Turkish Council (ATC). The ATC calls itself a "business association."

Its membership includes over 100 major Turkish and American
corporations. Among its leadership team of some 100 Turks and
Americans, it is nearly impossible to find even one person who is
not a top corporate executive, former military officer, or former
government official. The ATC has long lobbied against Armenian
genocide resolutions. Former Lt. Gen. Brent Scowcroft, chairman of
its Executive Committee, once told Congress that what happened to
Armenians is "widely disputed."

ATC member Lockheed-Martin Corp., which penned a letter opposing the
Armenian resolution, has also contributed money to the WWC.

DLA PIPER AND OTHER TURKISH LOBBYISTS

DLA Piper is a gigantic, worldwide legal and corporate services firm
that has registered with the US government as a foreign agent for
Turkey. The firm is well-known for having lobbied against Armenian
Americans and is currently setting up an office in Istanbul.

Ignacio Sanchez is a lawyer employed by DLA Piper. He "represents
national and international clients on a broad range of issues ...

before Congress" for his firm.

Sanchez also happens to sit on the Wilson Center's Board of Trustees.

DLA Piper's contract with Turkey states that its "services shall
include ... preventing the introduction, debate and passage of
legislation and other U.S. government action that harms Turkey's
interests and image."

DLA Piper has partially subcontracted its Turkish role to The
Livingston Group. Headed by former disgraced House Speaker Robert
Livingston, who denies the Armenian genocide and lobbies against
Armenian genocide resolutions, it has been a registered agent of
Turkey.

DLA Piper also has what it terms a "strategic alliance" with The Cohen
Group (TCG), headed by former Defense Secretary William Cohen. TCG
represents large corporations who do business with Turkey. It is an
ATC member, and two of its employees sit on the ATC Advisory Board.

TCG's Vice President, Marc Grossman, was the US ambassador to Turkey
from 1994-97. Among former diplomats, he is probably Turkey's biggest
defender.

He has opposed passage of Armenian genocide resolutions. A few years
ago, Grossman reportedly joined Ilhas Holding, a Turkish firm.

It is also known that whistleblower and former FBI translator Sibel
Edmonds has made very serious allegations about the ATC, Grossman,
and Turkey. These have not yet been adjudicated in a court of law.

And whom did the WWC recently select to be one of its "Public Policy
Scholars"? Marc Grossman.

The WWC seems to be quite fond of corporations (and their money),
lobbying firms, and people strongly affiliated with Turkey that in
many cases oppose acknowledgment of the Armenian genocide.

The above barely skims the surface of the Wilson Center's cozy
financial relationships with huge corporations.

PLAYING WITH GENOCIDE INQUIRIES

We must digress briefly for an example of how former government
officials work their way into genocide inquiries that are best left
to those more suitable.

Former Defense Secretary William Cohen (of the Turkish-affiliated TCG)
and former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright chaired the Genocide
Prevention Task Force mentioned above.

As private citizens, Cohen and Albright opposed the Armenian Genocide
Resolution. Their appointment to the GPTF was thus justifiably
criticized as incompatible with its very purpose.

The GPTF was jointly convened by the Congressionally-funded,
so-called US Institute of Peace, the US Holocaust Memorial Museum,
and the American Academy of Diplomacy (AAD).

The latter is composed of former high-level US State Department
officials. AAD's chairman is retired ambassador Thomas Pickering. He
was formerly a VP of Boeing, the same company that has beseeched
Congress not to pass the Armenian Genocide Resolution.

The GPTF's final 147-page report (Preventing Genocide: a Blueprint
for US Policymakers) contained just two miniscule references to the
Armenian genocide. Sure enough, they used the terms "forced exile"
and "atrocities", not genocide. The report was also widely criticized
by scholars.

Incidentally, who sits on the AAD's Board? If you guessed the
ubiquitous Marc Grossman of the Wilson Center and pro-Turkish TCG,
you'd be correct.

CORPORATE PERKS

The WWC provides many benefits to corporations that contribute money
to its WilsonAlliances. For example, they receive "complimentary use"
of the WWC's facilities, the Reagan Federal Building, blocks from
the White House. They also get "private customized meetings with
[WWC] staff and scholars to discuss policy issues that are specific
to your business interests."

Did WWC/Turkish-affiliated corporations use "private customized
meetings" to urge the WWC to honor Davutoglu, perhaps in expectation
that it would enhance their "business interests" with Turkey?

Did any WWC/Turkish-affiliated lobbying firm or person ask the WWC
to give Davutoglu an award?

We don't know the answers to these questions. Only those corporations,
lobbyists, and other figures, together with Lee Hamilton and WWC
personnel, can answer them, preferably under oath.

In a phone message, Sharon Coleman McCarter, WWC Communications
Director, said that the Center is honoring the Turkish Foreign Minister
because of "public service to his country and the world."

Turkey, or some Turks, may like its foreign minister, but, as this
writer has shown, he has certainly done nothing to benefit "the world."

McCarter also claimed that Davutoglu "is in the Wilsonian tradition"
because, like Wilson, he has been in academia and government. If
you teach and then enter government service, you're automatically
"Wilsonian" and thus a candidate for the WWC award? This is
preposterous.

INSULTING PREVIOUS AWARDEES

Who have the nearly 150 previous WWC awardees been? Mostly Americans:
philanthropists, doctors, members of Congress, former diplomats,
architects, actors, and the like.

They range from James Baker, Dr. Denton Cooley, Betty Ford, Frank
Gehry, John Glenn, and Amb. Howard Leach to Janet Napolitano, Dolly
Parton, Gen. Colin Powell (and his wife), Andrew Lloyd Webber, and
Andrew Young.

There are also some foreign political honorees, such as former Indian
President A. P. J. Abdul Kalam, and some relatively non-controversial
figures from Brazil and South Korea.

The threatening, blustering, genocide-denying Davutoglu, from a
country with a wretched human rights record, would stand out in the
Wilson Center's Public Service roster like a sore thumb.

It would be an insult to previous awardees.

For its Public Service Award, the WWC had its pick of thousands
of principled individuals from the US or elsewhere doing vital
humanitarian work, including the recognition and prevention of
genocide. Instead, the WWC has engaged in the worst kind of political
pandering by selecting Davutoglu.

THE SMITHSONIAN AND THE ATC

The rot may go even higher, up to the WWC's parent, the famed
Smithsonian Institution, three-quarters of whose annual $1
billion budget comes from taxpayers. It, too, is a member of the
genocide-denying American Turkish Council.

The Smithsonian is supposed to be respectful of America's multi-ethnic
heritage and pay homage to our country's history, part of which
is Wilson's support of Armenians and condemnation of Turkey for
committing genocide. There is no good reason for the Smithsonian to be
a member of the ATC, which is primarily a lobby for Turkish-affiliated
corporations. It should withdraw from the ATC.

And what must the WWC do to return to its Wilsonian roots?

REFORMING THE WWC

The WWC must abandon its plans to honor Davutoglu. Those who care
about Wilson's legacy - members of Congress, ordinary Americans,
and those whose relatives were lost to Turkish genocidal acts -
must contact the WWC and insist on this.

Congress and the Attorney General must launch investigations into
possible conflicts of interest at the WWC, particularly regarding
its corporate and Turkish connections. The WWC director and staff
must testify under oath.

Wilson Center personnel, and those affiliated with it, particularly
scholars, must speak out publicly against pandering to corporations
and lobbying organizations.

Those whose business or personal interests may conflict with their
WWC role should resign.

The WWC must reject all tainted corporate cash.

Recognized genocide scholars should be invited to speak at the Wilson
Center and write in its Wilson Quarterly. The WWC should create a
principled program on genocide.

The WWC must establish a meaningful, ongoing dialogue with those
persons and their descendants who have been victimized by Turkey's
genocides.

The WWC must return to its Congressional mandate by truly rededicating
itself to Wilson's "ideals, concerns, and accomplishments" and by
advocating against genocide and for the human rights and dignity of
all people.


Edited by Arpa, 21 May 2010 - 09:35 AM.


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Posted 04 June 2010 - 08:40 AM

What kind of medicine does this woman take? See highlight “Armenia”.
"She said that if Armenia and Turkey opened the borders, this would open a market of 80 million people for Armenia and boost GDP. The ambassador hoped the border between Armenia and Azerbaijan would open too."
“Armenia open borders”? HUH! :huh:
Anyone making such statements should be branded as a borderline boob. She is the ambassador of where? Lalaland?
When did Armenia CLOSE the BORDER, to open it again?
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US AMBASSADOR: CLOSED BORDERS IN THE 21ST CENTURY ARE AN ABNORMALITY
Yerkir
03.06.2010 13:45
Yerevan
Yerevan (Yerkir) - Addressing students at the American University in
Yerevan yesterday, Marie Yovanovitch, the US ambassador to Armenia,
said that the USA welcomed the decision of Armenian President Serzh
Sargsyan to suspend the ratification of the rapprochement protocols
rather than to stop the process altogether.

Yovanovith said that relations between Armenia and Turkey had not
normalized as soon as expected, but progress had nonetheless been made.

The ambassador said that the normalization of Armenian-Turkish
relations would promote progress in both countries and the region as
a whole. She said Armenia could not develop with closed borders.

"Closed borders in the 21st century are an abnormality," she repeated
several times during her speech.

She said that if Armenia and Turkey opened the borders, this would open
a market of 80 million people for Armenia and boost GDP. The ambassador
hoped the border between Armenia and Azerbaijan would open too.


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Posted 21 June 2010 - 09:22 AM

I am surprised, none of our savvy politicians picked up on the following theme that alluded to above.
Here is a quote from that quote.

AN UNDESERVED AWARD

The WWC's director, former Congressman Lee Hamilton, says that
Davutoglu "personifies the attributes we seek to honor at the Woodrow
Wilson Center" and has "catalyzed" Turkish policy.

It is appalling that the WWC would honor a top official of a country
that in so many ways is a major human rights violator. Moreover,
Davutoglu's own record - including his much- ballyhooed "zero problems
with neighbors" policy - is undistinguished.

But even more to the point, Davutoglu's policies are the very
antithesis of Woodrow Wilson's "ideals and concerns."

None of us had the sense to see the “other side of the coin”. From another forum.
In translation (paraphrased) of selected passages;
Therefor the accepting of the Wilson award by that master of “monkey business” , is tantamount to and acknowledgement that there even was a Woodrow Wilson who delineated the map of ARMENIA at the Treaty of Sevre, a thorn in the sides of er-DOG-an and dav-IT-oglu.

Վիլսոն եւ Դաւութօղլու
,,,,Առաջին հայեացքով տեսանելի է այս երկու անձնանուններու իրար չհամապատասխանելը: Առաջինը՝ կայսերական Թուրքիան մասնատող քարտէսը գծող ամերիկացի նախագահի ազգանունն է. եւ երկրորդը՝ Թուրքիայի այժմու արտաքին գործոց նախարարի ազգանուն է:
,,,,Երբ առջի հեղ լսեցի Դաւութողլուին Վիլսոնի անուան մրցանակ տալու լուրը, ջղայնացայ, յետոյ մտածեցի՝ երեւի ջղայնացողը [/b]Դաւութօղլուն պէտք է ըլլայ, ու, կարծես թէ, փաղաքշական ապտակ մըն է այս մրցանակը անոր տալը, քանի որ Վիլսոնը մեռած է, ու հազիւ թէ անդի աշխարհէն փոխէ իր միտքը, ու յետս կանչէ իր գծած Վիլսոնեան Հայաստանը: Ուրեմն, փաստօրէն, Էրդողանի վարչակարգը ներայացնողը, աշխարհին առջեւ կ’ընդունի Վիլսոնը՝ անոր կատարած գործերը, եւ ընդունելով Վիլսոնը, կընդունի նաեւ անոր անուան մրցանակը:[/b]
,,,,Իհարկէ՝ ո՛չ Էրդողան, ո՛չ ալ Դաւութօղլու կ’ընդունին Սեւրի դաշնագիրն ու այդ դաշնագիրին մէջ տեղ գտած Վիլսոնեան Հայաստանը: Վերադառնալով առաջին անգամուայ տպաւորութեանս, կրկնեմ գրածս՝ մասխարա, խեղկատակութիւն, ծամածռութիւն, կապիկութիւն: Թուրքը այնքա՛ն կապիկագէտ է (դիւանագէտ չըսելու համար), որ կրնայ իրեն ուղղուած արհամարհանքը ժպիտով եւ տօնական մթնոլորտով ընդունիլ: Պահ մը երեւակայեցէ՛ք մեր մեկ քաղաքական գործիչին տան Աբդուլհամիդի անուան մրցանակ՝ Հայկական աշխարհը տակնուվրայ կ’ըլլայ:
Կարծես թէ զօրութիւնը մարդուս ինքնավստահ կը դարձնէ: Թուրքը զօրաւոր է, այդ պատճառով ալ իրեն դէմ ուղղուած հրացանի եւ խօսքի փողը առանց տագնապի կընդունի


Where are our pundits to show that canine who and what Wilson was. Certainly NOT A FURKOPHILE.
When did Wilson praise the likes of hamid and mehmet?
Wilson was a Demcrat with the narrowest margin for the presidency at a time when the US Congress was majority Republican whose main argument was “why should we send American boys to keep the peace in a land where there are hardly any Armenians” left? Of course by then the Land was “cleansed” where even one Armenian was left.**
** When the Yerevan Province and the Stepanakert Province are “cleansed” of (emigrated) Armenians, when the only citizens left are Serzh and Bako who will defend the Land?
The US Marines?
Yes, yes. I will immigrate to Armenia after the “emigration” has stopped and the Land has turned to a azi-turko desert.

Edited by Arpa, 21 June 2010 - 11:18 PM.


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Posted 22 June 2010 - 03:26 AM

Հաւանական է նաեւ, որ Նախագահ Սարգսեանի՝ Վիլսոն նախագահի գերեզմանին ունեցած ելոյթին ի պատասխան, թուրքերը, գնեցին մրցանակը: Johannes



Չնայած բազմաթիվ բողոքներին և դժգոհություններին, Թուրքիայի արտգործնախարար Ահմեդ Դավութօղլուն, այնուամենայնիվ, արժանացավ Վաշինգտոնի Վուդրո Վիլսոն հետազոտական կենտրոնի (think-tank) մրցանակին: Եթե այս իրադարձությունը հայերիս համար կարելի է գնահատել որպես միջադեպ` ցավալի ու անցանկալի, սակայն այնուամենայնիվ միջադեպ, ապա այն լուրջ հարված է ամերիկյան վերլուծական կենտրոնների վարկին: Ցանկացած վերլուծական կենտրոնի հիմնական արժանիքը նրա ինքնուրույնությունն է, այսինքն անկախ վերլուծություններ և անաչառ կանխատեսումներ անելու ունակությունը: Ծախված լինելն ամենավատ բնութագրականն է որևէ վերլուծական կենտրոնի համար: Մրցանակ շնորհելով Դավութօղլուին Վուդրո Վիլսոն կենտրոնն ընդունեց, որ պարզապես աճուրդով վաճառել է մրցանակը, կամ ինչպես իրենք էին փաթեթավորել գեղեցիկ բառերով` ՚մրցանակի հանձնումը մաս է կազմում իրենց դրամահավաքի ջանքերինՙ: ("The Wilson Center said in an e-mailed statement that the award is part of its fund-raising effort.")

Իհարկե Վուդրո Վիլսոն կենտրոնը իրավականորեն որևէ պարտավորություն չունի Միացյալ Նահանգների 28-րդ նախագահի հայացքներն ու քաղաքական մոտեցումներն արժեվորելու առումով: Այսուհանդերձ, այդ անունը որոշակի բարոյական պատասխանատվություն է դնում կենտրոնի վրա: Վիլսոնն առաջինն էր պետության ղեկավարներից, ով համաշխարհային մակարդակով բարձրացրեց ժողովուրդների ինքնորոշման հարցը: Ինչպե՞ս կարելի մրցանակ տալ մի երկրի արտգործնախարարին, որն արդեն տասնամյակներ արյան մեջ խեղդում է քրդերի ինքնորոշման իրավունքը: Թուրքիան տրորելով քրդերի ինքնորոշման իրավունքը` ոտնահարում է Վիլսոնի քաղաքական ժառանգությունը:

Ցավոք, Վուդրո Վիլսոնի ժառանգության և ամերիկյան արժանապատվության ոտնահարման գործին մասնակից դարձավ նաև Միացյալ Նահանգների արդարամիտ նախագահ Վուդրո Վիլսոնի անունը կրող վերլուծական կենտրոնը:




Արա ՊապյանՄոդուս վիվենդի կենտրոնի ղեկավար18 հունիսի 2010թ.

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Posted 22 June 2010 - 03:28 AM

They [Turks] had exhibited complete absence of common sense and a total misunderstanding of the West. They had imagined that the [Paris Peace] Conference knew no history and was ready to swallow enormous falsehoods.President Woodrow Wilson, June 26, 1919, Paris

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Posted 22 June 2010 - 08:21 AM

Turkey's 'zero problems' policy is a flop

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Posted 22 June 2010 - 08:24 AM

They [Turks] had exhibited complete absence of common sense and a total misunderstanding of the West. They had imagined that the [Paris Peace] Conference knew no history and was ready to swallow enormous falsehoods.President Woodrow Wilson, June 26, 1919, Paris

ԱՒԵՏԱՐԱՆԱԿԱՆ ՃՇՄԱՐՏՈՒԹԻՒՆ/Gospel Truth?
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ՁԱՅՆ ԲԱՐԲԱՌԻ ԱՆԱՊԱՏՈՅ/Voice in the Wilderness?
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The Woodrow Wilson Center has Violated the Legacy of President Wilson and the Dignity of America
[ 2010/06/22 | 11:33 ] world politics
They [Turks] had exhibited complete absence of common sense and a total misunderstanding of the West. They had imagined that the [Paris Peace] Conference knew no history and was ready to swallow enormous falsehoods. President Woodrow Wilson, June 26, 1919, Paris (The Papers of Woodrow Wilson, v. 61, June 18 – July 25, 1919, New Jersey, 1989, p. 210)
In spite of numerous complaints and protests, Turkey’s Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu nevertheless received the Woodrow Wilson Award for Public Service from the Washington, DC-based think tank, the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars. Whereas this turn of events can be qualified as merely an incident for us Armenians, a painful and undesirable one, but just an incident all the same, this is a serious blow, on the other hand, to the credibility of American think tanks.
The principle value of a think tank is in its freedom, that is, in its ability to carry out independent analysis and present an objective outlook. To be on someone else’s payroll would be the worst kind of reputation for any think tank. By presenting an award to Davutoglu, the Woodrow Wilson Center brought to light the fact that it has simply auctioned off the prize, or, as they themselves worded beautifully, “The Wilson Center said in an e-mailed statement that the award is part of its fund-raising effort.”
Of course, the Woodrow Wilson Center has no legal obligation in terms of upholding the views and policies of the 28th President of the United States. Still, the very name places certain moral responsibilities on the center. Wilson was the first among heads of state to raise the issue of the self-determination of peoples to the international stage. How does one justify bestowing an award to the foreign minister of a country which, for decades now, has been drowning the right to self-determination of the Kurdish people in blood? By violating the right to self-determination of the Kurds, Turkey is violating Wilson’s political legacy as well. It is most unfortunate that among those with a part to play in violating the legacy of Woodrow Wilson and the dignity of America is the think tank bearing the name of the just president of the United States, Woodrow Wilson.
Ara Papian
Head of the Modus Vivendi Center
18 June, 2010
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Just so we see the terminology in Armenian;

Վուդրո Վիլսոն կենտրոնը ոտնահարեց** նախագահ Վիլսոնի ժառանգությունն ու ամերիկյան արժանապատվությունը
[ 2010/06/22 | 11:33 ] աշխարհ, քաղաքականություն
Նրանք [թուրքերը] ի հայտ բերեցին բանականության կատարյալ բացակայություն և Արևմուտքի լիակատար թյուրըմբռնում: Նրանք երևակայում էին, որ [Փարիզի խաղաղության] վեհաժողովը պատմություն չգիտի և պատրաստ է կուլ տալու [իրենց] հրեշավոր կեղծիքները (ԱՄՆ նախագահ Վուդրո Վիլսոն, 26 հունիսի 1919թ., Փարիզ)
Չնայած բազմաթիվ բողոքներին և դժգոհություններին` Թուրքիայի արտգործնախարար Ահմեդ Դավութօղլուն, այնուամենայնիվ, արժանացավ Վաշինգտոնի Վուդրո Վիլսոն հետազոտական կենտրոնի (think-tank) մրցանակին: Եթե այս իրադարձությունը հայերիս համար կարելի է գնահատել որպես միջադեպ` ցավալի ու անցանկալի, սակայն այնուամենայնիվ միջադեպ, ապա այն լուրջ հարված է ամերիկյան վերլուծական կենտրոնների վարկին:
Ցանկացած վերլուծական կենտրոնի հիմնական արժանիքը նրա ինքնուրույնությունն է, այսինքն` անկախ վերլուծություններ և անաչառ կանխատեսումներ անելու ունակությունը: Ծախված լինելն ամենավատ բնութագրականն է որևէ վերլուծական կենտրոնի համար: Մրցանակ շնորհելով Դավութօղլուին` Վուդրո Վիլսոն կենտրոնն ընդունեց, որ պարզապես աճուրդով վաճառել է մրցանակը, կամ ինչպես իրենք էին փաթեթավորել գեղեցիկ բառերով, «մրցանակի հանձնումը մաս է կազմում իրենց դրամահավաքի ջանքերին» (“The Wilson Center said in an e-mailed statement that the award is part of its fund-raising effort”):
Իհարկե Վուդրո Վիլսոն կենտրոնը իրավականորեն որևէ պարտավորություն չունի Միացյալ Նահանգների 28-րդ նախագահի հայացքներն ու քաղաքական մոտեցումներն արժեվորելու առումով: Այսուհանդերձ, այդ անունը որոշակի բարոյական պատասխանատվություն է դնում կենտրոնի վրա: Վիլսոնն առաջինն էր պետության ղեկավարներից, ով համաշխարհային մակարդակով բարձրացրեց ժողովուրդների ինքնորոշման հարցը: Ինչպե՞ս կարելի է մրցանակ տալ մի երկրի արտգործնախարարին, որն արդեն տասնամյակներ արյան մեջ խեղդում է քրդերի ինքնորոշման իրավունքը: Թուրքիան, տրորելով քրդերի ինքնորոշման իրավունքը, ոտնահարում է Վիլսոնի քաղաքական ժառանգությունը: Ցավոք, Վուդրո Վիլսոնի ժառանգության և ամերիկյան արժանապատվության ոտնահարման գործին մասնակից դարձավ նաև Միացյալ Նահանգների արդարամիտ նախագահ Վուդրո Վիլսոնի անունը կրող վերլուծական կենտրոնը:
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18 հունիսի 2010թ.

** Ոտնահարեց =kicked= աքացի տուավ
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 11:51 AM


Gobbledygook, turkey talk . One is inclined to assume that term was coined by us Armenians.

Gobbledygook or gobbledegook (sometimes gobbledegoo) is any text containing jargon or especially convoluted English that results in it being excessively hard to understand or even incomprehensible.

http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=aWgRtDIA2U4&feature=related

Etymology
Gobbledygook - pronunciation of the term in US English
The term gobbledygook was coined by former US Representative Maury Maverick, then working for the Smaller War Plants Corporation, in a March 30, 1944 memo banning "gobbledygook language".[2] It was a reaction to his frustration with the "convoluted language of bureaucrats."[3] He made up the word as an onomatopoeic imitation of a turkey's gobble.[2

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Here are some of the synonyms of that bird. Note that most of them are based on sound;

ՀՆԴԿԱՀԱՒ= Հնդուհաւ, հնդաքաղաղ, ճուրճուր, ճուռճուռ, կորել, կոռել, ճոլոկ, կուլկուլ, կուռկուռ, քելքել, ՃՈՒԼՈՒԽ, մսրահաւ:

To my surprise, I had known “joulookh/ճուլուխ”, (we pronounced it with a double L) but I assumed it was from that other language.
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There seems to be more than one gobble gobble in that country, in fact it is assumed to be 80 million of them. Some go “gobble gobble” and others go “boogle boogle”. Even those innocent birds are more honest. They don’t “speak” from both sides of the mouth.
Shall we sign our names in chicken scratch on the dotted lines under that gobbledygook aka proCtocols?
http://news.am/eng/news/25594.html

July 21, 2010 | 15:59
Despite Turkish FM Ahmet Davutoglu’s statements, Turkish diplomatic sources are confident the Armenian-Turkish border will be reopened during NATO maneuvers.
Journal of Turkish Weekly writes that, under pressure, Turkey will allow NATO equipment to pass through its territory, particularly through Doğukapı, Kars.
According to the source, the Armenian-Turkish border will be reopened for a certain period.
NATO maneuvers are to be held in Kotayk, Armenia, on September 11-17.
Inconsistent information is received from Turkey. Referring to the Kars Government, mass media reported that Turkey did not rule out temporary reopening of the border. The Turkish FM refuted the reports later. However, the “guarantee” message was intended for Azerbaijan. Now Turkish media are discussing the topic again. Therefore, this issue of public concern is not completely clear as the Turkish FM claims it to be.



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Posted 22 July 2010 - 06:30 AM

Allow mE to repeat what I had said before.
Any self respecting Armenian that attends that “circus”, be they lay, clergy, diplomat et al should be publicly ostracized.(Except maybe a few sharp eyed and sharp tongued investigative journalists)
Anyone here intending to attend? Anyone here knows someone who intends to attend?
THIS IS THE PERFECT TIME TO FLOOD THE WORLD MEDIA WITH THE DEFINITION OF “HYPOCRISY” .
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Mass at Akhtamar Another Show By Turkey, Says Genocide Museum Director
Posted By Contributor On July 21, 2010 @ 1:43 pm In Armenia, Featured Story, International, Top Stories, Turkey, Turkey-Armenia Relations | No Comments
Holy Cross Armenian Church on Akhtamar Island
YEREVAN (PanARMENIAN)—Director of the Armenian Genocide Museum-Institute, historian Hayk Demoyan said that the planned religious ceremony scheduled for September 19 at the Holy Cross Armenian Church on Akhtamar Island is just another show by Turkey.
“The 10th century Holy Apostles (Surp Arakelots) Armenian temple has been converted into a mosque. I would rather have the Turkish authorities restore this temple to its original state, instead of organizing a ceremony at Holy Cross,” said Demoyan, describing the planned one-day religious service as an act which is meant to fool the international community, rather than appease it.
He added that it would be prudent if Armenia refrained from sending an official delegation to participate in the ceremony at the Holy Cross church, which was once the seat of the Armenian Catholicos.

The 1,100-year-old Akhtamar Church was opened in 2007 at a ceremony that hosted officials from Armenia and Turkey following a controversial two-year long restoration process by the Turkish government. The restoration cost some $1.7 million.
Earlier this year, Turkey gave permission for an annual religious rite that would take place every year at the church in the second week of September, upon proposal by the Van Governor’s Office and approval by Turkish Minister of Culture and Tourism Ertugrul Gunay
The Turkish authorities, who have not placed a cross on the church yet, continue violating provisions of the Treaty of Lausanne signed in 1923, Demoyan told a press conference in Yerevan.
According to the historian, Armenian-Turkish relations should not be assessed as a separate process any longer, but rather it should be addressed within the context of regional development between neighboring countries.
“The first stage of the Armenian-Turkish relations ended with the signing of the two protocols, but not their ratification. The Turkish side devalued the essence of those documents,” Demoyan said.
“These two protocols helped to expose two bluffs by Turkey, which had been misleading the international community ever since Armenia’s independence. The first was that Armenia had territorial claims. The second one concerned the Armenian Genocide. The Turkish side did not ratify the protocols, which envisioned the subcommittee on historic issues, because they came to understand that irrespective of the signing and ratification of the protocols the international recognition of the Armenian Genocide would continue to be a separate process,” added Demoyan.
The Armenian Genocide Museum-Institute’s aim is to accurately document and illustrate all materials related to the Armenian Genocide of 1915-1923. Demoyan has held the post as the museum’s director since 2005.

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 07:12 AM

HH Karekin II not to attend service at Surb Khach

July 27, 2010 | 13:49
Catholicos of All Armenians Karekin II will not visit Turkey to attend the service at Surb Khach church in Akhtamar Island, the head of the press service of the Mother See of Holy Etchmiadzin Vahram Melikyan told NEWS.am.
According to him, two high ranking clergymen will participate in the service. However, Vahram Melikyan did not disclose their names and the precise date of the visit, noting that relevant information will be spread soon.
On September 19, Surb Khach church in Akhtamar Island will be opened for services at the initiative of the Van Governor and Constantinople Patriarchate. Turkish side stated that cross will be put on the dome.

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 10:53 AM

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Turkey is getting prepared for border opening?
July 31, 2010 - 14:10 AMT Posted Image 09:10 GMTPanARMENIAN.Net - Turkey is carrying out research works at its border with Armenia.

At the request of Igdir province governor, a delegation of Erzurum regional department of roads arrived in the region, CNNTurk reported. Experts of the department are studying a 6-km section of Alijan checkpoint between Armenia and Turkey, as well as the bridge located at the border.

The delegation will submit a report on the study results to Igdir regional department soon.



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Posted 09 August 2010 - 01:58 PM

How reliable is Panorama?

Panorama, Armenia
Aug 6 2010
Turkey bans Van residents to host Armenians
The upcoming opening of St. Cross Armenian church on Akhtamar island
has brought about lots of rumor and concerns.
According to Yerkramas paper, though Turkey is making every possible
effort to draw the attention of the international community to the
circumstance that they are expressing their good will and do their
best to conduct the holy mass in the church duly, however, their
actions point just the opposite.
According to the source, thousands of Diaspora Armenians have voiced a wish to participate in the festive event, and around 6 thousand
residents of Van have expressed readiness to host the guests. This has made Turkish special services feel suspicious and currently they are
conducting investigation to find out whether these are not the
Armenian generations of Van
, ready to host Diaspora Armenians.
According to the source, some families have been banned to host
Armenians in their homes.
Remind that the opening of the church is due September 19.

How reliable is Panorama?
Let’s take the highlights from above…
To my big Armenian nose, this is the smelliest aghb ever. In English slang it is known as BS, in their non-language it is known as “zibil”.
How many here plan to attend? How many here knows another person that plans to attend?

According to the source, thousands of Diaspora Armenians have voiced a wish to participate in the festive event, and around 6 thousand
residents of Van have expressed readiness to host the guests.

This has made Turkish special services feel suspicious and currently they are
conducting investigation to find out whether these are not the
Armenian generations of Van
, ready to host Diaspora Armenians.
According to the source, some families have been banned to host
Armenians in their homes.

AH!!! Someone knows how to spell the "ermeni" word. Is someone admitting that some, many residents of Van are in fact crypto-hidden Armenians? Who, after coming back from the mosque go to their innermost sanctums and recite the Lord’s Prayer/Տէրունական Աղօթք/Հայր Մեր ?
Even if at times it may sound like this;

Ey göklerde olan Babamız,
İsmin mukaddes olsun;
Melekûtun gelsin;....


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Posted 10 August 2010 - 07:33 AM

Թուրքերն սպառնում են Արարատ լեռան վրա «թաղել» հայերին

Թուրքիայի Աղրը նահանգի Առևտրա-արդյունաբերական պալատի նախագահ Մեհմեդ Էրաթը կոշտ հայտարարություն է արել օրեր առաջ հայկական արշավախմբի` Արարատ լեռ բարձրանալու առնչությամբ։ Այս մասին տեղեկացնում է թուրքական Ankara գործակալությունը:
Մեհմեդ Էրաթը հայտարարել է, թե արշավախմբի` Արարատ լեռ բարձրանալու առնչությամբ տարածված տեղեկություններն անհիմն են, ապա ասել. «Սակայն եթե նման բան կա, ապա աղրըցիներն իրենց մտահոգությունն են հայտնում:


Մենք ուզում ենք հավատալ, որ այդ պնդումներն անհիմն են: Իսկ եթե այդ տեղեկություններն արտացոլում են իրականությունը, մենք լավ գիտենք՝ ինչպես իջեցնել Հայաստանի դրոշը և բարձրացնել Թուրքիայի դրոշն Արարատ լեռան վրա Հայաստանի կողմից»,- հայտարարել է Էրաթը` ավելացնելով.

«Եթե աղրըցիները տեղյակ լինեին այդ մասին, այդ լեռնագնացներին կթաղեին Արարատ լեռան վրա»:

Հիշեցնենք, որ օրեր առաջ Հարավային Կալիֆոռնիայի, Նյու Ջերսիի, Կանադայի ու Ֆրեզնոյի 11 սփյուռքահայեր, ձևավորելով «Արարատ 11» խումբը, բարձրացել էին Արարատ լեռան գագաթը և այնտեղ կանգնեցրել Հայաստանի և Արցախի պետական դրոշները:


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Աղրըի նահանգապետարանը հետաքննություն է սկսել հայկական արշավախմբի` Արարատ լեռ բարձրանալու և լեռան գագաթին Հայաստանի և Արցախի պետական դրոշները պարզելու փաստի առնչությամբ: Այս մասին, թուրքական Milliyet օրաթերթի փոխանցմամբ, հայտարարել է թուրք պաշտոնյաներից մեկը, ով չի ցանկացել ներկայանալ:

«Դեպքի առնչությամբ հետաքննություն է սկսվել, որի ընթացքում կպարզվի, թե որտեղ են մնացել 11 օտարերկրացիները, և ովքեր են նրանց ուղեկցել լեռան գագաթ: Դողուբայազեթում կան մեծ թվով ուղեկցողներ: Եթե Թուրքիայի Լեռնագնացների ֆեդերացիան համապատասխան աշխատանքներ իրականացնի ուղեկցորդների շրջանում, նման բաներ չեն լինի»,- հայտարարել է պաշտոնյան:

Հիշեցնենք, որ օրեր առաջ Հարավային Կալիֆոռնիայի, Նյու Ջերսիի, Կանադայի ու Ֆրեզնոյի 11 սփյուռքահայեր, ձևավորելով «Արարատ 11» խումբը, բարձրացել էին Արարատ լեռան գագաթը և այնտեղ կանգնեցրել Հայաստանի և Արցախի պետական դրոշները:




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