You missed the point. The word Ararat is as foreign as is the word Urartu. One is Assyrian the other is the Hebrew rendition of the Assyrian found in the Bible.
Ararat is Hebrew? I thought it was RRT and not Ararat.
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Posted 04 July 2010 - 08:24 AM
Congratulations. The fact that you spell your screen name with the B=Բ not P=Պ as an average diasporan would speaks well of you. You seem to be well versed in the subject, or in the least interested as a few of us, you may find the following thread interesting , and add your your wisdom.I'm not too familiar with these subjects, so I use my logic most of the time.
As far as I know, Urartians did not speak Indo-european, neither did they call themselves Urartians. The word Urartu was never used by them, but the people around them called the region Urartu.
Now, as far as I understand, Urartu is just the Assyrian version of Ararat. One of the regions of Mets Hayq was called Ayrarat, which is around Masis mountain. So I assume Ararat is the hebrew version of Ayrarat. Not to mention that in the Bible it says that Noah's Arc landed on the mountains of Ararat, signifying that Ararat is a region and not a mountain.
If we break down the word Ayrarat, we get Ayr-arat
Ayr - the name of the race that speaks Indo-european.
Arat - I don't know. I remember reading a while ago that it meant land. Another place I read said that it means -given.
As we all know, the name Bagrat is originally Bagarat.
Bag - God
Arat - given?? such that Bagarat - Godgiven? Ayrarat - Ayrgiven?
the word Ayr is used a lot in our language, both in words and in place names, such as Avarayr.
The reason i'm bringing this up is because the world views Urartians as a race that does not speak indo-european. However, the land they live on is called Ayrarat by all their neighbors. This is like having a country called Ireland, and the people living there speak Japanese. Can we assume that the non indo-european speaking people (Argishti, and so on...) were actually intruders? As far as I know, us Armenians use a lot their words, so this whole thing is rather complicated.
***The paper copy spells it as ԱրարաԴ, while the other above spells it as ԱրարաՏ. No wonder we are such a confused lot!!Gen.8
[4] And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat.
4Եօթներորդ ամսի քսանեօթին տապանը նստեց Արարատ լերան** վրայ։ (Singular)
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(**My hard copy of the Bible in Armenian says-Արարատ լեռներուն վրայ .(Plural)
I did not know this. Another mention of (kingdom of)Ararat)
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Jer.51
[27] Set ye up a standard in the land, blow the trumpet among the nations, prepare the nations against her, call together against her the kingdoms of Ararat, Minni, and Ashchenaz; appoint a captain against her; cause the horses to come up as the rough caterpillers.
28Դրօ՛շ բարձրացրէք երկրի վրայ, փո՛ղ փչեցէք բոլոր ազգերի մէջ, զօրագնդե՛ր կանչեցէք նրա դէմ։ Իմ կողﬕց հրամա՛ն տուէք Այրարատեան*** թագաւորութիւններին և ասքանազեան գնդին, նրա շուրջը նետաձիգ սարքե՛ր կանգնեցրէք
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Posted 04 January 2011 - 10:09 AM
Turkish journalists visited the tomb of king of Urartu
January 04, 2011 | 09:32
Reporters from Turkish news agency Anadolu visited the famous cave fortress Horhor in Van, known as the tomb of the kings of Urartu.
Professor of archeology of Van University Rafet Cavusoglu who escorted the journalists, stated that Argishti 1, king of Urartu was buried in the cave.
Note that the carved inscription on the fortress of Van, provides important information about the time period of the reign of Argishti 1.
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Թուրք լրագրողներն այցելել են ուրարտական թագավորների հայտնի դամբարանը
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Թուրքական Anadolu լրատվական գործակալության թղթակիցներն այցելել են Վանա բերդի հայտնի Խորխոր քարանձավ, որը հայտնի է ինչպես ուրարտական թագավորների դամբարան։
Թուրք լրագրողներին ուղեկցել է Վանի հարյուրամյա համալսարանի հնագիտության բաժնի դասախոս Ռաֆեթ Չավուշօղլուն, ով հյուրերին տեղեկացրել է, որ այդ դամբարանում է ամփոփվել Ուրարտուի թագավոր Արգիշտի 1-ինը։
Նշենք, որ Վանա բերդի ժայռին փորագրված Խորխորյան տարեգրությունը կարեւոր տեղեկություններ է տալիս Արգիշտի 1-ինի գահակալության ժամանակաշրջանի վերաբերյալ:
Edited by Arpa, 04 January 2011 - 11:12 AM.
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