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Posted 27 October 2013 - 04:14 PM

Saakasvili To Face Criminal Charges after being kicked out of politic
while Turkey & Azerbaijan are in tears of lamentations

Georgia's prime minister, Bidzina Ivanishvili, who is also Georgia's richest man, has dismissed the outgoing president's achievements, calling Mr Saakashvili a "liar" and a "dictator". Mr Ivanishvili [son of Ivan] has not yet named his party's successor as prime minister, the one who will replace him according to his wishes although he is free to stay in power.

However he has indicated that Saakashvili could face questioning or even prosecution over the alleged crimes of his government after his term ends.

 

Among those crimes of Saakasvili and his his United National Movement Party, are the ones committed against the Armenian Georgian citizens of Javakhk and their Armenian leaders who were arrested on false charges and in particular the freedoms of assembly and expression was forbidden to Armenians of Javakhk. It's mentioned that most-likely Saakashvili is of Armenian decent; Saak-ashvili, which means son of Saako, and of Saakahvili himself mentioning sometimes that he has Armenian roots, but he hated the Armenians and the Russians and loved and slept in bed with Turkey and Azerbaijan.

 

Such traitors of Armenia, and such Armenian locos are not few in the Armenian history. In addition Saakasvili endorsed the destruction of Armenian churches in Georgia and giving some of them to the Georgian Orthodox churches and for this he could moreover face thief, vandalism and robbery charges. Saakashvili also refused to acknowledge the rights of ethnic Armenian minorities in Georgia while he gave broad rights to Turkish and Azerbaijani minorities in Georgia, even planning to populate the Javakh regions by Turks brought from outside Georgia.

On Oct. 21, during a campaign stop in Akhalkalak, on the eve of presidential elections in Georgia, and while escorting his Georgia Dream party candidate Giorgi Margvelashvili [Now the new president of Georgia] Prime Minister Ivanishvili said in Russian to Armenian Javakhk Voters: "He [Margvelashvili]  loves you and will work on your behalf. He will try to lighten your load” [the load that Saakashvili put on them].

 

We hope so and we hope the nightmares of the people of Javakhk are over now after the demise and persecution and imprisonment of Saakshvili in many criminal charges, like it happened to Yulia Tymoshenko of Ukraine, as a lesson to all future Georgian politicians and as a guarantee that genuine reforms and real democracy in Georgia will be established.
 


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 07:46 PM

EU CONCERNS

two European Union ministers expressed fears this week that Ivanishvili might take revenge on Saakashvili for blocking government decisions for months, by pressing for him to be prosecuted.

 

"The Europeans and Americans ... are giving us friendly advice, which I agree with: that it would not be in the country's interests if our president goes to jail," Ivanishvili said in his glass and metal residence overlooking the capital Tbilisi.

 

He said Saakashvili, catapulted into power by a bloodless revolution in 2003, could face questioning by police when he leaves office and loses immunity from prosecution.

But Ivanishvili said he would not push for an arrest, adding: "It's bad if a country's president might go to jail."

 

He did not say what Saakashvili might be accused of, although he has previously suggested he might be asked about the death of a former prime minister, Zurab Zhvania, who was poisoned by fumes said to have come from a faulty heater.

His comments were clearly intended to appease two EU foreign ministers, Sweden's Carl Bildt and Poland's Radoslaw Sikorski, who urged him in Tbilisi last week not to take revenge on his rival though the courts.

 

So, after Ivanishvili resigns after some weeks, the legal persecution or not-persecution of Saakashvili will be up to his successor

 

More: http://www.reuters.c...E99O11320131025



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Posted 27 October 2013 - 07:55 PM

What are the main foreign policy issues?

Since his election, Mr Ivanishvili has tried to mend Georgia's brittle relations with Russia. Ties were formally cut after the two former Soviet allies clashed in 2008 over South Ossetia, a Georgian breakaway region now firmly in the Russian camp.

But Mr Ivanishvili says he shares Mr Saakashvili's aspirations to join Nato and the EU.

Why is Mr Ivanishvili resigning as prime minister?

He says his aim is to wean Georgia off its "Messiah complex" - an alleged tendency to invest unrealistic expectations in a single strong leader [a dictator].

He cites Mr Saakashvili as a prime example, accusing his rival of falling prey to authoritarianism and corruption after coming to power on a wave of euphoria as leader of the 2003 Rose Revolution.

Some observers think Mr Ivanishvili plans to maintain influence through his as-yet-unannounced successor and the government with newly-enhanced powers that he is leaving in place.BBC
 



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Posted 27 October 2013 - 08:13 PM

Rights 'abuses' of Saakashvili

In the West, President Saakashvili is known as a man who brought democracy to Georgia....But Mr Ivanishvili, the acting PM, refers to the outgoing president as a "liar" and a "dictator".

"He [Saakashvili] said, one thing to the outside world, and did totally different things inside the country," Mr Ivanishvilli told the BBC from his residence.

"Under Saakashvili, abuses of people's rights inside Georgia were widespread. Anyone could have been targeted and sent to jail. Prisons were overcrowded [those included Armenians from Javakhk]. Properties were illegally confiscated,[those included Armenian properties,grave-yards and churches]" he said.

.....Since coming to power in the bloodless 2003 "Rose Revolution" Mr Saakashvili has implemented reforms which helped root out corruption. He cut bureaucracy and improved public services in the Caucasus republic, where poverty remains widespread.

But the country's prime minister [Ivanishvili] has dismissed these achievements, ...."Corruption was eradicated among the police, his government was proud of this for years. But later, they used the police force to commit violence against people. So we can't say it was an achievement," says Mr Ivanishvili.

"The biggest achievement, I would say, was the improvement of tax collection. Money started flowing into the state budget. But the budget was then abused - so this also cannot be counted as an achievement."

His [Ivanishvili's] allegations of "elite" corruption have led to a number of arrests and investigations of former officials from Mr Saakashvili's administration [hence the fear that now Saakashvili himself will be arrested and investigated].

Mr Ivanishvili, who credits his own government with establishing a transparent judicial system, does not exclude the possibility that Mr Saakashvili could also find himself under investigation once his presidential immunity is lifted.

"The process of restoration of justice is continuing, therefore such a probability cannot be ruled out," he said.
http://www.bbc.co.uk...europe-24672090
 



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Posted 27 October 2013 - 11:27 PM

The last taped rant of Saakasvili

On October 25 president Saakashvili was in Akhalkalaki of Javakhk in casual dress, his aim was apparently to gain votes for his party's candidate David Bakradze. After visiting the Armenian church in Akhalkalak he noticed a large lot of his bodyguards (he had more than a dozen of them) circling some five Armenians and restraining the Armenians who were protesting Saak's visit to their town. The president suddenly pushes his bodyguards apart from the 5 Armenian protesters and advancing confronted Vahagan Chakhalyan saying "I am here to listen, hello I listen." Both started talking in Georgian that was changed to Russian when the blood on both started boiling; then back to Georgian.

Vahagan was a known activist who wanted autonomy for the Armenian region. After all Saakavili gave autonomy to Ajara (or Ajaria) region of Georgia so why not the same treatment for the Javakhk! Vahagan did not advocate separatism, he wanted the Armenians of Javackhk to learn the Armenian language and literature without any hindrance, and he did not want the railroad to pass thru Akhalkalaki or near by. Also in 2005 Vahagan was against against withdrawal of the Russian military base from the town. Vahagan was arrested in 2008 and was imprisoned on what he claimed were trumped up charges related to weapons, armed hooliganism and acts against public order. In January 2013, after four & half years in jail, he was released as a result of broad amnesty issued by the current government of Georgia. Vahagan’s release was condemned by President Saakashvili and his UNM party, describing him as “the enemy of the Georgian state” and “inspirer of separatism in Javakheti”.

From the confrontation between Vahagan<>Saakashvili we see that the later is clearly a very paranoid person. We see Vahagan saying to Saak: "you took four years and a half of my life, and then he started complaining about what he called absence of Armenian literature from curriculum of local schools like Tumanyan and so on and also he raises the issue of those churches, which remain disputed between the Georgian Orthodox Church and the Armenian Apostolic Church" all the while Saak is saying "yes, I listen, da,  'hedo?'"

Then Vahagan said something that blew the top of head of Saak or blew his top off and made him angry and started shouting. What Vahagan said was:  “What has happened in Javakhk in the past ten years on your behalf  should be a matter of accountability in line with the Georgian law; whether it was done on your behalf or you were the one who gave the orders, I do not know; the law, the court has to decide it, if what you did was illegal or legal".

It is here that lawyer Saak interrupted Vahagan and started yelling: “Are you the one who should put me on the trial?.. a criminal like you should put me on the trial? I came here and I am ready to listen to every citizen, but I am not going to let people like you lecture me on morality. Now let me tell you what I have done in Akhalkalaki. What I have done was that I cut the ground from under feet of separatists like you,” adding that his government built roads and secured gas and electricity supplies and developed infrastructure in the region.

“Separatists like you who are going to separate Georgia into pieces and puppies of GRU [Russian military intelligence] will not lecture me in morality; you were sitting in jail on six charges.”

“No, no, not true, don’t touch my honor,” Vahagen responded but Saak continued repeating: “I am not going to let criminals like you to lecture me in morality.”


Seeing that the air was getting hot and that at any minute Vahagan would punch Saak with his fist on the face, the bodyguards stood between them and made Vahagan and his group to go away which they willingly did but turned around and said: “Misha go away; go Misha…" Misha is the pet name for Saak as his first name is Micaheal, they wanted Saak to go away from their town; but we in the tape Saak, surrounded by his bodyguards, running after them like a kid, or like a gang member from New York, shouting: “Where are you running you cowards? Come here; why are you running you coward separatists?” But the fact was his bodyguards were walking in line behind the Armenians and would not let any more confrontation between the two, while Saak kept yelling: "“Look, only five separatists are now left and that’s what we did; there were much more of them; run away you coward separatists; your patron GRU base is no longer here.”

Then Saak continues his tour, then he smiles at other nice Armenians telling them: "I love Akhalkalaki residents very much.”

Later on the same day Saak made a live televised statement from the presidential palace in Tbilisi, saying that the Samtskhe-Javakheti region was actually out of central government’s control before he came into power almost ten years ago; he also said that he is proud that it was made possible to enhance Georgian language programs for locals in the region and to develop various infrastructure projects there to help integrate it to the rest of Georgia. He again criticized GD for releasing Vahagan from prison (he was released together with thousands of others under the broad amnesty) and suggested that Vahagan was now acting with the support of the authorities.

“I want today’s incident to be the last one,” he said. But in two days, after his party lost the presidency (the parliament was lost years ago) that taped incident has been paranoid Saak's LAST RANT.

 

In the map below we see how Saak dismembered Georgia, the two green regions are now not a part of Georgia, and the one at city of Batum, known as Ajaria, Saak gave them autonomy but stubbornly refused autonomy for Javakhk with its town of Akhalkalaki, south of Georgia.

georgia_map.jpg
 



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Posted 28 October 2013 - 12:35 PM

Who the hell cares about sakakshvili!  Who is next ilkak ali-oghlu or mehmet osmanbokhoghlu?

Or erbokhan from istanbokh?


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Posted 28 October 2013 - 02:08 PM

Also note that one of contenders was David Bakradze.

Bagratuni, Bagrationi?

http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2013_10_28/Elections-in-Georgia-Margvelashvili-polls-62-Bakradze-21-Burdzhanadze-10-of-vote-8432/

Is the Georgian “adze” like the Persian “a-zade” as in Shah-zade, royal born.

Or as in Sheherazade?

Meaning Free-town/city/sheher?

Or is it like ahmadi-zade/ son of ahmed?

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David Bakradze, candidate from the United National Movement, gained 21.65 percent of the vote. He is followed by Nino Burdhzanadze, former Speaker of Parliament, with 10.14 percent.
Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2013_10_28/Elections-in-Georgia-Margvelashvili-polls-62-Bakradze-21-Burdzhanadze-10-of-vote-8432/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_Bagratid_dynasties

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagrationi_dynasty

BTW. The Armenian name A-ZAD/AZAT in fact means born free, from gods, with no human intervention.

Where is Hagarag to tell us that the Bagratunis were from the house of david, telaviv? :silly:


Edited by Arpa, 28 October 2013 - 02:16 PM.


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Posted 29 October 2013 - 04:43 AM

The above incident in the YouTube proved to be a staged event by Saakashvili for public relations purposes on the eve of the elections in Georgia. Vahagan himself said to the Armenian media that he was not looking for problems, was not protesting and was not looking forward for a confrontation with Michi (Saakashvili), but he was in the Armenian church courtyard with some of his friend when Michi came out of the church into the yard and started yelling: "where are those 'separatists' I want to speak with". Michi dragged the cameraman with him to film the confrontation in order to show how patriotic he his defending Georgia from the Russians and Armenian separatists. THE WHOLE STAGED (on the side of Saak not from the part of Vahagan) INCIDENT BACKFIRED ON SAAK! Everyone saw in the film how vulgar and cheap Saakasvili was acting like a street gang member. His party and their candidate lost the election. In the Armenian region, the Saak opposition, Margvelashvili, received 65 and 70 percent of the votes cast in the predominantly Armenian-populated regions of Akhalkalaki and Ninotsminda, respectively; while Saak's United National Movement party candidate Davit Bakradze, on the other hand, got 20 percent of the votes in both regions.

Armenians prefer a cultured and refined person like Margvelashvili for leadership who will not put yokes on them like Saak did but rather take those yokes away. Margvelashvili was born on September 4, 1969. In 1992, he graduated from the Faculty of Philosophy and Psychology of Tbilisi Ivane Javakhishvili State University. In 1994 he studied at the Faculty of Sociology at the Central European University. He holds PhD. Before coming into politics, he worked as a guide in the mountains and assistant manager at a publishing house. In 1995-2000 he was an interpreter at the U.S. National Democratic Institute (NDI), later he
held the post of the assistant and head of one of the programs at NDI.

In 2000-2002 Margvelashvili was the rector of the Georgian Institute of Public Affairs (GIPA), in 2006-2010 he headed the research department. Margvelashvili's latest post was the Minister of Education and Science of Georgia.

On May 11, 2013, the ruling Georgian Dream coalition, which is composed of 6 parties, advanced Margvelashvili's nominee for president of Georgia. Margvelashvili himself represents none of the 6 parties of the coalition.






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