
Mugham Vs. Rabiz
#1
Posted 08 November 2006 - 04:34 PM
First of all I would like to mention that this is my personal opinion about the mugham and rabiz and I am not forcing it to anyone. And I am going to keep my mind wide open to your suggestions and critisizm.
According to Mosjan mugham is originaly coming from Persia. I am not sure about that. But if even so than it must have Armenian-Aryan roots. Because Aryans on their way to east had big influance on the semi-civilized tribes in the area which is Iran now. Or it may have semitic roots. But lets live this topic to scientists. I know that the first song ever written down was of summerian origin millenias ago.
I personally like mugham but a real ethnic mugham not a turkish crap. Kavali singers are professional mugham singers. They do not even live long they are dying young because they are getting throat cancer because of their professional activities. Andalusian (in Spain) ethnic songs are mugham too. Sayat Nova was singing mugham too. There are big similiarities between mugham and musical instruments. I think mugham is imitation of the musical instrument (duduk, violin etc)
Violin originated from middle east, I think from Iran. The original Violin had more than 10 strings. And it could play musical notes that are not known in modern western musical notes . Supposedly those hidden notes that are not available in western musical instruments are the ones which are affecting or touching human soul (Some call those particles of music, god's voice). Same is with mugham too. Thats why many well known western musicians especially Jazz musicians are traveling to middle east or india to experience that music or songs. Even rock bands include middle eastern mughamic elements in their solo guitar part. By the way classic Jazz is like mugham too it starts together then every party (instrument) plays it's part separately then they play together again and then it finishes. So my point is that mugham imitates the instrument which is able really to touch the human soul.
Some of the mughams do not even have lyrics or just few words some do have beautifull lyrics too like Sayat Nova's.
MosJan was rigth mentioning that armenian church uses mugham too in it's "Sharakanner".
Even in the latest western movies the touchy parts are accompanied with armenian duduk or some type of mugham.
As far as it to rabiz goes. It is some type of mutation of mugham and modern music. Typical turksih style. Everything is stolen from here and there nothing is original. And the lyrics is BS.
#2
Posted 08 November 2006 - 05:12 PM
Mugham / Murram
http://hyeforum.com/...t...ost&p=13304
#4
Posted 08 November 2006 - 07:05 PM
btw, i've made a few dozen posts in this forum about rabiz, and all of them are different, most of them contradicting each other... so...
#7
Posted 08 November 2006 - 07:23 PM
#8
Posted 08 November 2006 - 07:27 PM
#11
Posted 08 November 2006 - 09:13 PM
Mugham + Sound + The way music is played .....
#12
Posted 08 November 2006 - 09:18 PM
#13
Posted 08 November 2006 - 09:21 PM
what would you say this song is ??
#14
Posted 08 November 2006 - 09:46 PM
gaghapar chunem chem el uzum unenam
Edited by Error 404, 08 November 2006 - 09:48 PM.
#15
Posted 08 November 2006 - 09:55 PM
the title: armenchik-tatulik-gandulik
has a good message in it. Almost real.
#17
Posted 08 November 2006 - 10:10 PM
#18
Posted 09 November 2006 - 12:13 AM

yes el gnam Mer Flor Morqin Yev Kristikin lsem mi qich
I love that song. Flora is wonderful. Her DleYaman...Its the best there is
Ed, BTW the Isabela does a wonderful rendition of Dle Yaman in Zvartnots in that DVD that you just ordered. Its very very good
#19
Posted 09 November 2006 - 12:20 AM
I wish should would perform more, she remains to be one of the best prisenter of Armenian music.
very few now amongst our youngsters take such artists as role models
#20
Posted 09 November 2006 - 12:35 AM
here is a very bad recording but her voice is still dominating in it
http://www.armenians...f7a6mm48qpcv894
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