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#1 Boghos

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Posted 16 May 2002 - 05:02 AM

I created this topic in order to generate a discussion of the experiences that people have had in Armenia.

As to my own case, I was last in Armenia in 2000. Visiting Yerevan, Jermug, Goris, Tatev and a number of places in Karabagh.

I was not surprised by what I found. The Yerevan I had seen in the early 80s, was no longer there. At that time it was unusual to find people in the streets, just hanging around. By now this is very common. Streets were in much better shape. But the city had very little life to speak of, with very few exceptions. Private homes were where socializing really took place.

Now Yerevan offers much more but naturally it cannot be compared to any Western city of the same size. It is interesting to note that the hotel infrastructure has improved markedly in the last 5 years or so. I guess the old Hotel Armenia is the last one in line for renovation, but even without it Yerevan offers plenty of decent accomodation if at relatively indecent prices even by Western standards.

Restaurants have also sprung up all over the place. Khorovadz street as Proshian is sometimes referred to has now a few really pleasant, carefully done places. And there are a few others as well.

Visiting YSU and the Chess Palace, two of my favourite places in the 80s is a source of sadness for the deplorable material condition. But that does not mean that one cannot engage in very interesting discussions wity well informed and wellrounded educated students. Or of course play chess, which you can also do in the streets, people will invite you to play if you keep watching them (or they may look funny at you, but that is much less likely).

The airport, especially the arrival lounge is in great need of renovation. It will greatly improve, I am sure after an Armenian-Argentine gradually takes over the running of Zvartnotz.

I could go on and on, but what I really like to say is that I like being in Armenia because of the people. Yes as most of of us they are also a bit "hardheaded" and stubborn, but I really like being there and talking, drinking, eating , travelling with the people. I find myself lucky.

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Posted 20 May 2002 - 05:24 AM

Oh how sweet.....
thank you for such kind words about Armenia:)

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Posted 20 May 2002 - 03:44 PM

I was in Yerevan for 3 months in the winter 2001-2002.
people had changed a lot from the sovjetdays.
what can u say, the educated people with brains, aren't that many left of them in Armenia today!
Though most of the people are kind hearted they are have gotten very tough and hedamnats.

[ May 20, 2002, 04:47 PM: Message edited by: koko ]

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Posted 21 May 2002 - 06:13 AM

i have never visited armenia but i would love to sometime in my life.i was born in the usa but my love 4 my country is stronger than it is 4 the usa

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Posted 20 June 2002 - 02:37 AM

Heyya all,

I want to visit Armenia during September this year, any ideas what to see? (Sure, I am aware enough of Etzchmiadzin, Ambered etc....) Do you have any ideas of highlights off the beaten track and in Yerevan? Are there any church events or other popular festivals in Armenia at this time? THX.

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[ June 20, 2002, 03:51 AM: Message edited by: Traveller ]

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Posted 20 June 2002 - 06:07 AM

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Originally posted by Traveller:
Heyya all,

I want to visit Armenia during September this year, any ideas what to see? (Sure, I am aware enough of Etzchmiadzin, Ambered etc....) Do you have any ideas of highlights off the beaten track and in Yerevan? Are there any church events or other popular festivals in Armenia at this time? THX.

Trav

Hi Trav,
Good to see you again.
I meant to say this some time ago.
Greetings from one Pataki-lander to another. Our very popluar Governor(NY) is George Pataki. You may remeber that a few years ago he went on a pilgrimage to Hungary, the land of his ancestors.
As to what to see in Armenia, you indicate your interest in Ejmiatsin and other chuches. By all means, do see them, but if you are a nature freak as well check the sites below. To mention a few; Jermuk, Goris, the natural cave dwellings, Satani Kamurj (Satanayi Kamurj, Satan's Bridge), the Cascades of Jermuk, the natural spas and the casinos that, sad to say, are idle at the time. When you view the picture of the fountains of Jermuk remember that in that hall there are three natural springs with waters as hot as 70 degrees C down to a cool 20 degrees.
See for yourself.

Here is a video of sound and sights of the Devil's Bridge by our own MosJan
http://www.mksduduks...SatanayiKamurj/

And a complete tour courtesy of Raffi K, a one time correspondent of mine (still is) who decided to pack up and repatriate.
Click on the map to choose, be they churches or else.

Enjoy

http://www.cilicia.c...5_clickmap.html

http://www.cilicia.c...ayi-kamurj.html

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Posted 20 June 2002 - 06:33 AM

Hi Arpa,

thank you very much for the helpful links, I'll check them out. Actually, the planned visit is part of a long-term project of mine. I have a soft spot for Armenian culture and history - perhaps as we share a lot similarities in our history - and after covering ancient Armenia (Ani, Akhdamar, Van...), it's time to go to Armenia proper.
If u care to see, here are my images from my last trip: http://mappa.prim.hu/Pataky - Armenia gallery. I hope to collect enough images to make up a nice black-and-white photo book. (Photographically seen, Armenia seems to be THE country to go to for marvellaous BandW shots.)

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There's an old university town in Hungary called "Sárospatak" or "Patak", and Pataki means "the guy who came from Patak". On the other hand, "patak" also means "fragile little girl" in Hindi, something that caused lots of funny moments on my trip to India as I'm a fat, big and ugly male. :-)

Regards,

Trav

[ June 20, 2002, 07:38 AM: Message edited by: Traveller ]

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Posted 20 June 2002 - 02:45 PM

Hi Traveller,
I used to live in Hungary for a long time.
I stayed in Balatonfured, around Lake Balaton.
It was a very nice place, full of tourists.
I also love Budapest, i think it's a very beautiful country.
I think I missed Hungarian food more than Hungary itself, since your food is very delicious and I like to eat a lot. I can't stop thinking about.
I also had many hungarian friends there.
By the way, I used to speak Hungarian, or I should I say Modiour really good, but I forgot it unfortunatelly.
My father had many hungarian friend who visited Armenia few times, and they said that they liked the country a lot, so I hope you like it too. I'm planning to visit Hungary again in the future.

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Posted 20 June 2002 - 02:47 PM

Where i wrote " I can't stop thinking about your" I mean to say i can't stop thinking about Langosh and what's the name of that one dish with chicken and i think cheese on teh top???? I loved it.

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Posted 21 June 2002 - 02:30 AM

Perhaps you refer to "paprikás csirke" which is chicken with gnocchi-like garnish ("galuska"), served with spicy sour cream? Balatonfured is nice indeed, it's the only inhabitable town at the lake during summer... oh yes, and lángos, that's fine, too :-) don't mention it to your trainer or doctor, though.

I heard that Armenia has a special kind of vodka, mulberry vodka? Is that true? In "good old" Communist times, Armenian cognac was relatively easy to get but I haven't seen any stuff for years. Well, I hope to get my share when visiting there.




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