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#41 aghzar

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Posted 21 June 2007 - 10:56 AM

kumkap, what instrument(s) do you play? also could you enlighten me if possible on the relationship between the makams and the armenian "oot-tzain" (the church modes) because i think they are different and that actually armenian church music at least, does not use "quarter tones" though it uses modes similar to the makams including augmented modes similar to hijaz. certainly armenian church music as sung in the united states (yegmalian or gomidas version) does not have quarter tones. we sing it off of regular western notation, although it's not in a normal western "key", whether major or minor.

this has gotten far off topic, but let me say that as for bambir and gor, well, if you dont consider richard hagopian to be armenian music (that is except for his many songs which are blatantly turkish, and sung in the turkish language - telegrafin telleri, konyali, siseler, etc.), if you dont consider his armenian language songs to be armenian, then bambir and gor are DEFINETLY not armenian music. (theyre western music played by armenian guys singing in the armenian language, with a slight armenian twist.) richard plays, like all armenian american kef musicians, both western armenian folk songs, western armenian folk dances, turkish belly dance songs, armenian "kef" songs (ie turkish style songs sung in armenian/turkish songs translated into armenian), bolsetsi armenian songs, and some eastern armenian songs. richard also plays ottoman classical music, due to his training in that field, though many of the ottoman classical pieces are written by armenians, and his teachers were armenian too (kanuni garbis and udi hrant).

as for taksim, those are not songs, they are improvisations. no two taksims are alike, so its not like richard is "preserving turkish songs" named "hicaz taksim and huseyni taksim"...those aren't songs, you just make them up.

personally i think gor is allright as far as he goes, although i'm not looking to him as some kind of "nor serount" musical savior...bambir sings with a weird ass accent that sounds like theyre copying the vocals of american hard rock groups. and gor is a copy of american folk style, even if he has an armenian twist. i showed his music to some girls from armenia and they were like "this is completely bluegrass" (they meant american folk, bluegrass is actually different, but i knew what they meant).



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Posted 04 April 2012 - 02:03 PM



!!! ;)

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 05:28 PM



This is for Arpa:)

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 03:18 PM



Armenian Scotch! :)

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 02:01 PM






:)

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 10:16 AM

30 years old Armenian Scotch? I need one :D
Legally they can't use the "Scotch" on the bottle, but than again I'm asking too much! :)

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 04:18 PM



Superb!!!
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Posted 01 June 2013 - 07:10 AM

Thanks Gamavor!!!!!!!!!
Great, unique and beautiful. :)

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 03:52 PM

nice  song  but  Jrahars ?? en el Jrahars Sirelis ?? inchvor mi ban sxal e :) bats yes el chgitem inch



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NICE!

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