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Posted 28 December 2013 - 11:43 AM

Some theology from Martin Luther--


"A smart Turk makes a better ruler than a dumb Christian" Martin Luther


The linked article is written by Thomas King, it’s the result of research that Thomas King made


In reference to Luther’s quote, actually the New Testament says the equivalent of “a dump Christian is better than a smart Turk in the sight of God” verses supporting it:


“The wisdom of this world is foolishness to God” 1 Cor 3:19


1 Corinthian 1:27 “but God chose the foolish things of the world that he might put to shame those who are wise. God chose the weak things of the world, that he might put to shame the things that are strong”


1 Cor. 1:25 “Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men”


1 Cor. 1:21 “For seeing that in the wisdom of God, the world through its wisdom didn't know God, it was God's good pleasure through the foolishness of the preaching to save those who believe”


However on the contrary, in the sight of Satanism or Satanic philosophy, “a smart person is better than a dumb person” and this is a proving point that Martin Luther was not a real Christian, a real servant of Jesus, adhering to the Scripture, rather he was flaunting his own opinions & ideas and not taking his directions from God.


Thomas King writes in his article: “Martin Luther, urged his followers to look at the Turks in the best manner and even went so far as to say that some of his German contemporaries (read traitors), “actually want the Turk to come and rule, because they think that our German people are wild and uncivilized – indeed that they are half-devil and half-man” (Found in The Ottoman Empire and early modern Europe, by Daniel Goffman, Cambridge University Press, 2002, p110).” This self-fulfilled prophecy will come true when Turks immigrants in Germany take upon them the role of the rulership over Germany and Germans in some 100 year in 2114.


“What is most interesting about the whole matter is that Suleiman the Magnificent, the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire during Luther’s time, that he sent a letter to Luther’s followers in Flanders, Holland which stated that he felt akin to them since: ‘they did not worship idols, believed in one God and fought against the Pope and Emperor’ (Found in The Ottoman state and its place in world history by Kemal H. Karpat p.53).”


“After the demise of Suleiman the Magnificent, Murad III, his successor wrote a letter to forge alliance with the Lutherans in both Flanders and Spain” (this letter is given in linked article of Thomas King).

This letter is a typical Turkish deception ploy using flatteries to gain allies, as they needed allies in Europe in order to conquer Europe, so we see….

“It was also no accident that in the Battle of Lepanto in 1571 that amongst the Ottoman forces were to be found Lutheran and Calvinist allies from Holland and England. Treachery continues and in the Battle of Vienna in 1681, the leader of the Protestants in Hungary, Imre Thokoly in conjunction with the Ottoman forces was attacking Vienna” writes Thomas King. If the Turks had won then Europe would had become Muslim and the followers of Martin Luther would had to choose between converting to Islam or be slaughtered.


Because the Turks killed and slaughtered all the Christians, including the followers of Martin Luther, in Turkey in 1915 (along with the Orthodox, Catholics and Evangelicals) unless they converted to Islam. They would not have hesitated to do the same to the Lutherans and Calvinists if they won over Europe, a victory the Turks hoped to materialize with the help of the followers of Luther and Calvin.


Muslims Kill Christians, Bottle Their Blood, and Sell It For $100,000 A Piece To Saudis

By Ted on December 26, 2013

By Theodore Shoebat

A nun in Germany has recently done a presentation in a conference of an independent investigation she conducted of the treatment of Christians in Syria under the hands of Muslim fundamentalists.

Also there are reports in Nigeria, Africa, that Muslims are killing the Christians and drinking their blood. This drinking of blood was practiced in the Middle East even before the coming of Islam; even Jews were killing the non-Jews sometimes and drinking their blood. This is why when Jesus came He said "drink my blood and eat by body" Jesus wholly transmuted and transformed the cannibalistic concept in the Middle East by indicating that "drinking blood and eating human flesh" means: to learn and study His Words and Teachings, to be one with Him, and not actually engage in cannibalism as was the practice in the Middle East by Jews and by non-Jews.


When Jesus was tortured and then crucified some looked for getting hold on few drops of His blood to drink it or mix it with their matzo floor...even though this is not mentioned in the gospels for modesty's sake. Christians are the only people now who do not drink or make use of the blood to wash their bodies or hands with…because they know Jesus meant to study, learn and do His Word, and when they do that they practice the communion ritual, they do the communion ritual "of drinking the wine and eating the bread" as a confirmation to be a follower of Jesus, keeping in learning His Word in the Bible and to remember Jesus Christ who died for them by shedding His blood as a price for their salvation from the realm of Satan and into the Kingdom of God ; there is no more need for Christians to kill a non-Christian to drink his blood and eat the flesh; as fanatic religious Muslims and Jews do now by drinking the blood and eating the flesh of Christians they kill. This is why religion is a very bad thing and the religious spirit, in most cases, is not from God.


Drinking gallons of blood and eating tons of human flesh will not change a man’s heart an iota or bring upon him the favor of God; since as Jesus said in Mark 7:18-23 “whatever goes into the man from outside cannot defile him, because it does not go into his heart, but into his stomach, and is eliminated?...That which proceeds out of the man, that is what defiles the man. For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed the evil thoughts, fornications, thefts, murders, adulteries, deeds of coveting and wickedness, as well as deceit, sensuality, envy, slander, pride and errors.  All these evil things proceed from within and defile the man.”


Only Jesus the Messiah, the only Savior of mankind, is able to change the heart of man by His touch and His Word and make him worthy for God; drinking or washing with human blood and eating human flesh will not accomplish it, rather will make matters worse as God strictly forbids drinking human blood or eating dried blood mixed with floor to make blood-flavored cookies.

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Posted 28 December 2013 - 07:02 PM

Sure but where are you going to find a smart Turk?

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Posted 29 December 2013 - 08:01 AM

Nun's name is Hatune Dogan (turkish name).

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Posted 29 December 2013 - 09:44 AM

It seems like she is an Assyrian, Syriac, Aramaic (from Mardin?)who had fled furkey in 1985 because of persecution of Christians.
Hence her furkish sounding name.
Read the English video transcript below

0:00 I went to the Middle East in early October,
0:04 on purpose, to study the situation on the ground,
0:08 for I am a person who likes to be
0:12 a witness herself and sees things
0:16 rather than having heard of it.
0:20 I am a refugee myself. In 1985, after serious death threats,
0:24 I fled Southeast Turkey.
0:28 We are grateful we could save our lives and our faith,
0:32 and I think there are many in the Orient who dont have this chance.
0:36 When we started school, a Christian could not become an official
0:40 in Turkey; automatically our teachers were Muslims.
0:44 We were forced to attend Islamic lessons every Friday,
0:48 even though all of us were Christians.

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