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[Harut]

Hymn of Kazakhstan from the movie



please watch it and tell me if that's Ilham Aliyev at the very end, as their leader????

hmm... i just came here to make that comment... about aliyev's picture... so, yes, it is...

another interesting moment from the movie... jermuk in the frige...

[SanVal]

I just saw it today. My favorite part was when he went to the Pentecostal church. That's exactly how they recruit people.

[Harut]

i think the movie is extra funny if you are armenian and understand all the funny nonesense that the guy says in armenian...

[dianjan]

i think the movie is extra funny if you are armenian and understand all the funny nonesense that the guy says in armenian...

I totally agree... The movie was funny, but at one point sick...But the Armenian rants made it even funnier for me.

[Zartonk]

Saw the film after waiting 2 years. All that I thought it would be. Anyone who thinks it was cheap or scatological missed something.

I give it 2 "high fives"!

[skhara]

There is something wrong to throw away your hard earned cash on this garbage. It gets old pretty quick.

[Bakersfieldian]

I totally agree... The movie was funny, but at one point sick...But the Armenian rants made it even funnier for me.

Especially that crap he was yelling when he was running away naked....



It was almost surreal

[Anileve]

Eve, have you heard of Louis Theroux's Weird Weekends? He too goes off to remote English speaking places (as himself) to expose the type of people who live outside of the mainstream. The idea behind it is: "Are we, Westerners, really as civilized as we like to believe we are?"

In the case of Borat and Ali G (and Bruno the Austrian), the joke started in England, and only after it became a hit was it moved to America. For Ali G, it was to expose the idiocy of the smartest people in England and America (professors, government officials, etc.) For Borat, it's to expose the other side of England and America; the quite shocking side we never get to see. In England, Borat started off going to upper class events, like horse-racing, fox-hunting, and tea time, just to expose these classes for what they really are. In America, he spent most of his time with your average Joe; the average Joe most of us never get to see. The main question with Borat, like Theroux, is: "What is civilization? And are we really as civilized as we believe we are?"

I do agree that sometimes he goes overboard (I felt the same with Ali G at times), but when he nails it, he nails it well.

I haven't seen the movie yet, but there are plenty of earlier clips on YouTube.

"Are we, Westerners, really as civilized as we like to believe we are?"

Absolutely, I did mention in my review that this is what I picked up from his delicate "lesson learned" points, Kazakhistan - one backwards world vs. US - another. But it wasn't done in a deliciously subtle yet poignant manner, it was done through extreme vulgarity as if he is counting on the viewer to be rather stupid that he needs to chew and spit it out. I don't need to see feces in a plastic bag at a dinner table to understand that some people are overly conservative. I loved Politically Correct and I did wish they would get raunchy but not derriere abusive raunchy.

And it's a little trite don't you think to always target the upper classes, it's been done so much over the years, politically, artistically and socially. How about criticizing those who continuously criticize the bourgeoisie, the leftist, the democrats, the union supporters, those who believe they must suffer in order to be creative. There are so many territories to explore, so many edgy, raunchy and delicious subjects that making your first motion picture about Muslims, evil and stupid Americans, ghettos and anti-Semites is very clichéd at this time.

As I've mentioned before it's the fact that it's popular to find this movie funny, because it means that you are liberal and open minded and not afraid to laugh or fart. And everyone jumps on the wagon, people love to think that they are cool and have a great sense of humor but very few actually get there. It's one thing if this was along the lines of "Airplane" or "naked gun" but his film is actually marketed as a political and offensive comedy. I found nothing offensive except for the homosexual scene, but only because my eyes just couldn't take it anymore. Otherwise it's pretty idiotic and I hate the fact that it's cool to say that this movie is so cool and you are so cool that you find it so cool so let's get together and be cool and just smell each others stinky shoes, because it's so raunchy and cool.

[nairi]

Absolutely, I did mention in my review that this is what I picked up from his delicate "lesson learned" points, Kazakhistan - one backwards world vs. US - another.

Hmm. Wouldn't say one backward world versus another, but one backward world (US) that thinks every other world is backward (e.g. Kazakhstan). It's playing with the stereotypes.

I absolutely do not want to defend the film. I haven't even seen it and I trust your word if you say that it's over the top much of the time. I'm just 'analyzing' my understanding of "Borat" from a slightly different perspective.

"Borat," btw, is not Sacha Baron Cohen's first film. He made another film with Ali G a few years ago.

[Harut]

you people analyze it too much... it's just another 1.5hrs laughter... and you try to find a meaning or purpose to it... why?

[karapet]

you people analyze it too much... it's just another 1.5hrs laughter... and you try to find a meaning or purpose to it... why?

Harut jan votovhetev amen inch ira nshanakutyunn uni ...kam el mardik xosum eli,,

[Sip]

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"votovhetev"? ahahahaah

Edit: For a second, I thought I was sure the post was by Mosjan! Karapet, thanks for making my day and welcome to the forum by the way (if I haven't said it before)!

Edited by Sip, 09 November 2006 - 03:21 PM.

[kakachik77]

I enjoyed the movie, it was not a masterpiece but was all I expected.

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yete shat xndalu e aseq zonkachis tanem, arhen life insurance uni, srtitsel lav chi

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Harut jan votovhetev amen inch ira nshanakutyunn uni ...kam el mardik xosum eli,,

Karapet

hamadsayn em qo het. En mardik ov vor humoric baci urish ban chtesan ed filmi mej yerani iranc. Ed mardkanc hamar shat heshta aprel es kyanqum.

[Harut]

Harut jan votovhetev amen inch ira nshanakutyunn uni ...kam el mardik xosum eli,,

vorosh baneri imast@ parzapes dram ashxateln e, mardkants zvarjatsnelov... im kartsiqov ays film@ dranits batsi urish imast chuner...
there was no news on what kind of crawd gathers at rodeoes in the south, or how drunk college kids act, or that you would get arrested if you attack a celebrity in public (even though that scene with pamel anderson was set up), or that jews can show hispitality, etc...

[karapet]

vorosh baneri imast@ parzapes dram ashxateln e, mardkants zvarjatsnelov... im kartsiqov ays film@ dranits batsi urish imast chuner...
there was no news on what kind of crawd gathers at rodeoes in the south, or how drunk college kids act, or that you would get arrested if you attack a celebrity in public (even though that scene with pamel anderson was set up), or that jews can show hispitality, etc...

ete du ches havanel , ba inchi es gnazel pox zaxsel u nayel kinon, vorovhetev bolor@ xosum ein ayd kinonkari masin che??? ayo, ,,,ba Harut jan ete es forumum mardik chxosan amen inchiz, ba inchi hamar e ays forum@...ayo mek mek el kinonkarner@ dram ashxatelu hamar en. ba dranz uzazn el da e,,, dram ashxatel@,,spasek tesnem te TYPO chunem, vor Sip@ shat shzizaxi,,chnayaz zizaxel@ lav ogtakar e,,,


Urax em vor zizaxazrezi Sip jan kez..,,gone mek@ urax e....

Edited by karapet, 09 November 2006 - 10:38 PM.

[SanVal]

Ken Davitian, the Armenian actor who played Borat's sidekick, owns a restaurant in Sherman Oaks called "The Dip." So if you want his lovely physique, you know where to go.

http://v6.dailynews....2749564,00.html

[Sip]

Guess who's baaaaaa-ack! ... and wanting some of the mooooooooney lol ... Can you say Maaaaaaaaaaaa-hir?!!!

Will the real Borat please stand up?

Turkish man says he's the real Borat

[MosJan]

ANKARA, Turkey - A Turkish Internet celebrity is so convinced he was the inspiration for
Sacha Baron Cohen's "Borat" character, he's traveling to London seeking an apology and a way to get paid from the film's surprise success.
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Mahir Cagri 44, became a cyber celebrity after posting a personal Web site in 1999, featuring unintentionally amusing photos of himself playing pingpong or the accordion and sunbathing in a skimpy bathing suit. Fans were captivated by his broken English and hilarious invitation to women: "Who is want to come TURKEY I can invitate ... She can stay my home."

"The world knows he is copying Mahir," Cagri told The Associated Press in a telephone interview from his hometown of Izmir on Monday, minutes before he was to board a plane for Istanbul to appear on a talk show.

"I am not saying this — the world is. I have received so many e-mails from people in the United States who tell me he is imitating me," he said.

Cagri, a freelance journalist, was scheduled to fly to London on Tuesday for meetings with his manager and lawyer there to discuss his options and hold interviews with British newspapers. He hopes to receive an "acknowledgment or an apology" from Baron Cohen.

"The bombshell is going to fall," he said of his London trip. "(Cohen) is making money by using me."

The title character in the movie "Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan" was first developed for "Da Ali G Show" on HBO. The 20th Century Fox movie took in $26.5 million in the U.S. its opening weekend, more than any other film.

On the commentary track to the DVD of "Da Ali G Show," Baron Cohen says Borat was influenced by someone he met in southern Russia.

"I can't remember his name — he was a doctor" Baron Cohen said. "The moment I met him, I was totally crying. He was a hysterically funny guy, albeit totally unintentionally."

The character Borat has caused outrage among Kazakhs over the way their nation is being jokingly portrayed.

Cagri set up his Web site in the hope of making foreign friends and welcoming guests from abroad to his home. The Turk quickly became a celebrity, much to his surprise. Relishing his fame, Cagri has traveled to Europe and the United States to meet fans on sponsored trips.