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#1 Yervant1

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 09:53 AM

Egypt's Largest Independent Daily Newspaper Recognizes Turkey's
Genocide Against Armenians

- AUGUST 17, 2013

By Appo K. Jabarian
Executive Publisher / Managing Editor
USA Armenian Life Magazine

August 17, 2013

Turkey's posturing in the Muslim world and especially Middle East
suffered yet one more serious political blow last week when Mr. Essam
Kamel, Editor-in-Chief of `Veto' Egypt's largest independent daily
newspaper wrote a scathing editorial condemning Ottoman Turkey's
genocidal dark past.

Mr. Kamel went on to criticize Turkey's continued denial of the
genocide against Armenians; and for having committed countless other
atrocities and injustices against former subject peoples of the
Ottoman Empire.

In my capacity as Managing Editor of USA Armenian Life Magazine, I
wrote Mr. Kamel an email in both Arabic and English languages thanking
him and saying: `Please accept my heartfelt gratitude for writing such
a powerful article and for showing courage and integrity in addressing
the historic facts of the Armenian Genocide perpetrated by Ottoman
Turkey.'

No later than couple hours he responded: `Greetings, genuine
appreciations and then some. The position we adopt is consistent with
the most basic principles of humanity. Whatever the Ottoman Empire did
in Egypt is specifically in line with its mistreatment of the peaceful
Armenian people. And what they did against your ancestors is beyond
description and your struggle for international recognition is
honorable and we share your struggle with all the means available to
us. It's our honor to do so. Please accept my sincere greetings.'

In his regular column titled `Landmines - Detonated by Essam Kamel,' the
Editor-in-Chief of `Veto' Egyptian newspaper wrote: `The Egyptian
government has the right to hesitate in acknowledging the massacres of
Armenians by the Turkish forces due to the high incitement of Asitana
(today's Ankara) as this acknowledgement will have bad repercussions
on the Egyptian-Turkish relations. This Egyptian hesitation will not
stop me, the signer below  -  to acknowledge the genocidal collective
massacres suffered by the Armenian people throughout their history
during the era of Ottoman Empire, which (successor Turkey) here comes
again (to Egypt) with the support of the fascist brothers (of Muslim
Brotherhood).'

Quoting famous Egyptian historian Dr. Mohammad Refaat Al Imam, Mr.
Kamel underlined: `As Dr. Refaat said, the Armenians are the people
whom the Ottoman Empire called `Millet Sadiqa' (`The honest
community') for their loyalty and fidelity to the country and the
Sultan. But despite all this, they were the most persecuted group of
people in the world that was subjected to genocide throughout all
their history because of their struggle for their rights. Like the
Egyptian saying goes, `Nihayat khedmatel-ghaz alka)' (which means to
say `not just one episode of tragedy but an endless chain of
persecutions were befallen on Armenians' - so Armenians weren't just
stricken once but they got slaughtered, looted and killed in the
streets like nobody else in the history of the Ottoman Empire. There
was a whole Army called `Firak Al Khayala Al-Hamidia' (`Hamidian Horse
Rider Units') named after the Sultan Abdel Hamid who executed not just
hundreds but actually thousands in the streets and the genocidal
massacres did not occur away from the view of the world, but it was
witnessed and known by everybody.'

He added: `Some of the chapters of the Armenian tragedy that was
recounted in the history books and was known afterwards, was a result
of the famous rebellion in Sassoon in 1894 when the massacres against
the defenseless people started October 13 of the same year and lasted
until November 30 of the following year where more than 100 thousand
people died and more than half a million Armenians were rendered
homeless. The city of Raha alone suffered gruesome massacres on 28 and
29 of December, 1895 where 3000 Armenians were burned and died in the
streets. Around 117 years ago, specifically on 26 August, 1896, and
after being fed up and frustrated with the situation, a group of
Armenian youth who belonged to the Tashnaq party took over the Ottoman
Bank in Asitana (Constantinople - modern day Istanbul) and took
hostages. They offered to release the hostages if the Ottoman Empire
would promise to ameliorate life for Armenians and would recognize
their rights. When the Ottoman Empire failed to control the situation,
Russia helped solving it by offering the combatants to leave the
country in a French ship and guaranteed their safety on condition that
the Ottoman Empire improves the life of Armenians. As the Armenian
youth were getting onto the ship, the Sultan and Turkish units were
committing massacres against Armenians in the streets to the extent
that they killed the entire Armenian population of (`Kassem quarters')
`Hay Kassem Basha' and the (`Jewish Quarters') `Hay al Yahoudi'.'

He further wrote: `These are some of the aspects of Turkish Genocide
against Armenians, as the Turks were never civilized. They never
maintained a heritage of illumination. They didn't follow the
(Islamic) religious tenets of love and tolerance, but they were tools
for sabotage, destruction and killings. They were always known for
that and that's what we witnessed in our country (Egypt). When they
were occupying our country, they plundered our wealth, they cursed our
country and spread hatred and ignorance among our people for the whole
period of what they called the Ottoman Caliphate (Succession) (Al
Khilafa Al-Othmania).'

Mr. Kamel concluded lambasting Turkey: `That's what the (Turkish)
state is attempting  -  helping and supporting Mohammad Morsi to come
back to power and once again to rule us and take over our country and
plunder our wealth in the name of religion just like they did before.
Religion is never about what they are doing.'

Shedding light on Turkey's black pages of massive and systematic
Armenian annihilation, he noted: `Whoever follows the facts on
Armenian massacres is very aware of the humanitarian tragedy that
surrounded a nation that until today is still insisting on its
identity. And whoever reads the dark history of the Turks and their
Empire will know very well why Erdogan is supporting the terrorist
brotherhoods. And whoever reads what the Armenians went through will
definitely acknowledge the collective genocide that Turkey perpetrated
against a defenseless people.'

Soon after embattled President Morsi's fall from power Turkish Prime
Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan made no secret of being wary of
Muslim-Brotherhood-backed Mohammed Morsii's fall and of Egypt's
non-Islamist opposition gaining regional momentum, much like the Arab
uprisings. Mr. Erdogan's radical Islamist meddling in Egypt's internal
affairs has antagonized large segments of the Egyptian society all the
way from the streets to the highest echelons of the most populous Arab
state.

It seems that Mr. Kamel's commentary acknowledging the Armenian
Genocide comes at a time when public discussions in Egypt have been
multiplying and popular consensus has been fast building in support of
official recognition of Armenian Genocide.

Obviously it's not a matter of `if.'It's a matter of `when' Egypt will
set a morally healthy example in Asia and Africa ushering in a new era
free of imperial neo-ottoman Turkish presence in Egypt and the region.

Egypt also stands to regain her leadership role in the Arab world by
keeping Erdogan's fascist Islamist-backing Turkey at bay, setting the
stage for Pan-Arab nationalism's victory over Turkish-backed misguided
Pan-Islamism.

http://www.armenianl...inst-armenians/

 



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Posted 19 August 2013 - 09:57 AM

Al-Bawabah News, Egypt
Aug 17 2013

A century of violence: From the Turkish Massacres of Armenians to the
Taksim Demonstrations

By Karam Saeed
Translated exclusively for Groong Armenian News Network by K.M. Peltekian


In an unprecedented move, Cairo has announced the signing of the
Convention which condemns the Armenian genocide committed by the
Turks (the Ottoman Empire) on April 24, 1915. This action from
official Cairo comes in accordance with its policy first to uphold
human rights, and second in response to the Turkish interference in
and continuous attempt to internationalize Egyptian affairs.

The systematic violence and gruesome massacres committed by the
Ottoman Empire against the Armenians during and after World War I was
not the first; it was preceded by a long series of oppressive
practices against the people of the Vilayets of the Ottoman Empire at
the time.

Concerning modern Turkey, it has not yet cleansed itself from the
rotten repression that still has a hold on the official organs and
politicians in that country; the excessive force used to break up a
peaceful demonstration in Taksim Square in Istanbul only reveals not
only the decline in the popularity of the ruling Justice & Development
Party but also the corruption which the Party tries to conceal
sometimes by interfering in the affairs of neighboring countries, and
other times, by promoting alleged agreements in internal chronic
disputes, such as the Kurdish issue.

However, the widely recognized holocaust of the Armenians is
considered to be the first crime of genocide in modern history - and
the second largest cause of massacres after the Jewish Holocaust -
which has exterminated nearly one & a half million people, in addition
to the forced deportation of a number of other residents.

Interestingly, the plan to exterminate the Armenians was prepared in
advance, especially after the then Ottoman Empire signed a secret
treaty with Germany, which devised to change the eastern border of the
Empire to include a corridor to the ethnic Muslims in Russia and this
would essentially require the uprooting of the Armenians from that
region.

To justify the Turkish plans, the Ottoman Empire claimed that Russia
was inciting the Russian-Armenians living near the Russian-Ottoman
border, and supplying them with  money and weapons, as well as
training them and helping them to form armed groups such as the
Henchak, Tashnak and others. In addition, Turkey also spread rumors
that the British also played a role in supporting these organizations
because the British wanted to break up the Ottoman Empire that stood
equally strong during the First World War.

The horrors of the Armenian massacres still cause nightmares to
Turkey, which so far has refused to recognize the massacres, but
instead denies these massacres committed by its ancestors; however,
the United Nations, the European organizations, and those concerned
with human rights have succeeded in restoring the momentum of the
Armenian question, as twenty countries have officially recognized
these massacres as Genocide..

Hence comes the Egyptian move to recognize the massacres of the
Armenians, to do justice to this human rights issue that international
powers have been trading off with Ankara, while others are turning a
deaf ear and ignoring human values that are based on humankind's right
to live with respect.

Read the original in Arabic at http://www.albawabhn...com/news/113246

 



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Posted 19 August 2013 - 09:57 AM

Al-Bawabah News, Egypt
Aug 17 2013

Adly Mansour: Egypt Signs Tomorrow the International `Document' on the
Armenian Massacres

by Nada Hifzi

Translated exclusively for Groong Armenian News Network by K.M. Peltekian



The official page of the interim President of the Republic [of Egypt]
Adli Mansour has announced on his social networking site "Twitter"
that the permanent Representative of Egypt to the United Nations will
sign the internationa `document' recognizing the massacres of the
Armenians perpetrated by the Turkish army.

The President's Tweet states: Our permanent representative to the UN will
sign tomorrow the international `document' recognizing the Armenian
massacres committed by the Turkish Army that killed over a million people.



Read the original in Arabic at  http://www.albawabhnews.com/News/113085

  



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Posted 19 August 2013 - 12:22 PM

Թուրքիայի պատասխանը Եգիպտոսին` Հայոց ցեղապանության ճանաչման հարցով

Այսօր - 18:44

 

 

Թուրքիայի փոխվարչապետ Բեքիր Բոզդաղն արձագանքել է մամուլում հայտնված այն տեղեկությանը, ըստ որի, Եգիպտոսի նոր իշխանությունները մտադիր են Հայոց ցեղասպանությունը ճանաչող փաստաթուղթ ստորագրել ՄԱԿ-ում: Նշենք, որ այդ մասին «Twiter» միկրոբլոգում գրառում էր կատարել Եգիպտոսի ժամանակավոր նախագահ Ադլի Մանսուրը:

 

Ի պատասխան Բոզդաղն ասել է, որ Եգիպտոսում իշխանությունները լեգիտիմ չեն:

 

«Այդ իսկ պատճառով մեզ համար ոչ մի օրինականություն չունի օրենքից դուրս գտնվող կառավարության ընդունելիք որոշումները»,- ըստ թուրքական «Հաբեր7»-ի' ասել է Բոզդաղը:

 

Նա նաև նշել է, որ պաշտոնական Անկարայի դիրքորոշումը մնացել է անփոփոխ. Պատմական հարցերով պետք է զբաղվեն պատմաբաններ, այլ ոչ թե պատգամավորները, քանի որ խորհրդարանների ընդունած բանաձևերը երբեք չեն կարող փոխել պատմական փաստերը:

 

Հիշեցնենք, որ ԱՄՆ 42 նահանգ և աշխարհի երկու տասնյակ պետություններ ճանաչել են Հայոց ցեղասպանությունը: ԱՄՆ նախկին նախագահ Ռոնալդ Ռեյգանը 1981-ին նախորդ դարասկզբի այդ հանցագործությունն անվանել է ցեղասպանություն:


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Posted 19 August 2013 - 12:24 PM

Թուրքիայի արձագանքը Եգիպտոսի կողմից Ցեղասպանությունը ճանաչելու "Twitter"-յան գրառմանը

Այսօր - 21:00

 

 

Եգիպտոսի նախագահին վերագրվող՝ Հայոց ցեղասպանությունը ճանաչելու մտադրության "Twitter"-յան գրառումը շարունակում է հարցականներ առաջացնել։ Շաբաթ երեկոյան Եգիպտոսի նախագահի ժամանակավոր պաշտոնակատար Ադլի Մանսուրը "Twitter" միկրոբլոգի իր պաշտոնական էջում հայտնել էր, որ այս երկիրը մտադիր է միանալ ՄԱԿ-ի փաստաթղթերին՝ ճանաչելով Հայոց ցեղասպանությունը:
Նա, մասնավորապես, գրել է."ՄԱԿ-ում մեր մշտական ներկայացուցիչը կստորագրի միջազգային փաստաթուղթը, որը ճանաչում է թուրքական բանակի իրականացրած եւ մեկ միլիոն զոհ տված Հայոց ցեղասպանությունը":
"Twitter"-ում գրեթե 80 հազար հետեւորդ ունեցող Մանսուրի այս հայտարարությունը 22 ժամում 365 անգամ վերստին տարածվել է, այն տեղադրել են մի քանի արաբալեզու թերթերի կայքեր նույնպես: Հայտարարությունը բուռն քննարկումներ է առաջացրել նաեւ "Facebook" սոցիալական ցանցում:
Հատկանշական է, որ Ադլի Մանսուր օգտատերը գրառման մեջ հատուկ շեշտել է թուրքական բանակի դերը։
Հաշված օրեր առաջ Թուրքիայի վարչապետ Էրդողանն էր, որ Եգիպտոսի բանակին մեղադրել էր Ցեղասպանություն իրականացնելու մեջ։

Առայժմ եգիպտական պաշտոնական աղբյուրները որեւէ մեկնաբանություն չեն տալիս նախագահի պաշտոնակատարին վերագրվող հայտարարության շուրջ։ Թեեւ Թուրքիայի արտգործնա[արարության խոսնակը պնդել է, թե իրենց աղբյուրներից ­ճշտմամբ՝ "Twitter"-ի նման էջ Եգիպտոսի նախագահը չունի։
Դրան հակառակ, որոշ աղբյուրներ պնդում են, որ այդ էջը ոչ պաշտոնական է, եւ ծառայում է Եգիպտոսի նոր իշխանությունների մասնավոր ուղերձները տարածելու համար։
Այդուհանդերձ, Թուրքիան չի ուշացրել արձագանքը: Փոխվարչապետ Բեքիր Բոզդաղն այս առիթով ասել է, թե Եգիպտոսի ներկա իշխանություններն ու նրանց որոշումները Թուրքիայի համար օրինական ուժ չունեն:
Հատկանշական է, որ թուրքական մամուլը խուսափում է այդ լուրը հրապարակելուց, իսկ "Հյուրիյեթի" անգլերեն կայքը լուրը տեղադրելուց կարճ ժամանակ անց հանել է։
Կահիրեի եւ Անկարայի հարաբերությունները կտրուկ սրվել էին Եգիպտոսում սկսված արյունահեղությունների ֆոնին, երբ Թուրքիայի վարչապետ Էրդողանը կոչ էր արել դադարեցնել կոտորածները: Դրան ի պատասխան, Եգիպտոսի իշխանությունները Անկարային հորդորել էին չմիջամտել իրենց ներքին գործերին:



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Posted 20 August 2013 - 10:39 AM

Is it possible that Egypt just like some countries using AG as a stick over Turkey's head and they are not sincere with acknowledgement.  

 

TURKEY PANICS OVER ISSUE OF ARMENIAN GENOCIDE RECOGNITION BY EGYPT



http://armenpress.am...n-by-egypt.html
14:51, 19 August, 2013

YEREVAN, AUGUST 19, ARMENPRESS. Turkey panics over the circulating
news saying that the new Egyptian authorities are going to  sign a
document  on the recognition of the Armenian Genocide in the UN. As
reports "Armenpress", Turkish Timeturk news website reflected  upon the
aforesaid issue and stated that the recent change of power in Egypt,
which Turkey called "the Egyptian revolution", will cause new problems
in the Armenian Genocide issue. The new Egyptian authorities have
accused Turkey for interfering their domestic issues for a number
of  times. Among other things the Turkish news website reflected
upon the note in Twitter page attributed to Adly Mansour and stated
that the issue  of the Armenian Genocide has turned into a threat
against Turkey.

A note on the recognition of the Armenian Genocide has been posted
in Twitter on behalf of interim Egyptian leader Adly Mansour. Among
other  things it was noted:

"Our representatives in the UN will sign an international document
recognizing the Armenian Genocide in Ottoman Turkey which led to the
deaths of millions."

Also, news are circulating that the twitter page does not belong to
Adly Mansour. "Armenpress" News Agency tries to verify the authenticity
of both the page and the note as well.

 

 


 



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Posted 20 August 2013 - 10:42 AM

EGYPT'S GENOCIDE RECOGNITION CALL POLITICALLY MOTIVATED - OPINION

14:45 19.08.13

The Egyptian interim president's call for recognizing the Armenian
Genocide is a politically motivated move, an Armenian orientalist
has said, commenting on Adly Mansour's recent tweet revealing the
country's intention.

Ruben Melkonyan, a deputy dean at the YSU Oriental Studies Department,
thinks the topic very often becomes a subject of bargains in
international politics.

"For us, it is naturally important for an Arab country like Egypt to
acknowledge and condemn the Armenian Genocide, given especially that
the Armenians have played an essential role in the history of Egypt.

But on the other hand, the selection of timing gives grounds for
concerns a little bit, especially in the context of these regional
political re-arrangements," he told Tert.am.

Melkonyan said a decision by Egypt to do this earlier would have been
more praiseworthy and honest. The expert noted that the proposal was
voiced against the backdrop of the deteriorating Egyptian-Turkish
relations, proving yet another time that the issue is being considered
in a political context.

"There are two countries now that have the Armenian Genocide
recognition on the agenda. One of them is Egypt, the other is Israel,
with both having problems with Turkey," he said, noting that Armenia
has seen many times before the issue pushed to the foreground once
the Turkish-Israeli relations experienced a tension.

"I can predict with confidence that the same will be in the case of
Egypt; I mean the issue will be removed from Egypt's political agenda
once the Turkey-Egypt relations normalize," he added.

Melkonyan further referred to the United States' repeated remarks
concerning the Armenian Genocide. "Once America expect concessions
from Turkey and doesn't get them, it immediately resorts to this
method which has turned into a political weapon, as a matter of fact,"
he noted.

Twenty-six world countries have so far recognized the Armenian
Genocide, with 42 of the 50 US states having officially acknowledged
and condemned the crime and 24 having declared Armenian Genocide
commemoration days.

"Over two dozen countries, which have recognized the Genocide,
have certainly done so considering universal human values. Let's
take Uruguay, for example, or the same France which, you know, had
problems with Turkey later. As for Israel and US, which are very
important countries for us, they constantly keep the issue on the
agenda as a straitjacket for Turkey. Those countries, which have
permanently speculated the issue, have not so far recognized and
will never recognized the Armenian Genocide as they use the topic
for their own interests and goals," said Melkonyan

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 10:49 AM

TOO EARLY TO SPEAK OF EGYPT RECOGNIZING ARMENIAN GENOCIDE

21:06 19.08.13

The expert in Turkic studies Ruben Safrastyan is not sure that the
Egyptian government will recognize the Armenia Genocide or submit
the issue to Parliament.

The Egyptian press is addressing the issue, but Al Arabiya has not
yet addressed it.

"Lebanon is an Arab country that recognized the Armenian Genocide. But
it is too early to speak of Egypt doing it as no specific statements
have been made," Safrastyan said.

"In this case Turkey's explicitly negative attitude may incite the
Egyptian authorities to recognize the Armenian Genocide, if it happens
at all," Safrastyan said.

A Twitter page bearing the name of President of Egypt Adly Mansour
contains a statement that Egypt is going to raise the issue of
recognizing the Armenian Genocide. Turkish foreign office released
a statement refuting the Egypt president having a Twitter page.

"We are waiting for the United States to recognize the Armenian
Genocide. The US considers itself a beacon of democratic values,
but does not make this step not to cause harm to its relations with
Turkey," Safrastyan said.

He regrets the fact that both political and religious factors play
their roles in many countries. "But I am sure the humanity will one
day overcome these barriers."

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 11:32 AM

Egypt Floats Genocide Recognition As Trial Balloon to Warn Turkey

By Harut Sassounian
Publisher, The California Courier

The Arab Spring in Egypt has turned into a hellish summer with countless casualties.

Ever since the Egyptian military deposed President Mohamed Morsi, one particular foreign leader has been screaming the loudest, demanding his immediate reinstatement. That bellicose leader is Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the Prime Minister of Turkey, a staunch supporter of his fellow Islamist Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood.

Egypt’s new leaders, backed by large segments of the population, were infuriated especially after Erdogan severely criticized the overthrow of Pres. Morsi and the killing of hundreds of Muslim Brotherhood protesters. Using extremely harsh language, the Turkish Prime Minister condemned the Egyptian military for “carrying out a massacre with its soldiers, police officers, [and] heavy artillery.” Ironically, Erdogan called anyone who keeps silent in the face of injustice, “a voiceless devil.”

There is no question that a human tragedy is unfolding in Egypt and becoming more critical with each passing day. While no one can remain indifferent to the killing and maiming of civilians, the Prime Minister of Turkey is the last person on earth who should be taking such a self-righteous attitude. Anyone who has blood on his hands has no right to demonize others! One does not have to go back into history and recall the genocides committed by Erdogan’s forefathers against Armenians, Assyrians, and Greeks. Just a couple of months ago, the Turkish Prime Minister’s own hands were soaked in blood when he proudly acknowledged that he ordered the police to open fire on unarmed demonstrators in Istanbul, killing five people, blinding 11, and injuring 8,000 others. Thus, Erdogan has been stripped of all moral authority to lecture anyone else on democracy and civil rights.

Erdogan’s repeated meddling in Egypt’s internal affairs and his staunch support for Pres. Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood escalated the hostilities between the two countries to such a degree that Egypt and Turkey ended up recalling their respective Ambassadors, further disrupting their diplomatic relations. The worsening tension has jeopardized the $2 billion Turkish investment in Egypt and frozen the activities of 300 Turkish businesses in that country.

What a difference a year makes! In May of 2012, when I was visiting Egypt on a lecture tour, a local newspaper refused to publish that part of my interview dealing with the Armenian Genocide. I was informed that given the close relationship between the two Islamist nations, it would be impossible to print anything against Turkey.

Curiously, after Pres. Morsi’s unceremonious departure from power, a series of articles appeared in scores of Egyptian newspapers, detailing the history of the Armenian Genocide, demanding that Turkey pay restitution to the survivors, and calling on Erdogan to acknowledge his country’s criminal past.

To top it all, a surprising twitter message was posted on August 17 by Adly Mansour, Egypt’s Interim President, announcing that his country’s “UN representative tomorrow will sign the international document recognizing the Armenian massacres which were committed by the Turkish army, causing the deaths of one million people.”

Even though Egyptian and Turkish newspapers widely reported the twitter message attributed to the Egyptian President, we were unable to independently confirm its authenticity. However, it is clear that the current Egyptian government and media are intent on using the Armenian Genocide as a way of getting back at Erdogan’s heavy-handed interference in their domestic affairs.

Understandably, most Armenians would be displeased that the victimization of their ancestors is being exploited in a political tug of war between the two countries. Yet, unfortunately, this is politics as usual. If Egypt’s new leaders find it expedient to recognize the Armenian Genocide, this would be a welcome change. It is better to recognize the Genocide, regardless of political motives, than not to recognize it for all the wrong reasons! After all, no one can expect the Egyptian government to take a position on an issue, if it is contrary to its own national interests. In this regard, Egypt is no different from other countries, including the United States and Israel, which periodically dangle acknowledgment of the Armenian Genocide as a Damoclean Sword over the heads of Turkish leaders.

The final decision on the recognition of the Armenian Genocide depends on whatever concessions Cairo is expecting from Ankara. If Egypt, the most populous Arab state, recognizes the Armenian Genocide, that would deal a devastating blow to the Turkish government’s frantic efforts to counter the worldwide commemorations of the Genocide Centennial in 2015.



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Posted 21 August 2013 - 05:44 PM

Has the Egyptian representative signed the document? Was this just a threat to jurkey?



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Posted 21 August 2013 - 06:50 PM

no boghos jan



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Posted 22 August 2013 - 09:57 AM

DEATHS IN EGYPT ARE OVERSHADOWING THIS OTHER BIG EVENT

PolicyMic

Aug 21 2013

Haykaram Nahapetyan

Adly Mansour, Egypt's interim president, tweeted on Saturday,
"Egypt decided to sign onto the international document recognizing
the Armenian Genocide." Raymond Ibrahim, a prominent Middle East and
Islam expert reported about this on his personal web page.

He tweeted in Arabic, "Our representatives at the UN will sign the
international document that acknowledges the Armenian Genocide,
which was committed by the Turkish military, leading to the deaths
of one million."

Many Turkish human rights activists and intellectuals - including
the writer and Nobel Prize winner Orhan Pamuk - recognize the
Ottoman-Turkish genocide of the Armenians in 1915. But the government
of Turkey continues to deny it; recognition of the Armenian genocide
difficult for Ankara officials.

If Cairo accomplishes what Adly Mansour allegedly has tweeted about,
Egypt will become the first country on the African continent and the
second predominantly Muslim state, after Lebanon, to condemn the
Armenian genocide. At this point, about 20 countries have adopted
decisions labeling the organized massacres of the Armenian people as
genocide, including Switzerland, France, Germany, Canada, Slovakia,
and others.

Ibrahim said that Cairo's leaders were angry at Turkey for dooming
the interim authorities for recent violations. On Monday, Ankara even
moved further by criticizing the Organization of Islamic Cooperation
(OIC) and the group's Secretary-General for not taking an active
stance against Egypt, The Associated Press reported. The Turkish
citizenship of the OIC's secretary general didn't stop Ankara's deputy
Prime Minister Bekir Bozdag from calling for his resignation. Irbahim
qualifies the tweet as a response to Turkey's Prime Minister Erdogan's
recent condemnation of Egypt. Erdogan even used the g-word, saying
the Egyptian forces committed genocide against its own people. The
two countries withdrew their Ambassadors respectively from Ankara
and Cairo.

According to Levent Gumrukcu, the spokesperson for the Turkish Foreign
Ministry, Turkey's diplomatic channels found no evidence that the
above-mentioned tweet was authentic. On Monday, Egypt's mission to the
United Nations in New York City confirmed in telephone conversation
that the Twitter account in reality didn't belong to Mansour. Nabil
Fahmy, Egypt's Foreign Minister, said, "As far as I know, Egypt did not
sign anything in the UN over the past two days." He also described the
Turkish stance toward Egypt as "unacceptable". According to the State
Information Service in Cairo, "The decision to scrap the planned naval
exercise with Turkey was made in protest at the unacceptable Turkish
statements and a clear interference in Egypt's domestic affairs."

In social media, both Armenians and Turks extensively reacted to the
latest news. Some Turkish users on timeturk.com claimed, "Mansour is
Christian," similar to the Muslim Brotherhood's statements regarding
the Christian affiliation of the interim leader. Turkish users saw his
religious profile as something, which shouldn't make the recognition
of the Armenian genocide in current day Cairo unexpected.

In Armenia, Gevorg Altunyan, the director of First Channel's news
service, referred to these developments on his Facebook page.

"Although Cairo rejects the genocide recognition rumors at this point,
the importance of possible acknowledgement of the Armenian Genocide by
a predominantly Muslim country shouldn't certainly be underestimated.

And it doesn't really matter what is the reason behind recognition,"
he said. An Armenian scholar Gevorg Poghosyan appeared on the ArmNews
TV channel, saying, "The Armenian genocide condemnation normally comes
to the international agenda when some countries experience problems
with Turkey."

However, some users describe the scandalous tweet as an attempt to
alarm Ankara about possible developments if Erdogan doesn't revise
his anti-Mansour attitude. Interestingly, the Egyptian press recently
has published several articles on the Armenian genocide. Cairo's Sata
Balad newspaper reported Turkey's interference with Egypt's internal
affairs is reminiscent of atrocities of the early 20th century. Essam
Kamel, the editor-in-chief of Veto, an Egyptian independent daily,
also reported on the same topic.

Summarizing the controversy around recognition of the Armenian genocide
by Cairo's interim leadership, Kamel said, "The Egyptian government
has the right to hesitate in acknowledging the massacres of Armenians
by the Turkish forces due to the high incitement of Asitana [today's
Ankara] as this acknowledgement will have bad repercussions on the
Egyptian-Turkish relations."

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 10:38 AM

CONFERENCE TO SUE ERDOGAN OVER THE MASSACRES OF ARMENIANS

Al-Dastour, Egypt
Aug 22 2013

By Ibrahim Zeitoun
Alexandria, Egypt

[Translated from Arabic exclusively for Groong Armenian News Network
by Katia M. Peltekian]

The Popular Front Against Egypt's Brotherhood held a conference
during which it announced that the Front has begun taking steps to
take Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan to the Internationa
Criminal Court.

Mohamed Saad Khairallah, media spokesman of the Front, stated that
the Qatari and Turkish ambassadors to Egypt should have been expelled
from Egypt, and added that the Armenian Cause has been recognized by
24 countries. The court case will be considered on September 4.

He also stated that the Egyptian government's recognition of the
Armenian massacres will be a blow to Turkey; he added that the
people are demanding the expulsion of the U.S., Qatari and Turkish
ambassadors, hoping that the Egyptian decision will correspond with
the aspirations of the people. "

Khairallah revealed that he finished preparing the lawsuit against
Recep Tayyip Erdogan to be submitted to the International Criminal
Court; he says he also possesses documents confirming the involvement
of Erdogan in financing a number of terrorist organizations that are
on the list of international terrorist organizations, such as the
"Awakening Front, Hamas Movement, and Islamic Jihad Movement."

He also said that Erdogan is a member of the International Moslem
Brotherhood Organization and he holds the position of Deputy to the
Leader, receiving orders from the Leader. Erdogan has taken advantage
of his position in Turkey to spy on Egypt. Khairallah added that the
lawsuit file is ready and that in the coming few days, the Front will
issue a statement to the Egyptian people when it files the complaint
at the International Criminal Court in The Hague.

Khairallah asserted that he has documents confirming Erdogan's
involvement in the smuggling of arms shipments to Egypt, which were
used by the Moslem Brotherhood to commit the recent massacres in Egypt.

He also said that he, in his capacity as the founder of the Front,
will submit a complaint against Khayrat Shater and Hassan Malek for
their involvement with Recep Tayyip Erdogan in money laundering and
arms trade worth $30 billion.

He stressed that those documents regarding the arms trade will be
presented to the International Criminal Court, but the files concerning
Erdogan's involvement in money laundering will be submitted to the
Attorney General of Egypt, together with documents that prove Shater's
& Malek's connection with Erdogan to launder money in Egypt.

Khairallah then introduced Vart Vahram, an Egyptian-Armenian, who said
that Egypt had welcomed the Armenians after the massacres perpetrated
by the Turks during the First World War, during which more than a
million and a half Armenians were exterminated ...

During the press conference, Vahram questioned why Egypt has not
yet recognized these massacres since 1915? He pointed out that now
is the time for Egypt to recognize the massacres of Armenians; it is
long overdue and does reveal the Turkish crimes. In fact, he added,
there are around 18,000 Armenians living in Egypt, 2,000 of whom live
and work in Alexandria.

Saad Khairallah concluded that the Front's legal counsellor is also
suing the Administrative Court for Egyptian government's recognition
of the massacres and mass extermination of the Armenians committed
by the Turks in 1915. He revealed that this lawsuit is to assist the
government to find a legal assistance to recognize the massacres of
the Armenians, which Khairallah expects to happen in the next few days.

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 10:42 AM

SUPPORTING ARMENIANS AND KURDS IN TURKEY

Al-Youm Al-Sabeh [The Seventh Day], Egypt
Aug 22 2013

By Kareem Abdel Al-Salam
Thursday, August 22, 2013

It is clear that Mr. Erdogan, the Turkish Prime Minister, does not
know the Egyptian proverb, "He who lives in a glass house should not
throw bricks at others."

Despite Turkey's brutal history in dealing with minorities and
dissidents such as the Armenians, and Kurds, and despite the excessive
violence committed by the Erdogan-Gul party against the demonstrators
in Taksim Square, Turkish Prime Minister insists on sticking his nose
in the affairs of others and getting involved in the internal politics
of other countries, making him a dishonest political adversary,
and degrading his position as prime minister.

Erdogan has suddenly become an active player in the Egyptian branch
of the Moslem Brotherhood, fighting their battles and calling their
adversaries futile. As Prime Minister, not only is he expressing
political opinions regarding the Egyptian situation, constantly voicing
his and his Party's position, but he is also leading a campaign at all
levels in Europe to discredit the Revolution of June 30 and the will
of the Egyptian people. He even goes further demanding financial and
military support to the Brotherhood's terrorism and the suspension
of all aid to Egypt. If Recep Erdogan bet on his narrow partisan
ideologies at the expense of Turkish interests with Egypt, he is
free to do so, and the Turks are the only people who can hold him
accountable for his decisions. But if he has decided to penalize the
Egyptian people and intervene in Egyptian matters, then this is when
we must confront him with what he deserves.

We must hold him accountable for the weapons shipments that he smuggles
through Libya to reach the terrorists who are killing our soldiers
in the Sinai and our people in all the provinces; it is his plan to
apply the Syrian scenario and ignite chaos and a civil war in Egypt.

We must hold Erdogan accountable and punish him for hosting the
suspicious conference held by the International Organization of
Moslem Brotherhood, which was attended by members of several Western
intelligence and the Israeli Mossad, and which concluded with the
need to execute major operations in Egypt that would cause dozens of
victims, in order to provide a justification and a pretext for the
conspiring countries to intervene in Egypt in one way or another.

We must hold Erdogan accountable for declaring an intelligence war
against the Egyptians, and for his and his party's quest to incite
the EU countries to stop aid to Egypt.

But we have to ask ourselves, how can we cause harm to Erdogan and
to Turkey, so that this terrorist kneels to us and understands that
God is right?

First, there must be an all-out war on all Turkish products from TV
dramas to clothes & garments, from the iron that Ankara is trying to
drown us in to Turkish tourism, one of the most important sources of
income for Turkey, which has become a favorite tourist destinations
for Egyptians and Arabs.

Second, Egypt must not declare war against Turkey alone; an Arab
alliance to bring Turkey to its knees must be formed, including Egypt,
Saudi Arabia, the Arab Emirates, Oman and Kuwait. The aim of this
alliance would be to disseminate the idea that Arab boycott of all
Turkish products is synonymous with Arab dignity, and which sets
an example against any country that targets an Arab state in any
possible way.

Third, Arab countries in the anti-Turkey alliance must adopt policies
that support the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) and the Kurds' right
for complete independence on their national lands occupied by Turkey,
together with the call to recognize the PKK internationally and remove
it from the list of the international terrorist organizations.

Fourth, the Arab states and Egypt must recognize the Armenian accounts
of the events of 1915, which assert the organized crimes of genocide
committed against the Armenians in 1915. In addition the Arab states
must adopt a resolution to establish memorials to the victims of the
massacres in every Arab capital.

Believe me, Erdogan will kneel, he will even crawl afterwards to
ask for forgiveness from Egypt & the Arabs, of course if he stays in
his position.

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 10:46 AM

Once again AG is used as a stick and not because it's the right thing to do. But then again I can't be naïve, such is the world politics and I'll take it if it happens.


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Posted 24 August 2013 - 10:55 AM

TURKEY WILL CONTINUE TO INTERFERE IN EGYPT'S INTERNAL AFFAIRS - EXPERT

August 23, 2013 | 12:49

YEREVAN. - Turkey's response to a tweet posted on behalf of interim
president of Egypt proves that Armenian Genocide is an obstacle for
Turkey, analyst said.

Earlier a tweet posted on behalf of interim president of Egypt Adly
Mansour was spread in media.

Turkish authorities are interested in Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt,
since this is an Islamist political party, and this meets the
requirements of Turkey's foreign policy, expert on Arabic studies
Sargis Grigoryan noted.

"For Turkey, Muslim Brotherhood is quite predictable political power
that can be manipulated by Turkey. Ankara will continue to interfere
in the internal affairs of Egypt, despite the fact that the situation
is out of control," Grigoryan told reporters on Friday.

Referring to the political situation in Egypt, the expert predicted
that Muslim Brotherhood will try to regain power, but will do so from
the underground.

At the same time Grigoryan noted that at the moment, inter-religious
problems in the country are not advantages to the Muslim Brotherhood.

For this reason, the Armenian community has not suffered a significant
loss. However, it is possible that in a while situation may change
not in favor of religious minorities.

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 11:09 AM

EGYPTIAN TWITTER POST PUSHES TURKEY'S BUTTONS

AL-Monitor
Aug 23 2013

By: Yasemin Congar for Al-Monitor Turkey Pulse Posted on August 23.

I learned what "khachkar" meant some years ago in Egypt.

I had always known the word, of course. All Turkish school kids
do. It is the mountain range in the northeast that we used to paint
in a dark shade of brown on our hand-drawn maps of Anatolia. We would
even leave a speckle of white in the middle to suggest a summit of
never-melting snow and write there on the top: Kackar.

It was an undefined word, but in my young dreamy mind, I associated
it with glimmering ski slopes -- an image doubtlessly fortified by
the literal meaning of the word's two syllables, kac (escape) and kar
(snow).

That image melted away three decades later as I stood before a green
marble wall inside the St. Gregory The Illuminator Church on Avenue
Ramses in Cairo. There, fixed on the wall at eye level was a frame
with two bird icons facing each other and a stone carving of a cross
above them.

"The khachkar is beautiful" said Garen Mouradian, an Armenian-Egyptian
colleague who had accompanied me to the church.

"Khachkar?" I asked, still looking at the frame.

"Come on, you must know the word," Garen said. "Like the mountains."

Afterward, he explained to me what khachkar meant: a cross-stone that
was a typical form of sculpture in Medieval Christian art. I realized
then that my snow-capped mountains, like so many of the landforms
and old settlements in Anatolia, bore an Armenian name.

We Turks -- at least those of us with curious minds -- all have our
stories of initial awakening to our country's Armenian past and the
consequent self-education trying to tear away the layers of ignorance
instilled in each of us by a school system that turned a blind eye
to the crimes of our ancestors.

My visit to the St. Gregory Church in Cairo was a step in that effort.

Having already read my way through several memoirs of the Meds Yeghern
or "the great tragedy" inflicted upon the Ottoman Armenians, I was
doing a series of interviews with members of the Armenian diaspora
in the region.

I went to the church specifically to see the monument that was
installed to commemorate the 1.5 million Armenians killed in 1915.

Garen translated for me the inscription which gave the date and the
number of the victims, but did not include the word "genocide."

He believed -- as do I -- that the acts against Armenians amounted
to what was defined as genocide by the United Nations in 1948, but he
did not envision Hosni Mubarak's Egypt ever recognizing that. "Turkey
is way too important to upset," he said.

So, when the possibility of such a decision by Cairo -- albeit by
another undemocratic government -- was raised recently, I wondered
what had changed.

In a way, the context is obvious. On Aug. 15, Turkey's Prime Minister
Recep Tayyip Erdogan reacted with fervor to the brutal killings in
Egypt. Criticizing the military coup in the harshest terms, he called
what transpired on the streets of Cairo "a clear massacre."

A translation of Erdogan's words which appeared on several news sites
the next day misquoted him as having described the killings as a
"genocide." Then, on Aug. 17, a statement reportedly by Egypt's
Interim President Adly Mansour surfaced and was widely interpreted
as a quid pro quo.

It was a message posted by what was assumed to be Mansour's personal
account on Twitter. "Our representatives at the United Nations
will sign the international document that acknowledges the Armenian
genocide, which was committed by the Turkish military, leading to
the deaths of 1 million," the message stated in Arabic.

Soon, Turks, Armenians and Arabs of every stripe were frantically
tweeting on the news. Egyptian and Turkish newspapers also reported
the message -- the latter mostly employing Ankara's ludicrous official
cliché, "the so-called genocide."

For their part, the Armenian news sites seemed to welcome the
development.

To me, the most striking denouncement of Mansour's message came from
Rober Koptas, editor-in-chief of the Armenian weekly Agos.

"Those who intend to recognize Armenian genocide because they are
angry with Turkey are essentially showing a lack of respect for the
victims of genocide," Koptas wrote in consecutive Twitter messages.

"This means the genocide was not recognized until today because
relations with Turkey were good. Could anything be more immoral
than that?"

Ruben Melkonyan, the deputy dean at the Oriental Studies Department
of Yerevan State University, also took issue with Cairo's reported
intention. He told the Armenian news site Tert.am that a decision
by Egypt to recognize the genocide earlier would have been more
praiseworthy and honest.

"For us, it is naturally important for an Arab country like Egypt to
acknowledge and condemn the Armenian genocide, given especially that
the Armenians have played an essential role in the history of Egypt.

But, ... the selection of timing gives ground for concern a little
bit."

Later, it all turned out to be a storm in 140 characters.

Turkish Foreign Ministry Spokesman Levent Gumrukcu was the first to
dismiss the news: "The Egyptian side reported to us that the Interim
President Mansour doesn't even have a Twitter account." Egypt followed
suit the next day with a statement from its permanent mission at the
United Nations.

Was all that arguing much ado about nothing then?

Hardly. What now seems a trial balloon by Egypt, if not an outright
attempt at intimidating Erdogan, clearly touched a sore spot in Ankara
and revealed a certain amount of panic.

Less than 48 hours after Turkey had recalled its ambassador to Egypt,
Turkish diplomats found themselves furiously working through channels
in Cairo and New York to prevent a possible move by the Egyptian
interim government at the United Nations. When the message was
eventually disowned by Mansour, the sigh of relief in Ankara was
audible around the world.

Turkey's justifiably harsh criticism toward Egyptian authorities was
already viewed in the region as reflecting a double standard in light
of Erdogan's endorsement of recent police brutality in Istanbul. The
impact of the Turkish position vis-a-vis Egypt further weakened as
the international community was reminded of Ankara's inability to
deal with a major crime in its own history.

Rober Koptas is right. Not much can be as immoral as treating the
genocide issue as a political football.

Nonetheless, at a time when the countdown for worldwide commemorations
of the genocide centennial with the motto "Remember, remind and
reclaim" is about to begin, a "fake" tweet might have tempted
international players to do just that.

Before the tweet was refuted, I had emailed Garen -- who now lives
outside Egypt -- to ask if he heard of it. "Never mind the tweet," he
wrote back, "Lately, Egyptian newspapers have been busy rediscovering
the genocide. The army wants to keep the Armenian minority on board,
I suppose."

Then he added: "Do you still remember what khachkar means?"

Yasemin Congar is the author of four books in Turkish, among them
Artık Sır Degil (No More A Secret), a detailed analysis of the US
diplomatic cables on Turkey first made public by WikiLeaks. A former
Washington bureau chief for Milliyet (1995-2007) and a founding deputy
editor-in-chief of Taraf (2007-2012), Congar is currently based in
Istanbul and is a columnist for the Internet newspaper T24.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 10:06 AM

EGYPTIAN EL-BALAD NEWSPAPER CONDEMNS TURKEY'S DENIAL OF ARMENIAN GENOCIDE

- AUGUST 24, 2013

Despite historical evidence, Turkey refuses to recognize its major crime

By Alaa Elmenyawi
El-Balad Newspaper

Editor's note: Below is a translation of El-Balad article: written in
Arabic by an Egyptian journalist Alaa Elmenyawi visiting Armenia in
April 2013. Translated by: Nora Armani, a multifaceted, mufti-lingual
actress in USA.

Despite historical evidence of the crime, Turkey has so far refused
to recognize its major crime committed by the Ottoman Empire after
World War I; the massacres against the Armenians, also known as the
Armenian Holocaust, or the Catastrophe (Medz Yeghern). This refers
to the deliberate and systematic killing of the Armenian population
by the Ottoman Empire through forced deportations of the Armenians.

Researchers estimate the number of victims to be between one and
1.5 million.

It is widely recognized that the massacres of the Armenians is
considered one of the earliest crimes of genocide, and the first
in modern history. Researchers point out that the methodology and
organization with which the killings were carried out, aimed at the
annihilation of the Armenians, is considered the second largest mass
crime after the Holocaust, and that the word Genocide was coined to
describe these events.

Today, there are many memorial structures that include some of the
remains of victims of the massacres. The Commemoration Day is April
24of each year, the anniversary of the Armenian massacres. In recent
years, there have been repeated calls to Turkey to recognize the
events as Genocide. So far, twenty countries formally recognized
the Armenian massacres as Genocide, and most genocide scholars and
historians accept this view. There are more than 135 memorials,
spread over 25 countries commemorating the Armenian Genocide.

The Armenian Genocide Museum is located in Yerevan. It houses many
documents and photos chronicling the massacres and numerous stories
depicting the humanitarian tragedies, and how some contemporary kings
and rulers helped rescue the victims and shelter the survivors. Next
to the museum a 44 meters tall memorial stands erect as a symbol of
Armenian national revival, together with twelve slabs of concrete
structure arranged in a circle at the center of which burns an eternal
flame. On April 24 each year, hundreds of thousands of people walk to
the Genocide Monument and and place flowers around the eternal flame.

http://www.armenianl...enian-genocide/

 



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Posted 28 August 2013 - 09:46 AM

A MONUMENT IN CAIRO DEDICATED TO THE ARMENIAN MASSACRES COMMITTED BY TURKS

Veto Gate, Egypt
Aug 27 2013

Tuesday 27 / August / 2013 - 12:24 PM
By Essam Kamel, Editor in Chief

[Translated from Arabic exclusively for Groong Armenian News Network
by Katia M. Peltekian]

As soon as the presses rolled and the previous issue of Veto was
distributed to the readers, I received tens of phone calls and emails
demanding that I take action towards the realization of the Egyptian
people's recognition of the Armenian massacres committed by the Turks.

There were many suggestions from both readers and intellectuals,
some of whom supported the idea of the recognition and others who
demanded an immediate & decisive action, at least symbolically,
until an agreement would be reached for a method to communicate with
international bodies to support the Armenians with their cause.

I will not be exaggerating if I say Europe, which has committed worse
crimes against humankind, is not better than we are, but has already
erected memorials representing the Turkish atrocities committed
against the peaceful Armenian people. Therefore, I am calling for
immediate action to erect a monument in one of Cairo's main squares
for the Armenian victims whose only crime was demanding a national
independence. I will be the first to donate my monthly salary to
implement this project immediately, and hopefully other social or civic
society organizations concerned with human rights would take over.

The idea is simple as we have a number of internationally renowned
artists who will volunteer for this task. We will set an example for
all humankind that our people will support this idea because it is
noble and civilized, and not only because Armenians have played an
important role in Egypt. It is sufficient to mention to our readers
that during the liberation of Taba, we relied on maps provided by
Egypt's first Foreign Minister Boghos Bey Yusufian, and he is Armenian
by origin.

And Armenians in Egypt have an honorable history, beginning with
contributions in intricate industries, most important of which is
jewelry, passing through many important professions, and reaching
highest political offices. In fact, many of the Armenians played
important roles in our fight for national independence when Egypt was
subject to the yoke of occupation. We will address the importance of
the Armenians in Egyptian life in upcoming articles "insha'allah'.

Now back to the necessity to support the idea of a monument
memorializing the Armenian victims of the massacres perpetrated by the
Turks and which claimed the lives of tens of thousands of children,
women and the elderly in a systematic mass-annihilation. To create
a different social demography, the massacres were committed by the
Turkish troops at different intervals of time in history while Europe
assisted with its silence.

Perhaps the most important characteristic of Egyptian support for
this idea is that Egypt was one of the foremost States in support
of the Armenians when they were subjected to waves of brutality
by the Ottoman Empire. Thousands of Armenians escaping from the
Ottoman Sultan's hell were welcomed at Port Said, while the civilized
countries blessed the Turkish actions with their silence or according
to political equations with the Caliphate nation.

This monument should be erected on Salah Salem Street - near Cairo
Airport - not only as an important tribute for all travelers to
Egypt to see, but also as a meaningful humane message; this monument
will also return a favor to the Armenians for all their civilized
contributions in our struggle for independence, in addition to their
contributions in the different aspects of life in Egypt.

If not at that location, then let us erect it in front of the Turkish
Embassy; perhaps that memory will assist the believers, that is if
they are true believers!


---------- Read the original in Arabic at
http://www.vetogate....85#.UhyzlsRzbmI

 



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Posted 29 August 2013 - 10:12 AM

GOVERNMENT, RELIGIOUS FIGURES IN EGYPT RESPOND TO ERDOGAN'S CRITICISM OF SHEIKH

Today's Zaman, Turkey
Aug 28 2013

28 August 2013 /TODAY'S ZAMAN, Ä°STANBUL The Egyptian interim prime
minister and Ministry of Foreign Affairs as well as religious figures
from the most populous Arab nation have denounced remarks by Turkish
Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan earlier this week that slammed
the country's leading Islamic cleric for endorsing the military coup
in Egypt.

Speaking at a university in the northern province of Rize on Sunday,
Erdogan said he was disappointed by Grand Sheikh of Al-Azhar University
Ahmet el-Tayeb's endorsement of the coup by backing an army-sponsored
roadmap on July 3 that removed President Mohammed Morsi, suspended
the constitution and called for early presidential and parliamentary
elections.

"How could you ever do it?" Erdogan asked. "That scholar [the Al-Azhar
sheikh] is finished. History will curse men like him as history cursed
similar scholars in Turkey before."

Erdogan's remarks were denounced by Egyptian interim Prime Minister
Hazem el-Beblawi, who in a statement on Tuesday said the grand
imam holds great value for Egypt and the Islamic and Arab worlds. He
underlined that the imam heads "one of the largest Islamic institutions
of the world, which works to spread Islam's accurate tolerant
teachings," the Egyptian al-Ahram daily reported Beblawi as saying.

Beblawi said in the statement that el-Tayeb has played a "national
role" in his efforts for Egypt and the country's greater good.

Also on Tuesday, Coptic Orthodox Pope Tawadros II in Egypt telephoned
el-Tayeb, denouncing Erdogan's remarks about the sheikh, the Egyptian
state Middle East News Agency (MENA) reported.

Tawadros' secretary, Father Angelos Issac, said the pope condemned
"foreign interference in Egypt's domestic affairs," saying that
"both the Church and Al-Azhar need to support the Egyptian people,
army and police in the great 30 June revolution."

Al-Azhar and the Coptic Church endorsed the July 3 military coup
in Egypt.

According to a news report on MENA, presidential media advisor Ahmed
El-Muslimani also criticized Erdogan, saying after a meeting with
the grand sheikh of Al-Azhar on Tuesday that it is time to tell the
"Turks and their likes" that "tolerance and moderation are the basis
for any renaissance."

The Egyptian Ministry of Foreign Affairs called attacks on Egypt's
Islamic institution an "insult to all Egyptians."

A statement issued by the ministry on Monday said it condemns Erdogan's
"continuous profaning of the Egyptian state's institutions, against
the backdrop of his support for the Muslim Brotherhood," Ahram Online
reported.

The statement said Erdogan's remarks raised doubts about "the
significance and motives" behind Turkish officials' continuous rebuke
of the Egyptian army.

"The foreign ministry calls on religious clerics in Turkey and the
world to address these abuses and respond firmly and decisively
in order to preserve the status of Al-Azhar, which is a beacon of
tolerant and moderate Islam," said the statement.

Similarly on Monday, Egyptian Grand Mufti Shawqi Allam called on
Egyptian officials to respond to everyone who insults the Islamic
institution and its grand imam, saying that any insult to Al-Azhar
is considered a "national security threat."

AK Party deputy Bal says Turkey should not lose Egypt

Deputy Ä°dris Bal of the ruling Justice and Development (AK Party)
warned Turkey in a report he prepared about the recent developments in
Egypt about its foreign policy on that country, saying that Ankara's
stance could cost the country to lose the most populous Arab nation.

Noting that it is natural for Turkey to criticize the July 3 military
coup in Egypt, the deputy warned that Ankara should still be careful
about its moves regarding Egypt. "As our relations with Iran, Iraq,
Syria, Israel, Armenia and Greece are already strained, we should not
add Egypt to the list of countries with which Turkey has problems. We
should be careful," warned Bal.

He added that if Turkey loses its relationship with Egypt, it will
have to face economic and political repercussions in addition to the
impact this would have on Turkish security.

 






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