Globalisation?

I'll try to translate the part of the "Legend of Babelon Tower" which I remember.

"When God created the earth people where speaking one language. They were of one color and had the same habits. They worshiped the God, made sacrifices in his honor and expressed their gratitude for the bread and water the God gave them.
As time passed by people of the earth developed and one day they decided to build a tower and see the God. They started to build the tower at the city of Babelon. Those who started the construction were long dead when the tower was almost compleeted. But the God punished the people of the earth for their attemped to become gods themselves. He pained them in different colors, mixed their languages so that nobody was able to understand the other, and changed their habits. After this people started to argue who was the best among them to own the tower. Finally as a result of war the tower was destroyed".

My question is: Should we build the tower again?

Note: Sarcasm is accepted but try to have a point!

I am not sure if we should.
But only GOD would be able to do so (impossible)

Basically the Bible tells us that the Anti-christ will try to build a falsely united kingdom. However, this doesn't mean everyone should continue with their petty factions, Armenian vs. Azeri, Sinhal vs. Tamil, Albanian vs. Serb, etc ad nauseum! We must work for peace, because it is the perfect will of our Lord. We must pray for the conversion of the Azeris, did you know many are converting to Evangelical Christianity? I am not saying throw in the towel and say "Here Turks and Azeris come and take our lands, pillage and sack." What I am saying is there comes a point when we must look beyond nationalism and see each other as God's children. All the divisions are artificial.

The perfect will of our Lord was presented to us by Jesus Christ 2000 years ago. Since then thousands of wars have been fought.
Please, define what the lable "petty faction" meens: can we apply it only to Irish vs. English, Spanish vs. Bask, or US vs. China vs. Russia vs. Iran, Paki vs. India, all these are petty factions too. Is being a petty or non-petty a matter of population, or geopolitical significance or smth. else.
And also, can we find a strong and peaceful force to lead us in the struggle for peace?

Yes Berj, I would definetely include the Pakistan vs. India bickering and all the others you mentioned as petty factions. Yes it is all just a repetition of Cain and Abel being played out over and over. Is there a strong force to lead us to peace? Yes, there is, his name is Jesus Christ! I don't mean to sound like a Bible-thumper, I am not necessarily a fundamentalist Christian, but I really do believe that only God can bring us true peace.

I don't however believe in Globalization. It harms more than it helps and I hate to see the Americanization of the world, as much as I love the U.S. Mexicans should be Mexicans, Chinese should be Chinese, etc. My God, the last time I went to Ensenada Mexico, I had to go all over town to find a Panaderia (self serve bakeries with traditional Mexican sweet breads and hot chocolate), but boy was there a Winchell's Donut shop on every corner!

AZERBAIJAN LIFTS BAN ON *** BETWEEN MEN

MEDIA RELEASE BY ILGA-EUROPE

Gay activists in Azerbaijan report that the ban on ***ual
relationships between men in that country has been lifted. A special
edition of "Azerbaijan", the official newspaper of the Parliament,
published on 28 May, reports that the Parliament has approved a new
Criminal Code, and that the President has signed a decree bringing it
into force in September. The text of the new Criminal Code is also
published. From this it is clear that the old Article 113 (inherited
>From the Soviet era, and which punished anal *** between men with
three years imprisonment) has been replaced with a new Article 150,
which bans only forcible ***ual acts.

Azerbaijan has applied for membership of the Council of Europe,
and the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe is due to vote
on its application on Wednesday 28 June. The introduction of the new
Criminal Code is part of the widespread legal and institutional
reforms undertaken by Azerbaijan in order to bring its institutions up
to the standards required by the Council of Europe. These standards
include the abolition of laws which ban same-*** relationships.

ILGA Europe has been campaigning for the last 18 months to
ensure that Article 113 is repealed as a condition of membership of
the Council of Europe. Last month a Committee of the Parliamentary
Assembly proposed that acceptance of Azerbaijan's membership on 28
June be made subject to a specific obligation to repeal Article 113.

Nico Beger, ILGA-Europe co-delegate to the Council of Europe,
commented: "This is very good news. Article 113 created real problems
for gay people, particularly through extortion by corrupt police
officers."

Her co-delegate Nigel Warner added: "Since the historic ruling by the
European Court of Human Rights in the Dudgeon case in 1981 some 22
countries and territories in Europe have repealed laws banning gay
relationships. In the whole of Europe only Armenia, the Republika
Srpska entity of Bosnia Hercegovina and the Chechen Republic still
maintain such laws".


THE INTERNATIONAL LESBIAN AND GAY ASSOCIATION

The International Lesbian and Gay Association is a world-wide
federation of 350 national and local groups dedicated to achieving
equal rights for lesbians, gay men, bi***uals and transgendered people
everywhere.


THE COUNCIL OF EUROPE

The Council of Europe's main role is to strengthen democracy,
human rights and the rule of law throughout its member states. Founded
in the wake of the Second World War, it is the continent's most
important human rights organisation, with some 41 member states
committed to observing its human rights standards.

The European Convention on Human Rights is the most significant of its
many human rights treaties. The European Court of Human Rights settles
complaints of violations of this Convention.

The Council of Europe is governed by the Foreign Ministers of
its member states (who together form its decision-making body, the
"Committee of Ministers") and by Representatives from their
parliaments (who make up its "Parliamentary Assembly".) More
information on the Council can be obtained from its website, www.coe.fr

NB: The Council of Europe is not the same as the European
Union, which is primarily an economic institution, comprising 15 West
European member states

Berj's P.S.: I'M PROUD OF ARMENIA!!!Hail Armenia, Hail Serbs, Hail Chechens!

Hail Serbs ??? How can an Armenian, when taking into account our experience of genocide, stand up for those that practise it ?

'Ethnic cleansing' (possibley the ugliest term in the English language) has been a policy of the Serbians in the last decade.

How can you support that ?

I don't understand

Hagopian jan

Because the Serbs are Orthodox Christians, so that makes it ok!

Do you take any other news except from CNN and BBC. Because when they say "WORLD COMMUNITY CONDEMNS..." they just mean NATO. Actually, the situation in Kosovo has changed, and now the Albanians are cleasing the Serbs and burning their churches.
Anyway, I hailed Serbs as an etnic entity who didn't passed the gay rights legislation. Please, read before replying.

Farsi,

Didn't you noticed the word "Chechens" in my posting. They're definitly not Christians.

So what if they let men get off on each other. With all the problems facing Armenia, i don't really see gay men as being a big issue. Live and let live.

That's exactly what I'm talking about: concidering all the problems Armenia is facing now, why are we being pressed to pass those irrelevant gay rights and sect rights legislations. There are gays in Armenia, but they are so few that they don't even need a legislation. Let them go to Netherlands, this is a very good place for them. Does this world have a right to gay free zones or not?

hayastan@ mnum e Hayastan yev k@mna HAyastan .!!!!
karevor che vorkan djvar lini kam vorkan Vat lini Sotsyalakan yev kam Finansakan Vojak @ Hayastany .
isk inch veraberum e gay massayin astavts irenst het . heto inch vor ka gay Hayastanum ? urmen inch Hayastan@ vorakazrkvum e amborjovin ? mi kani gay unenalov Hayastan@ yev Hay azg@ dartsav q@erch u palas ? voch !!! yerbek .

Tvek n@ranst azatutyun yev kam kiyevyan kamurjits. azat torek inch kuzen tor anen kuzen tor trnen Hayastanits durs kuzen tor trenen iyskan Liberal yev azatamoll USA

norits em asum vorkan el vat lini mer azgi vichak@ menak norits mnum enk Hay yev der shat barstr enk mer makrutyamb shat u shaterits.

JanFedayi,
Es vonc eghav vor Astvats@ irenc het? Astvats@ mer het a!, Satanan a irenc het!

Apjan de mikich el irants het tor erni mek el tesar xelkernin havaken gluxner@.
yev te Satanan Chliner Astsu Raderr@ voch mekn el cher imana.!!! Kliner Sovorakan Sirrvats Trra

Excerpt from report by Armenian news agency Noyan Tapan on 22nd August

Yerevan, 21st August: Only in the past 10 years has the Armenian
Apostolic Church managed to carry out its mission, Archbishop (?Arsen
Berberyan) noted at a meeting at the Azdak club of the Union of
Constitutional Rights. However, he said, sectarianism simultaneously
started spreading throughout the country. The archbishop also accused the
Armenian government of failing to include the history of religion in the
curriculums of general education schools and of indifference towards the
church and religion. For example, the archbishop said, the Armenian
Apostolic Church has been given one building in Vanadzor, while other
religious organizations have been allocated forty.
The archbishop also expressed concern at some of the conditions for
Armenia's membership in the Council of Europe, particularly those on the
legalization of the rights of ***ual minorities and sectarianism.
Speaking about the current activities of the Armenian Apostolic
Church, Berberyan said that the task of the church was to train a large
number of clergymen - around 200 trainees have already joined seminaries
in Echmiadzin, Sevan and Gyumri.
[Passage omitted: chairman of the union says that despite spread of
atheism during the Soviet period, Armenians managed to hold on to
Christianity]

Karcum em chen moracel trainingi mej mtcnel "How to run a successful business in Church" ararkan. Dzez chi tvum vor yekexecin gnalov korcnuma ir dern u demq@? Miguce eta patjar@ vor mardik darnum en taber axandneri andam?

Garo, I think you are right. Rather than to think on how to provide spiritual leadership, the Armenian Church is counting on the Government to crack-down on the sects.

Agreed 100%. I'm already feeling psycological difficulties when visiting the churches, especially ones in Yerevan and Echmiadzin.

The Armenian Church, seating on the laurels of a national church status, corrupted, outdated, aimless finds the courage to demand things from the government and the people (in this case not the same thing).

If they had a little bit of shame and decency they would be helping the nation.

But no. With diaspora money they build a huge church in a country with probably the highest number of churches per capita in the world.

They don´t share the same fighting spirit of other Christian churches, concern for inequality, human rights, corruption, poverty, disintegration of the Armenian social fabric. Their role in most of the diaspora has been a shame.

And we call this charlatans our spiritual and national leaders...