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#1 MosJan

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Posted 08 April 2015 - 02:31 PM

i'm having a  senior citizen moment.. :(  cant  remember  at all and  cant;  find the answer on internet

need help please Historical Armenian Stats ? Marz ?/ Vilaet ?

 

was it 7  or 12  states ? names ??

 



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Posted 12 April 2015 - 01:35 AM

Prehistoric Armenia

Historical political entities Early

Medievial

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Early 20th century: Western (Ottoman) and Eastern (Russian) Armenias.

23px-Flag_of_the_Ottoman_Empire.svg.png Ottoman Empire Before 1864

Six Armenian vilayets 1864-1923

  1. Bitlis Vilayet
  2. Erzurum Vilayet
  3. Diyarbekir Vilayet
  4. Mamuretülaziz Vilayet
  5. Van Vilayet
  6. Sivas Vilayet

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 01:41 AM

23px-Flag_of_Russia.svg.png Russian Empire
  • 15px-Caucasian_COA%28Russian_Empire%29.j Armenian Oblast (1828-1840) - about half of the population
  • 20px-Coat_of_Arms_of_Erivan_gubernia_%28 Erivan Governorate (1850-1917) - a little more than half of the population
  • 20px-Karobl.png Kars Oblast (1878-1918) - about 1/4 of the population, plurality
  • 20px-%D0%95%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%B0%D0%B Elisabethpol Governorate (1868-1917) - about 1/3 of the population; majority in Shusha uyezd, significant part of Kazakh and Zangezur uyezds population
  • 20px-%D0%A2%D0%B8%D1%84%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%8 Tiflis Governorate (1847-1917) - about 1/5 of the population; majority in Akhalkalaki uyezd, plurality in Borchali uyezds, second ethnic group in Akhaltsikhe uyezd
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Posted 12 April 2015 - 01:43 AM

23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union Present political entities

This is the list of the current states and regions where Armenians are in absolute or relative ethnic majority, are one of the constitutional or recognized peoples or Armenian language is official:

 

I don't know how complete this is.


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Posted 21 April 2015 - 10:55 AM

Shnorhakal em onjig jan



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Posted 21 April 2015 - 11:52 PM

Vochinch e urakh em:


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Posted 27 April 2015 - 09:01 PM

Mos Jan usually people talk about the 6 "Vilayets" (Nahankner)

 

these are:

 

1. Van

2. Bitlis (Daron)

3. Diyarbekir (Dikranagerd)

4. Mamuret-Ul-Aziz (Kharpert)

5. Erzurum (Garin)

6. Sivas (Sepastia)

 

At the Centennial April 24 here in Detroit they named 12 areas of historic Armenia decimated during the Genocide. I think they got the names of these areas from the memorial of Dzidzernagapert which has 12 pillars.

 

The 12 areas were the above 6, plus:

 

1. Kars

2. Batum

3. Trapizon

4. Ankara

5. Adana

6. Haleb

 

maybe you are suprised to see the name of Ankara on the list. However aside from Kars and Batum, which were part of Russia, these other 10 areas were designated by the Vilayets of the Ottoman Empire not by historic regions of Armenia or even the dioceses of the various Armenian regions under the Armenian Church administration in Ottoman Empire. Kars and Batum as well were designated because they were Oblasts of the Russian Empire.

 

For example, Haleb, though the people of the city of Haleb were mostly spared the Genocide, its Vilayet included places such as Musa Dagh, Kessab, Antioch, Aintab, Marash, and Urfa which Armenians don't necessarily associate with Haleb and which were affected by the Genocide.

 

Similarly with Ankara, the city had only a small population of Armenians, mostly Catholic. But more importantly Ankara Vilayet included such places of Armenian settlements as Sivrihisar and Yozghat, and especially Gesaria with its many surrounding villages such as Talas, Germir, Efkere, Munjusun, Evereg, Fenese, Chomakhlu, Tomarza, Jujun, and Injesu. Armenians considered Gesaria its own region but in Ottoman maps it is part of Ankara Vilayet, and then I guess they didn't want to leave out the Yozghatsi's who are not part of Gesaria region. 

 

I was suprised to hear the name of Batum. I did not know that the Turkish army made incursions into this area...then I found out that Artvin and other cities in the area had belonged to Batum Oblast of the Russian Empire, they were given to Turkey after the war.

 






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