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#21 MosJan

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Posted 03 March 2003 - 11:24 PM

lseq chkartseq te HAyastani LAV@ chem uzzum - urraki havat@s kortsrel em - srants n@katmamb....

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Posted 04 March 2003 - 01:54 AM

MJ, Please give us an update how everything went at the protest.

In Glendale few people(men and a woman) were beat up at the Kocharian meeting. Including one inside the church. That says alot about the people behind Kocharian.

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Posted 04 March 2003 - 02:16 AM

quote:
Originally posted by vava:
and less two-faced rhetoric.

Yes, this is exactly what we need, also from our activists. What we don't need are activists fighting for human rights and democracy, and at the same time doing everything in their power to eliminate or utterly ignore their opposition.

#24 MJ

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Posted 04 March 2003 - 04:51 AM

Thanks for asking Azat.

It was good. At its height, we had 30-40 people come to raise their word in a freazing weather.

Large numbers of people let us know that they agree with us, however "they travel to Armenia and don't want to be in the black list."

We accomplished what we had in mind.

Vava, I don't what you are referring to.

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Posted 04 March 2003 - 05:28 AM

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Martin yete Demirjyan@ @entrvi du het HAyastan k@gnas ??? mhtakan bnakutyan ???

Movses

Movses,

Yes zarmanum em kez vra. Yes khosum em Hayastanum tirogh bedakan terrori, Hayastani Sahmanadrman annakhadep vodnaharman, Hayastani zhoghovrdi kamki dem batsartzak ev sandzartsak votnaharumneri masin, du inaz "Stepani" masin es hartsnum.

Inchum e ban@?

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Posted 04 March 2003 - 10:00 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by MosJan:


Martin yete Demirjyan@ @entrvi du het HAyastan k@gnas ??? mhtakan bnakutyan ???

Movses

Movses,

Yes zarmanum em kez vra. Yes khosum em Hayastanum tirogh bedakan terrori, Hayastani Sahmanadrman annakhadep vodnaharman, Hayastani zhoghovrdi kamki dem batsartzak ev sandzartsak votnaharumneri masin, du inaz "Stepani" masin es hartsnum.

Inchum e ban@?

Martin jan du im hartsini chpatasxanetsir - yes qo masin em hartsnum - >> Martin yete Demirjyan@ @entrvi du het HAyastan k@gnas ??? mshtakan bnakutyan ??? <

Martin yes lav gitem te Hayastan inch e kattarvum - yev shat aveli lav em patkeratsnum te inch e katarvelu yerb Stepanin nstyetsnen Gahin - sakain chem gtnum vor prezidenting poxelov amen inch ir terr@ k@nkni VOCH -
amen inch nerqevits petq e sksel - yerb jorovurd@ inq@ gitaktsy te inch e petq - vor kasharel@ yev goranal@ jisjt che ~ yerb hayr@ $3000+ chta odanavakayani tnorenin ir zavakin ashxatanqi teravorelu hamar - vopr na el var@ Hayatsan ner & durs anorin chG@rpi - vor $3000~4000 vostikan asxhatelu hamar chta - yev ir zavak@ jorovrdi kashin qerti inch te amen amis $**** Nalok ta ~~ yev iyspes sharunak - jorovurd@ petq e patrast lineli popoxutyan@ - te che vorqan kuzes du prezident poxi - inchpes himq@ xalxuld tan taniq@ poxes - meke himq chunes - is te taniq@ tekuz amenalavn e - inch ogut var@ mek e pul e galu - nor iyd amak yerevi "himq@" k@haskana vor amen inch "himqits" e sksum.

yes chem portsum Qocharyanin Surbi ter antskatsnel - sakayn demirjyani Korkin el Srber yev hreshtakner chem tesnum...

yev norits im harts@ qez Martin - yete hajorvi var@ yev qocharyani poxaren - Demirjyan@ lini - vorin du satarum es - Du het Hayastan k@gnas - mshtakan bnakutyan ??? unes iyd havat@ Demirjyani n@katmamb ???

orinak Yuri Vardanyan @ yerek bravum er vro te demirjyan@ lini - inq@ Yev 100Hazar HAyer Het Haysatan k@gnan.

#27 MJ

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Posted 04 March 2003 - 10:27 AM

Movses,

Do indz angap harts es talis ev krknum arden erek angam. Im Hayastan gnal chgnale voch Demirchiani het kab uni voch el Kocharyani.

Inch verabervum e "nerkevits skselun," hents da e vor zhoghovurde portsum e anel Hayastanum, baits do glukhd tekum es vor chtesnes.

Karg u kanone "hor@ goghmits $3000 gashark chtaluts ch sksvum." Karg u kanone skvum e karg u kanon erashkhavoroghi goghmits erkri Sahmanadrutiune hargeluts ev bashdbaneluts, voch te Sahamanadrutiune arhamarheluts.

Inch verabervum e Demirchianin satarelun.... yes voch Demirchianin em satarum, voch Muratsanin voch el Vardan Mamigonianin. Indz nakhagahi andze chi hetakrkrum ail yerkri iravagan mtnolort@ ev tndesakan mtnolorte.

Ev, norits, inch verabervum e Hayastan veradarnal-cveradarnalun, aispisi entrutiunneri hetevanke linelu voch te Hayastan veradarnal@ ail evs 500,000 mardu Hayastanits heranal@ arachin isk hnaravorutian depkum.

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Posted 04 March 2003 - 10:41 AM

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Indz nakhagahi andze chi hetakrkrum ail yerkri iravagan mtnolort@ ev tndesakan mtnolorte.


Moratsa asem, naev baroiagan mtnolort@.

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Posted 05 March 2003 - 12:17 AM

Mr. MJ PhD when did you leave Armenia and why?

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Posted 05 March 2003 - 12:31 AM

Governing Party To Go It Alone In Parliamentary Polls


By Ruzanna Khachatrian

The governing Republican Party of Armenia (HHK) reaffirmed on Tuesday plans to contest next May’s parliamentary elections without forming an alliance with other political groups supporting President Robert Kocharian.

“Nobody is saying that we are creating an alliance to support Robert Kocharian’s [presidential] candidacy,” said Tigran Torosian, the party’s deputy chairman and a vice-speaker of the Armenian parliament. “I don’t see anything bad in it.”

The HHK led by Prime Minister Andranik Markarian is the most influential of more than a dozen parties campaigning for Kocharian’s reelection. Leaders of those parties have accompanied the incumbent on his campaign trips and have actively participated in recent days’ televised debates with top allies of opposition candidate Stepan Demirchian.

Two other major pro-Kocharian groups, the Armenian Revolutionary Federation (Dashnaktsutyun) and the Orinats Yerkir party, are also widely expected to go it alone for the parliamentary vote. Their leaders have publicly accused the Republicans in the past of using unfair methods to expand their control of many government bodies. Relations between the three parties worsened in the wake of last October’s local elections won by the HHK. But for the moment they seem united by the common goal of helping Kocharian win a second term in office.

The nomination of candidates for 131 seats in Armenia’s National Assembly officially starts on March 11. Seventy-five of them will be allocated under the system of proportional representation of parties and electoral blocs. The other seats will be contested in single-mandate constituencies across the country.

Torosian said the Republicans will be seeking to “maintain and, if possible, strengthen” their dominant positions in the outgoing parliament. The HHK controls the parliament’s largest Miasnutyun (Unity) faction which currently holds 38 legislative seats.

MJ are you one of the founders of Republican Party of Armenia that the article talks about above?

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Posted 05 March 2003 - 12:57 AM

You are not entitled to asking me questions. At least, you are not entitled to answers.

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Posted 04 March 2003 - 01:35 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MJ:
Thanks for asking Azat.

It was good. At its height, we had 30-40 people come to raise their word in a freazing weather.

Large numbers of people let us know that they agree with us, however "they travel to Armenia and don't want to be in the black list."

We accomplished what we had in mind.

...

MJ, Congratulations on a successful demonstration/protest campaign. I am happy that you guys were able to hold a peaceful protest unlike the couple where people have been beat up in LA area. Shame on all of those.

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Posted 04 March 2003 - 01:59 PM

MJ, so that we know beforehand and don't waste time, who is entitled to ask you a question?

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Posted 04 March 2003 - 02:10 PM

Thanks again, Azat. We had no problems whatsoever.

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Posted 04 March 2003 - 02:26 PM

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Vava, I don't what you are referring to.

I was merely voicing my support for you efforts. Frankly, I didn't think it was very difficult to understand, but nevertheless I edited my post above - maybe it's a little more clear. Congratulations on your successful protest.

[ March 04, 2003, 02:32 PM: Message edited by: vava ]

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Posted 04 March 2003 - 02:52 PM

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quote:
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Vava, I don't what you are referring to.

I was merely voicing my support for you efforts. Frankly, I didn't think it was very difficult to understand, but nevertheless I edited my post above - maybe it's a little more clear. Congratulations on your successful protest.
Thanks, Vava. I think it was indeed a success as a first step. In fact, someone has referenced an article from RFE, above, which to an experienced eye gives the first signal of things in motion.

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Posted 04 March 2003 - 03:11 PM

It is just some people have courage to answer honestly and some give backward answers that do not mean anything instead of saying I prefer not to tell.

The Republican Party of Armenia that is in Armenia now, is supporting Mr. Kocharian. Can anyone who is entitled to ask questions to MJ clarify why he opposes the party views that he claims to have established?

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Posted 04 March 2003 - 03:29 PM

ARR, what part of Armenia are you from?

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Posted 04 March 2003 - 03:53 PM

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ARR, what part of Armenia are you from?

I am from Yerevan, Vanadzor, Gumri, Goris, Megri, Stepanakert, Abovyan, Echmiatsin. I am even from Kars and Van. I am also from Javakhk. But I was born in Nerkin Shen. All of it together is called Hayastan. I am also from the United States because I have been an international graduate student for 8 month now.

What about you?

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Posted 04 March 2003 - 05:33 PM

I am originally from Yerevan, but today I reside in the second largest Armenian city of the world: Los Angeles.

And I know I am going to sound like a fool, but where is Nerkin Shen?




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