Duduk reed plants are also in United States
#1
Posted 02 January 2012 - 09:29 AM
in the Armenian Duduk, I stumbled across some information on this plant. It is
known as Giant Reed, Spanish Reed and scientific name is Arundo Donax L. Grown
in Eurasia and Mediterranean areas, it was brought to America as early as the
1800's. One of it's many uses is in the making of woodwind instruments,
including reeds. In the United States it is considered an Invasive Species to
the lower 48, and grows mostly in the warmer zones of the U.S., and in
close proximity to water sources.
Link to where it is grown, *just click on the state to get the counties
of the states that it's most problematic in:
http://plants.usda.g...le?symbol=ARDO4
More found about this reed plant here: http://www.invasives...giantreed.shtml
and of course in Wikipedia here -> http://en.wikipedia....ki/Arundo_donax
Grows in Texas and all the way up to Maryland as well, but doesn't grow well in the northern states
due to climate extremes lows temperature in winters.
Apparently we have an abundance of reed making plants right here in the United
States.
#2
Posted 02 January 2012 - 05:24 PM
Very informative post. I'm sure by now you know that our Captain MosJan is the Duduk officionado.
Hey Mos! What happened to Duduk.com?
We will follow and talk about that plant known as "reed/եղեգ", as well as the musical "reed" .
#3
Posted 04 January 2012 - 01:20 PM
Doing a little research on the reed plant that is used for making the reeds used
in the Armenian Duduk, I stumbled across some information on this plant. It is
known as Giant Reed, Spanish Reed and scientific name is Arundo Donax L. Grown
in Eurasia and Mediterranean areas, it was brought to America as early as the
1800's. One of it's many uses is in the making of woodwind instruments,
including reeds. In the United States it is considered an Invasive Species to
the lower 48, and grows mostly in the warmer zones of the U.S., and in
close proximity to water sources.
Link to where it is grown, *just click on the state to get the counties
of the states that it's most problematic in:
http://plants.usda.g...le?symbol=ARDO4
More found about this reed plant here: http://www.invasives...giantreed.shtml
and of course in Wikipedia here -> http://en.wikipedia....ki/Arundo_donax
Grows in Texas and all the way up to Maryland as well, but doesn't grow well in the northern states
due to climate extremes lows temperature in winters.
Apparently we have an abundance of reed making plants right here in the United
States.
Welcome to Hyeforum..
I can only tell you about duduk reed, not shvi or Blule , since we maker them form Apricot wood
it looks the same and might have the same scientific name, but sorry it's not the same material..
since 1996 we have tested many. even many of our customers have send material form e all over USA.. it looks good but it's no way the same quality.. if you found something that you think you like i'l be more then happy to make a reed for you, you can get hold of me at http://duduk.com, My Name is Movses
most 70% the reed material we use is from Artsax AKA Armenian Republic of Nagorno KArabagh ( not Armenia yet but soon ) , only Soft reed material is from Armenia, and even then most of it is not useful, since it's growing next or to close to Nuclear power station, or drainage pits. old Soviet Factory, Army BAss. you can see old battery and used tires in water + other garbage.. up to 85% reeds you find in the market for duduk are made of this material.. it never passes the basic lead or mercury test. if i cant see the location of the harvest i will not buy material.. don't have use for Toxic Metal..
after searching 3 years we only fund 2 lakes and 3 revers that Toxic test was not passetive & the material was good.. we make our Soft and extra soft duduk reed from this locations. The rest Pro or Professorial duduk reed Gyargyu Yegheg - is from Artsax AKA Armenian Republic of Nagorno KArabagh, we employ 3 people in Artsax to harvest the material, cut and age it, prefabricate the reeds for duduk.com only, it looks like this before fabrication, we import it each year
goog luck
MOvses
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 01:22 PM
#5
Posted 04 January 2012 - 02:57 PM
Nice Delmhorst moisture meter you have http://www.coastalto...orst/j-2000.htm but it won't give you any info other than moisture content. It doesn't analyze heavy metals, only moisture content. According to a study, the ones in the United States grown that were imported from Europe/Asia are one and the same as those found in the areas you mention.
#6
Posted 04 January 2012 - 03:21 PM
as for taxic tests Lead and mercury tests are conserned First Alert LT1 Premium Home Lead Test Kit or Mercury Check Water Test Kit are just some of the many basic products yo can use to test
#7
Posted 04 January 2012 - 08:20 PM
You are correct in that the Arundo donax, Giant Cane, does have the ability to uptake certain heavy metals and other undersirable pollutants into it's stem, so getting a source in clear water and streams would certainly be prudent. It does, however and more importantly where ever it is grown, also uptakes silica, and would depend on the amount of silica availabe in the soil, but it is what gives it some attributs to NOT be used as fodder for forage animals like cattle, and sheep since it (silica) can become a toxic accumulation in the stems.
These plants seem to have a unique ability to survive and thrive even when introduced outside their native habitat. This is what makes them so problematic in areas such as America, in that they really grow well, and have developed ways to keep 'their kind' well established in the world. Since they do not repoduce from seeds, the DNA transfers to each plant in an amost exacting match from plant to plant. Quite similar to the way that certain clone of Vitis vinifera, (wine grapes) have been carefully and systematically repoduced in 'like kind' from their origins in Germany, Fance, Spain and Italy to parts of the United States as well as other countries around the world. Through DNA testing and more specifically, in testing certain DNA markers within the range, we have isolated what we once only knew as Zinfandel in this country to have actually come from a vine in Croatia so many years ago. It's secret lost in the shuffle of plant material brought here so many years ago, now brought to light. Zinfandel is Crljenak from Croatia. BTW, I work as a winemaker in the wine industry here in Michigan, so cloning and plant specifis in DNA are a facinating study to me.
#8
Posted 05 January 2012 - 03:42 PM
#9
Posted 06 January 2012 - 08:31 PM
Edited by Gregorovich, 06 January 2012 - 08:31 PM.
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