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Posted 31 August 2013 - 12:14 PM

http://www.npr.org/b...ng-raw-chickens

 

Don't Panic! Your Questions On (Not) Washing Raw Chickens

by Maria Godoy

 

August 31, 2013 5:06 AM

 

Without meaning to, I seem to have sparked a "small #chickensh*tstorm," as food writer Michael Ruhlman , with my about why you shouldn't wash your raw poultry. The strong, even vituperative responses to the post surprised me. I didn't anticipate that Americans would be quite so passionate about poultry hygiene.

 

To be absolutely clear, the advice not to wash your chickens is longstanding. The U.S. Department of Agriculture has been cautioning against the practice for many years, and food safety experts widely agree it's a bad idea, because it raises the risk of spreading dangerous bacteria found on raw poultry all over your kitchen. As we told you before, food safety researchers say cooking your bird until it reaches an internal temperature of at least 165 degrees is the only thing you have to do to kill the bacteria found on raw birds.

Still, chicken washing is a part of most people's kitchen routine – including top chefs, many of whom recommend the practice in their TV shows and cookbooks. (My story used Julia Child as a famous example — though Jacques Pepin, we should note, publicly his good friend Child on the value of this habit.) And from comments on The Salt and elsewhere on the Internet, it's clear that many of you still have questions about what to do with your raw birds – or are just downright resistant to dropping the rinsing habit.

So, in an effort to clear the confusion and tamp down any panic, I've asked food safety researcher of Drexel University to help tackle some of the most frequently asked questions. Seriously, folks, there's no reason to freak out.

Is it safe for me to marinate, brine and/or kosher poultry before cooking to enhance the flavor?

Of course. Go ahead and prepare the chicken whichever way you like, Quinlan says, but be aware that any liquid you use – be it a marinade or whatever – will then be contaminated with dangerous bacteria. Treat it as such. Use the basic rule of "." In other words, use the same common-sense precautions that apply whenever you handle raw meat.

I rinse or marinate my chicken in a lime/lemon/or vinegar juice wash. Doesn't that kill the bacteria that might splash off the bird?

No, there's no reason to think that adding a bit of acid to your water will kill the pathogens present either in the rinse or on the chicken, Quinlan says. Marinate for taste, if you like, but not for safety. And treat the rinse or marinade as a contaminated product – throw it away with caution.

What if I run the faucet water very slowly when rinsing my chicken, and I always disinfect my countertops and kitchen sink thoroughly with bleach afterward? I should be fine, no?

Food safety researchers haven't really defined a "safe water speed" for rinsing raw poultry. Any time you introduce water or a rinse, you are disturbing the bacteria on the raw poultry and making it likelier that those buggies will fly off your meat and onto some other kitchen surface – or onto you. "I can't make you not take the risk, " Quinlan says, "but you need to know what you are dealing with." If you rinse your chicken out of safety concerns, just stop, she says, because you are making it less safe. If you are doing it to enhance flavor, that's fine, but use proper precautions.

Sometimes my chickens come with gross bits — specks of blood and whatnot – or they seem somewhat slimy after I've removed the giblets from inside. I know you say I shouldn't, but I can't imagine NOT rinsing the chicken in these cases, so I'm just going to keep on doing it.

"Try it once and see if it really makes a difference," Quinlan says. "And if you don't notice a taste difference, then all that time you spend washing and sanitizing — ask yourself why you're really spending time doing that."

Quinlan says some people have told her they rinse to remove the taste of chlorine from their birds. If that's the case, she says, "you need to change where you're getting your chicken." A chlorine smell, she says, might mean a bird was dunked in the stuff to make it last longer – so stay away from that butcher or vendor.

If I don't rinse the slime off chicken before I cook it, the meat will be too moist to brown properly. If I can't rinse the bird, what should I do?

"If that's really an issue, just take a dry paper towel and blot it off," Quinlan says. (This is one piece of Julia Child's poultry advice that you can safely follow, she says.) Wiping is better than rinsing, she says, because it doesn't agitate the bacteria on the bird in the same way.

Does this advice just apply to poultry? What about red meat or fish?

Yes, the same risks and cautions apply when it comes to rinsing meat, pork or fish, Quinlan says.

This is silly: If the problem with washing a chicken is that the splashing water gives bacteria a chance to hitch rides on water droplets, isn't it just as risky for me to wash my hands in the sink after handling the chicken?

"The difference is that you can't cook your hands – and soap and water really will wash most of the bacteria off of you," Quinlan says. The bacteria that ends up on your hands after handling raw poultry is just a tiny fraction of what's found on the bird itself, she says. "If you've thoroughly washed your hands for 20 seconds with warm water and soap, that should do the trick."

Conventionally raised chickens may come covered in dangerous bacteria, but I only buy organic chickens, so they've got to be safer, right?

There's no reason to think that organically raised chickens have less bacteria than those raised under conventional methods. And in fact, several studies have failed to find significant differences between the number of dangerous bacteria like salmonella and Campylobacter found on organically raised chickens and turkeys and those on conventionally raised birds.

The difference, of course, is that conventionally raised birds are treated with antibiotics. And studies have found that pathogens isolated from conventionally raised poultry are more likely to be antibiotic resistant than those isolated from organically raised birds.

 

 



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Posted 31 August 2013 - 12:14 PM

Julia Child Was Wrong: Don't Wash Your Raw Chicken, Folks

 

It seems almost sacrilegious to question the wisdom of Julia Child.

First with her opus Mastering the Art of French Cooking and later with her PBS cooking show, the unflappably cheerful Child helped rescue home cookery from the clutches of convenience food. She taught us how to love — and take pride in — making something from scratch.

And yet, in at least one important kitchen skill, Child got it dead wrong: rinsing raw poultry.

"I just think it's a safer thing to do," Child tells viewers in one clip from The French Chef in which she shows us the ins and outs of roasting chicken.

 

 

 

 

"Oh, no!" says Drexel University food safety researcher when I inform her that Child was in the pro-bird-washing camp. "I don't want to take on that."

Yet take on the doyenne of TV chefs she must. For Quinlan is on a mission to get America's home cooks to drop this widespread habit of washing poultry before cooking.

"There's no reason, from a scientific point of view, to think you're making it any safer," she says, "and in fact, you're making it less safe."

That's because washing increases the chances that you'll spread the foodborne pathogens that are almost certainly on your bird all over the rest of your kitchen too, food safety experts say. We're talking nasty stuff like salmonella and Campylobacter, which together are estimated to cause of foodborne illness in the U.S. each year.

Some studies suggest bacteria can fly up to from where your meat is rinsed — though you can't necessarily see it. If that thought alone doesn't give you pause, perhaps this slimy "germ vision" animation will do the trick:



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Posted 16 September 2013 - 03:02 PM

I have been washing chicken for years with no problem. With chicken there is the problem of the feeding in chicken-factories, not only the the GMO corn feed but the adds on in the feed to make it fatter like arsenic, in an article in Natural-News we read:

http://www.naturalne...l#ixzz2f1KmPavr

 

"here's something not being reported in the press. There is far more arsenic in conventionally-raised chicken than is currently being reported in rice. In 2011, even the FDA had to admit there was arsenic in chicken. You want to know why there's arsenic in chicken? Because chicken producers feed arsenic to chicken on purpose. It's all part of the corporate run factory chicken production system to maximize profits while compromising the health of the consumer."

 

So know what kind if chicken you are buying, factory made or farm made with natural feed. Arsenic gets accumulated in the skin and if do not sweat, like in running or going to sauna so that the toxins will flash out of your skin, you get sick, you even get cancer, skin cancer being one.






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