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[Arpa]

Maral's songsss.....

Let's have some fun.

How many songs do we know dedicated to Maral or songs that mention Maral?
First off do we know what maral means?
I'll give you a hint.
Let's begin with "Doe a deer a female deer...."

[Sip]

Does this count?

Hey Jan Maral Jan,
Hamov Hotov Maral Jan,
Hey Jan Maral Jan,
Hamov Hotov Maral Jan ...

I just came up with it!

[Arpa]

Oh! What a ddumglukh!
Sip, you do that one time and we'll place a pumpkin over your head and a ghapama over your mouth.
Very cute!

Ghapama means cover/kaparich.

Edited by Arpa, 23 June 2004 - 01:34 PM.

[Sip]

Well, thanks to you, I have that song stuck in my head now ... so I hope someone pops up with a Maral song and very soon. Either that, or "Amman Tello" but sung as "Maral Tello" ... doesn't make sense but has a nice ring and "Maral" is better than "Amman" anyway.

[ExtraHye]

How about this one...

There was a lady on HyeForum
Maral was her name Oh
M-A-R-A-L
M-A-R-A-L
M-A-R-A-L
Maral was her name OH!!!!!

[Sip]

Well, at least I have something else stuck in my head

[Arpa]

You mean- Old McMaral Had a Farm?

[Arpa]

Allright we'll begin.

I'll begin at the bottom.
By H. Badalian

Mer mov sarerin, garnan aravot,
Mi PAKHRA tesi katnaghbyuri mot.
Ijel er dzor@ mtits antarin,
Ou journ er khmum zulal aghbyurin.

I will explain what pakhra means under a topic in the language section. In the meantime here is a picture of a pakhra/bakhra;

http://wildwnc.org/af/images/deer2.jpg

Edited by Arpa, 23 June 2004 - 02:59 PM.

[Arpa]

Here is another one.
I can't find the words, so from memory.

Norits garoun ekav, norits annman.
........
Jeryrani pes, sarerov ekar ou antsar,
Mek barev eyir talis ayn el moratsar.

[nairi]

System of a Down - Deer Dance


Circumventing circuses
Lamenting in protest
To visible police
Presence sponsored fear
Battalions of riot police
With rubber bullet kisses
Baton courtesy
Service with a smile

Beyond the Staples Center you can see America
With its tired, poor, avenging disgrace
Peaceful, loving youth against the brutality
Of plastic existance

Pushing little children
With their fully automatics
They like to push the weak around
Pushing little children
With their fully automatics
They like to push the weak around

A rush of words
pleading to disperse
Upon your naked walls alive
A political call
The fall guy accord
We can't afford to be neutral on a moving train

Beyond the Staples Center you can see America
With its tired, poor, avenging disgrace
Peaceful loving youth against the brutality
Of plastic existance

Pushing little children
With their fully automatics
They like to push the weak around
Pushing little children
With their fully automatics
They like to push the weak around

Push them around

A deer dance
Invitation to peace
War staring you in the face
Dressed in black
With a helmet, fierce
Trained and appropiate for the malcontents
For the disproportioned malcontents
The little boy smiled.
It'll all be well
The little boy smiled
It'll all be well

Pushing little children
With their fully automatics
They like to push the weak around
Pushing little children
With their fully automatics
They like to push the weak around
Pushing little children
With their fully automatics
They like to push the weak around
Push the weak around
Push the weak around
Push the weak around
They like to push the weak around

[koko]

vai maralo im yari boyin mernem
ay maralo im yari boyin mernem

maralo, hye maralo maralo, maralo, sari agchiki taralo
I dont know the lyrics as you can see. its a great dance-song though ...

[Arpa]

Nairi got the gist of the topic.
Did the System have Maral in mind?

Here is another.
Are you following as to how many synonyms there are to Maral?

Aydsiam by Gusan Jivani
(I don't know the tune to this)

Anhog es, ches giter inch ka qo masin,
Pttvum en qo kheghj andzin vnasin,
Gamprnerov, baraknerov miasin.
....
4 more verses.
Pakhir, aydziam, pakhir, vorskann e galis,
Dazguknert tkhur, lalis en lalis.

[nairi]

Did the System have Maral in mind?

I don't know. Seems like it..

[Arpa]

Btw. Does Maral know that they have named a town for her in Armenia?
Well, they must have named it some time ago when she was a little girl.
It is located south of Gumri.
Does anyone know its name?

Yeghniki Pes by Gusan Havasi

Al yeresd ala e,
Batsvadz karmir lala e,
Nayvatskd siroun aghjik,
Glkhud dard ou bala e.

Yeghniki pes dzur mi ashi siroun jan,
Jahel em kyanqs mi mashi siroun jan.
Yeghniki pes dzur mi ashi ay aghjik,
Jahel em kyanqs mi mashi jan aghjik.
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Can we guess what the finale will be?

[nairi]

Might be interesting to know that the Middle Dutch word for "heart" was "hert". Now it's "hart" and "hert" means "deer".

Here's our national anthem, in both Middle Dutch (left column) and Modern Dutch (right column):

http://www.wilhelmus.nl/tekst.html

You'll notice that it's an acrostic that spells out 'Willem van Nassov', better known as William I of Orange (b. Dillenburg 4/25/1533 - d. Delft 7/10 1584). At the beginning of the song, in italics, it says "A new Christian song". The anthem was written by Marnix van Sint-Aldegonde in 1568 to unify the Dutch against the Spanish Inquisition (or so it is believed). The main controversy is over the first four lines which say:

Wilhelmus of Nassau
I am, of German blood
Loyal to my fatherland
I shall remain to death.

The German blood causes a bit of pain even though our crown-prince is 3/4 German! His child is half Argentinian..

If you haven't watched Euro 2004, here's what you'll hear at the beginning of each match with Holland:

http://www.wilhelmus...Netherlands.mid

[bellthecat]

I have no idea what this topic is about.

[Arpa]

I'm sure many of us know this song.

By Tatul Altunian.

Maral, maral, marali pes man k'ougas,
Bardz@ dnem, khalu vra yan k'ougas.

Sirun aghjik naz ounes,
Maral, maral....
Sokhaki parvaz ounes,
Bardz@ dnem khalu vra yan k'ougas.

Mi yar ounem anush a,
Maral, maral....
Anush a tarlan ghush a,
Bardz@ dnem, khalu vra yan k'ougas.

Lusnak@ nor e, nor e,
Maral, maral....
Yaris yeres@ klor e,
Bardz@ dnem, khalu vra yan k'ougas.

Lusnak gisher, hovn anush,
Maral, maral....
Srtov sirats yarn anush,
Bardz@ dnem, khalu vra yan k'ougas.

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Yes,Steve, it does not make sense.
I hinted in my first post when I wrote; "Doe, a deer, a female deer...."
Maral means deer and all the songs above were for and about deer in several different synonyms.
We are not the only people using the word as a feminine name, Turks do too, except that they spell it as Meral, and they also recognize the word to mean deer/gazelle.

Next will be the grand finale with a Komitas classic.

[nairi]

Next will be the grand finale with a Komitas classic.

I knew he would have written something about deers! I'm curious now!

[Arpa]

And now the Grand Finale.
The classic by Komitas.

Akh maral jan,
Kokon@s tormats mnats,
Jan, gyaral jan,
Sirt@s krakats mnats.

Akh, maral jan,
Inch anem im aprel@,
Jan, gyaral jan,
Im achqer@ tats mnats.

Kamar ounq@d govetsir,
Sirel eyir stetsir,Indz pes ouzhov ktrichin
Du andanalk mortetsir.

Jahel em, @nker chounem,
@nkel em, yes ter chounem,
Voch lav tesq, voch el vat,
Harstutyan ser chounem.

I have no idea what "gyaral" means, it is probably used just as a rhyme.
Btw. You can find this song on the internet. Just use any part or all of the phrase as a keyword.

[Arpa]

I knew he would have written something about deers! I'm curious now!

I didn't know this but Komitas has another piece called Marali. It is not a song, it is a piano piece, a dance tune from Shushi.