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#41 yergatuni1

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Posted 05 May 2009 - 07:23 PM

Obama might be a friend of Armenians but he like the rest of the US government are waiting to see what becomes of the Armenian-turkish road-map. The turks say a 'commission' on the Genocide is in the works and the Armenian government has not said anything to the contrary. this will torpedo our efforts if it does happen, it makes our work here in the US that much harder to get recognition (almost impossible), so right now alot depends on what the Armenian governnment does, recognition doesn't depend on Obama that much at this point.....

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 09:41 PM

QUOTE (shiner @ May 5 2009, 12:26 AM)
I mean that Armenians are just as likely as any other group to fall for a politician's rhetoric. With every election cycle Armenians get worked up about someone promising to recognize the genocide; and then when the candidate gets in office he doesn't.

Obama wants to have his cake and eat it too, and it's working. First he promises recognition of the genocide, then he takes office and comes up with " my personal views have not changed " , "I'm interested in the facts" etc. , and Armenians are still waiting. They will probably be waiting for 4 or 8 more years. And then there will be another cycle with another politician and the result will be the same.

Obama's words are nothing more then well crafted politically correct statements.

I thought your post was also pointing this out because it had a very skeptical tone whereas many Armenians truly believe Obama is gonna do a whole lot.


Ok - that's what I thought, and that was exactly what I was getting at. However, I would not describe my view as skeptical exactly.
I'm actually rather conflicted - part of me is truly inspired by Obama's words and really wants to believe that he will be the catalyst to AG recognition in the US. Everything he's done so far points in this direction. It's perhaps too much to expect him to bring about that kind of foreign policy change just a few mere months into his mandate.

The other part of me feels, sadly enough, that I'm simply a member of the "masses" you previously referred to - far to eager to fall for a well crafted words of a politician. At least he's particularly gifted politician this time...

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 01:00 AM

QUOTE (vava @ May 8 2009, 03:41 AM)
Ok - that's what I thought, and that was exactly what I was getting at. However, I would not describe my view as skeptical exactly.
I'm actually rather conflicted - part of me is truly inspired by Obama's words and really wants to believe that he will be the catalyst to AG recognition in the US. Everything he's done so far points in this direction. It's perhaps too much to expect him to bring about that kind of foreign policy change just a few mere months into his mandate.

The other part of me feels, sadly enough, that I'm simply a member of the "masses" you previously referred to - far to eager to fall for a well crafted words of a politician. At least he's particularly gifted politician this time...


I see. Well, I hope I'm wrong about Obama. Maybe he will do the unexpected afterall, but I am skeptical.

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Posted 17 July 2009 - 06:27 PM

What about our women?

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U.S. policy on Africa `won't change under Obama'

The Natal Witness Group (KwaZulu Natal, South Africa)
16 July 2009

By Stephen Coan


Speaking at Chamber House yesterday, Jill Derderian, U.S. Consul-General
in Durban, said that U.S. policy towards Africa under President Barack
Obama's administration is not substantially different from that of his
predecessor, George W. Bush.

`There is not major change, still a lot of continuity to look forward
to,' Derderian said, addressing members of the South African Institute
of International Affairs (SAIIA) and the Pietermaritzburg Chamber of
Commerce on change, perceived or otherwise, under the Obama administration.

Derderian quoted from an early Bush position on Africa that regarded
African leaders as equal partners, asking that they set clear goals with
measurable results and good governance. She said Bush had also created
several initiatives that made a big impact on Africa, not least in the
field of HIV/Aids.

`During the Bush administration, the financial assistance to Africa went
up significantly,' Derderian said. In 2001, it was $1,3 billion
(R10,55?billion), which rose to $5,6Tbillion in 2008. In 2010, it will
be $8,7 million.

Many of the previous administration's positions were echoed by Obama in
a speech given in Accra during his recent visit to Ghana. He emphasised
democracy, the generation of wealth and peaceful resolution to conflict.
`He also placed an emphasis on good governance. He said `Africa doesn't
need `strong men', it needs strong institutions.'?'

`The U.S. wants to partner with Africa, but it's not a one-way street,'
Derderian said. `His heritage obviously makes him a son of Africa, but
he's also a son of the world. One South African newspaper referred to
his approach as `tough love'.'

Derderian had no definite date for when Obama might come to SA. `I don't
know. We hope next yearŠ'

She was optimistic about the future relationship between the U.S. and
South Africa and said she is looking forward to 2010 ' `we both have
strong teams to be excited about'.


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Posted 20 April 2010 - 03:18 PM

Also see the linguistics of the word here;
http://hyeforum.com/...=1
Call me an idiot, call me anything but don’t forget to call me a “prophet” too.
http://www.panorama....ocide-exern/?sw

SAYING 'YEGHERN', IN FACT, BARACK OBAMA RECOGNIZED ARMENIAN GENOCIDE
Panorama.am
20/04/2010
Armenian "Solidarity" Movement and Party addressed a thank-you letter
to US President Barack Obama last year after the President used the
term "Yeghern" in his April 24 address, the "Solidarity" chairman
Sargis Avetisyan told reporters today.
The party has addressed another
letter to the US President this year, calling on him to make a brave
step and pronounce the term "Genocide" and recognize the Great Yegern
of the Armenians to restore the historical truth and justice.

"Saying Holocaust the world understands the Genocide of Jews, while
Yeghern should be the term to be used for the Armenian Genocide," S.

Avetisyan said. According to the leader, the Turkish "National
Movement" Party has raised the issue saying by pronouncing the term
"Yeghern", in fact, Barack Obama has recognized the Armenian Genocide.
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«Եղեռն ասելով ողջ աշխարհում պիտի հասկանան Հայոց Ցեղասպանություն»
«Համերաշխություն» շարժումը և կուսակցությունն անցյալ տարի ԱՄՆ նախագահ Բարաք Օբամային դիմել էին շնորհակալական նամակով, այն բանից հետո, երբ նախագահը ապրիլի 24-ի իր ուղերձում Ցեղասպանության բառի փոխարեն հայերեն Եղեռն բառն էր օգտագործել: Այս մասին այսօրվա ասուլիսում հայտարարեց շարժման և կուսակցության նախագահ Սարգիս Ավետիսյանը: Այս տարի ևս «Համերաշխությունը» ԱՄՆ նախագահին նամակ է հղել` հորդորելով խիզախ քայլ կատարել և արտասանել Ցեղասպանություն բառը, պատմական արդարության վերականգման նպատակով ճանաչել Հայոց մեծ Եղեռնը:
Ըստ Ս. Ավետիսյանի հարկավոր էր, որ մեր դիվանագիտությունն օգտագործեր այն հանգամանքը, որ Բարաք Օբաման հայերեն արտասանեց Եղեռն բառը.
«Ինչպես Հոլոքոստ ասելով ամբողջ աշխարհում հասկանում են հրեաների Ցեղասպանություն, այնպես էլ Եղեռն ասելով աշխարհում պիտի հասկանան Հայոց Ցեղասպանություն»,-ասաց
Ս. Ավետիսյանը: Բանախոսը նկատեց, որ թուրքական խորհրդարանում «Ազգային շարժում» կուսակցությունը վեր էր հանել այս հարցը, որ Բարաք Օբաման հայերեն Եղեռն բառն արտասանելով` փաստորեն ճանաչել է Ցեղասպանությունը:

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In addition, as above I urged us to be more circumspect, not only us as individuals but also our institutions that attacked the President relentlessly for not using the G word. The man is a “freshman” gradually learning the tricks of the trade. Besides, he has so much on his plate that will make any of us get dizzy and throw up. Coming back to “learning”, why don’t WE TEACH HIM THE ARMENIAN LANGUAGE instead of him learning it at U of ankara????

Edited by Arpa, 20 April 2010 - 04:22 PM.





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