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#1 Yervant1

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 09:30 AM

ARE CONTEMPORARY TURKS ARMENIAN?

Editorial, 21 September 2013

A number of studies of genetics, in the past decade, includingseveral
by Armenian scientists, have concluded that the DNA of modern Turks
has an extremely high percentage of Armenian DNA. Other geneticists
say that less than 10% of Turkey's population has Central Asian/Mongol
origins and that 90% of Turkish ancestry is a genetic cocktail. Others
have gone so far as to wonder whether most Turks of Turkey are
acculturated Armenians (same genetic structure) and that Turks of
Turkey are the only people in the world who have completely changed
their genetic pool from Turkic to that of Asia Minor and the Balkans.

We have no idea as to the validity of the above research or
conclusions. Even if the research is based on solid science,
Armenians-and Turks-might well ask: "So what?" In the affairs of
nations, genetics is not destiny. Politics, economics, culture, and
values weigh heavier as identifiers. These drive state and national
relationships between people, not genetics.

In the past decade Dutch geneticists have deduced that Jews of Israel,
Arabs of Israel and Arabs of West Bank have similar genes. They said
that Palestinian Arabs were Jews who had converted to Islam when the
Arab armies of the Arabian Peninsula conquered the Middle East in the
7th century. Jews and Arabs gave short shrift to the Dutch findings:
even if they are related, the alleged commonality of their genes
couldn't, wouldn't impact their political relationship.

Byzantium had more than a score of Armenian emperors and countless
military leaders. As far as the Armenian nation is concerned, they
might as well have been Albanian, Macedonian or even Turk. Genetically
Armenian, they acted Byzantine, thus mostly hostile to Armenians.

Celebrated "French" author Henri Troyat presented himself as an exiled
White Russian who wrote biographies of Tsars and celebrated Russian
writers. He revealed his Armenian identity (Tarassian) late in his
life. He didn't contribute anything to our nation...an Armenian
who hid under the cloak of White Russian and wrote in French about
Russian greats.

Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov is half-Armenian,
half-Russian. For all intents and purposes, he might be 100% Russian.

He acts on behalf of Russia, as he should. Napoleon Bonaparte was
Italian-born (real name Nabuleone di Buonaparte), but as a French
emperor he invaded his homeland and looted Italian Renaissance art,
including the "Mona Lisa". General Dwight D. Eisenhower, the head of
the Allied armies in World War II, was of German origin. Irving Berlin,
the man who wrote the iconic "God Bless America", "White Christmas" and
"Easter Parade" was a Jew born in Russia, and although some Americans
believe Christopher Columbus was Spanish, the "discoverer" of America
was Italian (real name Cristoforo Colombo) born in Genoa. Ataturk's
adopted daughter was an Armenian orphan. As a pilot in the Turkish
air force, she bombed Alevis and Armenians in Dersim in the late '30s.

Andrei Solzhenitsyn, the Russian novelist, wrote: "Russian nationality
is not about blood but abut spirit. The greatness of our people is
to be sought in the inner development in its breath and soul...all
those who feel themselves part of this heritage in spirit are true
Russians." Many Armenians would echo the same sentiments about their
identity and might go one better and say: "Armenian is as Armenian
does." What matters is what we do; how we live.

Going back to the findings of the geneticists, no Armenian would be
surprised to hear that many Turks have Armenian blood. Starting with
the Turkic invasions of Armenia in the 10th century and continuing for
the next thousand years-to be finally topped by the Genocide-Turks not
only conquered and pillaged our land, they also looted our culture,
and committed genetic theft through forcible conversion, through
assimilation, by stealing Armenian women and girls, and by telling
many Armenian orphans of the Genocide that their parents were killed
by the Gavoor Armenians.

While Turks have Armenian blood (double entendre intended), Armenians
have very little-if any--Turkish blood. Turkish genetic theft and
Armenian endogamy explain why it is so. Unless coerced, Armenians-with
few exceptions-don't marry Muslim Turks.

We doubt that the geneticists-Armenian and non-Armenian-have
a political agenda. However, their conclusions are prone to
trivialization and to political exploitation.

Turkish propagandists could tell Armenians: "Since we are brothers,
let's bury the hatchet...". Turkish propagandists might tell the world
the Armenian/Turkish quarrel is fratricide, not genocide. Turkish
propagandists might tell Armenians: "Stop calling us Seljuk and Ottoman
brigands from Central Asia. We are as indigenous to Asia Minor like
you." Turkish propagandists might tell Armenians: "Why do you demand
lands in Asia Minor? They are already yours. Turks, who are, in fact,
Armenian, are living in the lands of our mutual ancestors...they are
even fighting the trespassing Kurds."

Only last year, Ahmet Davutoglu, the foreign minister of Turkey,
described the Armenian descendants of the Genocide as members of the
Turkish Diaspora.

One thing about "Mehmet, My Brother", it never pays to underestimate
his chicanery and duplicity. He can't be Armenian.

http://www.keghart.c...temporary-Turks

 



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Posted 25 September 2013 - 07:05 AM

Good find Yervant. Food for thought, many passages may best be described as points to ponder, beginning with the opening paragraph. See highlights below.

 


A number of studies of genetics, in the past decade, including several by Armenian scientists, have concluded that the DNA of modern Turks has an extremely high percentage of Armenian DNA. Other geneticists say that less than 10% of Turkey’s population has Central Asian/Mongol origins and that 90% of Turkish ancestry is a genetic cocktail. Others have gone so far as to wonder whether most Turks of Turkey are acculturated Armenians (same genetic structure) and that Turks of Turkey are the only people in the world who have completely changed their genetic pool from Turkic to that of Asia Minor and the Balkans

 

To me this is the proverbial Pandora’s Box, **, where we may see artifacts we don’t like. This subject deserves a whole separate topic. My suggestion would be ISOLATIONISM (us) and UVIVERSALISM (them), going all the way to the Council of Nicea.***

**Pandora’s Box

http://en.wikipedia....i/Pandora's_box

***

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea

http://www.armeniapedia.org/index.php?title=Armenian_Apostolic_Church

 


Edited by Arpa, 25 September 2013 - 07:18 AM.





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