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[man]

Those who remember, Gorbachev was the man in charge when the big 1988 earthquak happened in Armenia, he pledged monetary help but not a kopek was received from his adminstration; he hated the Armenians because they were nationalist inclined, Gorbachev being strongly against nationalism. He ordered Russian troops in Artsakh and Azerbaijan to help the Aseris against the Armenians. Had he remained in power and was not toppled by Yeltsin who hated the Tartars --Artsakh and Armenia proper would have vanished from the map of the world in favor of the Azeri Tartar Turks.

 

I read this article yesterday in Speigel of Germany:

http://www.spiegel.d...e-a-915670.html

 

A 'Traitor'? Wave of Hate Follows False Story of Gorbachev's Death

 

It was Wednesday (8 Aug 2013) evening when the state-run news agency RIA Novosti in Moscow announced the death of Mikhail Gorbachev on its German language micro-blog and on one of its Twitter accounts.

 

The news was unexpected. While Gorbachev is now 82 years old, he is not at death's door. And it didn't take long before it became clear that the story was wrong. Gorbachev himself said in a statement that he is "alive and well"

 

For RIA Novosti, the incident is embarrassing. The agency said that the story was deleted after a mere five minutes

 

But it has become notable just how often Gorbachev, the last leader of the Soviet Union, has been pronounced dead in the Russian media in recent months. Similar rumors of his demise swirled through the country in June. And in May 2012, his death was posted on Gorbachev's English-language Wikipedia entry, from which it rapidly spread through social media and made it into the news.

 

That, though, is not entirely accurate as was made clear once again on Wednesday. Despite the erroneous story of his death being quickly deleted after 5 minutes of posting, it triggered a wave of comments across the country -- a wave of hate. It was a mixture of political contempt, hostile invective and incomprehensible insults. Most of them centered on Gorbachev's central political accomplishment..

 

A Soul Full of Hate

Almost every second entry on the site mail.ru included the word "traitor" in reference to Gorbachev. One woman wrote that he sold the Soviet Union for "30 pieces of silver" and that he is richer than oligarch billionaire Roman Abramovitch.

Another contributed a rhetorical question. "Is it easy to live as a traitor who is hated by the entire country?" A third, at least, wished him a longer life -- so that "the people can pass judgement on him in a court of law." And a fourth showed a sense of humor. Gorbachev will never die, he wrote, because the devil is afraid that "hell would then collapse as well."

 

 

Most of the rest of the comments were below the belt. "What a shame he didn't really die," for example. "He should be run over with a steamroller." Or: "Die, you dog, die as quickly as possible." Another read: "His days are numbered and his death will be a celebration." Still another: "We will come to his burial to spit on his coffin."

 

Not all of the entries were insulting. One message read: "I wish you many long years of life, Mikhail Sergeyevich. It is great that you brought the hollow USSR to collapse." But it was almost completely drowned out by the vile.

 

It wasn't long before the comments, just like the news story, were deleted. Comments on erroneous news stories are forbidden, read a message on the site. But for just a few hours, a window opened up through which one could see into the Russian soul. And it is a soul full of hate for Mikhail Gorbachev.

[Armenak]

I don't think he necessarily hated Armenians... Armenia was still a Soviet republic and two of his advisers were of Armenian descent (Abel Aganbegyan and Georgy Shakhnazarov). But he, like most of the "international community" today, favored territorial integrity because granting Artsakh independence would have set a dangerous precedent for his pet project, which was to establish a reformed union where there would be "socialism with a human face."

 

Of course Russians would dislike him. The country became (and remains) a cesspool after the collapse but not all of that was Gorbachev's doing. He's just an easy target.

[man]

He might not have hated the Armenians (at least openly) but he hated racism and wanted to see racism eliminated from Russia and he defended the blacks in Soviet Union more than the Armenians themselves; his policy was a total failur as Yelestin brought back nationaslm back to Russia.

 

Gorbachev's having two Armenian advisors proves nothing as he had such advisors from all other countries in the Soviet Union and he is not obligated to do what his advisores say. At 1988 earthquake he came to Armenia, he cursed the Armenians saying what kind of people are those since they refuse the orphanes from the earthquake to be adopted by Russians in Russia. He always looked to adult Armenians as labores and servants to be brought to Russia to build that country with their hard manial labor and nothing more, Armenians were Gorbachev's slaves in Russia in his eyes. When he came to Armenia in 1988 for the earthquake he promised eathquake relief from Moscow, well not a cent was sent for earthquake relief and that reflected what was really in Gorbachev's heart and not what he was prentending in the open.

 

Gorbachev's policy toward Armenia and Artsakh was total failur and Artsakh was never a part of Azerbaijan during Soviet time, Artsakh was an authonomos republic/province administered from Moscow with local affairs adminstration left to Baku. There was NO TERRITORIAL INTEGRITY to be violated in Arsakh's case. So Gorbachev could easly reversed the situation and decreed that Artsakh will be adminstrated in local affairs once more by Armenia as was before 1922. The result of Gorbachev's stuborness was bloodshed all over the area, a normal result for a man that has never the fear of God in him and is swarn atheist.