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#61 Anoushik

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Posted 22 November 2004 - 02:17 AM

QUOTE (Harut @ Nov 22 2004, 12:00 AM)
yev hisus yekav yev asats` "sireq mimiants, qanzi sern e, vor kprki ashxarh@. sirir merdzavorit, bayts "chsires" merdzavorit knoj@. dranits lav hoter chi galis".

Whoever came up with Jesus's character knew that humanity needs love to have hope and to not despair.

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Posted 22 November 2004 - 02:21 AM

QUOTE (anoushik @ Nov 22 2004, 02:17 AM)
Whoever came up with Jesus's character knew that humanity needs love to have hope and to not despair.


It was God Anoushik smile.gif

#63 Anoushik

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Posted 22 November 2004 - 02:25 AM

I meant whatever human person, or group of people, the founders of the church, etc... smile.gif

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Posted 22 November 2004 - 03:56 AM

An atheist is a pragmatist most often. There is your answer to the bickering about love.

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Posted 22 November 2004 - 10:40 AM

I don't believe in true love, but I hope it exists. Does that make me an agnostic or what? tongue.gif Those who believe in true love unknowingly accept that there is such a thing as circumstance of fate or "divine intervention". How about that Anoushik? biggrin.gif

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Posted 22 November 2004 - 04:49 PM

QUOTE (Armen @ Nov 22 2004, 03:21 AM)
It was God Anoushik smile.gif

Anoushik, listen to Armen, he knows what he is talking about smile.gif Seriously.

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Posted 22 November 2004 - 05:36 PM

QUOTE (anoushik @ Nov 22 2004, 02:17 AM)
Whoever came up with Jesus's character knew that humanity needs love to have hope and to not despair.

QUOTE (armen @ Nov 22 2004,)
It was God Anoushik

QUOTE (sasun @ Nov 22 2004)
Anoushik, listen to Armen, he knows what he is talking about  Seriously.

chisht en asum smile.gif

btw, votkes barov lini dzer ankyunin Anileve smile.gif, bayts yes shat chem xosa, vaxenumem hehe

#68 Anoushik

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Posted 23 November 2004 - 12:23 AM

QUOTE (Sasun @ Nov 22 2004, 02:49 PM)
Anoushik, listen to Armen, he knows what he is talking about smile.gif Seriously.

How does he know? How do you know?

#69 Armen

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Posted 23 November 2004 - 12:34 AM

QUOTE (anoushik @ Nov 23 2004, 12:23 AM)
How does he know? How do you know?


Anoushik jan, when Sasun tells you to listen to someone, listen to what Sasun says tongue.gif smile.gif

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Posted 23 November 2004 - 09:17 AM

QUOTE (Stormig @ Nov 22 2004, 03:56 AM)
An atheist is a pragmatist most often. There is your answer to the bickering about love.


Experience showed me this is untrue, it may be true in your cases, but the majority of atheists I have frequented are not pragmatists. I would rather say, agnostics are most often pragmatists. smile.gif

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Posted 23 November 2004 - 09:22 AM

QUOTE (Domino @ Nov 23 2004, 04:17 PM)
Experience showed me this is untrue, it may be true in your cases, but the majority of atheists I have frequented are not pragmatists. I would rather say, agnostics are most often pragmatists.  smile.gif


Amen to that brother! Agnosticism is the thinking man's religion. smile.gif

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Posted 23 November 2004 - 01:11 PM

QUOTE (anoushik @ Nov 23 2004, 01:23 AM)
How does he know?

He just knows.
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How do you know?

I just know.

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#73 DominO

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Posted 23 November 2004 - 01:20 PM

QUOTE (Nakharar @ Nov 23 2004, 09:22 AM)
Amen to that brother! Agnosticism is the thinking man's religion. smile.gif


Agnosticism and multiversism are not religions, atheism is. smile.gif

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Posted 23 November 2004 - 01:44 PM

QUOTE (Domino @ Nov 23 2004, 01:20 PM)
Agnosticism and multiversism are not religions, atheism is.  smile.gif


All above are variations of feeling cool smile.gif

#75 Sasun

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Posted 23 November 2004 - 02:05 PM

QUOTE (Armen @ Nov 23 2004, 02:44 PM)
All above are variations of feeling cool smile.gif

You are a wise man thumbsup.gif I was looking for a proper word for such things but could not find. "Feeling cool" describes it the best. Sort of a "superior" way of competing with "stupid" religions.

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Posted 23 November 2004 - 02:10 PM

Sasun jan, but they can say the same about us unless we keep it to ourselves smile.gif Don't know ... What do you think. Do we want to feel cool as well?

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Posted 23 November 2004 - 02:18 PM

QUOTE (Armen @ Nov 23 2004, 03:10 PM)
Sasun jan, but they can say the same about us unless we keep it to ourselves smile.gif Don't know ... What do you think. Do we want to feel cool as well?


Armen jan, I see your point. It may look like feeling cool if one just keeps talking and talking, perhaps we are doing that same wrong thing. But being truly spritual or religious is neither easy nor cool, unlike what some bogus theories will tell.

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Posted 23 November 2004 - 02:41 PM

QUOTE (Sasun @ Nov 23 2004, 02:18 PM)
Armen jan, I see your point. It may look like feeling cool if one just keeps talking and talking, perhaps we are doing that same wrong thing. But being truly spritual or religious is neither easy nor cool, unlike what some bogus theories will tell.


We could also think about it in terms of constant search vs stagnation. We all know that our body and emotions exist and we explore them all the time. We are not sure if the spirit exists. However, we sould never stop exploring the possibility of its existence.

One note about athesim. It is one of the states of mind one needs to expore the existence of God. If you can realy meditate and picture the real atheist world in your imagination it will be very easy to find the sub-conscious contrast, The God. In other words if you pacify your thoughts to the point where you find the absolute nothingness the idea of "God alive" becomes more and more evident.

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Posted 23 November 2004 - 02:51 PM

QUOTE (anileve @ Nov 21 2004, 03:03 AM)
I am numbed ... by repression of passion.


Eve, Nazism is a passion too. Killing emotionally is not that much different from killing physically. Passion has a scale and once you get tired of one stage you move to another. It amplifies all the time. You will get tired of one man, than you will get tired of two men, than a group of men, than you will get tired of stick and carrot and move to a girl. And you will get tired of her too ... Pray to die at that moment not to move to the other steps...

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Posted 23 November 2004 - 03:35 PM

QUOTE (Armen @ Nov 23 2004, 01:44 PM)
All above are variations of feeling cool smile.gif


I don't understand.




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