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Posted 24 August 2010 - 08:11 AM

Mosques and Cathedrals.
What do you think?
Islamic center in NY?
Religious freedom?
Of late the hottest topic is the planned so called Islamic center in NY right next to the hallowed ground zero of of the World Trade Center.
And as a sideline some people are questioning Pres. Obama’s religion despite the fact that he has professed to be Christian on several occasions. So much so that some are interpreting his comment of “no comment” a tacit approval, and that he is in fact a “closet Moslem”.
The ongoing hot debate is that the so called center should not be built, or in the least built some place else. While some bleeding heart liberals are debating that Islam is a religion of peace, and that this is America, the Land of religious freedom.
A short time ago the majority opinion was that America is a Christian country.
If America is a country of religious freedom (I.e freedom from religion), then why the likes of atheist Madalyn Murray O'Hair were publicly persecuted and virtually tarred and feathered, crucified :oops:
Getting back to an Islamic center in NY.
When was a new church built in Iran furkey and other Islamic countries?
Speaking of Islamic tolerance! A church in Saudia?
Can we build a Christian cathedral in Mecca?
Do pigs fly?
How about building a Christian cathedral right next to the mosque in Mecca?

Time Magazine reports that negotiations are currently underway between the government of Saudi Arabia and the Vatican, about the possibility of opening the first Christian church in the Kingdom. At this time, Islam is the "official" religion of Saudi Arabia, and the only one permitted to be worshipped publicly.
Some people argue that freedom of religion should prevail, and that Muslims should reciprocate the freedom of religion enjoyed in non-Muslim countries. Others hold that Saudi Arabia is the center of Islamic history and culture, and therefore Islam should have special status in the Kingdom

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 10:01 AM

And islam is a tolerant religion?
Where is the pope, head, the CAPO of the Christian world and his ragtag Crusaders?. Never mind. They were decimated over a thousand years ago, and it seems they will be decapitated again.
Europe: Mosques increasingly not welcome in Europe - IslamiCity.com.

"We already have more than 6,000 mosques in Europe, which are not only a place ... "Truthfully speaking, we don't need so many mosques," says Irfan al-Alawi,

For that matter. How many churches in assrael? The ones in Jerusalem dont count . They are in Palestine.
How many new churches have been built in furkey/asserbokhjan?
Absurdity has no limits. Yeah, yeah. We know all about cathedrals in Pasadena And Yakutsk
Do you know where Yakutsk is? I dont. ** What the **** in Aramazt name do w have business there? Remember? When there was a time when we were forcibly banished to Siberia? Hi Abovian, Mahari, Yessayan et al
If our aim is to freeze to death, go to Gumri and Lori in the winter.
http://asbarez.com/1... (Asbarez News)

photo, Saudi King Abdullah speaks before a meeting with U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry at his private residence in the Red Sea city of Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. (AP Photo/Brendan Smialowski, Pool, File)
Dozens of Christians arrested at a prayer meeting in Saudi Arabia need America's help, according to a key lawmaker who is pressing the State Department on their behalf.
Some 28 people were rounded up Friday by hard-line Islamists from the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice in the home of an Indian national in the eastern Saudi city of Khafji, and their current situation is unknown, according to human rights advocates. "Saudi Arabia is continuing the religious cleansing that has always been its official policy,"
Nina Shea, director of the Washington-based Hudson Institutes Center for Religious Freedom, told FoxNews.com. "It is the only nation state in the world with the official policy of banning all churches. This is enforced even though there are over 2 million Christian foreign workers in that country. Those victimized are typically poor, from Asian and African countries with weak governments."
In Friday's crackdown, several Bibles were confiscated, according to reports from the Kingdom.
Rep. Frank Wolf, R-Va, told FoxNews.com he will press the U.S. ambassador in Riyadh and the State Department to assist the arrested Christians.
I hope our government will speak up, said Wolf, adding that the anti-Christian raid was not surprising given that the Saudi regime did not want our soldiers to wear crosses during the Desert Storm operation in 1991 to stop Iraqi jingoism.
A spokeswoman for Saudi Arabias embassy press officer, Nail Al-Jubeir, in Washington, told FoxNews.com that Mr. Jubeir has nothing on that [arrests of Christians]. She suggested calling the Saudi Gazette newspaper.
The English-language paper Saudi Gazette, along with Saudi Arabic-language news outlets, published a news item about the mass arrests.
An article posted on the Arabic-language news website Akhbar 24 said the arrests came after the Kingdom's religious police got a tip about a home-based church. The report further noted that distorted writings of the Bible were found and musical instruments, noting their referral to the jurisdictional institutions.
The Saudi media reported different compositions of the arrested Christians. Some reports said the Christians were men and women, while the Saudi Gazette wrote that children, as well as men and women, were detained. It was unclear if a court date has been set in the notoriously opaque fundamentalist court system.
Saudi Arabia has gone to great lengths over the years to re-brand its image as a tolerant advocate of multi-religious dialogue. The arch-conservative monarchy funded the Vienna-based King Abdullah International Center for Interfaith and Intercultural Dialogue. Nevertheless, critics argue, Saudi Arabias Islamist religious police continue to expunge any trace of Christianity within its territory.
Saudi Arabias King Abdullah appears to be tied up in knots because of his conflicting messages to the international community about religious diversity.
"Such actions are especially dangerous in the current situation, where the world is seeing the rise of extreme Islamist groups in Iraq, Syria, Nigeria, Somalia and elsewhere," Shea said. "The West should demand that its strategic ally, Saudi Arabia, release the Christians at once and allow them to pray according to their own faith traditions. Otherwise, Riyadh will appear to be validating the practices of the Islamic State in northern Iraq and Syria.
Secretary of State John Kerry is slated to visit Saudi Arabia on Tuesday to marshal support to combat the radical Islamic State terror organization. It was unclear if Kerry plans to raise the arrests of the Christians. On Tuesday, State Department spokeswoman Jen Pskai said she was not aware of the arrests, but pledged to look into the reports.
Benjamin Weinthal reports on persecuted minorities in the Middle East. Weinthal is a fellow at The Foundation for Defense of Democracies. Follow Benjamin on Twitter @BenWeinthal
Benjamin Weinthal is a Berlin-based fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. Follow him on Twitter@BenWeinthal.

Also note the name of the above writer and guess his/her ethnicity and religion.
The pot calling the kettle black?
In Armenian-
Քաքոտը ցեխոտին է ծաղրում?
They all belong in the same cesspool.
** http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakutsk

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 10:14 AM

Here is that story about Yakutsk

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 10:19 AM

World’s Northernmost Armenian Church Opens in Yakutsk

Newly-built Saint Karapet church in Yakutsk

YAKUTSK, Russia (Arka)—An Armenian Apostolic church has opened in Russia’s icy Yakutia region, Novosti-Armenia reports, citing RIA Novosti.

The new church, named Saint Karapet, was commissioned in June of 2011 to be built in the city of Yakutsk. All of the building materials for the church have been transported from Armenia with a construction cost of 100 million rubles (about $2.7 mil.), mostly raised by philanthropists and community parishioners.
The opening ceremony was attended by deputy head of the government of the Sakha Republic (Yakutia), head of the Armenian community in Yakutia Khoren Sahakyan, head of a delegation from Armenia and governor of Aragatsotn province Sargis Sargsyan, representative of the Russian Orthodox eparchies of Yakutsk and Lensk Hieromonk Nikandr, and others.

Head of the Novo-Nakhichevan and Russian eparchies of the Armenian Apostolic Church bishop Yezras Nersisyan consecrated the church and rendered a service at the ceremony, says the report.

Busts of famous contemporary Armenians, including arctic and Antarctic explorer Artur Chilingarov, are installed outside the church building.

The report also says a center with a Sunday school, a studio, and an office for the Union of Armenians of Yakutsk will be opened in the territory of the church this December. Kids of any ethnicity will have an opportunity to study literature, culture and history of Yakutia and Russia in the school.

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